Curiosity

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avatar for Sleepallnight Sleepallnight 551 posts
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What do you think curiosity is? How does it work? Can you teach me how to improve my curiosity?

Edited: I’ve just read a locked thread made by righteousam, apparently I’ve been breaking rules all along. Sorry, didn’t aware of it before. And thanks for pointing it out. To make it up let me just write some thoughts about curiosity.

I think time exist due to irreversibility. Therefore our intuition of time is that total interaction is always happening, irreversible, and therefore always new. Therefore its only relevant for people to be as curious as a kid. However this ability could fade, as I’ve noticed in myself, I think its not good. Therefore I want to do something about it

 
avatar for Kidudeman Kidudeman 5401 posts
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Curiosity is when you try to find out things for the sake of knowing what those things are.

No curiosity is good, too much curiosity is bad. Remember, curiosity killed the cat. Without curiosity we wouldn’t find new things out, or at least not at the speed we do, but with too much curiosity we are very invasive to others and put ourselves in danger, such as sticking our head in a lion mouth to see how it looks like from the inside.

You can’t really improve curiosity, but my best bet would be to find a website with interesting information and read articles in it.

 
avatar for Sleepallnight Sleepallnight 551 posts
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@Kidudeman,
thanks and I just did and it kinda worked :). But yeah, I want to improve my level of curiosity, my intuition, not just temporarily. Maybe there’s some kind of training that I could do?

 
avatar for Kidudeman Kidudeman 5401 posts
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Intuition isn’t the same thing as Curiosity. They are completely different words.

Curiosity is more of a born/raised thing, IMO. However, surrounding yourself with comfortable interesting information can help your thirst for more. Besides websites, the Horrible History and Murderous Maths series along with other similar series, though aimed at younger children, have interesting information in a less boring format than a school history book, and those could help with curiosity too.

 
avatar for onlineidiot1994 onlineidiot1994 8410 posts
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Curiosity is feeling the need to learn. In that regard it’s good, but don’t let it stunt your common sense.

 
avatar for tenco1 tenco1 13677 posts
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I think it killed the cat.

And curiosity in that you want to learn more about a certain subject that might have been mentioned in school is good, while a curiosity to learn what it feels like to get a third degree burn on your little finger is bad.

 
avatar for Sleepallnight Sleepallnight 551 posts
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I’ve just read a locked thread made by righteousam, apparently I’ve been breaking rules all along. Sorry, didn’t aware of it before. And thanks for pointing it out. To make it up let me just write some thoughts about curiosity.

I think time exist due to irreversibility. Therefore our intuition of time is that total interaction is always happening, irreversible, and therefore always new. Therefore its only relevant for people to be as curious as a kid. However this ability could fade, as I’ve noticed in myself, I think its not good. Therefore I want to do something about it.

 
avatar for OmegaDoom OmegaDoom 2803 posts
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But yeah, I want to improve my level of curiosity, my intuition, not just temporarily. Maybe there’s some kind of training that I could do?
I think time exist due to irreversibility. Therefore our intuition of time is that total interaction is always happening, irreversible, and therefore always new. Therefore its only relevant for people to be as curious as a kid. However this ability could fade, as I’ve noticed in myself, I think its not good. Therefore I want to do something about it.

this is a little confusing. i like your perception of time…much better than the overly popular “time is a dimension” nonsense that everyone seems to have dogmatised. but i don’t see how that, curiousity, and intuition are all linked like that.

now obviously i am convinced curiousity is killed by the education system, but lets put that on hold.

how come you think curiousity is something that can be improved? you talk of it like a skill, when really curiousity is just a drive; a motivator. like greed or lust, except not sinful.

i think you’re confusing it with something like sagacity. or like the ability to sense truth from fiction or something.

if you wanna train that i suggest source-checking any information you get. where does it come from? what does it say that? why do people believe that or propogate that?

or retrospectively try to express why you believe the things you do.

but curiousity per se, i don’t think that can be trained.

 
avatar for brandenzard brandenzard 85 posts
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If knowledge is nourishment, then curiosity is hunger. You’re basically feeding yourself out of satisfaction. If you eat too much you get health problems and if you don’t eat enough you’ll die of starvation. That last statement was metaphorical obviously, but the main point is that it should be done in moderation. Knowledge is a good thing but you can get scarred at some information you retain. Ignorance is a bliss.

 
avatar for OmegaDoom OmegaDoom 2803 posts
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If knowledge is nourishment, then curiosity is hunger

good analogy.

 
avatar for Sleepallnight Sleepallnight 551 posts
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Originally posted by OmegaDoom:
But yeah, I want to improve my level of curiosity, my intuition, not just temporarily. Maybe there’s some kind of training that I could do?

i don’t see how that, curiousity, and intuition are all linked like that.


now obviously i am convinced curiousity is killed by the education system, but lets put that on hold.


how come you think curiousity is something that can be improved? you talk of it like a skill, when really curiousity is just a drive; a motivator. like greed or lust, except not sinful.

Originally posted by OmegaDoom:
If knowledge is nourishment, then curiosity is hunger

good analogy.

Thank you brandenzard. Maybe if I improve my ability to digest knowledge I’d become more curious more often. Maybe by exercising math like Kidudeman suggested, Murderous Math’s Site

@ OmegaDoom, you have a point, maybe curiosity level in most humans are plentiful enough, the problem is in something else. My concern is being bored must signifies that there’s something wrong with you. Because if you can’t maintain your curiosity, you’re being unrealistic as reality always new and maybe there’s something that blocks you from being able to appreciate it.

This is dangerous, if continued maybe one might less motivated in looking for relevant informations. So even though opportunities were within his reach, he wouldn’t be informed about it.

Originally posted by OmegaDoom:

i like your perception of time…much better than the overly popular “time is a dimension” nonsense that everyone seems to have dogmatised

To be honest I too find that time is a dimension strange. But maybe because I haven’t understood it well. Why is it that physicians think that particles could go back in time? Is this just some kind of expression that travelling faster than light is impossible?
But lets not talk about it here more than a page long.

 
avatar for OmegaDoom OmegaDoom 2803 posts
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Why is it that physicians think that particles could go back in time? Is this just some kind of expression that travelling faster than light is impossible?

what, you think going faster than light makes stuff go back in time? pffft, you must be no smarter than most scientists…

heh! but seriously, that idea is a misunderstanding of metaphysical concepts that scientists like physicists often phale to grasp.

the closer something gets to the speed of light, the slower it’s clock will tick, which means that everyone elses clock will, by comparison, tick much faster. extrapolating from that, if you reach the speed of light, your clock stops ticking; you freeze in time. this means that, by comparison, everyone elses clock will tick infinity in an instant. iow, you potentially reach the end of time immediately, or at least you reach the point where an outside force takes you out of lightspeed immediately.
so if you excede the speed of light, rather than going back in time, you will move forward through all time to come faster than immediately.

i don’t know what that would mean for the traveler exactly, but it’s the opposite of moving backwards in time. your clock will tick backwards, but everyone elses will not, so you will not arrive at a previous date (but quite the opposite); you’ll just get younger.

freezing something in time means sending it to the future; not to the past. physicists phale metaphysics.

 
avatar for Sleepallnight Sleepallnight 551 posts
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@Omega
Hahaha, you’re smartly funny, I don’t know if I could respond equally.
I agree much when you said,

so if you excede the speed of light, rather than going back in time, you will move forward through all time to come faster than immediately.

the way I imagined it is like the skill blink in Dota, or for Christians the way Jesus was sent to the desert at Matthew 4:1. So in a split second you suddenly ended up in the USA, or in my case, in Madagascar.

Therefore it doesn’t make sense to me that you’d actually went back in time. Even if somebody actually did by scientific means went “back in time” I’d argue that such world was not ours, but another world in another dimension, because there’s always before and after, you can’t have the before as the after, then it should just be an after. Just sayin.

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Originally posted by Sleepallnight:

@Omega
Hahaha, you’re smartly funny, I don’t know if I could respond equally.

I don’t like these words… change it to… I’m going to attempt to respond to you pardon if I didn’t completely cover the points in your replies.