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[Say it ain’t so!](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/10/lawmaker-claims-house-members-socialists/)
“An Alabama congressman told local officials this week that he’s worried about the number of socialists in Congress, and he put the number already there at 17.”
Not surprisingly this is from Fox news.
Some bloggers have come away with the belief that he is referring in some way to the [CPC](http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/) (although the group does not claim to be socialist). Well this is somewhat beside the point.
My question here is…should politicians be banned from using certain words, if only to put a stop to nasty rhetoric and finger pointing? Are there other solutions to this idiocy?
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They will just use other words.
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IF socialists were in Congress, I would expect things to be a lot better.
Most people that accuse people of being a socialist dont even know what it means (like all the Republicans accusing Obama of being one, lol)
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> *Originally posted by **[pmr0078](/forums/9/topics/39759?page=1#posts-837527):***
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> IF socialists were in Congress, I would expect things to be a lot better.
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> Most people that accuse people of being a socialist dont even know what it means (like all the Republicans accusing Obama of being one, lol)
Ignorant
> *Originally posted by **[SaintAjora](/forums/9/topics/39759?page=1#posts-837503):***
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> [Say it ain’t so!](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/10/lawmaker-claims-house-members-socialists/)
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> “An Alabama congressman told local officials this week that he’s worried about the number of socialists in Congress, and he put the number already there at 17.”
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> Not surprisingly this is from Fox news.
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> Some bloggers have come away with the belief that he is referring in some way to the [CPC](http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/) (although the group does not claim to be socialist). Well this is somewhat beside the point.
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> My question here is…should politicians be banned from using certain words, if only to put a stop to nasty rhetoric and finger pointing? Are there other solutions to this idiocy?
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i guess since the cold war is over “socialist” and “liberal” have replaced “commie”
Just more McCarrthyist bullshit if you ask me
[http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n211/TyrosAvatars/homoandcommunist.jpg](http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n211/TyrosAvatars/homoandcommunist.jpg)
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> *Originally posted by **[pacaholic](/forums/9/topics/39759?page=1#posts-837530):***
> > *Originally posted by **[pmr0078](/forums/9/topics/39759?page=1#posts-837527):***
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> > IF socialists were in Congress, I would expect things to be a lot better.
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> > Most people that accuse people of being a socialist dont even know what it means (like all the Republicans accusing Obama of being one, lol)
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> Ignorant
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> > *Originally posted by **[SaintAjora](/forums/9/topics/39759?page=1#posts-837503):***
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> > [Say it ain’t so!](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/10/lawmaker-claims-house-members-socialists/)
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> > “An Alabama congressman told local officials this week that he’s worried about the number of socialists in Congress, and he put the number already there at 17.”
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> > Not surprisingly this is from Fox news.
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> > Some bloggers have come away with the belief that he is referring in some way to the [CPC](http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/) (although the group does not claim to be socialist). Well this is somewhat beside the point.
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> > My question here is…should politicians be banned from using certain words, if only to put a stop to nasty rhetoric and finger pointing? Are there other solutions to this idiocy?
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> ignorant
give your enlightened view oh great pacaholic
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> *Originally posted by **[LatexDucky](/forums/9/topics/39759?page=1#posts-837523):***
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> They will just use other words.
Such as…? If you take out terms that are consider inflammatory or overly general, they might just be forced to use words that actually properly describe the object of their interest. Suddenly “Socialist” may become “economic humanist” or “Terrorist” may become “Foreign opponent.” Maybe not, but a bit of censure in public speaking may not be a bad thing. That is my thought here at least.
> *Originally posted by **[pmr0078](/forums/9/topics/39759?page=1#posts-837527):***
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> IF socialists were in Congress, I would expect things to be a lot better.
I’m curious as to why a Socialist American politician might be better than a Democratic or Republican American politician.
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why have liberals in america let terms like socialist and even liberal become insults
i mean just why, i know it’s the whole BAH COMMUNISM ANYTHING FURTHER LEFT THAN MUSSOLINI IS BAD gut reaction of many americans
but being liberal is considered generally an ok thing across most of europe for example
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> I’m curious as to why a Socialist American politician might be better than a Democratic or Republican American politician.
well, for one: [Egalitarianism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egalitarianism) If Obama was a Socialist he wouldn’t forget about gay rights suddenly after becoming elected.
I think its good becuase its a sort of transitional state from capitalism to communism, with more power going to the workers( a mild form of collectivization).
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> well, for one: Egalitarianism If Obama was a Socialist he wouldn’t forget about gay rights suddenly after becoming elected.
So your belief is that people will change their nature drastically based on political affiliation? That is…rather interesting. Well good luck with that view of the world I suppose. Personally I think it is fair to say that Obama would be largely the same man whether he were Democrat, Republican, Socialist, or any other affiliation you can think of. That he chose Democrat possibly indicates he identifies more with the positions that party holds, but that translates to roughly the same thing in practice.
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And it wasn’t even Michelle Bachmann!
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Obama is a social democrat which is a form of socialism. So, in a sense he can be called a socialist.
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Yes for unintentional inoculation!(?)
I’m not sure pacaholic’s actual position so I am unsure.
> *Originally posted by **[Eyedol](/forums/9/topics/39759?page=1#posts-837644):***
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> Obama is a social democrat which is a form of socialism. So, in a sense he can be called a socialist.
Whether someone is an actual socialist or not is often beside the point (in today’s usage in America). It is more often used as an insult or slur that is given regardless of a persons economic position. I don’t mind if people dislike socialist policies (I’m against quite a few myself), but when politicians get brushed off as “socialist” without anyone talking about what they are actually trying to do it becomes a problem. The “17 socialists in Congress” is precisely that kind of unhelpful labelling.
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Im not sure either
but what I am sure about is that video is funny :P
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> *Originally posted by **[pacaholic](/forums/9/topics/39759?page=1#posts-837637):***
i will admit this is quite funny
> *Originally posted by **[Eyedol](/forums/9/topics/39759?page=1#posts-837644):***
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> Obama is a social democrat which is a form of socialism. So, in a sense he can be called a socialist.
he isn’t really though, but as saint said, this is beside the point
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To anyone who still thinks obama is socialist:
[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/13/AR2009031301899.html?hpid=opinionsbox1](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/13/AR2009031301899.html?hpid=opinionsbox1)
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The way I read the article it seems like Fox News is basically concurring with your point of view. They are trying to understand why the Representative would make such a statement while offering no opinion of their own as to why this would be a good or bad thing. I really don’t see any one sided journalism here if that is what you are implying. The Representative using a “label” without further explaining what he meant would be the only foul I see here. Though if one disagreed with socialistic principles then one could use the term “socialist” as derogatory in the sense that those people represent something you see as inferior.
To Conco read up on “social democrat” and not “socialism”. There is a stark contrast.
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I have found out what Obama is!
Now this might be hard to believe for some viewers, but my Intel confirms, – Obama is half black, half white.
Yes, our president is **black**!
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> *Originally posted by **[pmr0078](/forums/9/topics/39759?page=1#posts-837686):***
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> I have found out what Obama is!
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> Now this might be hard to believe for some viewers, but my Intel confirms, – Obama is half black, half white.
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> Yes, our president is **black**!
No, he’s only half black. Like he’s only half Muslim. Hell if having black in your family tree makes you black, then I’m black.
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You’re right Eyedol, that is what I meant to allude to. We all have our biases eh?
> Hell if having black in your family tree makes you black, then I’m black.
Me too!
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> *Originally posted by **[Eyedol](/forums/9/topics/39759?page=1#posts-837690):***
> > *Originally posted by **[pmr0078](/forums/9/topics/39759?page=1#posts-837686):***
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> > I have found out what Obama is!
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> > Now this might be hard to believe for some viewers, but my Intel confirms, – Obama is half black, half white.
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> > Yes, our president is **black**!
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> No, he’s only half black. Like he’s only half Muslim. Hell if having black in your family tree makes you black, then I’m black.
So you are saying having any black in your family tree does indeed make you black?
I must tell the people in the Southern states
Many of them have a black guy in their family tree- he’s been hanging there for some time now.
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> Like he’s only half Muslim.
religion doesn’t get passed on genetically
much like someone with a republican dad and democrat mother is not half republican
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> Like he’s only half Muslim
How does one half adhere to the religion of Islam?
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> *Originally posted by **[Conco](http://www.kongregate.com/forums/9/topics/39759#posts-837699):***
> > Like he’s only half Muslim.
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> religion doesn’t get passed on genetically
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> much like someone with a republican dad and democrat mother is not half republican
Nor does “being black” get passed on genetically. I know some of the blackest white guys you’ll ever meet as well as some of the whitest black guys.
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