2 Marines killed in Southern Afghanistan page 2

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Yeah, considering how many millions we spend on a single plane or even rocket, the cost of a self-maintaining monitoring system would be pithy. I can imagine several solutions, and I’m not even that close to the field.

That said, I’m not sure I agree that monitoring would adequately address the problem, both from an organizational perspective, and for the simple fact that war is messy, unless those tapes are kept secret, which is only sidestepping the issue.

 
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You could do that but I would still show it to their direct superiors if only because it might function as a kind of training and allow them to become more combat effective (don’t aim at the head aim at the body and that sort of stuff). You should also keep it even if you don’t use it because of how useful such data is the a therapist, most of the problems stem from the fact that people know something happened but not what exactly this solves this problem.

 
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The oil in Iraq went to the Chinese.

and to one notable Canadian company which always had very close ties to prominent US politicians – and a history of playing some, alleged, very dirty pool.
http://www.talisman-energy.com/operations/other_areas/krg.html

I do believe oil was a very important motive in the war decision. Not the only reason, the system is too complex to ever see anything done for only one reason – but one of the reasons certainly. But, and I have to stress this, not oil for the US. This was a decision based not upon national energy concerns, but private investment growth. It’s about seeing investments in private businesses pay off for the people who can see these decisions made, not creating energy capital for the state.

Questions of agency are important here. It’s a hydra situation. Who profits? Who spends? When you funnel all the costs and PR through feel good tax dollars and get rich while people die, how are you still the good guy? I am not saying “America” has an agenda to kill everyone and get rich. But “america” isn’t really making these decisions, they’re paying for them.

 
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Originally posted by TheBSG:

The idea that war always includes civilian casualties is a sick and twisted coping method. Furthermore, there’s a fundamental lack of value for the individuals in these countries that is evident in all of our doings, and the public’s sentiments, as seen in the awful post just above mine. The fact that we are still detaining people we know for a fact have done nothing wrong in Guantanamo simply because we’re afraid of their now ripe anti-American sentiments is evident enough that there’s more than just failed precision happening. We shouldn’t be there, period. Backing out the wrong way will cost us more lives though, so that’s the only portion of the escape plan I tend to side with the generals on.

Sooooo…firebomb?

 
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What’s the matter?

 
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Afghanistan is totally all about the oil, man.

 
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It will be…
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Afghanistans-Developing-Oil-Industry-Causing-Envious-Glares-From-Neighbors.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/8979038/China-begins-scramble-for-Afghanistans-oil-reserves.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/exxon-considers-oil-gas-exploration-171523611.html
http://www.usak.org.tr/EN/makale.asp?id=1293
TLDR: Afghanistan has massive untapped oilfields, because it’s dangerous warzone run by lunatics. But, there’s black gold in those hills.

Plus the pipeline,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan_Oil_Pipeline

 
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i dont see why this war even started.bin laden IS DEAD!!and even if he wasnt,9/11 was terrible,but not worth starting a war

 
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US deaths reach 2150
I read that thousands of US army men were wounded

 
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Not just oil, folks.
Massive deposits of various minerals.

 
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Ung has more sources, but i’m more impressed by softest’s graph. Dayamn

 
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So how much money has been pretty well wasted in trying to actually get that in Afghanistan, out of curiosity?

 
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omg omg omg! 2 american soldiers got killed :0 how horrible!!! everyday at leas 10 of our soldiers die. so u americans have nothing to cry about.

 
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Originally posted by Camoraz:

So how much money has been pretty well wasted in trying to actually get that in Afghanistan, out of curiosity?

Cost of War
Annual Breakout
SOURCE

Just skimmed the last one, but it’s a pretty detailed breakdown of budgeting for Afghanistan 2002-2013. Estimate of total spending is north of the Cost of War figures, at $641+ billion, as opposed to CoW’s $585+ billion.

Frankly, it doesn’t matter how much the US spends in regards to how much mineral wealth can be extracted; it’s a perfect example of socializing the cost, whilst privatizing the profit.
The companies that stand to make all of the money from those mineral and oil fields aren’t spending anything. The US is footing the bill.

 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoYWdHe4tQ4

 
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two more bite the dust

 
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Originally posted by onlineidiot1994:

Afghanistan is totally all about the oil, man.

Lmao. I loved this.

 
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One more dies for nothing

 
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2 more eat dust

 
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People die, deal with it. Taking into account the classic market variables of supply and demand, human lives are pretty cheap right now.

 
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