The Bull Sh*t that is said about Things.

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It is said that if You wak up someone who is sleepwalking, It will mentlay Hurt them, When it does not. It is said that if you get morning sickness while pregnet, It is a girl when morning sickness does not determine The gender of the baby and it is also said that You can choke if you shallow gum which is COMPLETE BULL SH*T! AND ALSO THAT IT WILL STAY IN YOU STOMACH FOR 7 YEARS IS ALSO BULL SH*T Becuase it passas the digestive system! Why is it that Bull sh*t like this gets passed around? And lets also talk about Other crap which is said.

 
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Where do ya want to begin?
Pretty much ALL of what the rabid right GOP is saying these days is TOTAL CRAP.
They are lying so much that they now believe their own lies.
Then fools follow in “lock-step”.

Seriously, we already have a thread about this: “Who are you going to elect as President”

 
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My favourite bit of misinformation is that the coriolis effect makes water spin different ways in toilets/sinks/drains in each hemisphere.

Closely followed by the idea that goldfish have a 3-second memory.

 
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The problem is a mix of the way word-of-mouth tends to distort information over time, and the tendency to remember what multiple people tellus as ‘fact’. They become memes, virus-like ideas that spread from person to person, taking up residency in your mind. Like their close cousins – old wives tales – there is usually a grain of truth somewhere in them, but they have been distorted beyond all meaning, or the evidence behind that original meaning has been thoroughly discredited. The memes remain, regardless.

 
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MSG is bad for you.

 
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LOL at karma’s post.

Someone told me if you have brain freeze to touch the roof of your mouth with your tongue. So. Does. Not. Work.

I also heard that colonic irrigation is essential for total wellness, since “disease starts in the colon”. I think the jury’s still out on that one.

 
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red yellow and blue are the three primary colors, with which all colors can be made. red and blue (even proportions) makes purple, and brown is the neutral color.

having elections means democracy and vice versa, the middle ages was a time of no or little technologic progress, export is good for the economy, giving money to foreign countries (for instance as salary for factory workers) helps their economy, immigrant workers are bad for the economy…

trickle down economy is anything but manipulative bullshit, capitalism is natural, remunerative money is necessary, Stalin was a socialist…ok getting a little political now.

education exists so people can become more intelligent… well that’s by far the worst one so i have to close on it.

 
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Originally posted by karmakoolkid:

Where do ya want to begin?
Pretty much ALL of what the rabid right GOP is saying these days is TOTAL CRAP.
They are lying so much that they now believe their own lies.
Then fools follow in “lock-step”.

Seriously, we already have a thread about this: “Who are you going to elect as President”

What in the hell does this thread have to do with politics? What a douche.

 
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Originally posted by Twilight_Ninja:

I also heard that colonic irrigation is essential for total wellness, since “disease starts in the colon”. I think the jury’s still out on that one.

According to my doctor it is a falsehood.

 
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People often listen to family and friends without considering there’s another possibility. As a child, you’re more often likely to believe anything you’re being told and later on you don’t even question it. This gets spread very easily.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:
Originally posted by Twilight_Ninja:

I also heard that colonic irrigation is essential for total wellness, since “disease starts in the colon”. I think the jury’s still out on that one.

According to my doctor it is a falsehood.

Some people swear by it.

 
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Originally posted by Twilight_Ninja:
Originally posted by jhco50:
Originally posted by Twilight_Ninja:

I also heard that colonic irrigation is essential for total wellness, since “disease starts in the colon”. I think the jury’s still out on that one.

According to my doctor it is a falsehood.

Some people swear by it.

And, most of them live in L.A. and greatly luv the high colonic fad

BUT, it is a “fad” that has been around for years

“Bullshit” or not…it most certainly DOES INVOLE A LOT OF SHIT….lol.

Originally posted by jhco50:
Originally posted by Twilight_Ninja:

I also heard that colonic irrigation is essential for total wellness, since “disease starts in the colon”. I think the jury’s still out on that one.

According to my doctor it is a falsehood.

Originally posted by Darkruler2005:

People often listen to family and friends without considering there’s another possibility. As a child, you’re more often likely to believe anything you’re being told and later on you don’t even question it. This gets spread very easily.

Not only does Darkruler succinctly address jake-o’s (et.al) typical method of “information gathering”,,,,the the essence of this thread.

 
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yeah he nailed it. that’s also why the education system…well you know where i’m going.

 
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Originally posted by OmegaDoom:

yeah he {Darkruler} nailed it. that’s also why the education system…well you know where i’m going.

YUPDIDO (data in..data out)….typical prep school.
Open head lid,,,pour in lots of information (some accurate…most onlty accurate to moderate degrees) that are summarily regurgitated via tests…then pretty much “forgotten”. Most sad is that the students don’t usually learn TO THINK.

AND, if the rabid right gets it way…public “education” will be replaced by “public indoctrination”.

 
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red yellow and blue are the three primary colors, with which all colors can be made. red and blue (even proportions) makes purple, and brown is the neutral color.

Wait, what? That’s all true. So long as we’re talking pigments versus light. Although, most of that is mostly true for light.

 
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no, it’s an outdated color theory. with those three colors, you cannot make bright green or cyan. and blue and red don’t make purple, it makes a type of pink (dark magenta to be precise). for purple you need three parts blue to one part red.

and painters typically don’t or no longer use that color theory. most of them use six colors (plus black and white). and when they do use three colors, they’re more likely to use pink, yellow and cyan.

also brown is dark or unsaturated orange.

 
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I am afraid I disagree, and can’t say I’ve found any of what you’ve said iterated in my practicum or education. None of these colours really have a hard definition, one is really talking about them in relative definition to one another. “Purple” isn’t going to be any exact mixture between red and blue, but a general expression of their composite, with a degree of vaugeries well into the millions.

Really what you’re working with as a painter is never going to be a pure colour. You’re going to be working with set pigments, that are going to have a different balance depending on exactly what they are.

Brown is readily achieved by any union of the the three primary colours. Whether red-green, blue-orange, yellow-purple.

Computer based colour theories, operating under light as opposed to pigments, operate under a much more similar model to what you are describing, but it is a very different material. The most obvious being a mix of all colours in light gets you white, in pigments you’re going to end up with a black of sorts.

-But, open to reason. Could you cite some of this alternative colour theorizing, in regards to pigments, to scholarly sources?

 
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I am afraid I disagree, and can’t say I’ve found any of what you’ve said iterated in my practicum or education.

i know!

“Purple” isn’t going to be any exact mixture between red and blue, but a general expression of their composite, with a degree of vaugeries well into the millions.

well sure. but magenta doesn’t fall inside that range we can correctly designate as purple.

You’re going to be working with set pigments, that are going to have a different balance depending on exactly what they are.

well yeah, if you’re using a flawed theory.

Brown is readily achieved by any union of the the three primary colours. Whether red-green, blue-orange, yellow-purple.

that’s because you’re not apropriately using primary colors. it depends, like you sorta said, on the material. but this is either subtractive or additive (or somewhere in between). if it’s additive, like the lets in a monitor screen, the primary colors will be red, green and blue. if its subtractive, they will be pink, yellow and cyan. THAT is color theory, anything else is flawed.

paint, however, typically falls somewhere in between additive and subtractive, so without using all six aforementioned colors you will never be able to make all colors with paint.

red, yellow and azure-blue is kindof a short-cut that does encompass the most important range of colors, but stoll doesn’t allow highly saturated blue to purple, or green to cyan.

other forms of pigment, btw, outside of paint are typically purely additive or subtractive, and you would need to use the appriate set of primary colors as mentioned before.

it should also be noted that there is a custom of calling magenta “red”, and calling cyan “blue”, as a way to use the appropriate subtractive set of primary colors of pink, yellow and cyan but using the traditional terminology of red, yellow and blue, maybe so stupid people don’t feel stupid or something, idk. but this is simply using words incorrectly, and creates further confusion.

if you don’t believe me, freaking look it up yourself.

 
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I know!

Hehe, well fair enough. I was a little overly ornery. The idea of my education and experience as somewhat fraudulent is an irksome idea… but really I know the truth of that better then anyone.

well yeah, if you’re using a flawed theory.

I don’t think so. The problem with pigments is that we are always going to be working from some sort of base material. Potentially, I suppose we could synthesize artificial pigments to perfectly match the given tangent of any colour theory. Surprisingly, and disappointingly, there has not been alot of work done in that regard. Veneration for previous generations of painting has held a traditional spectrum of pigments as virtually sacred, the old standard since time immemorial putting all painters on the same level as those before them. -Which may be overly romantic, but is nevertheless the gist of things. But cutting to the point, until we make perfect analouges, we are going to be working with what we can find and the vaugeries of chance inherent in that.

I don’t know if you’re much interested in material anthropological studies, or marxist interpretation theory, but the history of pigments is an often ugly and brutal one. There are Cadium mines in Vietnam that are in effect mining “orange” with cancer rates well over fifty percent. Or cows force fed mangoes perpetually so that their piss can be harvested as a pigment base for “yellow”, all sorts of zany stuff.

if you don’t believe me, freaking look it up yourself.

Oh don’t be so sour :P Thank you for the link.

Alright, well looking deeper into the matter you have me convinced. There is no sacred standard of any three primary tones. It’s all arbritary and only useful in so far as it can be applied to create a comprehensive range. Further even perfect fractions of wavelength, as an objective standard, do not always have a corresponding effect on our perceptions – which are limited to the sensitive ranges of our cone cells.

Little embarressed to have disagreed so vehemently in the first place. Well, thanks for goading me through the process.

 
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don’t be embarrassed (what an awkward looking word), it’s not your fault. i blame school, it does that. this is certainly a great demonstration why i put those things up there.

I don’t know if you’re much interested in material anthropological studies, or marxist interpretation theory, but the history of pigments is an often ugly and brutal one. There are Cadium mines in Vietnam that are in effect mining “orange” with cancer rates well over fifty percent. Or cows force fed mangoes perpetually so that their piss can be harvested as a pigment base for “yellow”, all sorts of zany stuff.

fairly interesting. i’ll probably look that up at some point.

oh

Most sad is that the students don’t usually learn TO THINK.

ain’t that the truth!

 
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Omega, you just go to a bad school. They’re not all like that. Most good teachers welcome the challenge of students who think for themselves. The problem rather, is down to the number of bad teachers we have in schools at the moment. They cannot stand to be challenged, because they don’t know their subject matter that well.

As always it is a matter of education – educating the teachers in their subject areas, specifically.

 
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lol. seems i must remind you i’m 29, so those bad teachers were 15 to 25 years ago.

everytime i talk about school, people think “oh, he’s just in school and having a bad time”. they think you have to be a child to believe remember school is bad.

i still remember exactly what school is like, and everything i learned since then is only completely in line with that idea. created by the upper class, run by the middle class, in oppression of the lower class, by destroying all sense of individualism.

 
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Again, it all comes down to the schooling you received, Omega. I have to admit, I did think you were still at school. Your understanding and interpretation of many topics did seem to fit with that of a person in high school.

 
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i don’t see how. i’ve not once talked about spongebob or proclaimed Elmo the most funny puppet, or spammed pictures of incredibly bad bands, or tried to talk down on people based on my superior knowledge of a trivial subject i perceived as something everyone naturally cares about, repeated extremely hecknneyed memes thinking i’m being original, or any of the bullshit 100% of students that weren’t me were so invested in, as well as anyone under 23 really. (well without the memes, as this was mostly pre-cable-internet)

but then i’ve never felt my age. ever.

 
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Originally posted by vikaTae:

The problem rather, is down to the number of bad teachers we have in schools at the moment. They cannot stand to be challenged, because they don’t know their subject matter that well.

Yes, and tenure is a bitch, too; it allows the few “bad apple” teachers to act with impunity, and even spread their misanthropy to the rest of their division, as others would often shy away from a bully rather than stand up for what is right and stand up for the students.