Crimes and their punishments

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avatar for Kyriva Kyriva 1532 posts
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When a crime is committed, should the victim be taken into account past their version of events?

To do so would mean committing a crime is somewhat of a lottery. Pick on someone already a little unstable, and you’ll damage their mind a lot more than if they were made of sterner stuff. Then again, pick on someone who is forgiving, and you may not have to face charges at all.

Is it right that two people committing identical crimes against different people will face different punishments just because of the victim’s state of mind?

Should victims be allowed to forgive, even if it may mean the offender is more likely to commit another crime?

 
avatar for BongHits420 BongHits420 890 posts
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No. A person should be punished for what they have specifically done. Not because daddy beat the victim when they were a child.

 
avatar for Kyriva Kyriva 1532 posts
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What if, say, you stole some money from your parents? Should they be able to forgive you, or must it be reported and you given an official warning?

 
avatar for BongHits420 BongHits420 890 posts
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What if, say, you stole some money from your parents? Should they be able to forgive you, or must it be reported and you given an official warning?

Well, the only way they would report you is if they didn’t forgive you. How would the government know otherwise?

 
avatar for BongHits420 BongHits420 890 posts
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Should victims be allowed to forgive, even if it may mean the offender is more likely to commit another crime?

No, because the issue is with the government’s laws. The criminal has broken them and the only way they can be forgiven is if the government is the one doing it.

 
avatar for Kyriva Kyriva 1532 posts
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Well, the only way they would report you is if they didn’t forgive you. How would the government know otherwise?

I mean forgive in the sense of not pressing charges. Do your parents, as victims of a crime, have a duty to report your crime?

No, because the issue is with the government’s laws. The criminal has broken them and the only way they can be forgiven is if the government is the one doing it.

This is more of what I’m getting at. Should a victim (your parents) be allowed to ‘cover up’ your crime?

 
avatar for BongHits420 BongHits420 890 posts
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This is more of what I’m getting at. Should a victim (your parents) be allowed to ‘cover up’ your crime?

Yes, absolutely. This is more a private matter and needs to be addressed within the household and not with the government.

 
avatar for Jabor Jabor 11356 posts
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What about if a long-time friend takes a couple of dollars out of your wallet to get something they’re going to share with you?

Now, what about if the guy you’ve been dating for a couple of years and are madly in love with starts beating you up?

 
avatar for phooltk phooltk 1880 posts
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Criminals should be punished to dissuade and prevent them reoffending, not for revenge. As such past context is very important.

 
avatar for L33T3R L33T3R 80 posts
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Jabor, that’s not thievery, that’s screwing with your friend.

 
avatar for Kyriva Kyriva 1532 posts
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Yes, absolutely. This is more a private matter and needs to be addressed within the household and not with the government.

What does privacy have to do with it? You’ve committed a crime, and have not been punished for it. You may be more inclined to break the law in future because you got away with it once.

Criminals should be punished to dissuade and prevent them reoffending, not for revenge. As such past context is very important.

Past context of the victim?

 
avatar for DarkYoshi DarkYoshi 204 posts
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Actually, it is stealing in Jabor’s example.

 
avatar for phooltk phooltk 1880 posts
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Past context of the victim?

Other than their relation to the criminal, only insofar as it may substantiate unconfirmed details of the crime.