Yep, I've had that... although it did, in the end, finally reload the start page. Yep, I’ve had that… although it did, in the end, finally reload the start page.

2009-11-21T18:48:34-08:00

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2009-11-21T18:48:34-08:00

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<blockquote>Because we honor justice and the common good, we will not comply with any edict that purports to compel our institutions to participate in abortions, embryo-destructive research, assisted suicide and euthanasia, or any other anti-life act; nor will we bend to any rule purporting to force us to bless immoral sexual partnerships, treat them as marriages or the equivalent, or refrain from proclaiming the truth, as we know it, about morality and immorality and marriage and the family.</blockquote> Much as I dislike religion... I actually agree with that, to a degree. Expecting a church which views marriage as 'a man and a woman' to perform same-sex marriages is, to me, wrong. Suppose there was a 'National Pork Day' introduced into law, and everyone had to eat pork on that day. Would the religions which are against eating pork be forced to abide by it? You'd kind of expect them to run round burning pig farms and refusing the abide by the law, yes? I'm in favour of same-sex marriage - but only if the church performing the marriage is happy to do so. But when the 'declaration' is applied to individuals outside churches (doctors, government workers, health workers), I very much disagree with it. <blockquote>Because we honor justice and the common good, we will not comply with any edict that purports to compel our institutions to participate in abortions, embryo-destructive research, assisted suicide and euthanasia, or any other anti-life act; nor will we bend to any rule purporting to force us to bless immoral sexual partnerships, treat them as marriages or the equivalent, or refrain from proclaiming the truth, as we know it, about morality and immorality and marriage and the family.</blockquote> Much as I dislike religion… I actually agree with that, to a degree. Expecting a church which views marriage as ‘a man and a woman’ to perform same-sex marriages is, to me, wrong. Suppose there was a ‘National Pork Day’ introduced into law, and everyone had to eat pork on that day. Would the religions which are against eating pork be forced to abide by it? You’d kind of expect them to run round burning pig farms and refusing the abide by the law, yes? I’m in favour of same-sex marriage – but only if the church performing the marriage is happy to do so. But when the ‘declaration’ is applied to individuals outside churches (doctors, government workers, health workers), I very much disagree with it.

2009-11-21T18:47:13-08:00

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2009-11-21T18:47:34-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/1/topics/65758?page=1#posts-1482557'>JetLag</a>:</cite> You’d rather a million comments in chat along the lines of “wat boyer”? Though it irks me, I’d rather Bowsmith than having to explain Bowyer to every person without a grounding in general knowledge.</blockquote> I'd have preferred bowyer to be used, in part because some of the 'how do u giv weapons!!!!' questions might be drowned out by bowyer ones, to which the answer is much simpler. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/1/topics/65758?page=1#posts-1482557">JetLag</a>:</cite> You’d rather a million comments in chat along the lines of “wat boyer”? Though it irks me, I’d rather Bowsmith than having to explain Bowyer to every person without a grounding in general knowledge.</blockquote> I’d have preferred bowyer to be used, in part because some of the ‘how do u giv weapons!!!!’ questions might be drowned out by bowyer ones, to which the answer is much simpler.

2009-11-21T18:14:35-08:00

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2009-11-21T18:14:35-08:00

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The reason there'll never be a sell button is that it would let people get gold back from unneeded items. If people could do that, it's likely buying gold would decrease. So it'll never happen. The reason there’ll never be a sell button is that it would let people get gold back from unneeded items. If people could do that, it’s likely buying gold would decrease. So it’ll never happen.

2009-11-21T07:46:47-08:00

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2009-11-21T07:46:47-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/1/topics/65624?page=1#posts-1479545'>stellarXD</a>:</cite> Some moderators put on false appearances when they want something from Kongregate, and show their true form in chat rooms, bullying other players. Some moderators are unfair and unkind. What can we do about this? </blockquote> People putting on different personas depending on who is around them is pretty normal. Online, real world, everywhere. I mean, anyone (or even everyone) who's posted in here could be a kitten-torturing sadist in their spare time, despite their relatively normal appearance. As for some mods being morons... I've yet to meet one, but use the report function if you see one. Can't think of an alternative course of action. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/1/topics/65624?page=1#posts-1479545">stellarXD</a>:</cite> Some moderators put on false appearances when they want something from Kongregate, and show their true form in chat rooms, bullying other players. Some moderators are unfair and unkind. What can we do about this? </blockquote> People putting on different personas depending on who is around them is pretty normal. Online, real world, everywhere. I mean, anyone (or even everyone) who’s posted in here could be a kitten-torturing sadist in their spare time, despite their relatively normal appearance. As for some mods being morons… I’ve yet to meet one, but use the report function if you see one. Can’t think of an alternative course of action.

2009-11-20T18:19:16-08:00

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2009-11-20T18:19:16-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/1/topics/65586?page=1#posts-1479015'>SuperMarioJump</a>:</cite> Not sure where you’ve been lately but quite a lot of the ads here are animated. Having some anime character waving his sword at me to try and entice me into the latest free mmo (no credit card required) is horrible.</blockquote> Flashblock gets rid of those - lets you pick which of the Flash animations on a page to play. Assuming they're Flash (most of the irritating, moving, slowing-down ones are). <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/1/topics/65586?page=1#posts-1479015">SuperMarioJump</a>:</cite> Not sure where you’ve been lately but quite a lot of the ads here are animated. Having some anime character waving his sword at me to try and entice me into the latest free mmo (no credit card required) is horrible.</blockquote> Flashblock gets rid of those – lets you pick which of the Flash animations on a page to play. Assuming they’re Flash (most of the irritating, moving, slowing-down ones are).

2009-11-20T07:51:39-08:00

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2009-11-20T07:51:39-08:00

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15 years, no, but assaulting police should result in suitable punishment, whatever your race. 15 years, no, but assaulting police should result in suitable punishment, whatever your race.

2009-11-19T08:33:10-08:00

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2009-11-19T08:33:10-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/65373?page=1#posts-1474592'>Thatsomegoodname</a>:</cite> Very popular things like iphone</blockquote> iPhones? They're hideous, and popular because they're popular. "Why do you have an iPhone?" "..." "Well?" "Because it's an iPhone." "But why?" "... it has apps?" "Which apps do you have?" "..." Ugly, touch screen, locked-up, dysfunctional class-trailing sack of iCrap. Hate hate hate. -- Ahem. On the topic, generally agree with what Iggy said. In most online communities it seems to be cool to be different, whereas in the real world it's cool to be the same. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/65373?page=1#posts-1474592">Thatsomegoodname</a>:</cite> Very popular things like iphone</blockquote> iPhones? They’re hideous, and popular because they’re popular. “Why do you have an iPhone?” “…” “Well?” “Because it’s an iPhone.” “But why?” “… it has apps?” “Which apps do you have?” “…” Ugly, touch screen, locked-up, dysfunctional class-trailing sack of iCrap. Hate hate hate. — Ahem. On the topic, generally agree with what Iggy said. In most online communities it seems to be cool to be different, whereas in the real world it’s cool to be the same.

2009-11-18T19:33:46-08:00

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2009-11-18T19:35:54-08:00

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The transition from fairly normal rambling to psychics and nine-tailed foxes was so abrupt and hilarious I spat my tea (which I was unfortunately in the process of drinking) all over my desk and half choked on it. Your introduction to whatever odd group you're plugging really shouldn't make the reader nearly die mid-paragraph. The transition from fairly normal rambling to psychics and nine-tailed foxes was so abrupt and hilarious I spat my tea (which I was unfortunately in the process of drinking) all over my desk and half choked on it. Your introduction to whatever odd group you’re plugging really shouldn’t make the reader nearly die mid-paragraph.

2009-11-18T18:20:34-08:00

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2009-11-18T18:20:34-08:00

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It's a difficult one to comment on. It's hard to say what should and shouldn't be done as a blanket decision to cover everyone, especially with something like removing someone's ability to breed. That said, with this particular case my revulsion overrides my morals, and I'd be happy to sterilise her myself. It’s a difficult one to comment on. It’s hard to say what should and shouldn’t be done as a blanket decision to cover everyone, especially with something like removing someone’s ability to breed. That said, with this particular case my revulsion overrides my morals, and I’d be happy to sterilise her myself.

2009-11-17T21:34:15-08:00

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2009-11-17T21:34:15-08:00

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I 'nothing' Obama. From my position in the UK, absolutely nothing of note in my life has changed because of his election. I'd struggle to find anything not of note, as well. So, there's nothing to like or dislike. I ‘nothing’ Obama. From my position in the UK, absolutely nothing of note in my life has changed because of his election. I’d struggle to find anything not of note, as well. So, there’s nothing to like or dislike.

2009-11-17T21:16:54-08:00

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2009-11-17T21:16:54-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/65271?page=1#posts-1472262'>Zshadow</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/65271?page=1#posts-1472167">VintageVanguarde</a>:</cite> I want another arm, can you arrange that?</blockquote> Maybe. :) There was a case of two twins where one had the other’s arm surgically attached to him. Can’t use it, but it didn’t fall off.</blockquote> That was (thankfully) a hoax. I did believe it at first though, until I found out. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/65271?page=1#posts-1472262">Zshadow</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/65271?page=1#posts-1472167">VintageVanguarde</a>:</cite> I want another arm, can you arrange that?</blockquote> Maybe. :) There was a case of two twins where one had the other’s arm surgically attached to him. Can’t use it, but it didn’t fall off.</blockquote> That was (thankfully) a hoax. I did believe it at first though, until I found out.

2009-11-17T18:34:00-08:00

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2009-11-17T18:34:00-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/8852?page=30#posts-1470146'>conspiracy2012</a>:Does this all help make a little more sense or? Scott</blockquote> Adding more crap to a pile of crap rarely helps the original crap smell nicer. In other words, no. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/8852?page=30#posts-1470146">conspiracy2012</a>:Does this all help make a little more sense or? Scott</blockquote> Adding more crap to a pile of crap rarely helps the original crap smell nicer. In other words, no.

2009-11-17T08:33:27-08:00

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2009-11-17T08:34:18-08:00

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Objectively, no, it's not. It's mediocre at best - there are other MMOs which are several leagues above SS. I do like SS's multiplayer bits and being able to work in teams, but it falls short in everything else - equipment availability, variety, skills, combat, world size. The cost to actually access the whole game is obscene, and you basically spend gold to make your grinding a bit less tedious. However... all that said, for whatever reason, I just keep playing it, and love playing it. Bizarre, really. Objectively, no, it’s not. It’s mediocre at best – there are other MMOs which are several leagues above SS. I do like SS’s multiplayer bits and being able to work in teams, but it falls short in everything else – equipment availability, variety, skills, combat, world size. The cost to actually access the whole game is obscene, and you basically spend gold to make your grinding a bit less tedious. However… all that said, for whatever reason, I just keep playing it, and love playing it. Bizarre, really.

2009-11-14T16:40:44-08:00

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2009-11-14T16:40:44-08:00

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Decent enough guy as far as I can tell. Wouldn't vote for him though. Decent enough guy as far as I can tell. Wouldn’t vote for him though.

2009-11-14T09:11:25-08:00

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2009-11-14T09:11:25-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/64584?page=1#posts-1456066'>SaintAjora</a>:</cite> <blockquote> It’s optional. Want to go to University? Pay for it. Don’t want to pay for it? Don’t go. </blockquote> How about those who want to go but can’t afford it?</blockquote> I come from perhaps the lowest-income background there is (apart from illegally-employed human-trafficked migrant Lincolnshire farm worker). If I can afford to go, anyone can. <blockquote> Having a better educated population has lots of benefits. If nothing else, we would have better informed voters. That in itself is worth something. As for the loans, if you start life in debt then it does effect everyone.</blockquote> I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that going to University increases a person's ability to understand politics, but that aside. A better educated population can have benefits (of course, providing there's sufficient demand for 'educated' people - I don't think there is, but that's another debate), but so can a more mobile population, and I don't have a free car yet. Putting that aside too... it's still me who benefits. I got a loan, I'm in debt, but do I regret that? Not one bit. Because I look nicer to an employer than that other guy does, because he doesn't have a fancy piece of paper and I do. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/64584?page=1#posts-1456066">SaintAjora</a>:</cite> <blockquote> It’s optional. Want to go to University? Pay for it. Don’t want to pay for it? Don’t go. </blockquote> How about those who want to go but can’t afford it?</blockquote> I come from perhaps the lowest-income background there is (apart from illegally-employed human-trafficked migrant Lincolnshire farm worker). If I can afford to go, anyone can. <blockquote> Having a better educated population has lots of benefits. If nothing else, we would have better informed voters. That in itself is worth something. As for the loans, if you start life in debt then it does effect everyone.</blockquote> I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that going to University increases a person’s ability to understand politics, but that aside. A better educated population can have benefits (of course, providing there’s sufficient demand for ‘educated’ people – I don’t think there is, but that’s another debate), but so can a more mobile population, and I don’t have a free car yet. Putting that aside too… it’s still me who benefits. I got a loan, I’m in debt, but do I regret that? Not one bit. Because I look nicer to an employer than that other guy does, because he doesn’t have a fancy piece of paper and I do.

2009-11-13T10:27:13-08:00

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2009-11-13T16:21:44-08:00

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It's optional. Want to go to University? Pay for it. Don't want to pay for it? Don't go. I was quite happy to take out loans and have no money when I went... why should the taxpayer pay for me to have a better chance of getting a good job? It’s optional. Want to go to University? Pay for it. Don’t want to pay for it? Don’t go. I was quite happy to take out loans and have no money when I went… why should the taxpayer pay for me to have a better chance of getting a good job?

2009-11-13T05:46:36-08:00

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2009-11-13T05:46:36-08:00

1052434

Gemcraft 0 and Cyclomaniacs. Gemcraft 0 and Cyclomaniacs.

2009-11-12T21:20:25-08:00

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2009-11-12T21:20:25-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/1/topics/64541?page=1#posts-1454901'>JoinClanATR</a>:</cite> Join the clan ATR, which stands for Atari Teenage Riot. Its a clan for every type of gamer.</blockquote> Apart from Atari-hating pacifists under 13 and over 19. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/1/topics/64541?page=1#posts-1454901">JoinClanATR</a>:</cite> Join the clan ATR, which stands for Atari Teenage Riot. Its a clan for every type of gamer.</blockquote> Apart from Atari-hating pacifists under 13 and over 19.

2009-11-12T21:17:32-08:00

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2009-11-12T21:17:32-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/8852?page=30#posts-1425281'>nyamyaoreo</a>:</cite> Don’t forget the Pole Shift as it is almost the only source according to modern day science in which the world could end up in a series of disasters <a href="http://2012wiki.com/index.php?title=Pole_shift">Take A Look At This</a></blockquote> Isn't it mostly believed that a pole shift of those proportions could only occur as a result of an event which would in all probability kill us all anyway? <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/8852?page=30#posts-1425281">nyamyaoreo</a>:</cite> Don’t forget the Pole Shift as it is almost the only source according to modern day science in which the world could end up in a series of disasters <a href="http://2012wiki.com/index.php?title=Pole_shift">Take A Look At This</a></blockquote> Isn’t it mostly believed that a pole shift of those proportions could only occur as a result of an event which would in all probability kill us all anyway?

2009-11-12T21:01:40-08:00

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2009-11-12T21:01:40-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/64553?page=1#posts-1455153'>AlphaDeltaBravo</a>:</cite> Conservatives are fighting for our lives</blockquote> They are? <blockquote>so how about we disscuss this</blockquote> Discuss what? <blockquote>We are americans</blockquote> No we're not. <blockquote>we won’t let this happen at all</blockquote> Good for you. <blockquote>so how about we disscuss this?</blockquote> Discuss what? <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/64553?page=1#posts-1455153">AlphaDeltaBravo</a>:</cite> Conservatives are fighting for our lives</blockquote> They are? <blockquote>so how about we disscuss this</blockquote> Discuss what? <blockquote>We are americans</blockquote> No we’re not. <blockquote>we won’t let this happen at all</blockquote> Good for you. <blockquote>so how about we disscuss this?</blockquote> Discuss what?

2009-11-12T20:46:51-08:00

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2009-11-12T20:46:51-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/1/topics/2914?page=444#posts-1453155'>Sinte</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/1/topics/2914?page=444#posts-1452333">NeilSenna</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/1/topics/2914?page=442#posts-1450252">Sinte</a>:</cite>You don’t look like I remember xD. I remember you as less scary. I think it’s the eyebrows. They are WEIRDING me out. Also, your red arm seems to be oddly shaped. ;dd [pourvous]</blockquote> Well, I suppose I do look slightly different than I did long ago (I mean minus the clown stuff), not changed too much. Bit older, though, sadly :( And the red arm… it does look a bit strange now you mention it…</blockquote> ALIEN ARM! ;dd I take it you won’t be joining the madmen this sat’day? You really should you know >:|. Have Pidge carry you and fly you to London :).</blockquote> Sadly not, on top of the £50-ish train fare there's the small matter of hotel costs, drink costs, travel costs in London... while I could afford it, but have other stuff of higher priority at the moment :( <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/1/topics/2914?page=444#posts-1453155">Sinte</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/1/topics/2914?page=444#posts-1452333">NeilSenna</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/1/topics/2914?page=442#posts-1450252">Sinte</a>:</cite>You don’t look like I remember xD. I remember you as less scary. I think it’s the eyebrows. They are WEIRDING me out. Also, your red arm seems to be oddly shaped. ;dd [pourvous]</blockquote> Well, I suppose I do look slightly different than I did long ago (I mean minus the clown stuff), not changed too much. Bit older, though, sadly :( And the red arm… it does look a bit strange now you mention it…</blockquote> ALIEN ARM! ;dd I take it you won’t be joining the madmen this sat’day? You really should you know >:|. Have Pidge carry you and fly you to London :).</blockquote> Sadly not, on top of the £50-ish train fare there’s the small matter of hotel costs, drink costs, travel costs in London… while I could afford it, but have other stuff of higher priority at the moment :(

2009-11-12T17:56:01-08:00

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2009-11-12T17:56:01-08:00

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I'm on Firefox and in the UK too, and it works fine for me... so it's not that. I’m on Firefox and in the UK too, and it works fine for me… so it’s not that.

2009-11-12T09:14:01-08:00

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2009-11-12T09:14:01-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/64377?page=1#posts-1451044'>softest_voice</a>:</cite> So, just started poking around the forums not too long ago, and only found the “Serious Discussion” section during the course of the last couple of days. In the course of reading through a couple of the different threads here, one thing stands out; There is a pretty distinct lack of grammar evidenced by a lot of the posters here. So, the question is, in the context of this particular internet forum, does a participant’s use of poor grammar influence your take on their opinions? Simply, if someone can’t spell, do you just assume that they’re not that bright, and therefore have no idea what the hell they’re talking about?</blockquote> Perhaps unfortunately, I automatically lower my consideration of a person or thing if they use _significantly_ incorrect spelling or grammar. Most people (me included, probably) will make errors from time to time, but not big ones. My pet hate is the misplaced or missing apostrophe. Or there they're their. But it does depend on a few factors, mostly on the situation and on the topic. If I was discussing... say, vodka, and someone wrote 'Rushian' or 'distild', I wouldn't care much. But if I was discussing the Gulf War and got into an exchange about 'Sadam Hoosain' I'd instantly regard the person as not worth speaking to about the topic. I'm not sure why I'd disregard one but not the other, though. There's also a difference between honest bad grammar and simple laziness. In any situation apart from an obvious joke, I won't take sum1 who typs lik dis seriously at all, and will add 'uneducated idiot' to 'person who's not worth conversing with' in my mental notes on them. Sacred Seasons room chat is a great place to see the difference, especially when people are asking for help. If I see 'plz' following a request, the answer is no. If someone is looking for 'sum1', I'm not there. But write out a proper sentence, and I'll happily help. And it seems a few others respond in the same way. So yeah... generally I look down on it. But not all the time. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/64377?page=1#posts-1451044">softest_voice</a>:</cite> So, just started poking around the forums not too long ago, and only found the “Serious Discussion” section during the course of the last couple of days. In the course of reading through a couple of the different threads here, one thing stands out; There is a pretty distinct lack of grammar evidenced by a lot of the posters here. So, the question is, in the context of this particular internet forum, does a participant’s use of poor grammar influence your take on their opinions? Simply, if someone can’t spell, do you just assume that they’re not that bright, and therefore have no idea what the hell they’re talking about?</blockquote> Perhaps unfortunately, I automatically lower my consideration of a person or thing if they use significantly incorrect spelling or grammar. Most people (me included, probably) will make errors from time to time, but not big ones. My pet hate is the misplaced or missing apostrophe. Or there they’re their. But it does depend on a few factors, mostly on the situation and on the topic. If I was discussing… say, vodka, and someone wrote ‘Rushian’ or ‘distild’, I wouldn’t care much. But if I was discussing the Gulf War and got into an exchange about ‘Sadam Hoosain’ I’d instantly regard the person as not worth speaking to about the topic. I’m not sure why I’d disregard one but not the other, though. There’s also a difference between honest bad grammar and simple laziness. In any situation apart from an obvious joke, I won’t take sum1 who typs lik dis seriously at all, and will add ‘uneducated idiot’ to ‘person who’s not worth conversing with’ in my mental notes on them. Sacred Seasons room chat is a great place to see the difference, especially when people are asking for help. If I see ‘plz’ following a request, the answer is no. If someone is looking for ‘sum1’, I’m not there. But write out a proper sentence, and I’ll happily help. And it seems a few others respond in the same way. So yeah… generally I look down on it. But not all the time.

2009-11-12T09:06:20-08:00

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2009-11-12T09:07:28-08:00

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Neither were correct. Who can perhaps have their actions excused more... the Protestants. Along with all the 'right to religious freedom' stuff I believe in, as far as I'm aware the 'proper' part of the conflict you're referring to (Guises and Huguenots/St Barts were in France... which confused me because the HRE was mostly where Germany is, and not in France) was more the fault of the Catholics. The right to point and say 'they started it' would lie with the Protestants. I think. But as is the case in most conflicts, neither were blameless. Neither were correct. Who can perhaps have their actions excused more… the Protestants. Along with all the ‘right to religious freedom’ stuff I believe in, as far as I’m aware the ‘proper’ part of the conflict you’re referring to (Guises and Huguenots/St Barts were in France… which confused me because the HRE was mostly where Germany is, and not in France) was more the fault of the Catholics. The right to point and say ‘they started it’ would lie with the Protestants. I think. But as is the case in most conflicts, neither were blameless.

2009-11-11T20:35:12-08:00

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2009-11-11T20:35:12-08:00

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