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Anyway, this is probably the best puzzle game I've ever played, true algorithmic logic programming, but I love the music too, and the humor is irresistible. "Robobears: Enormous metal polar bears! They like to catch fish, even though they can't eat any. It's disarming! Then they eat you."
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One trick I've found really useful is to come up with independent little sections that accomplish certain tasks, essentially "functions", and then stitch these together.
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@yash92: You need to take off one blue and one red on each iteration of the loop. You'll need to find a way to "remember" where the beginning of the input is each pass.
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I'm a system engineer and I found this game is very good for those who want to become a computer or software engineer because you must think logically.
@Novakaine, each level has a condition to accept or reject the robot eg. "Accept a robot that end with red dot". This is the point why this game doesn't show all input. If your conveyors are built correctly, it must be able to handle all input whatever they are.
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I'd really love to have seen better in-game information/help on the various parts. On the 3rd level are two new items "Select!" and "Input!", neither of which are explained anywhere that I can find. I'd assume they'd be on the page with the [?], but they're not. I figured them out, but maybe just a little popup when you hover over them or something? Otherwise, it's a nicely done puzzle game. Definitely puts the mind to work. 5/5
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If anyone is reading this, I just added a new custom level: Roboscissors. You have to divide by 3. Very doable level, check it out!
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First the bad: Mute button doesn't work. Also the instructions are really lacking, it would be lovely to have a tutorial, or examples. I understand part of the point is that you're supposed to work things out for yourself, but lots of players don't have the patience for that.
Otherwise it's such a lovely game, I wish I had more time to play it. 5/5
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This game is awesome. The game is so simple to play but the complexity it reaches is outstanding; a real challenge. I'm currently stuck at Androids.
Excellent work!
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Steep learning curve isn't helped by a sparse tutorial. Could use visual examples.
My programmer friend tells me that playing this is basically programming a Turing Machine...I asked her "how would you write a program to see if a bit string alternated between 0 and 1," thinking it was an analogous question to one of the levels, and it turns out it wasn't even an analogy, it was what was actually going on in that level, lol.
Haven't finished yet, but my initial impression is that the game is difficult, but rewarding.
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I haven't felt this way about a puzzle game since The Codex of Alchemical Engineering. This game is just as much fun, allows for the same variety and creativity in solutions, and yet works on a completely different play mechanic that I've never seen before. I've still got 3 levels left to unlock (and 6 more that I haven't beaten yet), and it already feels like my brain is being stretched to the limit... but that just makes it all the more satisfying when I finally discover the trick I need to complete a solution. There aren't many games that can keep you glued to your computer for minutes on end without even doing anything or watching anything happen... just staring at the level and thinking. Super solid 5/5.
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Never mind, I found the walkthrough and get it now. I thought that you could only feed it in at the top, not back into the side it came out of.
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I'm a computer science grad student currently taking an course in automata and computational complexity, and I just discovered this game. This is fantastic! :D :D
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I have waited until I completed the game to post in here. Simply putting it this game is AWESOME; my head had to work quite a lot to figure out all of the levels. Art is simple but efficient; levels are challenging and with an awesome difficulty curve. It's smarter than lightbot, more appealing and immediate than krispykrem's games. Also (even if no one cares) educational, implementing concepts as "finite state machines" in a cute visual environment. This game will get even more awesome if the author will add the kong built-in level sharing.
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Comment split in two for length reasons:
Shrag: the problem with generating patterns randomly is that the game would have to know whether the patterns it generated were acceptable or not. That is... somewhere between "very hard" and "impossible." It's related to "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem"
:this.
Vergilius: I know I was a bit terse in places, especially when it came to the binary. What in particular struck you as obtuse or poorly explained?
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Maybe I'm missing something, but when creating a level, I can't get more than 8 tests? Is this a game thing or am I screwing up?
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There's a big ambiguity in the RC cars level that, if misinterpreted, causes the level to be unsolvable (I only stumbled across the correct solution while attempting to test how the newly-introduced printers worked). The required output for the level is "The input, but with the first symbol at the end." What I understood the requirement to be was the original sequence PLUS the first symbol at the end, but what it really wants is the original sequence with the first symbol MOVED from the beginning to the end. If this could be changed I'm sure it would save a lot of people a LOT of frustration!
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The Malevolence Engine can kiss my butt if my solutions take too long, as long as they work. It's not like you're paying me or anything! Besides, if recent events are any indication, politicians cause everything to slow down...
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The hardest one I could accomplish was the robospy. I just can't figure out certain manipulation techniques that are vital to progressing further. A gentler learning curve, or in-game examples illustrating more techniques, would simplify this game a deal and help one avoid bashing their head for some time.
I doubt I could have gotten this far if I did not already have a brief understanding of what we are actually doing in this game along with some logic and binary work.
5/5. (9/10) A very well done game brillantly executed. It just needs more levels or examples in the mid-game to ease the difficulty curve.
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I like the game but I wish the maps were larger as they feel way too small and I can't try half the things I could actually make work.
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Hmm...the Malevolance engine "Sees what you did there" now. A good upgrade from the last time I played.
Now I have to solve Androids for ALL cases now instead of only strings of only up to 7 in a row.
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I think that the "best time" statistic is trivial the way it is presented. The malevolence engine could create something that would take a very long time to check no matter what you've created and that would be your "best time". For example, on the third level, "Lavalamp", the engine gave me a very long series of red and red only and at the very end of it three blues in a row. I felt like this was meant as punishment, but it wasn't logical, as any working setup would have had to go through that whole series to come to the conclusion that it's alright. It would make more sense to have the statistic "highest decisions/time unit" than "best time". That being said, I absolutely love this (kind of) game
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@144325
Lmao, no. What's with all of the spaghetti conveyor-belt?
HEre's a much smaller solution:
?lvl=3&code=p12:5f3;c13:5f0;c11:5f3;p12:8f2;c11:7f3;c11:8f2;c12:7f3;p11:6f2;c12:9f3;
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Is this really what you're supposed to build in the 3RD FREAKING LEVEL?
?lvl=3&code=p12:5f3;p13:5f1;c11:5f0;c10:5f3;c14:5f3;c14:7f0;i13:7f6;c12:7f0;c11:7f0;p10:8f3;p11:8f1;c10:7f3;c9:8f3;c9:9f3;c9:10f2;c10:10f2;c11:10f1;c11:9f2;c12:9f2;c12:8f3;p15:8f0;p15:9f2;i13:9f7;c14:9f2;c15:7f1;c15:6f0;c9:7f3;c10:6f3;i14:6f1;c13:6f3;c13:8f3;c13:10f0;c14:10f0;c15:10f0;
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The gray bar with the 4-colors is the "dot writer." If that's all you see, your machine rejects the empty string, and most cases should accept the empty string.
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@ErikM The malevolence machine only checks strings about 12 colors long, if you make a machine that works with 0-12 long but doesn't work over 12 long strings, it will display that message.
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What does it mean when I get a message of "The Malevolence Engine sees what you did there." but the level completes green anyway?