5 Top Military Commanders in History

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1) Julius Ceasars
2) Alexander the Great
3) Napoleon
4) Gheghis Khan
5) George Washington

 
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Wrong.

1) William Sherman-He was brilliant in that, he showed no mercy, and ended the civil war more quickly than with mercy =\

2) Adolf Hitler-He revolutionized warfare and brought most of the MODERN world to it’s knees. Had he not made the mistake of staying in Russia through the winter and not supporting the troops at Normandy, he probably would have won the war.

3) Napoleon-Almost conquered all of Europe, and a genius to boot.

4) Alex the Great-Not higher because he conquered alot in a time when noone really cared about being conquered =\

5) Che Guevara-He forced the U.S. to send the CIA to kill him, and he was a pretty ingenius guy to top it all off =P

 
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I don’t think you can put Che Guevara above Ghenghis Khan. One of them conquered most of China. One of them helped put Castro in power and died after thoroughly botching a second revolution in Bolivia.

 
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My second top five are:

6) Georgi Zhukov – Won every battle in the Eastern Front against the German
7) Ho Chi Minh – The French then the American
8) Douglas McArthur – Would have reconquered China had Truman listen to him
9) Ulysses Grant – Save Lincoln’s job
10) Adolf Hilter – He would have defeated the Soviet Union regardless of winter or no winter and hence the war in Europe. His mistake was he had to fight the USSR and the USA simultaneously.

 
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Khan conquered most of china in a time of fear and uncertainty and a lack of a coherent army to fight him.

Guevara took down a small MODERN country.

 
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1: The British. 2 Adolf Hitler 3 Genghis Kahn 4 Various romans 5 guerilla [sp?] fighters

 
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This is a hard question. I’d say:
1.. Hannibal: Brought Rome closer to destruction other then, of course, the end of rome. Also He beat back armys better equipped and outnumbering his own.
2. Alexander the Great: He basically destroyed the largest empire of the time and held an area from Greece to India. Tactical Genius
3. Napoleon: His strategy charts really speak for itself. He was a true genius on the battlefield and only lostout on his final goal because of a few stupid errors in his judgment.
4.Adolf Hitler and his staff: You’d be crazy to say it was all his plans. Him and his organization were the most destructive and conquering force in modern times.
5. Danial Morgan: He really isnt one of the best but he’s one of my favorites. He helped revolutionize the art of military tradition in the American Revolution and won many battle by his new, not so proper, tactics.

 
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2) Adolf Hitler-He revolutionized warfare and brought most of the MODERN world to it’s knees. Had he not made the mistake of staying in Russia through the winter and not supporting the troops at Normandy, he probably would have won the war.

Yeah, and if he actually had let his generals make/implement plans.

 
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6) Georgi Zhukov – Won every battle in the Eastern Front against the German

He must have been good, he made it into a Sabaton song :) I actually went and looked it up because I had no idea who they were talking about.

 
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Yeah Hitler was by no means a good general. His ego and obsession with micromanagement were major factors in Germany losing the war. The main reasons they did so (Operation Barbarossa, declaring war on the USA, not crippling the British in 1941 by concentrating their forces in Africa and western Europe, and failing to sufficiently oppose the Normandy landings) were all brought about by Hitler failing to listen to his generals, and insistence on all orders and tactics being put through him first.

 
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1. Chief Joseph of the Nez Perces-He was able to beat the Americans in 3 battles with substantially less soldiers and less modern weapons. He would have gotten his tribe to freedom but he decided to rest 20 miles away from the Canadian-American border.
2. Geronimo of the Apache-He was able to to do anything to both the Mexicans and the Americans because both were unable to find him. He gave up willingly only once. When he went on the warpath again the only way he was defeated was by soem traitors of his tribe who tracked him down.
3. Shaka Zulu pf the Zulu warriors in Southern Africa-He was able to conquer all Zulu nations and unite them under one banner and he became a legendary figure in Zulu history. Before the Battle of Nwdwande against the British, years after Shaka was murdered, his legend enable the Zulus to defeat the British in the first major battle of the war against the British.
4. Von Lettow-Vorbeck, leader of the Germans in the German East African Campaign-Vorbeck had no communication to any other Germans outside of German East Africa and had only 300 white soldiers and 7,000 askaris. They were equipped with poor weapons and faced an overall force of 300,000 soldiers. A total of 300 generals were also sent there to defeat him. The only time he gave up was whenhe found out that the war was over.
5. Nathan Bedford Forrest-He was able to deal numerous defeats and raid the North without ever getting caught. And he had no military training at

 
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Unpro, even if he lost the war due to those flaws, that only makes how crushingly he defeated his enemies at the beginning of the war that much better.

 
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Spartacus?

 
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Unpro, even if he lost the war due to those flaws, that only makes how crushingly he defeated his enemies at the beginning of the war that much better.

I’d say it shows that the early victories were despite Hitler’s interference, not because of it. It was fine at the beginning, when Germany had vastly superior manpower in relation to most of the other nations and could simply crush them, but later on when the situation required flexibility, his terrible management of the war meant that they couldn’t react fast enough to the Allied counter attack.

You can’t really say ‘yeah he made some catastrophic mistakes that ultimately lost the war, but he won some early battles overwhelmingly’ as a reason for him being a good military leader.

 
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That is why people can not claim that hitler was one of the best generals because he clearly wasn’t. You have to include his staff of generals which were extremely smart in the art of modern warfare. Hitler did indeed bring down Germany at the end of the war. Lets say he decided to attack the SU from a different point other then head on. Say he first attacked the Middle east which would have been soo easy in 1942. Germany and Italian forces had the allies on retreat but Hitler started to focus on gaining Russia and so the battles in Africa started to turn tides. If he kept on driving the allies back to the Middle East he would have gained the all important oil supplies and he could then attack Russia from their weaker southern Border. Hitlers passion for wanting a quick victory lead him to defeat. He followed the same mistake Napoleon did.

I’m so surprised that I’m the only one who mentioned Hannibal! He is without a doubt in the top 5. The battle of Cannae has gone throughout history as one of biggest battles of all time won by only strategy and leadership.

 
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Trying to finding a top 5 is completely futile, Hitler certainly doesn’t qualify though.

 
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There is nothing wrong with Hitler’s strategy in attacking the USSR frontally. Case in point, cities after cities fell by the way side (Kiev, Smolensk, Khrakov, Sevastopol) and Soviet troops were either killed or capture by the hundred of thousands. The winter of 1941-42 was only a temporary setback for the Wehrmacht. By the summer of 1942, the German army, although was inflicted a heavy losses the previous winter, was still a vibrant and coherent fighting
unit. And the Soviet was still in the defensive. Tactically, the German was still winning on the Eastern Front by 1942, but strategically the Soviet was poised for a Major counterattack on all Front set for 1943. And the only reason that was able to happen because the US has entered the war on the Allies Side. Without the US, there would not have been any Normandy. Without having to defend the Western Front, the Soviet Union would have surrendered to the German either in 1943 or 1944. Or at the very least, the German would have entered Moscow the way they enter Paris. And Stalin had to set up shop somewhere in Siberia.

 
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Germany withdrew from the soviet union because of the lack of supplies. They ran out of oil to run there tanks and transport their troops. They had access to an endless supply and they failed to take the initiative to attack the middle east and gain an easy win. They did advance into the Soviet Union but mainly because Stalin never listened to his generals and the soldiers had orders that were basically run as fast as you can into enemy fire. The point is, the bulk of the Soviet Unions army were protecting it’s western border. If the Germans attacked from the south, gained control of the soviet oil fields so their enemies were the ones low on fuel, they would have gained a much easier victory. Anyway, this is off topic. XD

Phooltk, your right. No one can really say who was the smartest most tactical person but it’s still fun to discuss random military generals/leaders and their tactics.

 
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The shortage of oil was not a major issue for the German Army during the early years of WWII. They still had enough supply to do the job. This is because they control a major oilfield in Poesti, Romania and other minor ones in Hungary and Norway. Try to fight a war when you have to deal with the US 8th Airforce and to the lesser extent the RAF continuously harrassing from late 1942 onward, that what the German had to hold back a major portion of the Luftwaffle to defend the Reich. These resources could have bought into great use in the relief of Stalingrad or the battle of Kursk. As far as going the other route attacking the Middle East and swing North to attack the USSR from its underbelly. Theorically, it was do able. The problem with the German was they, along with the Italian Navy (Ha Ha, what a waste) never had complete control of the sea lane in the Mediterrean. Case in point, the German was never able to took Malta, an island just next to Italy and it took a heavy toll on the German paratrooper to capture Crete in 1941. If they did not have control of the Mediterrean, the German troop in the Middle East and North Africa is doom (just asked Rommel)

 
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Modern:

1. “Black Jack” Pershing, General of the Armies, highest ranking US Military member. (Although Washington was awarded this rank in 1970, Pershing was promoted during his military career, only person ever).
2. Douglas MacArthur, General of the Army. Masterminded the Inchon landing, plus played a pivotal role in wining the Pacific Theater of WWII.
3. Erwin Rommel, Field Marshal. The Desert Fox. Played an extreme role in the crushing German victories over Poland and France.
4. George S. Patton, General. Brilliant tank commander, with more balls than anyone. He should have been promoted for slapping that solider.
5. William Tecumseh Sherman, General. The leader of modern brutal warfare. There are no civilians in war. Nothing else needs to be said.

For those people mentioning Hitler, you need to study so more. Hitler was a brilliant politician. Able to gain control, able to rebuild a country, but he was a complete failure of a military commander. Had he let his Marshals conduct the war, he would have destroyed all of Europe in a very short time. Hitler kept making mistake after mistake after mistake because of his ego and delusions.

 
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how about Leonidas and the brave 300?

 
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Master chief.

 
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No one remembers Robert E. Lee?
Won many difficult battles with a poor equiped army and less numbers. Only with bad luck (lost of “Stonewall” Jackson) is how he was defeated. The man that killed many Americans.

 
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People need to stop putting Hitler on their lists. He was NOT a military commander. He was more in charge of big picture decisions, and decisions he made cost him WWII. And dtran31, Robert E. Lee wasn’t necissarily one of the greatest commanders ever, most of his success was due to the incompetence of northern commanders from 1861 to 1863. Anyway, my list would be,
1) Napoleon- won more battles than Alexander the Great, Ghengis Khan, and Dwight D. Eisenhower put together.
2) Alexander the Great- only Field commander to ever achieve a 100% victory record, this includes a battle where it is believed he had 300,000 men against 2,000,000.
3) Georgi Zhukov- masterminded the brilliant Soviet Counter attack that turned the tables on the German Sixth Army at Stalingrad, and essentially, the entire Wermacht in WWII.
4) Fleet Admiral Chester Nimitz- The war against The Empire of the Rising Sun was a war fought at sea, and Chester Nimitz won that war at the battle of Midway atoll.
5) Aleksei Brusilov- His “Brusilov Offensive” delivered a knockout punch to the Austro-Hungarian Empire, Forcing themm out of the first World War.

 
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I think I saw one person mention it before, but you HAVE to include Hannibal if you’re gonna bring up the old timers. I’d probably throw up either Patton or MacArthur as well.