Should people who choose to give blood get large tax breaks? page 4

u serious?

Well when you say “X should apply to everyone” and then start to list groups that are excused from it, I want to know why some make the cut and others don’t.

Ok, now you’re suggesting a much more reasonable policy. You’re just using the wrong phrase to describe the policy -
Should be that you pay less tax if you do donate blood. Because a “not donating blood” tax would be silly, but the government thanking you for donating blood by lowering the tax you pay by a bit would make a lot more sense.

Obviously, to keep the budget balanced, some other taxes would have to be increased, making it essentially the same thing. But you have to admit it makes more sense to put it that way.

So, forcing people to take a painful procedure or taking their money?

Yeah, good idea.

It works for the DMV.

i wrote it before…. :
Not everyone can give blood, becuz of their health or their weight.
And think about religion, not every religion accept that.
So no…

And so if someone don’t want to give blood they are gonna be forced to pay?

after those last few posts, i consider my point proven. The public don’t like it when it’s phrased wrong.

Now how many of you agree that people who donate blood should pay lower taxes for their generosity?

Originally posted by AlienAdvisor:

should everyone be forced to give blood to blood bank?

God no, its your body, you should do whatever you want for it. If you dont wanna give your blood, you should not be forced to

A warrantless blood draw will almost certainly require substantial
exigent circumstances. and you have none a lack of blood in a blood bank is no reason, think this some one has bolenphobia (fear of needles) has to pay more taxes for an illness or for wanted to stay unstabed by a small needle?

and some ppl cant give blood what about them?

Originally posted by AlienAdvisor:

i admit first idea too harsh, options should be given like give blood, pay higher tax, 100 hours community work, etc

in general more people need to help society more is what overall I am saying

too many people are memememememeem

your JFK got it right, not what government can do for you, but what you can do for your country ( your community! )

If you’re using the ‘greater good’ argument… I think maintaining the current voluntary donation system would be far better for the country (whichever country it may be) overall. Mass rioting and inevitably violent protests don’t usually push economic growth or public health in the right direction*, and that’s exactly what any Government who tried to implement such a policy would receive.

And what if I decided I wasn’t going to give blood, pay the tax, or do the community work? What would happen to me then… prison?

• - yes, I know some do. Before someone comes along and points out economically-beneficial riots.

How about this. If you can’t donate blood, there will be no difference in your taxes.

But if you donate blood, your income tax will be decreased by (insert amount that gets decreased as the person gets richer)

The procedure isn’t very painful. Only for the first few seconds when the needle is inserted. Mild pain. I think that is worth a decrease in income tax by (insert amount that gets decreased as the person gets richer)

Yes, I like the idea of benefits if you choose to donate blood.

Better than trying to force people to give blood.

BUT, then the people who choose not to give blood would whine and cry that the people who do give blood are getting special treatment.

( You know people are this stupid and would do it. People in general are stupid – see the voters of Maine )

Originally posted by AlienAdvisor:

Yes, I like the idea of benefits if you choose to donate blood.

Better than trying to force people to give blood.

BUT, then the people who choose not to give blood would whine and cry that the people who do give blood are getting special treatment.

( You know people are this stupid and would do it. People in general are stupid – see the voters of Maine )

But those are people getting special treatment for being nice people, so if you whine about it, people will think you’re a jerk. So you guilt them out of it.

Annnnd another topic title.

On that one, I’d still say no, as it’s basically the same as the old topic title. Although I might say yes, as long as I also get tax breaks for driving safely, not attacking people, walking instead of driving, carrying a donor card and only boiling as much water as I need to make my cup of tea.

I’m looking at the blood service website for my country (well, for England and Wales)… it’s telling me there’s no shortage of blood, and that voluntary donation works. So if rewards are given for donating blood, where do the rewards stop?

Are you just going to keep changing the thread title because people keep disagreeing with you? Because this is the third of fourth one that you have tired now.

Originally posted by NeilSenna:

Annnnd another topic title.

On that one, I’d still say no, as it’s basically the same as the old topic title. Although I might say yes, as long as I also get tax breaks for driving safely, not attacking people, walking instead of driving, carrying a donor card and only boiling as much water as I need to make my cup of tea.

- You get penalised if you drive unsafely, so you don’t need to be rewarded for safe driving as well - you don’t need to be paid not to attack people, because you get arrested if you do. - it’s hard for the government to confirm that you walk instead of driving if you actually own a car, and so they’d have to take your word on it, which tax policy just doesn’t do - that one makes sense, since it would actually save lives. - that’s definitely going to involve taking your word on it, so there’s the same problem as with walking.

And, on the topic of organ donation earlier, i believe it should be mandatory to be an organ donor. If your organs could save a person’s life, you are commiting manslaughter by preventing them from being donated.

And, on the topic of organ donation earlier, i believe it should be mandatory to be an organ donor. If your organs could save a person’s life, you are commiting manslaughter by preventing them from being donated.

That is a horrible idea.

You get more blood, you don’t get more organs.

You get more blood, you don’t get more organs.

http://organdonor.gov/donation/typesofdonation.htm

Please learn how organ donation actually works.

If we let people sell their blood to hospitals, blood banks, and individuals, I guarantee blood shortages wouldn’t be a problem.

Originally posted by Iggyshark:

You get more blood, you don’t get more organs.

http://organdonor.gov/donation/typesofdonation.htm

Please learn how organ donation actually works.

Yes I know what he meant. When they’re dead. Point still stands.

If we let people sell their blood

We do this now.

Originally posted by blood18:

If we let people sell their blood

We do this now.

No we don’t, the blood people sell is not given to people in need, it is used in the lab for tests and the like.

No we don’t, the blood people sell is not given to people in need, it is used in the lab for tests and the like.

You are totally wrong people do in fact sell their blood to blood banks and get paid for it same thing with plasma. Either you do not get what I was saying at all or you just ignored what it meant.

Originally posted by blood18:

No we don’t, the blood people sell is not given to people in need, it is used in the lab for tests and the like.

You are totally wrong people do in fact sell their blood to blood banks and get paid for it same thing with plasma. Either you do not get what I was saying at all or you just ignored what it meant.

I am saying the scum who trade blood for cash do not help people directly, their blood they sell is not used in people, it’s for testing and research

As much as vanguarde is wrong for calling paid donors scum, he’s right about paid donations not being used directly in people in the US.

Paid donation: Blood from paid donors cannot be used in the United States for transfusion purposes.

Originally posted by Iggyshark:

As much as vanguarde is wrong for calling paid donors scum, he’s right about paid donations not being used directly in people in the US.

Paid donation: Blood from paid donors cannot be used in the United States for transfusion purposes.

And why?

Because it is not as safe and controlled as the Red Cross.

Dont be scum to trade your blood for cash. Donate to the Red Cross, because 1 in every 1000 needles at paid donation sites are laced with HIV.