DrunkMario2500
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I’d like to see others’ opinions on this topic. As a note of clarification, I’m specifically referring to the United States.
Personally, the lack of commitment I see from people my age, and even younger, is extremely disheartening. I’m sick of people wanting free-rides from their family and then going nowhere in life but down.
Let’s look at education, our society has gotten to the point where such acts as the No Child Left Behind (NCLB) act have been instituted. What have these done? They’ve crippled academic achievement because of the fact they encourage such things as “teaching to the test”. Plus NCLB only focuses on Math and Reading, no History, no Arts, no Science, nothing else. One may argue that you need to know how to read to do anything else, but that doesn’t excuse the lack of education so people can open their minds. The close-mindedness of society is destroying it. Most children in school see learning as “stupid” and shun it. How is our society going to stand the test of time when our new generation won’t take their iPods out of their ears and their heads out of their asses and pay attention to what’s going on?
Our society’s morals are washing down the drain. I have to say one film that really made me want to murder a puppy was “Zack and Miri Make a Porno”. I really, really fail to see the humor here. At all. EVER. But it’s not so much our senses of humor that I want to get at here. It’s the fact that our society as a whole is a gigantic orgasm of egotistical garbage. When we’re so self-centered that we can’t help our fellow man, when we’re so racist we assume anyone with a different set of beliefs needs to die. Frankly, recent times have only served to increase intolerance, whereas some would believe society has become more “diverse”. It hasn’t. It’s become more selective.
A feasible future resulting from all of this would be a “survival of the fittest” bloodbath between those who care, and to those who chose to get free-rides and destroy their lives, magnifying the problem by not doing anything. Our economy will collapse if our newer generations are incapable of taking over when the older workforce retires. All the jobs will then be outsourced to a country like India, where they can get twice the effort at less than a quarter of the price.
At that point the economy would collapse and eventually the United States could become a third world country. It seems a long way off, but if trends continue, it could happen.
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PCal
1079 posts
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Ya darn kids ruining everything. Its not like the generation before them didn’t completely set them up to fail.
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darkninja210
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have you seen the movie idiocracy i find the beginning premise to be true. many of my friends that dont have HS diplomas have multiple kids with multiple ladys. and it seems to create a cycle have kids young when they get older they have kids young. the whole time unable to truly achieve anything for themselves living on wages they earn decently splurging on items with EIC from the federal government or buying crablegs with food stamps.
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Conco
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no
the generation in power is destroying the new generation
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Yreval
293 posts
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have you seen the movie idiocracy i find the beginning premise to be true.
Flynn Effect
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Eyedol
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Originally posted by PCal:
Ya darn kids ruining everything. Its not like the generation before them didn’t completely set them up to fail.
Using that logic I suppose the generation before that set them up to set them up to fail.
Originally posted by Conco:
no
the generation in power is destroying the new generation
So much for being competent enough to break the cycle.
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PCal
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Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by PCal:
Ya darn kids ruining everything. Its not like the generation before them didn’t completely set them up to fail.
Using that logic I suppose the generation before that set them up to set them up to fail.
No I do not recall them being to be left with the “largest recession since the depression”.
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Conco
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Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by PCal:
Ya darn kids ruining everything. Its not like the generation before them didn’t completely set them up to fail.
Using that logic I suppose the generation before that set them up to set them up to fail.
Originally posted by Conco:
no
the generation in power is destroying the new generation
So much for being competent enough to break the cycle.
yeah you see, africa’s past few generations just weren’t competent enough to break the cycle of poverty
that’s why they’re still in the third world, should have worked harder!
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Eyedol
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Originally posted by PCal:
Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by PCal:
Ya darn kids ruining everything. Its not like the generation before them didn’t completely set them up to fail.
Using that logic I suppose the generation before that set them up to set them up to fail.
No I do not recall them being to be left with the “largest recession since the depression”.
No they just created the depression and somehow the recession is linked to a child’s laziness and unwillingness to learn?
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Eyedol
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Originally posted by Conco:
Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by PCal:
Ya darn kids ruining everything. Its not like the generation before them didn’t completely set them up to fail.
Using that logic I suppose the generation before that set them up to set them up to fail.
Originally posted by Conco:
no
the generation in power is destroying the new generation
So much for being competent enough to break the cycle.
yeah you see, africa’s past few generations just weren’t competent enough to break the cycle of poverty
that’s why they’re still in the third world, should have worked harder!
Africans are better or worse off than they were several generations ago?
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PCal
1079 posts
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Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by PCal:
Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by PCal:
Ya darn kids ruining everything. Its not like the generation before them didn’t completely set them up to fail.
Using that logic I suppose the generation before that set them up to set them up to fail.
No I do not recall them being to be left with the “largest recession since the depression”.
No they just created the depression and somehow the recession is linked to a child’s laziness and unwillingness to learn?
They also fixed the depression with a world war. Leaving them, an America with the strongest economy in the world.
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Eyedol
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Originally posted by PCal:
Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by PCal:
Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by PCal:
Ya darn kids ruining everything. Its not like the generation before them didn’t completely set them up to fail.
Using that logic I suppose the generation before that set them up to set them up to fail.
No I do not recall them being to be left with the “largest recession since the depression”.
No they just created the depression and somehow the recession is linked to a child’s laziness and unwillingness to learn?
They also fixed the depression with a world war. Leaving them, an America with the strongest economy in the world.
That didn’t answer my question at all.
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PCal
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No it was a rebuttal to your comment about the depression. Are any of the Bank Presidents (I will blame the banks for now, there is more to go around though) in the current generation that is so lazy.
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Eyedol
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Originally posted by PCal:
No it was a rebuttal to your comment about the depression. Are any of the Bank Presidents (I will blame the banks for now, there is more to go around though) in the current generation that is so lazy.
Point being you are given what you are given. It’s what you do with it that makes your mark on the world. If the current generation wishes to be a bunch of lazy, shiftless, mindless drones that’s no ones fault but theirs. You may fail with hard work and determination but you will always fail without it.
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Conco
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Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by Conco:
Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by PCal:
Ya darn kids ruining everything. Its not like the generation before them didn’t completely set them up to fail.
Using that logic I suppose the generation before that set them up to set them up to fail.
Originally posted by Conco:
no
the generation in power is destroying the new generation
So much for being competent enough to break the cycle.
yeah you see, africa’s past few generations just weren’t competent enough to break the cycle of poverty
that’s why they’re still in the third world, should have worked harder!
Africans are better or worse off than they were several generations ago?
some africans are better off, many aren’t
the ones that are better off have unsurprisingly have been given better social services and more chance at life in general
how the government runs the country greatly influences how the next generation will do
the ‘baby boomers’ generation has made america dependant on oil, given a huge recession and well, for a first world country to have 10% of its population not able to get adequate healthcare is awful
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PCal
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So if my generation hands of to the next an America where the is zero percent chance to succeed. It is their fault for being lazy?
I am not saying the current generation has zero percent chance to succeed just that they will be cleaning up a lot of messes they did not make.
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DrunkMario2500
137 posts
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Frankly, it doesn’t matter what the previous generation did when we look at the laziness and dependencies in the new generation. Technology has turned people into illiterate morons who cannot write a paper. How are these people going to succeed? Current research is showing around 60% of high school students will turn in work that utilizes some form of internet slang. Idiocracy wasn’t a comedy, it was a premonition.
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Eyedol
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Originally posted by Conco:
Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by Conco:
Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by PCal:
Ya darn kids ruining everything. Its not like the generation before them didn’t completely set them up to fail.
Using that logic I suppose the generation before that set them up to set them up to fail.
Originally posted by Conco:
no
the generation in power is destroying the new generation
So much for being competent enough to break the cycle.
yeah you see, africa’s past few generations just weren’t competent enough to break the cycle of poverty
that’s why they’re still in the third world, should have worked harder!
Africans are better or worse off than they were several generations ago?
some africans are better off, many aren’t
the ones that are better off have unsurprisingly have been given better social services and more chance at life in general
how the government runs the country greatly influences how the next generation will do
the ‘baby boomers’ generation has made america dependant on oil, given a huge recession and well, for a first world country to have 10% of its population not able to get adequate healthcare is awful
Better than giving everyone unusable healthcare, refusing to drill to relieve our dependence on others oil and refusing to build new refineries to increase supply of gas, and throwing money at the recession creating a reduced GDP over the next 12 years. But, back to the point, plenty of people have overcome worse situations. They didn’t sit around and blame others for their problems. They did what was necessary to escape it.
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Eyedol
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Originally posted by PCal:
So if my generation hands of to the next an America where the is zero percent chance to succeed. It is their fault for being lazy?
I am not saying the current generation has zero percent chance to succeed just that they will be cleaning up a lot of messes they did not make.
Name one generation that had it easy.
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PCal
1079 posts
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Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by PCal:
So if my generation hands of to the next an America where the is zero percent chance to succeed. It is their fault for being lazy?
I am not saying the current generation has zero percent chance to succeed just that they will be cleaning up a lot of messes they did not make.
Name one generation that had it easy.
What do you mean by easy?
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pmr0078
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I blame the capitalist media for turning this country into a bunch of ignorant selfish consumers
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Eyedol
1719 posts
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Originally posted by PCal:
Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by PCal:
So if my generation hands of to the next an America where the is zero percent chance to succeed. It is their fault for being lazy?
I am not saying the current generation has zero percent chance to succeed just that they will be cleaning up a lot of messes they did not make.
Name one generation that had it easy.
What do you mean by easy?
Well apparently this one has it so rough they can’t hope to succeed. I want to hear about a generation that was successful based on having more opportunities to succeed than the current generation.
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Conco
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Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by Conco:
Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by Conco:
Originally posted by Eyedol:
Originally posted by PCal:
Ya darn kids ruining everything. Its not like the generation before them didn’t completely set them up to fail.
Using that logic I suppose the generation before that set them up to set them up to fail.
Originally posted by Conco:
no
the generation in power is destroying the new generation
So much for being competent enough to break the cycle.
yeah you see, africa’s past few generations just weren’t competent enough to break the cycle of poverty
that’s why they’re still in the third world, should have worked harder!
Africans are better or worse off than they were several generations ago?
some africans are better off, many aren’t
the ones that are better off have unsurprisingly have been given better social services and more chance at life in general
how the government runs the country greatly influences how the next generation will do
the ‘baby boomers’ generation has made america dependant on oil, given a huge recession and well, for a first world country to have 10% of its population not able to get adequate healthcare is awful
Better than giving everyone unusable healthcare, refusing to drill to relieve our dependence on others oil and refusing to build new refineries to increase supply of gas, and throwing money at the recession creating a reduced GDP over the next 12 years. But, back to the point, plenty of people have overcome worse situations. They didn’t sit around and blame others for their problems. They did what was necessary to escape it.
Unusable healthcare? sorry look at how UHC is in countries, it compares very favourably to the US system.
Yes, wonderful of them to create a dependency, destroy our environment and not do enough to get out of the dependency in the next generation
You have to run a deficit to get out of the recession, learn about Keynesian economics, that’s what happened in the great depression, WWII forced you to spend, create infrastructure and jobs, thus giving you the ability to have a good economcy once again.
Yes there are always exceptions that do well, but society as a whole isn’t an exception.
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amishdemon
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Originally posted by pmr0078:
I blame the capitalist media for turning this country into a bunch of ignorant selfish consumers
are you a red?
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Conco
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Originally posted by amishdemon:
Originally posted by pmr0078:
I blame the capitalist media for turning this country into a bunch of ignorant selfish consumers
are you a red?
whatever he is, he has a point
consumerism is horrible
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