Rakuth
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I believe, as do many people, that all religions lead to God. I think that every religion is just a facet of the same God. You could take something meaningful from every religion if you just think about it. You can even take things out of atheism.
I think God can be described through many descriptions of many different places. But if you look to the core of it all, it is all the same one God. Christians and Jews say that God is the king of all, that he is benevolent, fair, and forgiving. In Islam, God is all powerful, all merciful, a great mystery. Buddhists believe that we should be at peace with others and nature. what i get from atheism is that we should acknowledge that not everything is God, that if you pray for it to rain and it does, its not God but coincidence. And there are many, too many to list.
So I would like to know that you think about this. I understand there are a large number of atheists and I ask for you guys to not just bluntly throw my idea away. |
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Warbossjackjack
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Yes, this is why I am an agnostic, I believe that there is a god [or several] or some other higher being that kicked things of. |
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Pink_Fuzzy_B...
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I’m not, and now that you post, it does seem right.
God is all-powerful, all-forgiving (except if you reject his offer for forgiveness), omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent. |
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Navarre
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So is it the same god that asks different people to go to war against each other, or does it just tell one religion what to do but let’s the others in on a technicality, or does it not tell anyone to go to war and everyone’s being making it up? |
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Pink_Fuzzy_B...
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God can use bad things in a good way. The Israelites have warred against other nations, and God has helped them. He gave them the Promised Land, because they trusted Him to help them win the war. |
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Rakuth
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I think that God works for the greater good, and for people to learn lessons in the long run. That is why he “told” some people to go to war with each other. Other times (usually) people claimed they are going to war for God to hide some higher motive. If they lose, they claim they were unfaithful, they win they boast how powerful their God is. |
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Warbossjackjack
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As said I think that “god” just kinda kicked off things, then left it to it’s [I’m being very careful not to say him, odd that people usually refer god as a male] creations, doing the odd thing here and there, on the afterlife, I believe in a sort of purgatory then a conscious heaven, rather than a nirvana of eternal rest. |
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Pink_Fuzzy_B...
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I’m not sure why we call God a male, I think it’s because Christ was male. |
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Warbossjackjack
315 posts
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Not all religions are based on christianity, and other religious backgrounds do it. |
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Rakuth
627 posts
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It is referred to as a he because when religion was created, men were the dominant figures of society. They were the hunters, the leaders, the priests, etc. So it would be wierd for men to worship a female. Now it stays so because still men have an ego, and “it” can be offensive in society usually meaning transsexual or meaning someone is genderless. |
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Warbossjackjack
315 posts
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Also the world is mostly blue, if god were female it would be pink! Sometimes the focus of a religion changes from god to a person, so do these lead to god? |
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Withine
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“Yes, this is why I am an agnostic, I believe that there is a god [or several] or some other higher being that kicked things of.” -Warbossjackjack
Sorry to disprove you but that is not agnosticism. Those who are Agnostic do not know if God exists or not.
I will clarify the theistic terms since many confuse them through no fault of their own. Theists are those who believe in a supernatural God who created life and is there after it/he/she created it to listen or answer prayers, punish or forgive sins, and condemn or save souls.
Agnostics are those who simply do not know and are undecided.
Atheists believe that there is no God/s.
Others include Deists and Pantheists. |
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Pink_Fuzzy_B...
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Deists = Believe that God is an impersonal being.
Pantheists = Believe that God is in everything. |
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Withine
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Deism is the belief that God exists and created the physical universe, but does not interfere with it.
Pantheism is the view that everything is of an all-encompassing immanent abstract God; or that the Universe, or nature, and God are equivalent.
-excerpted from wikipedia.org |
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Pink_Fuzzy_B...
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Withine
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And to the topic, i disagree that all religions lead to God. Based upon your interpretation of religion (A religion is a set of beliefs and practices, often centered upon specific supernatural and moral claims about reality, the cosmos, and human nature, and often codified as prayer, ritual, and religious law. -excerpted from wikipedia.org) it is the opposite which i believe to be true. God is the source of religion within the exact contexts of the meaning.
-Just to be more specific. |
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Warbossjackjack
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Curse my RE teacher not informing me of the full meaning of words.
And to the topic, i disagree that all religions lead to God. Based upon your interpretation of religion (A religion is a set of beliefs and practices, often centered upon specific supernatural and moral claims about reality, the cosmos, and human nature, and often codified as prayer, ritual, and religious law. -excerpted from wikipedia.org) it is the opposite which i believe to be true. God is the source of religion within the exact contexts of the meaning. -Just to be more specific.
Ah, although the religion may have been inspired by god, it is still the road to it, so it leads one to god. |
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Withine
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So I take it that you agree, religion and God are connected and it is pointless to say that one is connected and leads to the other. What I was implying was that the idea and belief in God was implanted in the mind before the concept of religion. |
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Warbossjackjack
315 posts
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damn my simple mindedness! I did not get what you implied however now you have said it clearly and I understand yes I agree with it. |
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futureracer
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hindu has many gods but no one god like christian |
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Rakuth
627 posts
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Holy Trinity can be viewed as three gods who are one. There you get relationship. And I don’t mean all religions are the same, just that they all end in the same spot. To me, I think it doesn’t matter if you believe in many gods or even the flying spaghetti monster, you have to look past that and see its all one and the same. |
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evilducks
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Atheism Doesn’t have gods… Even Satanism has a god. |
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unproductive
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Atheism Doesn’t have gods…
That’s because atheism isn’t a religion. |
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evilducks
202 posts
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We have our believes why can’t we other stupid religions have believes that are dumb(Not saying Atheism is dumb.)Then it’s called a religion why can’t we have our believes and be called a religion. We don’t believe in a supreme being. Because we don’t have a supreme being doesn’t disqualify it from becoming a religion… Sorry for the rant. |
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unproductive
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why can’t we have our believes and be called a religion
because atheism only has one belief: ‘Gods do not exist’. There aren’t any specific rituals or practices associated with atheism, or designated places of ‘worship’.
Saying atheism is a religion is like saying bald is a hair colour.
(I forget who said that first) |