Computer Chair Commander: Episode Two (Japan, WWII)

You are in charge of Japan before WWII, in 1939. You must:
A. Plan an invasion of India and Australia while maintaining any other fronts the Japanese would have fought in (South Pacific Islands)
B. Prepare a defense/offense against the USSR.
C. Build a superior naval fleet to beat the US.

You have all the resources and technology of Japan, 1939. Decide on production, tactics, etc., to accomplish objectives. I’ll judge your posts whenever.

In asia, world war 2 started in 1937 with the invasion of china.

B and C are basically impossible – the US economy was vastly bigger than the Japanese, and that’s all the production capacity boils down to.

The only way i can envision a winnable scenario for Japan in world war 2 is if they just don’t attack the US. Which you’ve set as goals.

The USA thought for some time that Japan would be victorious. Up until the Battle of Midway, things weren’t looking very bright.

And why would Japan have to form a defensive/offensive against the Americans? They were the ones who declared war by bombing pearl harbor, which they were under no obligation to do. If they really wanted to defeat America, they should have waited until Germany was done with Europe, and then launched a pincer attack.

Originally posted by RowanE:

In asia, world war 2 started in 1937 with the invasion of china.

B and C are basically impossible – the US economy was vastly bigger than the Japanese, and that’s all the production capacity boils down to.

The only way i can envision a winnable scenario for Japan in world war 2 is if they just don’t attack the US. Which you’ve set as goals.

Very smart. It’s unwinnable. You don’t have to follow the goals exactly… you could wait until the year 2000 to complete any objectives.

Originally posted by RowanE:

In asia, world war 2 started in 1937 with the invasion of china.

B and C are basically impossible – the US economy was vastly bigger than the Japanese, and that’s all the production capacity boils down to.

The only way i can envision a winnable scenario for Japan in world war 2 is if they just don’t attack the US. Which you’ve set as goals.

Changed it to USSR. Building a fleet, now that you just have to figure out.

Ok, I would leave the USSR alone until later in the war, start heading south taking all islands then when I get to about Vietnam I would send troops to the west and attack India, in the south I would be bombing the Australian city of Darwin then attack the tip of Australia through Cairns, then I would bomb Pearl Harbour and bomb another US naval base at the same time, severly diminishing their naval power, while building subs, aircraft carries and cruisers and troop transports.

No foreigners have ever taken over Russia. The harsh climate, huge country, and huge military, along with likely small scale rebellions. Napoleon entered Russia with 400,000 troops (much larger than the Russian army), and left with 20,000. You may be able to conquer some of Russia, but not all of it.

Originally posted by JohnRulz:

No foreigners have ever taken over Russia. The harsh climate, huge country, and huge military, along with likely small scale rebellions. Napoleon entered Russia with 400,000 troops (much larger than the Russian army), and left with 20,000. You may be able to conquer some of Russia, but not all of it.

Exactly, many have tried all have failed.

Originally posted by Mattstephen6:

Originally posted by JohnRulz:

No foreigners have ever taken over Russia. The harsh climate, huge country, and huge military, along with likely small scale rebellions. Napoleon entered Russia with 400,000 troops (much larger than the Russian army), and left with 20,000. You may be able to conquer some of Russia, but not all of it.

Exactly, many have tried all have failed.

ahem Genghis Khan

Originally posted by PCal:

Originally posted by Mattstephen6:

Originally posted by JohnRulz:

No foreigners have ever taken over Russia. The harsh climate, huge country, and huge military, along with likely small scale rebellions. Napoleon entered Russia with 400,000 troops (much larger than the Russian army), and left with 20,000. You may be able to conquer some of Russia, but not all of it.

Exactly, many have tried all have failed.

ahem Genghis Khan

Did he conquer all of Russia?

He conquered the part where people live.

Originally posted by PCal:

He conquered the part where people live.

no, he conquered the dark grey area:

while the people live closer to Europe:

maybe i should have just said mongols since his sons finished the job

He didnt conquer ALL of Russia, and thats what I said, no army has ever conquered the whole of Russia

Originally posted by Mattstephen6:

He didnt conquer ALL of Russia, and thats what I said, no army has ever conquered the whole of Russia

Why would any one want all of Russia? And since no ones living there anyway you might as well say that he controlled it.

I am just saying I would not organize a offense against Russia, it is too risky and near impossible.

Originally posted by JohnRulz:

I am just saying I would not organize a offense against Russia, it is too risky and near impossible.

Especially in todays society of treaties, no country will gain more land on Earth without a major conflict.

Being Japan in WWII is very difficult(proven by Axis & Allies).Well you could at least delay the attacks till you modernize weapons,equipment and war machinery to make the odds a little bigger for you

Originally posted by PCal:

Originally posted by Mattstephen6:

He didnt conquer ALL of Russia, and thats what I said, no army has ever conquered the whole of Russia

Why would any one want all of Russia? And since no ones living there anyway you might as well say that he controlled it.

Natural resources,maybe?

Thinking about it, i don’t see any winnable scenario for the Japanese.
Russia was too strong so they can’t go north, India was too strong so they can’t go west, the USA is too strong so they can’t go east, Australia might not be too strong but it’s big and mostly uninhabited so it’d be difficult to control, and it’s far to the south.

So, essentially, all Japan could get would be the various island chains that, in themselves, aren’t very useful anyway.

So, essentially, all Japan could get would be the various island chains that, in themselves, aren’t very useful anyway.

They are strategically useful for controlling the seas, though. Acting as a strong platform for an attack on more difficult targets.

Originally posted by Jabor:

So, essentially, all Japan could get would be the various island chains that, in themselves, aren’t very useful anyway.

They are strategically useful for controlling the seas, though. Acting as a strong platform for an attack on more difficult targets.

That is true, but they didn’t have the forces to invade and control a big country like Australia

EDIT: 900th post.

I start off by using Korea as a staging ground for an assault on China. (Japan already controlled Korea before the war). Taking the Northern part of China, I begin to move south. Slowly, I’m able to take over most of the country. After I’m able to hold the Chinese in the same way we’ve been holding Korea, I begin my assault on Tibet. Being that its people are for the most part spread out, I simply move into the rural areas to start shipping the resources there, and simply defending the mines, refineries, and other things to help fuel the war. (Remember, if I use Chinese labor with a decent pay, that can make the Chinese more loyal to us.) After 2 to 3 years of peace, used to produce Aircraft and a Navy, I begin to launch an assault into Indochina. I start with Vietnam and Laos, using volunteer soldiers from China and the Homeland. Beginning with a bombing strike on Hanoi, and fire from ships on the coast, Northern Vietnam is able to fall, due to a fairly total war strategy, and then I begin to attack Laos, sending small ships onto the main rivers, and setting up artillery bases there. At this point I start a campaign to take Burma and Thailand. After this, my men invade Cambodia and finally finish off Vietnam. Finally, I head south to Malaysia and Indonesia. Given that I have a superior navy, a simple island hopping war gives me control over the region.

Now I finally reach Australia. I begin the assault on a continent by stationing Aircraft Carriers with a small escort to the East, and battleships with transports to the west. Almost simultaneously, I bomb the balls out of the eastern coast, while landing soldiers to the west. Once the east lay in ruins, and we control the west, I simply hold what I have, and let the desert swallow anybody who tried to run.

Now India is taken in a similar way. Bombing and landing troops.

I got tired of writing, but so far that’s what I got…

Originally posted by Jabor:

So, essentially, all Japan could get would be the various island chains that, in themselves, aren’t very useful anyway.

They are strategically useful for controlling the seas, though. Acting as a strong platform for an attack on more difficult targets.

But strategic usefulness is only going to help when you have something else to aim for. If you don’t, all you’re doing is having thousands of soldiers sitting in the jungle and ships on patrol, for no reason except, perhaps, bragging rights.

Originally posted by onlineidiot1994:

I start off by using Korea as a staging ground for an assault on China. (Japan already controlled Korea before the war). Taking the Northern part of China, I begin to move south. Slowly, I’m able to take over most of the country. After I’m able to hold the Chinese in the same way we’ve been holding Korea, I begin my assault on Tibet. Being that its people are for the most part spread out, I simply move into the rural areas to start shipping the resources there, and simply defending the mines, refineries, and other things to help fuel the war. (Remember, if I use Chinese labor with a decent pay, that can make the Chinese more loyal to us.) After 2 to 3 years of peace, used to produce Aircraft and a Navy, I begin to launch an assault into Indochina. I start with Vietnam and Laos, using volunteer soldiers from China and the Homeland. Beginning with a bombing strike on Hanoi, and fire from ships on the coast, Northern Vietnam is able to fall, due to a fairly total war strategy, and then I begin to attack Laos, sending small ships onto the main rivers, and setting up artillery bases there. At this point I start a campaign to take Burma and Thailand. After this, my men invade Cambodia and finally finish off Vietnam. Finally, I head south to Malaysia and Indonesia. Given that I have a superior navy, a simple island hopping war gives me control over the region.

Now I finally reach Australia. I begin the assault on a continent by stationing Aircraft Carriers with a small escort to the East, and battleships with transports to the west. Almost simultaneously, I bomb the balls out of the eastern coast, while landing soldiers to the west. Once the east lay in ruins, and we control the west, I simply hold what I have, and let the desert swallow anybody who tried to run.

Now India is taken in a similar way. Bombing and landing troops.

I got tired of writing, but so far that’s what I got…

In real life, when Japan invaded China, the US, USSR and India responded by cutting off all trade. You now have no economy.

So how do you pay the chinese workforce (which by the way is much larger than your population) “decently” without any money?