Vanduke

This is a debate thread…

Do you think a person with 3* Cobalt gear could survive going through vanaduke if he had two 5* teammates?

It would depend on the two 5* teamies. Someone really fine in the place could solo their way with the 3* person dead the whole time; but two pro’s could lug a third lame duck through, especially if they don’t die too often.

This can’t really be debated, I think. It’s possible to go through FSC, Vana included, with Proto Gear even.

I’ve done it with Proto Gear before, but using 5* weapons. If you’re talking 3* gear, then definitely for sure. If you’re talking 3* gear and weapons, then Antigua, counting as a 3* weapon could be used.

It’s possible to do it in that case, as it’s easy to avoid getting hit while using the Antigua line against Vana.

Solo’ing Vana using Antigua:
1rst Phase: Kite Vana
2nd Phase: Water him down, and kite him
3rd Phase: Water down fires only if they are not on the north end of the field. There’s a limit to the fire, so eventually, only the fires on the north side will be there, and at that point, the rest of the field should be fireless. Kite Vana under those circumstances.
4rth Phase: Try not to put out the north fires while you do this phase; water him down, and kite him.
5th Phase: Same as 3rd phase, except watch out for the chargers. Keep fires on the north end, and continue kiting him.

If you have a team, then simply stay alive, and they can take out Vana. No biggie.

Uthief :D. We did proto gear together eh? :P With skyyy and stuff xD

Yes. I’ve done vana in proto armor and w/o a shield or trinkets until the last fight of the FSC (died due to trapping, which happened several times during my attempts…) so it’s very possible for someone in 3* and with a shield to survive with teammies. Then duke is easy to avoid damage in, just run in circles. Heck, zombies move so slow you could just hide while your teammies demolished everything.

Well Thanks. I am 3*, and i just wondered if it was possible. :) Btw, what does Kite mean?

Generally means you move around while avoiding getting hit, but hitting back at an enemy.

In the case of Vana, after all the fires are on the north end (Or when fires stop spawning), you move in a circular direction around Vana while firing at him.

Originally posted by Nukes32:

Uthief :D. We did proto gear together eh? :P With skyyy and stuff xD

I remember :P

You guys died :P

i got an avenger, GW pulsar and miracle set with wise owlite shield is that good enough for vana?

Doing Vanaduke in 3star armor is completely possible. On my character Bladderrust, I went at him using Jelly Mail, Sealed sword,, and a 4star blight needle (With a good team of course) until I obtained enough tokens to get FoV and Ancient Helmet. I’m still using 3star armor and a swift strike buckler but with enough practice, you can even solo him while in weak armor.

Just don’t’ get lit on fire.

Just don’t get lit on fire. Always good advice.

I Disconnected When Vana Was In The Final Form, I Want To Kill Myself

Originally posted by picten:

I Disconnected When Vana Was In The Final Form, I Want To Kill Myself

Oh, don’t worry, I’m sure Vana killed you as you disconnected. No need to do it yourself :D

i have 3* armour(helm, shield and armour) and i got a 4* sword, avenger and a 4* gun, gigawatt pulsar
i do FSC runs with my guildmates and i can tell u with my arsenal its possible but hard. if u have an avenger so i think that u shouldnt use the 2nd hit until ur really sure u wont get hit and as for the polaris line, knockback in FSC is a blessing. so if anyone is like in the middle of 3* and 4* i think they can do it but u have to be patient and just dont rush it otherwise u’ll end up dead

It is 100% possible, I’ve soloed all the way from FSC to Vana with proto gear, no trinkets, and Proto Gun (took about 50 minutes, No deaths).

You should just don’t try it, if you’re not confident enough of your own, or your teammates’ skills… If you’ll have to waste 30~ CE just in revives, you should train more, learn some better ways to play and then do it. It’s just Vana, another of those old, easy-to-kill bosses.

~Thegame_vice

^Actually, I don’t think it’s ‘just one of those old easy-to-kill bosses’.
I saw youtube videos about Vana, and they were all 5*, but they didn’t kill him so fast or easy.
So I think that you are someome who has just really good experience, but not everyone can do that.

And pict, It’s A Little Bit Annoying To Talk Like This.

Originally posted by Yaysun:

^Actually, I don’t think it’s ‘just one of those old easy-to-kill bosses’.
I saw youtube videos about Vana, and they were all 5*, but they didn’t kill him so fast or easy.
So I think that you are someome who has just really good experience, but not everyone can do that.

And pict, It’s A Little Bit Annoying To Talk Like This.

If you don’t believe he’s that easy to kill, add me in-game “UThief” and ask for a Vana run. Just don’t hold the team back and don’t die too much, and I’ll show you how fast it can be to kill Vana :D

Originally posted by Yaysun:

^Actually, I don’t think it’s ‘just one of those old easy-to-kill bosses’.
I saw youtube videos about Vana, and they were all 5*, but they didn’t kill him so fast or easy.
So I think that you are someome who has just really good experience, but not everyone can do that.

And pict, It’s A Little Bit Annoying To Talk Like This.

I often kill vanaduke without getting hit. Hence, he is easy. This is because of the shivermist buster, which makes him immobile. You don’t need a lot of experience to exploit this, I was killing vanaduke with ease about 10 runs after my first success. And in a decent party you can kill him without a shiver and without getting hit, largely because he’s so incredibly predictable.

Easy vana solo guide~

First stage~ There’s 2 methods I’d recommend: First, Shivermist buster+Blitz needle (I wouldn’t recommend this one though, because without MSI, or a good computer, blitz’s charge will most likely leave you in the middle of vana’s hit, even if you walk righht behind him) Second, Kite vana until he hits once, then spam either polaris, Argent Peacemaker or Blitz needle charge (This one takes kinda longer though) Any weapons on the lines of the ones I mentioned before work too.

Second Stage~ As soon as vana stops receiving damage from first stage, go and grab some water, and throw it to the mask as soon as it gets on fire. If you have a Leviathan, or a Fang of Vog, one charge attack per water thrown should be good to kill it rather fast, if they’re not lvl 10 yet (no free CTR) just do normal attacks, and repeat.

Third stage~ Charge your blitz while vana is walking, release as soon as zombies spawn.Then do the same as First stage.

Fourth stage~ Same as second.

Last stage~ If you’ve been hit along the first four stages, and you have no pills left, charge your FoV or leviathan, and release it behind a charger as soon as it spawns. The FoV should take only 1 time, leviathan might take 2 (Btw, after first charge, just kite him and do single hits while they’re charging the air or wall). If not, do the same as Third and First stage, just be carefull with the chargers, dodge as much as possible… No charge attacks after first blitz.

If you got a slow computer, or you’re not good at multitasking, water down the LOWER fires, there’s a fire limit, as stated before. This will make it easier, but it will take longer, and might make you get hit by chargers on last stage, since you can’t shield while carrying water.

Good Luck with your Vana runs!! ;D

~Thegame_vice

i dont think u should use FoV in vana cuz it has a chance of getting u on fire which is also stronger than normal fire plus if u have anything like a dmg booster than the fire from FoV will cause u more dmg than before. also there is no use of lighting anyone on fire cuz there impervious to it so besides knockback and greater dmg then leviathan FoV’s charge is useless so u should stick to its normal attacks because i dont think unnecessary dmg on u in the throne room is one step short of stupid~still its only my opinion

Originally posted by syedumer:

Post regarding how bad FoV’s charge is~

It’s not bad at all. It’s only a chance that it will set you on fire, and well… Such a small amount of dmg shouldn’t be something to worry about, Hearts, pills and remedy pills drop like rain in there, you should be fine.

If it’s still a trouble for you, get the Vog Cub set, or some set with fire resistance, even Grey Owlite Shield helps.

If you still can’t defeat vana, go get some other sword and make it last longer… but feel safer =P

GL & HF ~Thegame_vice

Syedumer… please… he’s not saying to use a FoV in a standard annoying person with a levi way (which might actually work seeing as hearts and pills drop like rain), he’s saying to use it at critical points where the FoV’s massive damage in a half second will destroy some very annoying monsters. It’s normal attacks are pretty much pointless, don’t really know why you’re suggesting them. The FoV will do 2260 damage w/o any bonuses (on a stationary target) plus fire, so it’s actually incredibly useful…. though I haven’t actually used one, ever. And on the anti-shiv thing that vice said.. it’s pretty unlikely that he’ll make a full turn if the blitzing players are properly synced, but it’s still possible. Fire balls that block bullets tend to give pauses in his turning seeing as the shiver will stop his rotation. Also, it’s once again possible to freeze both vanaduke and a slag guard in one go, making stuff even easier.

It is possible, why not? 3* gear can get you through, even if your teammates are not that experienced. I’m not sure about 1* though, will try this out one day when I have nothing else better to do.

i think azure line is very pointless cuz it dosent do good in RT and Vana it only is good in JK and snarbo. when u get to higher depths in the game u’ll notice very few monsters do normal damage so its not that good to be protected against….piercing is only good when ur fighting slimes or u get hit by spikes…but still it can be possible to do FSC in it but if u get hit ur in a load of trouble cuz azure line gives 0 elemental protection and 0 shadow and 0 fire resistance so just keep ur shield up most of the times =D

Duh, azure is pointless. Almost anything that doesn’t give damage bonuses is. Piercing is good for slimes spikes and beasts. You’ll want it at some point or another. You can run FSC without a shield or protection. You really shouldn’t be using a shield when you aren’t blocking a particular hit, lagging like crazy, or idling.