what if the nazis won world war 2 page 11

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I would be speaking German.

 
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Originally posted by 2032:

I would be speaking German.

Considering the large number of German immigrants or descendants in our state, we might as well be. ;]

 
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Originally posted by EpicFailure1126:
Originally posted by OMGWTFBBQZORZ:

wat is hilter and nazi???

First of all, in a non stakerish way, HOW OLD ARE YOU?!
Or you go to school in Germany and they don’t want you to learn about this stuff D:

Your post is an Epic Failure, in Germany nazism, Hitler, the Holocaust, etc. are taught too. It’s not a national shame since the ones who provoqued all this stuff are long time dead but we have to prevent it from happening again.

 
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Yeah, they teach ALL of it to kids in Germany. If you never learn the mistakes of the past, how will you avoid them?

And on a semi-related note, I seriously think someone should lock this thread. It just keeps getting bumped with somebody saying something like “I’d be dead” or “I’d be speaking German”. Seriously, there hasn’t been any good discussion since for so many months…

 
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I would be forced to join the hilter youth…

 
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you know Hitler may have been beaten in world war 2 but fascism live on in the hearts of the narrow mined scum neo Nazi’s who hate Jews and blacks and Mexicans for god know what reason (please answer y they hate jew’s and black ect ) but for some reason a growing number of people believe another war is coming…some war between the raciest people or fascist swines and the anit raciest over control of land or something but any way thats just what i have been hearing for the last year many of my friends parents think a 3 war is coming and so do my teachers and i even herd my principal talking about something like that .

 
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For the people who keep saying it would be impossibly for German to have won the Second World War, it’s sad but true that Hitler came suprisingly close to doing just that. If instead of fighting a hopeless two-front war he had decided to attack either France or the Soviet Union; but no both, it is quite possible he may have been able to launch a Third World War to conquer the countries he didn’t conquer the first go around.

 
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Originally posted by CanadianOverlord:

For the people who keep saying it would be impossibly for German to have won the Second World War, it’s sad but true that Hitler came suprisingly close to doing just that. If instead of fighting a hopeless two-front war he had decided to attack either France or the Soviet Union; but no both, it is quite possible he may have been able to launch a Third World War to conquer the countries he didn’t conquer the first go around.

But the whole reason it happened is because of Hitler: without him, the war never would have happened. He was the only one with the balls to do what he did, and the only one who could have pulled it off. And he did invade the USSR, he did try to prop up the Italians, he did appoint idiots in charge of many important things and he did try to micromanage the war. The simple fact is that you can’t separate those actions from the man, and you can’t have the war without that man.

 
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Well we would all be fked unless you like the way Germany was run under fascism

 
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Originally posted by 1132:
Originally posted by CanadianOverlord:

For the people who keep saying it would be impossibly for German to have won the Second World War, it’s sad but true that Hitler came suprisingly close to doing just that. If instead of fighting a hopeless two-front war he had decided to attack either France or the Soviet Union; but no both, it is quite possible he may have been able to launch a Third World War to conquer the countries he didn’t conquer the first go around.

But the whole reason it happened is because of Hitler: without him, the war never would have happened. He was the only one with the balls to do what he did, and the only one who could have pulled it off. And he did invade the USSR, he did try to prop up the Italians, he did appoint idiots in charge of many important things and he did try to micromanage the war. The simple fact is that you can’t separate those actions from the man, and you can’t have the war without that man.

It’s plausible that Hitler wouldn’t have gone batshit insane for some reason or another. He had the talent at the start of the war to conquer Europe, but slowly lost his mind as the war dragged on.

 
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Originally posted by CanadianOverlord:
Originally posted by 1132:
Originally posted by CanadianOverlord:

For the people who keep saying it would be impossibly for German to have won the Second World War, it’s sad but true that Hitler came suprisingly close to doing just that. If instead of fighting a hopeless two-front war he had decided to attack either France or the Soviet Union; but no both, it is quite possible he may have been able to launch a Third World War to conquer the countries he didn’t conquer the first go around.

But the whole reason it happened is because of Hitler: without him, the war never would have happened. He was the only one with the balls to do what he did, and the only one who could have pulled it off. And he did invade the USSR, he did try to prop up the Italians, he did appoint idiots in charge of many important things and he did try to micromanage the war. The simple fact is that you can’t separate those actions from the man, and you can’t have the war without that man.

It’s plausible that Hitler wouldn’t have gone batshit insane for some reason or another. He had the talent at the start of the war to conquer Europe, but slowly lost his mind as the war dragged on.

No, he was always batshit insane.
A starving artist, thinking he should control the world and better it by ridding it of Jews and the other unwanted peoples? That’s insane. He only grew more confident of his abilities as the war went on.

 
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I don’t mean batshit insane in the “kill all the jews” sense, I mean in the ability to lead Germany. And to be honest, he came awfully close to controlling the world and ridding if of Jews.

 
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Also, if he wasn’t so prejudiced and allowed his scientists to study Albert Einstein’s theories, they might have invented the atomic bomb first and nuked the shit out of America.

It’s the same reason why Voldemort doesn’t gun down Harry. Predjudice against the Muggles.

 
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Hitler would of probably started getting rid of Muslims as well so 9/11 wouldn’t of happened.

 
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Hitler would have ended up fighting the Japanese over Russia. The Russians would side with Hitler, a beaten-down America would side with Hitler, and there would be another war over Japan. Hitler, exhausted from constant war, would lose. The world war would be an “everyone lost” scenario as people chipped away at the dying Nazi Empire.

 
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Originally posted by Winnabago:

Hitler would have ended up fighting the Japanese over Russia. The Russians would side with Hitler, a beaten-down America would side with Hitler, and there would be another war over Japan. Hitler, exhausted from constant war, would lose. The world war would be an “everyone lost” scenario as people chipped away at the dying Nazi Empire.

I think you’re vastly overestimating how much people cared about Japan. Japan itself wasn’t particularly important. They had shit for resources, “meh” strategic location (compared to other smaller pacific islands) and generally only became a thing because they were an ambitious nation in themselves.

 
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Originally posted by CanadianOverlord:

For the people who keep saying it would be impossibly for German to have won the Second World War, it’s sad but true that Hitler came suprisingly close to doing just that. If instead of fighting a hopeless two-front war he had decided to attack either France or the Soviet Union; but no both, it is quite possible he may have been able to launch a Third World War to conquer the countries he didn’t conquer the first go around.

He tried expanding east in piece meal steps. But after the start of the invasion of Poland the French and British declared war on him so he had to fight them. After taking out France he tried to force the British and French in to peace(which worked in case of the French). But at the time a peace between the Axis and Britain was pretty much unachievable both sides would not be able to agree to the others terms without a major loss of face. Britain hoped to out last the Axis powers.

The Axis own production of oil was way to low to supply their industrial and troop needs. Supply sources outside were either blockaded by the British or costly and not sufficient(for example oil from Russia before the invasion of Russia). Due to faulty intelligence, a critical underestimation of the abilities of the British air-force the bad decision of trying too overwhelm England’s air-force and Industrial capacity was made.

This proved to be impossible. After it became clear, Germany started an invasion of Russia. Partially because it belonged to the original plan/dream of conquering “life space” in the east. The other Reasons were the Belief that Russia was preparing for war against Germany and hoping of adding Russia’s natural resources especially the Baku Oil fields to Germans industry(which would have allowed Germany to at least aim for a indefinite stalemate and war of attrition against Britain).

The Germans came close to victory over Russia but failed most prominently because of lack of fuel/logistics. If they had won against Russia they would have been able to hold onto what they had and maybe a bit more of Africa. But that would have been the limit. At least for some decades. Nazi expansion was ultimately limited due to Population limits and ideology. Unlike others historical successful conquerers the Nazis could only make limited use of the population of conquered Nations.

 
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Originally posted by CanadianOverlord:
Originally posted by Winnabago:

Hitler would have ended up fighting the Japanese over Russia. The Russians would side with Hitler, a beaten-down America would side with Hitler, and there would be another war over Japan. Hitler, exhausted from constant war, would lose. The world war would be an “everyone lost” scenario as people chipped away at the dying Nazi Empire.

I think you’re vastly overestimating how much people cared about Japan. Japan itself wasn’t particularly important. They had shit for resources, “meh” strategic location (compared to other smaller pacific islands) and generally only became a thing because they were an ambitious nation in themselves.

That applies to so many countries it’s not even funny. Rome, Athens, Britain, Inca, and most definitely America. Japan was an industrialized nation that help power. Of course it would be fought over, and of course it would lose to Nazi Germany.

 
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Originally posted by Winnabago:
Originally posted by CanadianOverlord:
Originally posted by Winnabago:

Hitler would have ended up fighting the Japanese over Russia. The Russians would side with Hitler, a beaten-down America would side with Hitler, and there would be another war over Japan. Hitler, exhausted from constant war, would lose. The world war would be an “everyone lost” scenario as people chipped away at the dying Nazi Empire.

I think you’re vastly overestimating how much people cared about Japan. Japan itself wasn’t particularly important. They had shit for resources, “meh” strategic location (compared to other smaller pacific islands) and generally only became a thing because they were an ambitious nation in themselves.

That applies to so many countries it’s not even funny. Rome, Athens, Britain, Inca, and most definitely America. Japan was an industrialized nation that help power. Of course it would be fought over, and of course it would lose to Nazi Germany.

The difference is that all those (or nearly all, anyways) have significant natural resources and/or strategic potential.

 
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Athens actually has famously bad soil, good only for making pots. And Japan’s high population and militaristic, unquestioning culture had to be good for something.

 
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A lot of people say that if Hitler won World War 2 they would be speaking German right now or under Nazi rule. The answer NO. Hit ler would take over the world for 2 years before most countries start doing secret meetings and form one huge army bigger then Hitler’s. Then they would have spies and insiders. Then they would overthrow him. Bottom line. One country or army cannot conquer the world forever. There is too much land and countries. And eventually will be oeverthrown.

 
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Originally posted by Ropeline:

A lot of people say that if Hitler won World War 2 they would be speaking German right now or under Nazi rule. The answer NO. Hit ler would take over the world for 2 years before most countries start doing secret meetings and form one huge army bigger then Hitler’s. Then they would have spies and insiders. Then they would overthrow him. Bottom line. One country or army cannot conquer the world forever. There is too much land and countries. And eventually will be oeverthrown.

This worked totally for the Free Polish forces, didn’t it?

 
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Originally posted by Ropeline: One country or army cannot conquer the world forever. There is too much land and countries. And eventually will be oeverthrown.

Pft, forget “eventually”. It is literally impossible for a single nation to take over the entire world. Germany could barely hold onto Europe (and not even all of Europe) and some of Africa without burning through resources and manpower. Russia could only hold on to Eastern Europe for 40 years before collapsing entirely, and it had far more manpower and far more natural resources than Germany did.

While “secret meetings” are unlikely to be the largest contributing factor, there is far too much economic and political turmoil involved with holding onto such a vast area of land.

 
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If the Nazis won World War 2…
Then the Nazis would’ve won World War 2.

 
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Originally posted by wolfinthesheep:
Originally posted by Ropeline: One country or army cannot conquer the world forever. There is too much land and countries. And eventually will be oeverthrown.

Pft, forget “eventually”. It is literally impossible for a single nation to take over the entire world. Germany could barely hold onto Europe (and not even all of Europe) and some of Africa without burning through resources and manpower. Russia could only hold on to Eastern Europe for 40 years before collapsing entirely, and it had far more manpower and far more natural resources than Germany did.

While “secret meetings” are unlikely to be the largest contributing factor, there is far too much economic and political turmoil involved with holding onto such a vast area of land.

Yes u are right. What I mean by “secret meetings” is like countries and countries discussing things like, spies, weapons smuggling, plans for the attack against hitler etc.