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I might mention that Obama is going to pass firearms laws without the approval of the congress. He plans yet another executive order. He doesn’t seem to know our constitution and that government is made up of three equal parts. Instead, he looks at himself as a King and dictates without the rest of government. I may have misspoke calling him a socialist, he seems to be a dictator, which brings us closer to a tyranny.

 
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Originally posted by tenco1:
Originally posted by jhco50:

Actually EPR, Pedophiles are trying to get the laws changed to allow sex with children. It was in one of the English newspapers.

… As in the country or the language?

The country. I heard the name of the paper it came out in but I have slept since then.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

I might mention that Obama is going to pass firearms laws without the approval of the congress.

Don’t you automatically mention it by saying that?

Also, one would think that one would see this plastered in every corner of the world if it were actually happening.

 
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He has done it before and gotten away with it.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

I don’t know, I just know they came out with their demands in England. I sent you a message.

Yeah, I’m kind of thinking that the entire thing is a little less than sincere.

Fake. I mean that it’s either fake, or the people behind it aren’t actually serious.

 
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Sorry, I changed my post because I misread your post. I don’t know about if it’s fake or not, all I can say is it was published.

I’m really going to upset a lot of people. I’m going trap shooting tomorrow. I will be shooting a shotgun and a revolver in .45lc.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

Sorry, I changed my post because I misread your post. I don’t know about if it’s fake or not, all I can say is it was published.

And now I actually want to see the article.

I’m really going to upset a lot of people. I’m going trap shooting tomorrow. I will be shooting a shotgun and a revolver in .45lc.

You’re going to put nets in your bullets?

 
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I can look for it I guess. It was the UK Guardian, but I can’t find the article. I did find a reference to it.

http://www.publiusforum.com/2013/01/06/uk-guardian-pedophiles-need-support/

 
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Tenco, check out this site.

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/mars-hiddencolors.htm

 
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What do you mean, you’re hunting actual birds tomorrow, or clay pigeons?

 
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LOL! Clay Pigeons. I can keep up with the best of them with handguns and rifles, but I have never been good with a shotgun. My friend is going to teach me how to properly use one.

 
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pedo guardian article

Might help you to actually read the article rather than the right-wing shitrag that sensationalized it. Yes, I think i’d include the Telegraph in that description – the guy who wrote that editorial could be sued for libel. The actual article did nothing to advocate pedophilia, it just pointed out that a debate DOES exist over it.

 
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Of course we shouldn’t ban guns. Why not ban knives so people wont get stabbed. Or ban ropes so people wont hang themselves. I think if someone wanted to kill they would do it with or without guns. Guns are just the easiest way to kill someone. I mean if they do ban guns people are still going to own them because some drugs are illegal yet many people still use them. Making something illegal will not solve a damn thing.

 
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Originally posted by musared:

Of course we shouldn’t ban guns. Why not ban knives so people wont get stabbed. Or ban ropes so people wont hang themselves. I think if someone wanted to kill they would do it with or without guns. Guns are just the easiest way to kill someone. I mean if they do ban guns people are still going to own them because some drugs are illegal yet many people still use them. Making something illegal will not solve a damn thing.

It is not just matter of declaring something illegal, its the matter of actively pursuing to annihlate it.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

One last post tonight.

Thank gawd, lol.

I appreciate your asking for a gift for me. Have you ever heard the saying,“give government and inch and they will take a mile”?
I’ve heard that particular saw applied to many, MANY things….including YOUR and YOUR highly presumptive reasoning on a strong majority of yer opinions on this forum.
That is how they work and you can see it with a plethora of programs and even in the taxing of the country. Every year they need more and more money. why?

To give to other countries, to give to those who don’t wish to join the working people?

Why? Because the many ppl that YOU believe (those “like” YOU, anyway) are so well informed are the ones that vote in a Congress that develops//maintains this “largess”. BUT, while ya’re right that SOME (small?) amounts of money is foolishly (no oversight to stop abusive FRAUD) “given” to far too many ppl such programs MOST DEFINIELY NOT INTENDED to benefit.

However, when are YOU actually going to respond to my (and others) point that faaaaarrrrr more CORPORATE WELFARE largess is what Congress is most vilified for doing. Of course, this is what the PACs (working for the RICH) are so very adept at convincing Congress to do….“for the good of the country”, wink..wink.

You think we are in such great economic shape now, that our world is a utopia.

Is THAT what YOU take from what I write? As a good many of us on this forum often point out, YOUR comprehension skills of our presentatins is …..er, ah, hmmm, well,,,,very lacking.

You have your beloved president

Why do YOU insist on maintaining this lunacy…on two fronts. One: I have NOT specifically expressed much of any form of such opinion. Two: In case ya mean the “plurality” you, I don’t see him receiving such lauding from a large amount of the population. After all, don’t YOU constantly like to point out how LOW his approval rating is?

and you have all of the wonderful give away programs, but you don’t have any way to sustain all of this except to borrow and give away.

Yeah, we certainly do “give away” billions-upon-billions to war efforts that make Haliburton wealthy beyond imagination. We build “bridges to nowhere”. We piss down our pantlegs money in hundreds of ways that make the rich even richer…and little of such venture actually stimulates “trickle down economics” that results in benefits for the majority of the population.

We have had four years of nothing but bad news and all we have to look forward to is another four years of the same.

And, we on this forum have covered this quite extensively on this issue for ya. YET, ya refuse to acknowledge the conditional parameters involved and go right on spouting this vauge shit about the slow economic recovery (after a near splat of a depression) and it being ALL OBAMA’S FAULT.

I just don’t “get” why YOU so demonize and (obviously?) “hate” the man so much? Do YOU not realize that it is “thinking” like that which causes many ppl to consider (among other reasons…of course) it just might be RACISM that is (subconsiously?) behind it?

I look at the news and we have stabbings, child abuse, shootings, robberies, suicides, and on and on. I have never seen our country in such turmoil before. What causes this?

And the “news” NEVER made mention that FDR was a “cripple”. NOW, all the social ills ya mention are given “ink & air time” because it “sells”. And, it sells big…take a look at the profits for the medial moguls.

Could it be a lack of hope for our future? Maybe it is the loss of everything we have ever worked for? I look at what our society is becoming and it is sickening.

I’m most glad YOU brought this up. It gives me an opportunity to toss a little education YOUR way. Also, here is a simple graph that strongly correlates w/ the opinion expressed in the “Valley News”.

This one has a very nice graph that explicitly shows where the economic woes of America lie. HOWEVER, while the effect is accurate, the blame isn’t. That author still believes “trickle-down-economics” is the way to go. I believe American manufacturers had little faith in Americans’ willingness to support American-made products….w/ good cause, since Americans actually DID NOT GIVE A SHIT about “supporting the home team” and rushed to buy cheaper foriegn made products (made so because of poor tarriff regs, etc.) to save a few fucking dollars (up front) while killing their fellow American’s jobs and therefore weakening our economy even further.

Gay rights,..

FINALLY! I’m most happy that YOU can now understand that Gays ALSO have rights that are being deprived.

… now pedophiles making the same claims,

Ya know, I haven’t even heard of this. I’m not even going to bother looking for it…because it is NOTHING going NOWHERE. We discussed this on this forum already and pretty much a consensus confirmed it to be so. Yet YOU still push this shit….SO, YOU should now show us some substantial evidence of it.

abortion,

We have also covered this here on this forum (and, regardless of what Jantonistis “thinks”—Kong SD & RL certainly appear to be in harmony…eh?). We have show YOU bias on this issue to have little merit; other than to hold an opinion that digs into the rights of other ppl to make decisions for themselves. YOU do this by distortion of many facets of the issue…..including hypocrisy. YOU want a "hands of my Constitutional rights to guns: yet, ya want to put a stop to yer fellow Americans’ Constitutional right to determine what is best for them regarding procreation. How utterly inane.

murder, etc.

OH? Is “murder” something NEW? Or, is it just being reported more because it is highly proven to be greatly newsworthy? AND, does YOUR concern about murder include “gun masacres”?

Our country is splitting at the seams and there is really no reason we should be in this situation.

Could this “spliting” be placed mostly upon the shoulders of the Republican Party itself has a very serious divide between moderates & ultra-conservatives?

David Frum
“In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the Republican Party.”

“The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.”

“When one party moves this far from the mainstream, it makes it nearly impossible for the political system to deal constructively with the country’s challenges.”

We are in this situation because we have a president and a congress who only worry about their bank accounts and the power they can wield over the people.

I guess YOU WILL NEVER be able to understand the deleterious effects hyperoble has on yer points. But, I will agree most whole-heartedly that yer point is—TO A DEGREE (depending, of course, upon the member of congress)—correct. BUT, we have already discussed, ad nauseam, how Obama DOES NOT fit this discription.

You people blame the firearms,

I guess it is true that colons aren’t very translucent. We’ve been telling YOU that our “blame” is much more SPECIFIC than YOU want to CONTINUE to blither on&on&on&on about.

but you don’t look behind the political curtain to see what is really happening. Guns have been around for 250 years, but all of a sudden they are evil. Why is it you pick an object to concentrate on when so much is wrong with the world?

OPAQUE COLON SYNDROME….AGAIN. (surprised? NO…lol)

It isn’t just our country, this is a worldwide phenomena. But it is America’s guns that you blame.

Hmmmmm….I surely do wonder just how YOU know so much about “world opinion” when ya’re so fucking xenophopic about even listening to opinions on this forum from without the U.S.?

Such shallow thinking as this is why we are in the economic and stressed situation we are.

YOU mean “shallow thinking” like YOURS?
 
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Originally posted by thepunisher52:
Originally posted by musared:

Of course we shouldn’t ban guns. Why not ban knives so people wont get stabbed. Or ban ropes so people wont hang themselves. I think if someone wanted to kill they would do it with or without guns. Guns are just the easiest way to kill someone. I mean if they do ban guns people are still going to own them because some drugs are illegal yet many people still use them. Making something illegal will not solve a damn thing.

It is not just matter of declaring something illegal, its the matter of actively pursuing to annihlate it.

And of course, we all know this, which is why if either of you had bothered to actually read the thread you are posting in, you would realise you are arguing against a stance which nobody is clamoring for. None of us wish to ban guns, just regulate and detect their use a little better.


Originally posted by karmakoolkid:

Hmmmmm….I surely do wonder just how YOU know so much about “world opinion” when ya’re so fucking zenophopic about even listening to opinions on this forum from without the U.S.?

The same way he ‘knows’ Europe is a communist shithole in which illegal firearms are hoarded in every home and a shady arms dealer can be found on practically every corner.

He makes stuff up, it sounds good in his head, so he convinces himself it must be real.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:
Originally posted by EPR89:

Oh yes.
The debate on guns is what brings the country down.
Sure.
I mean, it’s obvious, isn’t it?

The debate on guns and the socialist-communists. Jews probably too, right?


Why is it so difficult for you to get the difference between gays and pedophiles and abortion and murder?
It’s not rocket science, you know?
I find it hilarious that you make fun of people who don’t understand what an automatic gun is and then come up with that kind of stuff when it doesn’t even have anything to do with the topic at hand.

Actually EPR, Pedophiles are trying to get the laws changed to allow sex with children. It was in one of the English newspapers. they are using the same arguments the gays are.

Ummm, I like Jews.

So you really don’t get the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality.
Thanks for making that clear.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

I can look for it I guess. It was the UK Guardian, but I can’t find the article. I did find a reference to it.

http://www.publiusforum.com/2013/01/06/uk-guardian-pedophiles-need-support/

Your inability to find an article that was linked in your own reference of the article kind of makes it look like you want to cover up the actual article.

 
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Originally posted by EPR89:
Originally posted by jhco50:
Originally posted by EPR89:

Oh yes.
The debate on guns is what brings the country down.
Sure.
I mean, it’s obvious, isn’t it?

The debate on guns and the socialist-communists. Jews probably too, right?


Why is it so difficult for you to get the difference between gays and pedophiles and abortion and murder?
It’s not rocket science, you know?
I find it hilarious that you make fun of people who don’t understand what an automatic gun is and then come up with that kind of stuff when it doesn’t even have anything to do with the topic at hand.

Actually EPR, Pedophiles are trying to get the laws changed to allow sex with children. It was in one of the English newspapers. they are using the same arguments the gays are.

Ummm, I like Jews.

So you really don’t get the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality.
Thanks for making that clear.

OH, I believe he knows the “technical” difference.
However, since—as in most everything in life—there is that small occurrance of conjunction (Priests and small boys?), jake-o does one of his favoite manuvers and goes right on ahead and lumps the two of them together as being one-N-the-same….likely because he loathes them the same.
Yeah, I know….some really stupendous “logic” there…eh? LOL
 
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Originally posted by Twilight_Ninja:

What do you mean, you’re hunting actual birds tomorrow, or clay pigeons?

My friend (teacher) told me if I got 4 or 5 clays I would be doing good for a first time. He showed me how to mount the gun and I popped 17 out of 25. He was flabbergasted. He said I did that handicapped, as I had an 80 year old shotgun in 20ga and a full choke. Then we shot handguns and I showed him how it was done. All in all, a really excellent day and a lot of fun.

 
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Originally posted by EPR89:
Originally posted by jhco50:
Originally posted by EPR89:

Oh yes.
The debate on guns is what brings the country down.
Sure.
I mean, it’s obvious, isn’t it?

The debate on guns and the socialist-communists. Jews probably too, right?


Why is it so difficult for you to get the difference between gays and pedophiles and abortion and murder?
It’s not rocket science, you know?
I find it hilarious that you make fun of people who don’t understand what an automatic gun is and then come up with that kind of stuff when it doesn’t even have anything to do with the topic at hand.

Actually EPR, Pedophiles are trying to get the laws changed to allow sex with children. It was in one of the English newspapers. they are using the same arguments the gays are.

Ummm, I like Jews.

So you really don’t get the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality.
Thanks for making that clear.

Oh yes, i do. that is why I refereed to them separately. I could not find the article, but I’m not trying to cover up anything. Why would I?

 
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Here is what my state constitution states in the state bill of rights.

Section 3. Inalienable rights. All persons have certain natural, essential and inalienable rights, among which may be reckoned the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties; of acquiring, possessing and protecting property; and of seeking and obtaining their safety and happiness.

Sorry, no link.

Father of Aurora Theater Shooting Survivor Speaks Out Against Gun Control

One might think that the father of a survivor of the Aurora Theater shooting would be in favor of more gun control.

However, Guy Bennett, does not agree. His son survived the shooting as well as his son’s girlfriend, although she did suffer a gunshot wound.

Bennett, who recently relocated to GA, spoke at a GOP breakfast.

Bennett, carrying a .45 caliber handgun on his hip, speaking to a panel discussion of eight current, outgoing and future Republican state representatives and senators at the Cobb GOP?s Legislative Breakfast, said his son had a concealed handgun license in Colorado, but wasn?t allowed to take his gun into the movie theater.

“We need to abolish the defenseless victim zones,” said Bennett, who recently moved to the area from Colorado. "I’m tired of explaining to him why his girlfriend was shot and he could not defend himself a God-given right.
We tend to agree with Mr. Bennett.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:
Originally posted by EPR89:
Originally posted by jhco50:
Originally posted by EPR89:

Oh yes.
The debate on guns is what brings the country down.
Sure.
I mean, it’s obvious, isn’t it?

The debate on guns and the socialist-communists. Jews probably too, right?


Why is it so difficult for you to get the difference between gays and pedophiles and abortion and murder?
It’s not rocket science, you know?
I find it hilarious that you make fun of people who don’t understand what an automatic gun is and then come up with that kind of stuff when it doesn’t even have anything to do with the topic at hand.

Actually EPR, Pedophiles are trying to get the laws changed to allow sex with children. It was in one of the English newspapers. they are using the same arguments the gays are.

Ummm, I like Jews.

So you really don’t get the difference between pedophilia and homosexuality.
Thanks for making that clear.

Oh yes, i do. that is why I refereed to them separately. I could not find the article, but I’m not trying to cover up anything. Why would I?

The real conundrum is: Why do ya?
There’s a gawd-awful plenty of reasons why ya would,,,
most of ’em just ridiculously childish.

 
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How about this? I can see why Obama wants to ignore a Congress that won’t listen to his stupidity. Finally some common sense.

H.R.35 Safe Schools Act of 2013

Posted on January 9, 2013 by Aaron Spuler to restore safety to America?s schools.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Safe Schools Act of 2013′.
SEC. 2. FINDINGS AND PURPOSE.
(a) Findings- Congress finds?
(1) that the Supreme Court has found language nearly identical to the `Gun Free School Zones Act? to be unconstitutional;
(2) that the enactment of the `Gun Free School Zones Act’ has been met with an almost uninterrupted series of horrific and tragic shootings at Columbine, Newtown and in other American schools;
(3) that the `Gun Free School Zones Act’ has been a deadly failure. According to research by GeorgiaCarry.org, in the 22 years prior to enactment of the `Gun Free School Zones Act’ there were two school shootings in which four or more people were intentionally murdered in a short period of time, and in the 22 years after the enactment of the `Gun Free School Zones Act? there have been 10 such school shootings;
(4) that American schools had not been plagued with this succession of horrific shootings prior to the enactment of the `Gun Free School Zones Act’;
(5) that horrific massacres on school campuses in Pearl, Mississippi, and southwestern Virginia, were averted by armed staff and students;
(6) that none of the murderers in any of these horrific school shootings were deterred by the fact that, in addition to murder, gun possession was also illegal in those locations; and
(7) that the reason that the `Gun Free School Zones Act’ has made American schools unsafe is that shooters now know that they can victimize American school campuses with no fear that victims will be armed.
(b) Purpose – It is the purpose of this Act to restore safety to America?s schools by allowing staff, teachers, and administrators to defend the children and themselves.
SEC. 3. SAFE SCHOOLS.
Subsection (q) of section 922 of Title 18, United States Code, is repealed.
Source:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c113:H.R.35:

 
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Ahhhh, only a King can do this. Isn’t he precious?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/276569-obama-signs-bill-extending-lifetime-secret-service-protection-for-former-presidents

Wow, this guy is hot.

http://www.secretsofthefed.com/breaking-video-alex-jones-on-piers-morgan-tonight-video/