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avatar for jhco50 jhco50 6882 posts
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Originally posted by tenco1:
Originally posted by jhco50:
I didn’t answer your hypothetical scenario because there is only two answers and both were not acceptable to me.

No, there were three: You could say yes, you could say no, or you could directly say that you’re not going to answer it instead of ignoring it.

I have already told him, and you I believe, that I wouldn’t answer it.

 
avatar for tenco1 tenco1 13690 posts
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Originally posted by jhco50:
Originally posted by tenco1:
Originally posted by jhco50:
I didn’t answer your hypothetical scenario because there is only two answers and both were not acceptable to me.

No, there were three: You could say yes, you could say no, or you could directly say that you’re not going to answer it instead of ignoring it.

I have already told him, and you I believe, that I wouldn’t answer it.

You didn’t really do that before, though.

Originally posted by jhco50:

Sorry my friend, I won’t play your game.

The quote button is your friend.

 
avatar for MyDreamName MyDreamName 3673 posts
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Originally posted by jhco50:

Sorry my friend, I won’t play your game.

So you refuse to answer the question?

In that case, we’ll deny that children who would have been aborted would have ever been born into an unfortunate scenario, because you say it is impossible.

 
avatar for karmakoolkid karmakoolkid 5422 posts
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Originally posted by MyDreamName:
Originally posted by jhco50:

Sorry my friend, I won’t play your game.

So you refuse to answer the question?

In that case, we’ll deny that children who would have been aborted would have ever been born into an unfortunate scenario, because you say it is impossible.

He won’t “play your game”…
BECAUSE HE CAN’T.
It involves a capacity to cogitate on a level that addresses those “what-if” scenarios.
This case presented to him is one he isn’t equiped to contemplate.
He is “wired” in only a few ways on how to cope w/ such forms of logic that involve such “thinking-outside-of-the-box”. When one has a closed mind and manages to keep it that way via use of very narrow “linear-thinking”….their capacity to see//understand such wide-ranging potentialities is seriously curtailed.

I guess he just can’t “wrap his mind around” things like Megan
Like Amber
Who sez the incarceration has to be a complete, endless separation? I well imagine this little girl suffered “PLENTY” as it is.

 
avatar for jhco50 jhco50 6882 posts
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I believe I told you I wouldn’t answer it. But now your real purpose has come forward. You have expressed the opinion you could have just presented to begin with, without taking a page of the debate to run your imaginary scenario.

I have never said it is impossible to be born into an unfortunate situation. Of course it is possible, but you don’t just kill because the child might have a bad time growing up. Life is never easy unless you are born into a wealth family, and even then you could have a miserable life.

The problem I have with your and others arguments is the really way out scenarios you use to justify killing human life. You try to convince people that life isn’t human, it doesn’t have a personality yet, it can’t feel, it has no value, etc., just to be able to kill it. Make no mistake about it, you are killing a human life.

You know, or will when you mature, that this is wrong. It is immoral. I’m sorry, your scenarios or your pitiful excuses are not convincing anyone to swing over to your side and start killing babies.

 
avatar for ZombiestookmyTV ZombiestookmyTV 2599 posts
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Originally posted by jhco50:

I believe I told you I wouldn’t answer it. But now your real purpose has come forward. You have expressed the opinion you could have just presented to begin with, without taking a page of the debate to run your imaginary scenario.

I have never said it is impossible to be born into an unfortunate situation. Of course it is possible, but you don’t just kill because the child might have a bad time growing up. Life is never easy unless you are born into a wealth family, and even then you could have a miserable life.

The problem I have with your and others arguments is the really way out scenarios you use to justify killing human life. You try to convince people that life isn’t human, it doesn’t have a personality yet, it can’t feel, it has no value, etc., just to be able to kill it. Make no mistake about it, you are killing a human life.

You know, or will when you mature, that this is wrong. It is immoral. I’m sorry, your scenarios or your pitiful excuses are not convincing anyone to swing over to your side and start killing babies.

ROCK ON!YOU SHOULD BE A LAWYER!

 
avatar for MyDreamName MyDreamName 3673 posts
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Can I get to the basics and ask why it is, in your opinion (as morality is simply a collection of opinions and subjectivity), immoral to kill a fetus?

 
avatar for ZombiestookmyTV ZombiestookmyTV 2599 posts
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avatar for TheLoneLucas TheLoneLucas 1431 posts
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I believe I told you I wouldn’t answer it.

Why not?

Of course it is possible, but you don’t just kill because the child might have a bad time growing up.

First, *Fetus.

Second, if the fetus has a notable chance for being born into harsh cirtumstances, while the mother isn’t willing to have a child, I see little reason not to abort.

The problem I have with your and others arguments is the really way out scenarios you use to justify killing human life.

And I have a problem with how you have such a blatant disregard for the women involved, and how you usually go back to ‘’she should’ve kept her legs closed!’’.

You try to convince people that life isn’t human, it doesn’t have a personality yet, it can’t feel, it has no value, etc., just to be able to kill it. Make no mistake about it, you are killing a human life.

How the hell can it have personality, feel, etc, when it has no brain? (If it’s aborted early enough.) It’s not life if done early enough, and if it’s later on, the circumstances involved should be taken into account.

You know, or will when you mature, that this is wrong. It is immoral.

Yeah, no, I won’t. Also, this is now, not ‘’when I’m sure you’ll think like me!’’.

I’m sorry, your scenarios or your pitiful excuses are not convincing anyone to swing over to your side

Way to stay black and white. But, hey, that’s easy.

and start killing babies.

As much as you may want to use emotional appeals, *Fetuses. Live with it.


I think its bad.

Why?

 
avatar for ZombiestookmyTV ZombiestookmyTV 2599 posts
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One thing you guys suck for….That you need to split the paragraph in order to state your arguments.It is annoying to tell you the truth,Ima call it Terrorist arguments. Terro for short.

If you were talking in real life Im sure you would have to take in account of how the other guy feels and if he feels like punching you and then walking away.You don’t know if the other guy is part of a military branch…..

 
avatar for tenco1 tenco1 13690 posts
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Originally posted by ZombiestookmyTV:

Well,as you can see by the conclusive details of my paragraph in which I am about to tell which will cause me to give you my opinion which will cause you to get annoyed and ask me for my opinion………………………………………………………………

I’m sorry, I think I got stoned for a minute, what did you just say?

Well I will have to break it down for you using this complex charts of numbers.0001110010101001010001010010010001001001000100101101001010101110110100100100101010101010010010101010101010100101010101010101010101010101010201010101010101010101010101111101110010101001010001010010010001001001000100101101001010101110110100100100101010100111001010100101000101001001000100100100010010110100101010111011010010010010101010011100101010010100010100100100010010010001001011010010101011101101001001001010101001110010101001010001010010010001001001000100101101001010101110110100100100101010100111001010100101000101001001000100100100010010110100101010111011010010010010101010011100101010010100010100100100010010010001001011010010101011101101001001001010101001110010101001010001010010010001001001000100101101001010101110110100100100101010100111001010100101000101001001000100100100010010110100101010111011010010010010101010. The simple answer is..OOPS THERE WAS A 2 IN THERE! well I have to say that killing fetuses requires tools.That is my opinion.And it is immoral to kill a fetus because…Im sorry I
forgot what I was gonna say.

That was, quite possibly, the worst argument I’ve ever seen.

EDIT: I am quite honestly not surprised that his post post was removed.

 
avatar for ZombiestookmyTV ZombiestookmyTV 2599 posts
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Becuase in real life,you cant just BUTT in on what he is saying.

Well I like ice crea- WHY?

Well becau-STATE YOUR SOURCE!

Please stop-WHY?

sir can you- Nobad bad bad….

 
avatar for FlabbyWoofWoof FlabbyWoofWoof 1478 posts
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Originally posted by jhco50:

I believe I told you I wouldn’t answer it. But now your real purpose has come forward. You have expressed the opinion you could have just presented to begin with, without taking a page of the debate to run your imaginary scenario.

I have never said it is impossible to be born into an unfortunate situation. Of course it is possible, but you don’t just kill because the child might have a bad time growing up. Life is never easy unless you are born into a wealth family, and even then you could have a miserable life.

The problem I have with your and others arguments is the really way out scenarios you use to justify killing human life. You try to convince people that life isn’t human, it doesn’t have a personality yet, it can’t feel, it has no value, etc., just to be able to kill it. Make no mistake about it, you are killing a human life.

You know, or will when you mature, that this is wrong. It is immoral. I’m sorry, your scenarios or your pitiful excuses are not convincing anyone to swing over to your side and start killing babies.

You contradict yourself…you talk about embryos being human babies…but you’re not against in vitro fertilisation when you know that the unneccesary embryos are discarded. So you are for the ‘murder’ (your words) of ‘human babies’ (your words) when it suits you?

And this – “You know, or will when you mature…” – what is this? This is an argument? A fact? Who are you to condescend to others, using age? You sound incredibly childish sometimes.

 
avatar for tenco1 tenco1 13690 posts
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Originally posted by ZombiestookmyTV:

Becuase in real life,you cant just BUTT in on what he is saying.

… What are you talking about?

Well I like ice crea- WHY?

Well becau-STATE YOUR SOURCE!

Please stop-WHY?

So wait, you’re getting butthurt about how people are formatting their posts now?

sir can you- Nobad bad bad….

And here I thought you couldn’t get more inane.

 
avatar for ZombiestookmyTV ZombiestookmyTV 2599 posts
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avatar for tenco1 tenco1 13690 posts
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Originally posted by ZombiestookmyTV:

Yeah I am But hurt.You would not believe it tenco.

Yeah, that’s actually kinda one of the stupidest things to get upset over. (And it’s no-where near as severe as you’re extorting it to be.)

My butt.UGH! I gotta put some ice on that!

How mature of you.

Originally posted by ZombiestookmyTV:

You WILL NOT believe how much I am enjoying this website right now!LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
!

So you are a troll then?

Huh, good to know.

EDIT: There’s an edit button for a reason, use it.

 
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avatar for Erlandd Erlandd 8 posts
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Abortion should be legal. Rather than have a child that no one want and cursed by everyone around him / her, better they not born. After all, the child have more tendency to do drugs and crimes. The parents should not be selfish, to let them born to have pride. They have no right at all. The foster system also not that good. There are many cases that the child suffering.

 
avatar for Twilight_Ninja Twilight_Ninja 1554 posts
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Originally posted by ZombiestookmyTV:

Becuase in real life,you cant just BUTT in on what he is saying.

Well I like ice crea- WHY?

Well becau-STATE YOUR SOURCE!

Please stop-WHY?

sir can you- Nobad bad bad….

Are you crazy, or just trolling? You make no sense.

Originally posted by jhco50:

Life is never easy unless you are born into a wealth family

No, it’s not that simple either. Some people born into a middle class or even lower class (with adequate support and resources) don’t have such a hard go of it.

 
avatar for ZombiestookmyTV ZombiestookmyTV 2599 posts
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Originally posted by Twilight_Ninja:
Originally posted by ZombiestookmyTV:

Becuase in real life,you cant just BUTT in on what he is saying.

Well I like ice crea- WHY?

Well becau-STATE YOUR SOURCE!

Please stop-WHY?

sir can you- Nobad bad bad….

Are you crazy, or just trolling? You make no sense.

Originally posted by jhco50:

Life is never easy unless you are born into a wealth family

No, it’s not that simple either. Some people born into a middle class or even lower class (with adequate support and resources) don’t have such a hard go of it.

The only reasons people need to get abortions is because they have had a sex accident.I can understand if you were raped or if the condom broke.(That really sucks)

But if you are a prostitute,then blame yourself for having sex in the first place.I mean jeez.Now that you did that for a couple hundreds of dollars,now you gotta pay thousands of more dollars to either raise a baby to the age 18,or have an abortion.
In the end its the persons fault they got pregnant.Then again-unless there was a misfortune -problem

 
avatar for FlabbyWoofWoof FlabbyWoofWoof 1478 posts
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Originally posted by ZombiestookmyTV:
Originally posted by Twilight_Ninja:
Originally posted by ZombiestookmyTV:

Becuase in real life,you cant just BUTT in on what he is saying.

Well I like ice crea- WHY?

Well becau-STATE YOUR SOURCE!

Please stop-WHY?

sir can you- Nobad bad bad….

Are you crazy, or just trolling? You make no sense.

Originally posted by jhco50:

Life is never easy unless you are born into a wealth family

No, it’s not that simple either. Some people born into a middle class or even lower class (with adequate support and resources) don’t have such a hard go of it.

The only reasons people need to get abortions is because they have had a sex accident.I can understand if you were raped or if the condom broke.(That really sucks)

But if you are a prostitute,then blame yourself for having sex in the first place.I mean jeez.Now that you did that for a couple hundreds of dollars,now you gotta pay thousands of more dollars to either raise a baby to the age 18,or have an abortion.
In the end its the persons fault they got pregnant.Then again-unless there was a misfortune -problem

So basically you’re against abortion, not because of the child, but because your want to punish the women?
You’re pissed off that a certain woman may be irresponsible and therefore out of spite you want them to bear child? You seem not at all concerned with what kind of life this child will be born into.

 
avatar for ZombiestookmyTV ZombiestookmyTV 2599 posts
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That is a bad way to put it for me but yeah.

First convince the government to IN FORCE! the banning of prostitution.Let women have abortions all they want.After a good amount of years the abortion rate will go considerably down.No need to outlaw abortions,just prostitution,AND NOT EVEN THAT!Just better condoms.

Instead of banning abortions make better condoms or keep the streets cleaner.Of course there will be accidents from time to time.So eliminate the source of abortions.

What cause abortions?

Pregnant mothers that can’t fend for their child.

What causes pregnancy?

Broken condoms,rape,or unwary sex-

And I wasn’t trying to blame any women.Who convinced her to have sex?

Her arrogant lover-Who payed an hour of joy for 18 years of hell.

And I wasn’t yelling over this…Just throwing that out there.

 
avatar for Twilight_Ninja Twilight_Ninja 1554 posts
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Originally posted by ZombiestookmyTV:

The only reasons people need to get abortions is because they have had a sex accident.I can understand if you were raped or if the condom broke.(That really sucks)

But if you are a prostitute,then blame yourself for having sex in the first place.I mean jeez.Now that you did that for a couple hundreds of dollars,now you gotta pay thousands of more dollars to either raise a baby to the age 18,or have an abortion.
In the end its the persons fault they got pregnant.Then again-unless there was a misfortune -problem

Nothing in this post answered the questions I had, one of which wasn’t even a question and wasn’t directed at you.