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No Karma I didn’t write this but it sure is good.

http://www.thepurplemuse.com/id11.html

I don’t carry a CCW permit, I don’t see why I should pay a few hundred bucks to exorcize a right. That and open carry is much easier to accomplish, more comfortable, and faster into action if necessary. Although my rig is slower than others as I like the added safety of a strap. Although I don’t make the same accusations as you about another American exorcizing a right like you do (since I don’t really know you personally), I won’t comment on your exorcizing your right as an American to carry concealed. All I can do is promise you I will fight for your rights as well as mine, just like our soldiers have fought to protect the rights of the idiots on this forum to make stupid claims.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

Oh man tenco, what happens when the accusations of lies keeps coming to frustration.

What?

Remember the local organizations I told you were getting ready for a fight?

You said “many,” I asked which ones and exactly how many “many” is. I don’t think you actually answered me.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_22280965/colorado-gun-control-advocates-and-foes-mobilize-new

Well this seems largely unbiased and reporting on both sides as much has possible. Good find.

You guys might ought to pull your heads out of the nether world, grab you cheeks

When was the last time that someone said you had your head up your ass?

Hard mode: Other than Karma.

and get ready for the fight of your lives.

Wait, I thought this was only for Colorado.

You see, I am only one of millions you are going against on this subject.

Yeah, the thing about that is there are also millions who are for some kind of gun control.

Originally posted by jhco50:

No Karma I didn’t write this but it sure is good.

Wait, which post is this in response to? I just want to be clear on the relevance of the link.

http://www.thepurplemuse.com/id11.html

Speaking of the link, it also, unlike your last one, reeks of an opinion piece. If it was meant to be taken as factual, or as someone’s personal view, I don’t know, but if the person who made that seriously tried to pass it off as factual, I would think he’s deluding himself.

 
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I will fix that tenco, my fingers didn’t do the walking like they were supposed to, I meant fruition.

The link I provided was just for Colorado. I just figured you knew what was going to happen nationally. The crap is going to hit the fan, so to speak. When you figure, at last count, there are 350 million guns in circulation, there are large percentage of gun owners. Now, we have had the highest spike in gun sales in history. Ammunition will be off the shelves again as these new gun owners will be hoarding that as well. It makes you wonder why so many are arming themselves. Muhaha!

Karma had a link buried which I re-posted. The link you responded to was the one posted by Karma.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

I will fix that tenco, my fingers didn’t do the walking like they were supposed to, I meant fruition.

And you expect to be trustworthy with a trigger when you can’t even get your fingers to obey your desires enough to type the same words you were thinking of?

The link I provided was just for Colorado. I just figured you knew what was going to happen nationally. The crap is going to hit the fan, so to speak. When you figure, at last count, there are 350 million guns in circulation, there are large percentage of gun owners. Now, we have had the highest spike in gun sales in history. Ammunition will be off the shelves again as these new gun owners will be hoarding that as well. It makes you wonder why so many are arming themselves. Muhaha!

You are just itching for a second civil war, aren’t you. You sound so happy at the prospect of neighbor against neighbor, massed violence in the streets, and innocent victims in the millions.

I wonder how many American deaths it would take to satisfy your bloodlust, Jhco. All of them, perhaps?

Karma had a link buried which I re-posted. The link you responded to was the one posted by Karma.

Karma posted it, asking if you had written it, or were just quoting it verbatum without giving credit.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

Actually, I don’t want to see a civil war, but that may be the only way to straighten this mess out.

Just for the record, we are to believe that you represent a trustworthy gun owner, right?
Have fun defending democracy.

 
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jake-o, I’m letting YOU know right up front on this.
I AM FLAGGING YOUR ABOVE POST.
And, while seemingly hypocritical, I’m going to quote it below.
I’m doing this in order to point out the VERY OBVIOUS INSULTS ya’re making.
I give a fuck if YOU are able to understand what an ad homemin is.
But, YOU do pretend to know what an insult is because YOU ARE CONSTANTLY WHINING that it is YOU who are being insulted….yet, few of those posts are ever delted. This is because they insult your ideology NOT THE PERSON. That YOU are unable to understand the difference is probably something YOU SHOULD WORK ON.

I’m also quoting it below so that it will stand as a tribute to YOUR hypocrisy about this “insult” thing. I’m doing it because YOUR SHIT pollutes this forum in the manner that is against the rules. Ergo, the reason so many of YOUR POST ARE DELETED.

Originally posted by jhco50:

You just can’t help yourself, can you vika? I have met people like you before, lonely, angry, ignorant………..

Actually, I don’t want to see a civil war, but that may be the only way to straighten this mess out. People like you found out you could vote yourselves a piece if the pie on other peoples backs and now you just can’t stop. People like you just can’t be responsible for your own lives. You have to have others support you because you are unable to do that for yourself. I would be ashamed, but I’m sure you aren’t.

As I have said before, it is this kind of personal attack resulting from mere disagreement that scares the fuck out of me when it is being done by ppl who have guns. That YOU fail to grasp this concept is likely the very reason YOU also fail to have an inkling of an idea of the postions on the gun issue many on this forum have.

It appears that EpeeR agrees:

Originally posted by EPeeR:

Just for the record, we are to believe that you represent a trustworthy gun owner, right?
Have fun defending democracy.


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Originally posted by jhco50:

Yes, Karma posted that and it is exactly how I feel. maybe you should read it again. I had not seen that before, but I will keep it for further reference, it is outstanding.

Of course, THAT is how YOU “feel”
That is why I posted it….so that this forum might see where a lot of the bullshit rhetoric being shouted by the ignorant masses is coming from. That YOU are unable to see the propoganda in it totally means it is doing its intended “job”.

I did some investigating last nite on this subject and will present my “findings” later on 2nite.
By the way, what is up w/ YOUR NOT RESPONDING to my & ninja’s questions about the remark: Poking a stick at the bear?

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

Actually, I don’t want to see a civil war, but that may be the only way to straighten this mess out.

What mess, exactly?

 
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Originally posted by vikaTae:
Originally posted by jhco50:

Actually, I don’t want to see a civil war, but that may be the only way to straighten this mess out.

What mess, exactly?

The mess with people bringing up arguments and making suggestions that go against his position.
You know, deviants and misfits of society. And socialists and liberals probably too.

 
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So, when things come to a head, Jhco will grab his guns, and head to somewhere where there are a lot of ‘liberals’? Its about all I can see happening with this ‘war’ he’s so eager to embark on.

 
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A comparison of the first ammendment to the second:
The solution to someone yelling ‘fire’ in a theater is not prohibiting that speech. It’s hiring fact checkers in every theater.

 
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Originally posted by mafefesRevenge:

Also hunting is immoral unless you eat the animals.

Discuss

An interesting prospect. Yes, I think that hunting just to see the animal die or whatever, without making decent use of it is a little repugnant. I’m not a vegetarian (I think we were meant to consume some animals), but I’m not bloodthirsty either. It makes me kind of sad to see people hunting just for wall trophies.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:
Originally posted by vikaTae:

So, when things come to a head, Jhco will grab his guns, and head to somewhere where there are a lot of ‘liberals’? Its about all I can see happening with this ‘war’ he’s so eager to embark on.

Knock it off. You wonder why a jump you and Karma’s case, ther it is right there.

LOLWUT?
Are ya sooooo pissed that ya can’t type right?
Are ya sooooo CHILDISHLY pissed that ya can’t even make a token effort to address her statement//point?

Are YOU so pissed that ya have to make FOUR posts to basically say…NOTHING?

And, I really, REALLY luv the absurdity of YOUR extreeeeemism in the art of the hyperbole:

Originally posted by jhco50:

All hunting uses the meat. None of it is wasted. If the hunter doesn’t want the meat it is donated to organizations that distribute it to the needy.

And YOU wonder why we sneer at the links ya provide and near-totally dismiss YOUR points….LOL

NOW, why dontchya answer MY question about this “poking-the-bear” thing?
How does it tie in w/ this “revolution” thing ya got going?
Since ya live in Colorado, are YOU “channeling” the movie Red Dawn?

Like I said, gun groups need to drop the antiquated BULLSHIT reational and come up w/ some TODAY-sense options to put on the table.

OR, do ya have any?

 
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All hunting uses the meat. None of it is wasted. If the hunter doesn’t want the meat it is donated to organizations that distribute it to the needy.

WHAT?

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

And yet you keep forgetting the “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

And you keep forgetting you’re being too anal about that.

There is your damn slippery slope!

Do you even fully understand just why people keep saying that thet argument you keep pushing is a slippery slope fallacy?

Originally posted by jhco50:

Oh yes, that isn’t biased in the least.

Who said it wasn’t?

Although, I am curious, could you specify which parts you think are biased and why?

You people are getting pretty desperate now.

It’s not like you’re just trying to drag people down or anything.

Name calling (liar), stupid links, and flagging posts. You guys are real pieces of work.

Good God, I had no idea just how… You (well, most of what has already been said about how you act (especially when you get grumpy) and your posts) you could get. Especially in just under two lines, I’m kind of impressed, actually.

Originally posted by jhco50:

All hunting uses the meat. None of it is wasted. If the hunter doesn’t want the meat it is donated to organizations that distribute it to the needy.

So I’m guessing that when someone doesn’t do that it just isn’t called hunting.

Kinda continent.

Originally posted by jhco50:

The socialistic mess you and your ilk have created.

I’m calling it: you’re just trying to provoke people to get pissed at you now.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:
Originally posted by vikaTae:
Originally posted by jhco50:

Actually, I don’t want to see a civil war, but that may be the only way to straighten this mess out.

What mess, exactly?

The socialistic mess you and your ilk have created.

Ya see, vika…..that’s how such mentality operates (but, ya already know this….I’m just bringin’ ya in ‘cuz he thinks we’re joined at the hip…LOL).
First ya establish a few distinct differences.
Then ya diminish any similarities.
Then ya point out how really bad “the other guy’s” point of view is.
Then ya demonize that POV to the extent that he is now yer enemy.
Then, ya simply declare war on him.
Then, ya kill him.
Problem gone & solved.
No muss, no fuss…..no complicated compromising.
Done deal.

Neato…eh?

Addendum: The wife wanted me to toss this in about the Honor-of-Hunting. Killing off the basic, essential resource of the plains Indians was probably the most significant factor in their eventual near total demise.

And
Secretary of Interior Columbus Delano made the following remarks in 1873, a year after Yellowstone National Park was established: The civilization of the Indian is impossible while the buffalo remains upon the plains. I would not seriously regret the total disappearance of the buffalo from our western prairies, in its effect upon the Indians, regarding it as a means of hastening their sense of dependence upon the products of the soil and their own labors.
—Annual Report of the Department of the Interior

Imagine what other havoc they could have wrought in 1873 had they had “assault weapons”?

Sure, all of that happen a centruy & a half ago.
BUT, guns don’t kill buffalo….ppl do.
Now, tell me…..do ya really thing Americans have really “evolved” all that much since then?
After all, the Constitution was written almost 100 years even BEFORE that carnage began.
AND, I’m not talkin’bout just killing off the buffalo….the U.S.Army did a good job of using guns on the Indians themselves.

Guns in the wrong hands produces NOTHING BUT WRONG! ! !
Sensible, reasonable gun CONTROL is ALL ABOUT keeping “wrong” guns out of “wrong” hands.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

I’’m just using your post. I know you know about hunting, so this is for the others.

All hunting uses the meat. None of it is wasted. If the hunter doesn’t want the meat it is donated to organizations that distribute it to the needy.

Um…I guess meat is donated sometimes, although I don’t think it’s a rule or anything. Not that I give two shits about squirrels or prairie dogs (they kind of bug me, actually), but I don’t think the people that hunt those donate the meat.

I really don’t know that much about hunting. I know some about guns, yes, but not hunting. I’ve never hunted or participated in taxidermy.

 
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Originally posted by Jantonaitis:

All hunting uses the meat. None of it is wasted. If the hunter doesn’t want the meat it is donated to organizations that distribute it to the needy.

WHAT?

Yes, donations. Every state has a program.

http://www2.wjbf.com/news/2012/dec/18/1/hunting-to-help-the-needy-donating-deer-44203-vi-155883/

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/8351.html

 
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Originally posted by Twilight_Ninja:
Originally posted by jhco50:

I’’m just using your post. I know you know about hunting, so this is for the others.

All hunting uses the meat. None of it is wasted. If the hunter doesn’t want the meat it is donated to organizations that distribute it to the needy.

Um…I guess meat is donated sometimes, although I don’t think it’s a rule or anything. Not that I give two shits about squirrels or prairie dogs (they kind of bug me, actually), but I don’t think the people that hunt those donate the meat.

I really don’t know that much about hunting. I know some about guns, yes, but not hunting. I’ve never hunted or participated in taxidermy.

Why does everything have to be some rule, a law of some kind? Hunters do this out of the goodness of their hearts. Gun-owners are not disgusting mean people waiting to kill their neighbors, they actually are everyday people who enjoy helping the needy. Just not to extremes as some on this thread would suggest.