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Thanks for all the awesome feedback guys, this has been a really fun project, we're taking all the feedback into account, I think we can make this even better! Thanks for all the feedback, keep it coming :)
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I've played other online pinball games and it seems this one is a little sloppy on the flippers. When the ball hits the flippers the hit isn't crisp. It's more like the ball is pushed rather than hit. I don't know if it's the game or my computer, but when the ball hits a flag or a bumper there seems to be a slight pause before the ball bounces back. Here again, crispness. In the last stage, when the ball is hit by the plunger, it doesn't go into the playing field, which is ok, but it has a tendency to drain down the left lane without hitting anything. I lost 2 balls that way. I'm not a computer geek and don't the know the correct terminology so I hope you can understand what I'm trying to say. Otherwise, this is a great change from the run-of-the-mill pinball. Graphics are nice.
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nice, i think this might actually be kind of good as an rpg, like, monsters that can attack your ball and do damage and kick you back, touching the bottom of the stage would cause about a third of your max hp. levels for killing enemies, (basically exp orbs taking the place of coins here.) with a perk system like in epic battle fantasy 2 but the stats are like... max hp, gravity reduction, damage, etc. with perks like stronger flippers, slow time with the press of a key, TILT, etc.
JUST puttin my thoughts out there. give this a plus if you like the idea.
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We're hearing a good amount about the physics feeling off -- can anyone elaborate on how they think it should be changed in order to improve the game? What parts feel "off" is it too floaty? should monster collisions not push you as hard as they do? do the kickers at the bottom feel retarded? Any feedback we can get will help improve the concept!
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decided to change my rating to 5/5. this game is very fun. i didn't find the 'pushing' and 'pausing' to be a problem.
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Played this on the "Kongregate is updating" screen - it's very nice! It flows well even on my wretched excuse for a laptop and the level progression is good.
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Damn, cool game. Only thing is I wish it had a shop so you can spend the money you collected every level on more lives, better paddles, better balls, maybe add a poison, freeze or fire effect to your balls, etc. Now that there would be freaking awesome!
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Microsoft's 3D Pinball (minus the 3D, heh) meets Dungeon-RPG Theme. Simple, yet addictive and fun. The level designs are both inventive and scaled nicely in difficulty. Very well made. 5/5, I look forward to a second.
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Pinball with a gothic RPG theme. Cool concept, but it could use a bit more polish. The music is a bit slow-paced for something like that, and the physics could use quite a bit of tightening, but this is still pretty decent as far as pinball video games go.
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This game is fantastic, it undoubtedly needs badges! i love all the achievements for killing mini bosses, and getting your first million and so on. Great game overall 5/5.
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Well nice work Mike and David, should add an API stat for achievements though. (Er... don't blame me for not pointing that out in beta....). Otherwise a nice change of pace to see some team bring pinball into the Flash environment. It is LONG overdue. Being a real life pinball freak, there are things that are lacking, but that is the great thing about sequels! Overall very nice, simplistic work with smooth play. Although I feel so low now seeing others scores that topple mine.... And to them I say 'Bring it to the real world!!!' Keep at it mate.
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what is wrong with the normal pinball controls? please change it to the normal controls.+ so the developer can see it
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I love this game so so so so much. Sequel plz! also needs badges. Like REALLY needs badges. INCREDIBLE game VERY original (though it did remind me of pokemon pinball and an idea i had a whille back, but you got the idea first, bravo!) Sequel and badges!
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Fantastic little game. Everything is well made, and I don't feel that pinball games were ever about immensely correct physics. The ball has to go where the player expects it to go, and on a computer pinball game, it's not about physics being dead on; it about control. A pool game whose physics are "too" perfect will be ruined, and the same goes for a pinball game. Typcally, computer pinball games (Epic Pinball etc) include a tilt button to allow the player a second chance when the physics did not behave in his/her favor. I think this game is just fine the way it is right now. I'd say, though, sacrifice the pixel style and make the ball an actual sphere. Good job.
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awesome game. There aren't many pinball games in the free gaming world. In fact, I think this is the first one I've seen! Anyway, keep up the good work. (5/5)
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With some tweaks to the pyshics and natural enhancement that sequels have, this can be a very good series. Keep up the work!
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This is an underused genre and one of my favorites (graphical pinball). You've done some innovative things with it too- I love the bosses and the treasure chest room with the upgradable treasure chest. That's probably the best pinball layout I've ever played and it was great. The Realm of Hades level has great bosses but is boring overall. The music is a bit monotonous and I would prefer music that suits the adventuring/zelda/D&D feel of the game, but it wasn't too bad. The physics were reasonably good but could be improved a bit to make the ball seem heavier or more real. A tilt option would complete the feel of the pinball genre, of course. I give you 5/5 for this, but I would love to see you do more with it. Multiple ball power ups and paths that toggle every time the ball goes over them (so you have to light up all three or five to get a bonus) would help expand the strategies available in the game.
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I like the idea, but isn't the game missing a much needed tilt button? Also, too often, I felt as if I didn't need to do anything--the ball would just, on its own, keep mowing through the respawning enemies. There need to be a wider variety of shots, a clearer way to lock balls for multiball, and perhaps more unique features for each table rather than just a mini-boss or boss. You might also enhance the theme by creating four character types, and instead of letting them tilt, they can each cast a unique spell--for instance, a protective barrier that protects the gaps (from the mage), a berserker mode of multi-ball (for the warrior), &c. Love to see what comes next, but for now it's just 3/5.
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Simplicity at its best. I'd love to see this get overhauled. plenty more achievements, some badges.. a whole plethora of levels of longevity, then you got yourself a winner.
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The first three levels are too easy and the last is to hard. Twice in a row, and yes i launched differently, it instantly shoved me down and lost 2 lives
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love it great game but still has room for improvement. 10/5 great difficulty scale but like what Not Applicable said it could use something like a perk/powerup system
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really fun game. The physics that I think that feel off are the... rebound things?. Don't know what they are actually called, but the ball pauses on them before it bounces off. Seems like it should rebound immediately. Other than that, I think the physics are great. Nice game 5/5.
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As many have said, I think this game could really fly if it had some rpg elements too - maybe not an exp system, but using coins to buy upgrades rather than them being for points? Then it would create an interesting balance between trying to get a high score and getting enough money for upgrades.
Also, the physics are off - monster collisions propel you too much if you hit a few in a row. I feel the bumpers/kickers (uncontrolled ones) are too strong aswell.
Great start though! Keep up the good work! 4/5
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A very fun pinball game, I clicked it thinking it was just another dumb pinball game, then I get a pinball game with quest, and good levels.
The game is a masterpiece of art, I hope you make a 2nd one oneday, or add some new levels to this one. 5/5ed, and fav'd.
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Flippers a little bit quicker on response as well as the bumpers are usually to help guide the ball onto the flippers not eject to the top of the table. Sometimes you can just sit and watch your ball go around and around without having to flip for long periods of time. Adding some Ramps would also give it more classic feel.
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well, im giving it a 4 of 5 for originality, the little quests were fun, the chest in the third level was pretty neat too. the physics need some work. i think the graphics added a different atmosphere to the game than say the windows pinball 3d. i rather liked it. maybe more quests, with a storyline?
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(In response to "How do the physics feel off") The flippers feel weak and the ball often does not ricochet at a realistic angle (hitting a wall dead on and going sideways).
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Nice game overall, but too short. Also, the physics do feel really off. They seem kind of floaty, the ball doesn't seem very realistic. But I have no idea what I'm talking about anyway, so I'll stick a number at the end of this comment. 4/5.
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hey, you mentioned wanting to know whats off with the physics. the ball feels plastic. it flys VERY high with little force. when ABOVE not touching the flippers, when its hit it flys. in real life it would absorb some of the impact and not fly as high as if it were on the flipper. the bouncing is too strong. redo the physics so that it feels like the ball has weight and it should be perfect.
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It's been a long time since i played a pinball. I liked the old school graphics, theres no need for that fancy stuff around this days. I liked this very very much.
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### Please + So damijin sees ###
I thought of a couple things that seemed off about the physics to me. First of all, the bumpers only bounce upwards in one direction. Instead, the bumper should redirect the forces of the ball in different directions depending on where the ball hits the bumper. Another thing is that most of the collisions/animations are happening to slowly, especially the bumpers and flippers. Lastly, something that many people have noted is that the ball tends to "float". An Increase of gravity would help.