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It's quite simple to get the hard badge if you get how it work.
First, if you start with a warrior/barbarian... restart. Paladins are the best in my opinion, but warriors and barbarians are just WEAK. Rogues are also good. Just care about your first two adventurers; all the others usually won't make it to the dragon in time.
Second, simply try to make your adventurers face as many monsters as possible. There's level limitation at some floors (don't know wich ones tough), and most of the time that's the reason why you're running short on time.
Third, you are the one SELLING the items, meaning you earn money when equipping adventurers! So always sell all your items. That's what the third adventurer and all the others after him are for : buying items!
Damage items are better than protection items, since you earn exp faster, and levelling up restore your hp.
Finally, when you reach the dragon ,hit stop if you're about to die. Better to lose a day than having to start over.
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Adventurer: I know I have been down this corridor 100 times, but I want to go again in case a leprechaun comes so i can take its pot of gold.
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It wasn't until halfway through the game that I realized you're supposed to SAVE the adventurers, not KILL them, which I always tried to do. *facepalmheaddesk*
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it would be kind of cool that after you beat the game, you get to make a new dungeon, with the option to place the monsters and stuff on your own. that way you could be a bit more creative with your dungeons! also , maybe there could be multiple kinds of monsters for the different floors, not just one kind, because it's nice to have a bit of variety.
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To EVERYONE complaining about your army not going to the second floor, read the announcement that says: "Warning! NO GOLD COINS on this floor! Adventurers will not go to the next floor!". That means you need to buy the next floor and then put at least one of those "money bags" on your dungeon's ground. Hope this helps.
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Muspell's comment helped. Other tips: Use one slot for gold boost items in early game until day 18. With gold boosts in each character, you don't have to worry about gold at all on day 20 (You should reach lvl 15 by then). Use the extra gold to rebuild the paths to maximize suvivability/exp. MOST IMPORTANTLY, when you fight the dragon, make the shortest path to the dragon, yet still make it accessible to items like healing potions and exp. Use the arrows to avoid any traps and other monsters (you should have so much gold that you can use them freely). I don't recommend any healing items AT ALL, but if you use the item which heals when you walk, you could build long loops to heal while fighting the dragon. Also, items that add attack % are MUCH more useful late game than early. My final stats when facing the dragon: 3 main characters lvl 13 (1 revive, 1 crit buff, 1 attack% buff each). They killed the dragon with more than 80% health left on avg (if you count unused revives as 100%)
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To beat the dragon, buy every (yes, every) tile on level 15, and give your adventurers some HP/empty tile equips. It takes forever, but they regen back to full by the time they figure out where the dragon is.
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There's a hint that says it's a bad idea to connect too many monsters in each level.. Seriously, don't listen to it. Trying to avoid monsters will reduce your income and also prevent your heroes from leveling up.
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Random Hint: "Adventurers prefer straight paths and will rarely explore side passages". Oh yeah? You know how many times my guys have hit all traps and spent -2gp hitting money bags repeatedly because of all the side passages they "rarely" went to before finally going my main path?
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while a long and thought out walkthrough may be helpful, it really isnt necessary. I won in 22 days and all I did was focus the path of each floor to use as few tile placements as necessary, so that you save enough gold to unlock each floor quickly. Make sure that when you get items, even if its one you dont want, get them. It actually gives you money instead of taking it away, and it costs nothing to sell them so you can place them and just get rid of them for the money. If one of your characters has equipment thats lower than one in the store, like +5 damage with +7 in the store, make sure you replace it. Dont give your most powerful stuff to the new people in your group because they may die, have your highest leveled character with the highest leveled stuff. Finally, once you have the last floor, swap out any equipment that gives you money because you no longer need it, focus on damaging weapons instead. Wow, this turned out to be longer than I expected 0_o
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hey everyone, this is the December entry for nerdook games. lots of love to the playtesters for all their feedback and contributions, i could never have done this without them. do give the game a try before rating it, i decided to try something different for a change. feedback and criticisms are welcome! also, Nerdook Productions now has a Facebook page. :)
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Frankly, I didn't have a problem with the hero navigation like everyone else seems to have had. Random makes sense, and if you don't like the path they're going, change the dungeon layout.
Second, we should NOT be able to place the items on our own, that's literally the only aspect of the game that creates any sort of challenge or thought. Without that, the game has no point, as you'd just be throwing down "monster, potion, chest, coins, monster potion, chest, coins" over and over and you'd win without any effort.
Great game Nerdook, much appreciated.
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IDEA! How about "Dragon Mode"? You place the monsters, items and paths. Then, you choose adventurers (class? level? items?) and simulate a run. That could be fun. Kind of like Sandbox Mode in Bloons TD.
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Really great! My only nitpicks would be:
1) It should be made clear to the player that lower-level items will overwrite higher-level ones in the store, or else that shouldn't happen. I had to watch the store while a raid was in progress to notice it happening, and it's silly to make the player ignore the action like that.
2) It should be possible to sell store items without selling them to an adventurer. I assume unsold items are simply overwritten -- it's always optimal, then, to sell and immediately delete all but the last item before finishing the selling process.
3) Maybe remove the "must have at least one gold bag on a floor for adventurers to move on" mechanic? It feels very weak to carve out an entire floor and then lose a day of exploring it just because you forgot to place one gold bag.
Very minor points, definitely. Great, great job!
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Came back to play this game again. Still fun but I just wish there was better item management and ability to remove characters that I don't want sucking experience from my new lv1 with a fancy +10 hp per level item
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i dont care much about records and ratings, im more in the game for it being a massive level editor, ther arnt many out there: and this is one where you can build path traps out of coins, and since your adventurers move around randomly: why not torture them from their own greed?
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i got alot of ideas that can be added to the game like when yu beat the game you can start puting cheats and traps and health and portals and enemies but you have a limted amount f thoose items per floor of the dugeon and you can make it as high as 100 floors and you can make the boss easy and make mini bosses
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Nerdook, your game is a subversive masterpiece.
It's not about killing the characters, it's not about killing the monsters, it's about running a dungeon for profit and reward, with due regard for players Health and Safety.
It reminds me of playing D&D at the age of 14, when it was all about Hotel Dungeons, Monty Hauls and Pwnage.
And as for the excruciating Victory Song . . .
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Nerdook, I would suggest that on dungeon crawl you can choose which item gets tossed instead of randomly losing one you wanted to keep. Also when you have one that allows you to resurrect from 0% hp it counted as a loss instead of reviving the character. Really fun game, I have enjoyed all you have made.
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Day 24: realize although I finished tiling floor 15, I forgot a coin on 14, so I put a coin on 14.
day 25: realize the coin was facing the wrong way on 14 :(
day 26: change the coin direction and win with lots of health to spare.
Feels bad man.
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Still come back every so often and play this one. Just puts a happy stupid smile on my face to hear the end song. :) Thank you. I needed that today.
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@everyone complaining their adventurers won't go to the next floor: they won't go to the next floor unless they run over a bag of gold. (Would YOU risk life and limb if there was no cash in it for you?)
Just put one at the end of your path, shoving them into the exit.
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You can use the random movement to an advantage... For the dragon fight, open up most of the tiles and equip a few health/tile items. That way your heroes will get a chance to heal between fighting the dragon.
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I wish it had been more clearly explained that heroes, once dead, were gone forever. I didn't realize this until I noticed that I suddenly had level 0 heroes and still the same number of heroes.
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To add on to Musell, when creating your pathways, make your pathway to the exit as short as possible with single side paths leading to other minions and treasure. This allows a much better chance at lower level heroes to catch up by increasing the chance that they will kill an enemy the higher level hero might have missed. You don't need to have your main hero to attack all available enemies to level him up. They level up after killing only 1 or 2 enemies that are 1 or 2 levels above it. Also your heroes won't enter a level 3 levels above it's current level in case you're wondering. With this stradegy, Not only did I beat it after 20 days, but I had 4 heroes at battling the boss. (as for the boss, create lots of side pathways and minimize the amount of time the heroes are on the dragon. This gives them time to heal up more so they last longer battling it.
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soooo lets see a adventurer stays in a 2 by 2 corridor with 2 ways to leave and he walks in circles i dont know if the adventurer is bored or stupid.
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Hang on a minute, you're selling me an item I have already! Why on Earth would I buy it? "Because I said so, because I need the money, and because you owe me because THAT'S MY MONEY YOU'RE TAKING FROM MY DUNGEON!" ...Deal.
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OK, I finally got it.
For some unknown reason I have to buy from someone(!) every single dungeon tile I want to step on. So from top view it will look like I'm digging a tunnel.
After that I have to place the gold sacks to show the directions for my low IQ champs or they will walk around randomly. For another unknown reason the more directions I place, the more gold I will lose when my champs pass though them.
And the final twist is: you have to make your "tunnel" to reach monsters to level up your champs or you will not be able to enter the next dungeon.
Should I mention if you don't do anything just keep walking in and out from the first dungeon you will get gold from someone at the end of the day?
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I lost about 3 guys above level 15 to a TRAP. It was quite frustrating to watch your elite characters die in such an undignified way. Even so, Nerdook made this game very well. 5/5
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the shift to fighting the dragon is a bit surprising, you might include bosses on earlier levels so you can work out some strategy for them
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oh, one more thing... can you choose your character's classes? cuz one game, i had like 4 rouges. im playing the game again and now i have 5 barbarians :(
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It really makes me mad that this great game gets such bad rating because some insolent fools are just like "oh NOw ims cant go nest FlouR Owile no Neiyd to Reeyd the InstrUcTions or tup cOmants just rayt one out of feeve." Relay this game should have at least a 4.5 rating.
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This game used to be one of my favorites. If you guys want a really cheap trick to make money, just turn the speed up, then hit the Go/STOP button over and over. It will increase your days, but you effectively have infinite money.
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Well, there's this kind of bug thing. If the entrance is next to the edge of the map, and there's no other tiles but the entrance, the adventurers will walk off the screen if they try to walk towards the edge of the map.
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Use this glitch; at the start of the day, sell items, buy/build/rebuild the dungeon, then click BACK, then continue game. Your items and money will reset back (no changes), but check your dungeon, that's free construction..
NOTE;ONCE a day and will not work on Day1.
Tips;To counter the randomness, use the magic BACK button. Item drops sucks, BACK. New hero sucks, BACK. Messed layout, BACK. D*MN! my biggest lvl hero died! BACKKK!!
#1;xHP/LVL glitch (equip then delete, hp not change), NOT TRUE. That affected hero's hp will be normalized when engaging enemy or trap or whatever.
#2;Why exit so soon? a)portal. b)dungeon lvl is >= +3 than hero's lvl. i.e; hero lvl 3, exit at dungeon lvl 6.
#3;Rebuild dungeon lvl 4 or your highest one into infinite (no path to exit) so the day will never end unless you STOP it.
#4;Items slot max at 7, clear the path to low lvl chests. Or rebuild lvl1 dungeon to exit, so you can assign/sell items while the raid is still ongoing.
#5;Rate up:)
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May I strongly suggest that the adventurers have a brain larger than a pea? It seems that they've been programmed to randomly pick one of the directions they are allowed to go when they come across a turning of any kind, when they have an option of "left or the way they just come" they should always choose left. As it is they repeatedly move backwards and forwards across the same span of dungeon until they suddenly sod off. This does not make for a fun nor an entertaining game, and instead just leads to me wondering why they are too thick to even understand how to put their own shoes on.
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Done in 23 days. Here's how:
1) I built paths to everything EXCEPT for traps. Monsters are good for experience, potions heal and treasure allows for improvements. Traps are only good for saving money you would have otherwise just had to spend on a path.
2) Try to give your best heroes items that give them +2 steps for empty spaces. When they reach the dragon, they'll weave in and out taking potshots at it and be able to heal when they leave.
3) Include long walks and dead end paths at the final level. Your hero will keep going down those paths over and over again, which will maximize their recovery with the +2 item.
4) If a hero gets killed, give their replacement a gold increaser. They won't be able to do jack against the dragon on account of level grinding, but they can increase your revenue for the next day.
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Ok, on further analysis, and as I've seen complained here by others, the adventurers seem to have absolutely no drive to get to the exit. It'd disheartening when they bounce back and forth between the entrance and some totally useless dead-end.
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Needs a 1/1 or at least a 1/2 ratio of selling tiles, since a few bad tile placements early on can really mess up your entire game. Also severely sucks if you get stacked up with one kind of unit (Priests especially it seems), unless it's the rogue. Seems the key to being able to move quickly is to just get a ton of rogues to utilize trap tiles to save money, then make sure you have a couple high level ones that don't die. AI needs a little work as well. Sometimes get a few units who'll do an infinite loop with a gold bag, rather than move on.