Your opinions of Abortion

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avatar for lakesidelion lakesidelion 15 posts
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This topic is meant for the serious discussion of abortion, and whether it should be legalized or not. Please do not post anything derogatory or hurtful.

 
avatar for zamininc zamininc 4936 posts
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I support abortion. It’s not even living yet.

This is a little off topic but i think fathers should have more say in abortion. And if the mother doesn’t want an abortion the father shouldn’t have to pay child support if he does want an abortion.

 
avatar for lakesidelion lakesidelion 15 posts
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I’ll start with my own views.
I think that abortion should be illegal, for the following reasons:
1. The embryo is life, and it should have human rights. The baby was conceived by a man and a woman, and if given the chance it will be life.
2. Abortion is killing the baby, and killing is illegal. Just because the embryo is still inside it’s mother’s womb, it shouldn’t be killed.
3. The woman obviously made a mistake if she wants an abortion, but i do not think that the baby should have to pay the price of death for the mother’s mistake.

 
avatar for Vanguarde Vanguarde 2007 posts
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Sigh. Here comes the next generation. Forums are cyclic and this is a perfect example. My views on abortion are all over the place, shall I start to link to them now, or will you search for them instead?

 
avatar for Jabor Jabor 11382 posts
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The embryo is life, and it should have human rights.

How do you figure? Pigs are life, but we don’t give them human rights.

and if given the chance it will be life.

If by “given the chance” you mean “nurtured and sustained at great cost to the mother”, maybe.

Abortion is killing the baby,

It’s not a baby. It’s a fetus.

The woman obviously made a mistake if she wants an abortion

Last I heard, being raped isn’t something you have much choice about.

 
avatar for FuzzyBacon FuzzyBacon 10791 posts
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Originally posted by Vanguarde:

Sigh. Here comes the next generation. Forums are cyclic and this is a perfect example. My views on abortion are all over the place, shall I start to link to them now, or will you search for them instead?

I second this.

 
avatar for pacaholic pacaholic 2377 posts
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Originally posted by FuzzyBacon:
Originally posted by Vanguarde:

Sigh. Here comes the next generation. Forums are cyclic and this is a perfect example. My views on abortion are all over the place, shall I start to link to them now, or will you search for them instead?

I second this.

Wow… you act like everyone wants to come on and surf through pages of old posts as if that is any fun. Sometimes people like speaking. Not everyone here has been on for as long as you have. So get off your pedestal and let the man have a conversation. Specially when the last serious discussion on abortion was over 20 days ago…

 
avatar for FuzzyBacon FuzzyBacon 10791 posts
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It would take all of 5 minutes (probably less) for him to dig up an old thread, and I’d rather he bump than create a duplicate topic, personally.

So he doesn’t need to search, though, here

Looking back at that thread, I wonder what the hell Omega said that I was responding to and the mods removed. It’s actually bugging me =\

 
avatar for pacaholic pacaholic 2377 posts
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I agree it would take less than 5 minutes… probably less than 2 minutes…

My views: I believe abortion is wrong. I would vote against it. If I was in power I would devote a small and reasonable amount of time to try to gain support against it. But I would have no problem if it were legal. If it’s what the people want, then give it to em… I’m not gonna protest or anything.

 
avatar for darkninja210 darkninja210 2410 posts
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im not a women if its not my child i can say i really dont care what happens to it……did anyone see that barak obama open stim cell research again

 
avatar for notallama notallama 564 posts
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as a former fetus, i can tell you that fetuses don’t give a crap about abortion.

 
avatar for Darkruler2005 Darkruler2005 16956 posts
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I believe abortion should be allowed only in certain circumstances.

1. In the situation when the woman was forced to have a child when she clearly didn’t want to.
2. In the situation where it is clear the woman would not be able to take care of the child or otherwise not find a good home for it (adoption).

I don’t see any other situation where it should or would happen.

My views: I believe abortion is wrong. I would vote against it. If I was in power I would devote a small and reasonable amount of time to try to gain support against it. But I would have no problem if it were legal. If it’s what the people want, then give it to em… I’m not gonna protest or anything.

Why is it wrong according to you?

im not a women if its not my child i can say i really dont care what happens to it

Wut. That sounded pretty selfish. Did you mean it like that?

as a former fetus, i can tell you that fetuses don’t give a crap about abortion.

How can you tell? Did they whisper that in your ear?

 
avatar for Carados Carados 10049 posts
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I think its telling that mainly men post in this threads.

 
avatar for solid2112 solid2112 96 posts
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Abortion IS legal in the US, just to clarify the original post.

It should remain so. It is a woman’s right to govern her body as she chooses.

Even in the case where it is considered “life” the woman still has the right to terminate the pregnancy without regard as to how she got pregnant (i mean circumstances, we all know how).

I do not believe the father has a say until after the decision to have the child is made.

To those who would argue about stem cell research being unethical, the embryos that are harvested for stem cells are from those that are generally discarded once they are no longer needed for pending implantation.

It’s alot like saying “you can’t advance science by looking through my trash,” after all, there are no funerals, birthrecords etc for these embryos, so get over the hype.

 
avatar for notallama notallama 564 posts
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also, babies make you look fat.

 
avatar for MzxDude356 MzxDude356 24 posts
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I think that the fetus should get the say in this. Unfortunately, modern medicine does not have the technology to ask a fetus whether or not it wants to get the axe. This is why I think abortion is inhumane.

 
avatar for Carados Carados 10049 posts
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I think that the fetus should get the say in this. U

Did you ask the cow you ate for lunch if it wanted to be killed?

 
avatar for Iggyshark Iggyshark 3269 posts
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I have a question for the anti-abortion crowd. You don’t like abortions, right? So don’t get one. Why do you feel the need to tell others that they can’t?

 
avatar for notallama notallama 564 posts
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we /do/ have the ability to communicate with the woman in most cases, though.

 
avatar for MzxDude356 MzxDude356 24 posts
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Originally posted by Carados:

I think that the fetus should get the say in this. U

Did you ask the cow you ate for lunch if it wanted to be killed?

I’m a vegan……

 
avatar for MzxDude356 MzxDude356 24 posts
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Originally posted by notallama:

we /do/ have the ability to communicate with the woman in most cases, though.

The mother doesn’t know what the fetus wants.

 
avatar for Jabor Jabor 11382 posts
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Do you ask the plant if it wants to be pulled up and boiled before you eat it?

I should also point out that, during the majority of the pregnancy the fetus cannot think, and therefore does not care either way.

 
avatar for Carados Carados 10049 posts
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The mother doesn’t know what the fetus wants.

Then how about you ask the person who is giving up a year of their life because you feel the misguided need to help something that will most likely be fucked over anyway?

I’m a vegan……

Then why aren’t you campaigning to make killing animals for slaughter illegal?

 
avatar for Darkruler2005 Darkruler2005 16956 posts
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I have a question for the anti-abortion crowd. You don’t like abortions, right? So don’t get one. Why do you feel the need to tell others that they can’t?

Not that I’m against abortions, but this argument doesn’t really work. I don’t like murder, but I am going to tell others that they can’t murder. I don’t particularly like abortions (it’s definitely not a happy act), but I would approve of it in the right conditions. In this case, the life of the mother is placed above the life of the unborn child, which is perfectly reasonable.

 
avatar for Commanderm98 Commanderm98 3 posts
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i’m not against it and i’m not with it, i think the mother should choose whats best, but on the other hand your killing a life

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