Legal Drugs vs. Illegal Drugs

Should the same laws which prohibit the sale and consumption of heroin be applied to tobacco and alchohol? I know this is how the mobs became rich when they outlawed alchohol, but why is crack any worse than tobacco? It’s still screwing up your body and killing you!

crack VS. tobacco

Originally posted by finkidz5:

Should the same laws which prohibit the sale and consumption of heroin be applied to tobacco and alchohol? I know this is how the mobs became rich when they outlawed alchohol, but why is crack any worse than tobacco? It’s still screwing up your body and killing you!

Yes they may be killing you but legal drugs such as tobacco are less damaging or take a longer time to do long term damage. Although I don’t believe that any drugs should be allowed in law (minus medical ones) as the majority of them are damaging.

Originally posted by finkidz5:

Should the same laws which prohibit the sale and consumption of heroin be applied to tobacco and alchohol? I know this is how the mobs became rich when they outlawed alchohol, but why is crack any worse than tobacco? It’s still screwing up your body and killing you!

I’d rather tobacco and alcohol remain legal, and that drugs like cocaine were legalised.

What annoys me is that weed is illegal. From what I’ve heard, it’s no worse than alchohol or cigarrettes.

Originally posted by mariosuperlative:

What annoys me is that weed is illegal. From what I’ve heard, it’s no worse than alchohol or cigarrettes.

You can get it medically.

Although I don’t believe that any drugs should be allowed in law (minus medical ones) as the majority of them are damaging.

The only thing is though that the medical drugs can be just as damaging if not more so then some of the others. I know that I have to get a blood test every month to make sure my liver is functioning properly because one of the drugs that I take can damage it.

Originally posted by Mattstephen6:

Originally posted by mariosuperlative:

What annoys me is that weed is illegal. From what I’ve heard, it’s no worse than alchohol or cigarrettes.

You can get it medically.

Extremely rare.

What burns me is that in IL, kids are in more trouble for possessing/consuming alcohol than for possessing/consuming cannabis (pot). Having a can of beer is a Class A Misdemeanor and having a joint is a Class C Misdemeanor.

I understand that alcohol can cause more collateral damage, but it seems funny for kids to be in more trouble for having something
that they will be legally allowed to possess at 21, than for having an illegal drug they will never be allowed to possess.
To me the scales seem a bit tipped. The penalties seem off.

In direct response to the OP, the drug laws in IL are based on the how addictive the drug is.
My best guess would be that they are targeting tobacco because of the rising healthcare costs.
Smokers cost about $96 billion a year in direct health cost and about $97 billion a year in lost productivity.

Originally posted by Mattstephen6:

Originally posted by mariosuperlative:

What annoys me is that weed is illegal. From what I’ve heard, it’s no worse than alchohol or cigarrettes.

You can get it medically.

Not everywhere, and not for recreational use, like he was implying.

Originally posted by woodythedon:

Originally posted by Mattstephen6:

Originally posted by mariosuperlative:

What annoys me is that weed is illegal. From what I’ve heard, it’s no worse than alchohol or cigarrettes.

You can get it medically.

Not everywhere, and not for recreational use, like he was implying.

It’s actually incredibly easy to get in California. Essentially, medical usage there IS recreational.

At one hand I feel everyone should have the right to completely obliterate themselves, but I don’t know how morally acceptable it is that the government happily agrees to all of that.

Well, I think the government should be there to protect you from others, not from yourself (if I am to summarize it, I’ll summarize it in a catchy way).

It’s actually incredibly easy to get in California. Essentially, medical usage there IS recreational.

Yes, but California is hardly ‘everywhere’. I wasn’t just referring to US states either. Attitudes towards marijuana vary from country to country and so does its availability.

Originally posted by Darkruler2005:

At one hand I feel everyone should have the right to completely obliterate themselves, but I don’t know how morally acceptable it is that the government happily agrees to all of that.

The government happily agrees to thousands of people dying through alcoholism and lung cancer, so why should illegal drugs be treated any differently?

Originally posted by finkidz5:

Should the same laws which prohibit the sale and consumption of heroin be applied to tobacco and alchohol? I know this is how the mobs became rich when they outlawed alchohol, but why is crack any worse than tobacco? It’s still screwing up your body and killing you!

It’s too late to prohibit tobacco, alcohol can be used responsibly, and has already been banned before. The 18th amendment to the U.S. constitution prohibited the trade and distribution of alcoholic beverages. It was repealed, however.

Now, heroin can’t really be used responsibly, and it becomes an addiction much more easily.

Now, heroin can’t really be used responsibly, and it becomes an addiction much more easily.

Nicotine is more addictive than heroin.

Originally posted by woodythedon:

Now, heroin can’t really be used responsibly, and it becomes an addiction much more easily.

Nicotine is more addictive than heroin.

You’re comparing a chemical to a drug.

EDIT: Also, it’s too late to ban tobacco for that logic. Too many people have addictions to tobacco, and if it were outlawed the rehab centers would be flooded. Also, I was comparing heroin more to alcohol.

Originally posted by ohmylanta:

Originally posted by woodythedon:

Now, heroin can’t really be used responsibly, and it becomes an addiction much more easily.

Nicotine is more addictive than heroin.

You’re comparing a chemical to a drug.

EDIT: Also, it’s too late to ban tobacco for that logic. Too many people have addictions to tobacco, and if it were outlawed the rehab centers would be flooded. Also, I was comparing heroin more to alcohol.

They are both drugs and chemicals…

You’re comparing a chemical to a drug.

Nicotine is in cigarrettes.

By your logic, we should ban substances which are highly addictive, therefore cigarrettes would be top of the list. Note I’m not advocating this.

Originally posted by woodythedon:

You’re comparing a chemical to a drug.

Nicotine is in cigarrettes.

By your logic, we should ban substances which are highly addictive, therefore cigarrettes would be top of the list. Note I’m not advocating this.

Chocolate also triggers the addiction centre of the brain so by the same logic chocolate should be banned

heroin against alcohol and tobacco? you’re comparing apples to oranges. hard drugs like coke, heroin, x, etc. do way more damage than alcohol and tobacco.

No one should have the right to tell another person what they can put into their body.

If pot were legal my father might be able to get the relief he needs from the Chemotherapy so he could eat something. As it is the drugs the Doc’s. are giving him are not working and my father keeps losing weight as the cancer eats away at him.

A good first step is for everyone here to register to vote and then tell your lawmakers that we need medicinal marijuana. If you don’t register to vote your politicians don’t care what you have to say.

Originally posted by finkidz5:

Should the same laws which prohibit the sale and consumption of heroin be applied to tobacco and alchohol? I know this is how the mobs became rich when they outlawed alchohol, but why is crack any worse than tobacco? It’s still screwing up your body and killing you!

it isnt. just crack doesnt get into movies. “oh, jeanna looked so beautiful with that joint in her hand” just doesnt sound as sexy.

No one should have the right to tell another person what they can put into their body.

They should when it ruins someone’s live, degrades the society and make the friends and family have a significant loss in their lives (which is the drug consumer).

no, if you want to mess up your life, knock yourself out (literally). as long as they dont hurt others, why dooes it matter what they do to themselves? why are you being controlling?