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Topic: Forum Games / The General Thread

Originally posted by adv0catus:
Originally posted by Knoob85687:
Originally posted by Bankzy:
Originally posted by adv0catus:

What about my anus? :o

what about your anus

[lets find out]

gayyy

[for sciiiiiiiiiiiiiiience]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / The General Thread

Originally posted by Bankzy:
Originally posted by adv0catus:

What about my anus? :o

what about your anus

[lets find out]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / The General Thread

Originally posted by BLOODYRAIN10001:
Originally posted by Knoob85687:
Originally posted by BLOODYRAIN10001:

Anyone up for a game of Cards Against Humanity? Password is Walrus.

[don’t ever take bloody up on an offer like this]

[all the people who attend suck and are gay and talk about adv0 sucking them off]

[okay well i at least didn’t talk about adv0 sucking me off because that would be weird]

You were the only one who mentioned that Knob, stop blaming us for ur shit m8.

[i used my blank cards for stuff like ‘ur laif’, ‘virginity’ and ‘Homosexuality’ thnx]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / The General Thread

Originally posted by qwertyuiopazs:
Originally posted by Knoob85687:
Originally posted by BLOODYRAIN10001:

Anyone up for a game of Cards Against Humanity? Password is Walrus.

[don’t ever take bloody up on an offer like this]

[all the people who attend suck and are gay and talk about adv0 sucking them off]

[okay well i at least didn’t talk about adv0 sucking me off because that would be weird]

He didn’t write in brackets in CAH.
The truth has been revealed.

[what truth]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / The General Thread

Originally posted by BLOODYRAIN10001:

Anyone up for a game of Cards Against Humanity? Password is Walrus.

[don’t ever take bloody up on an offer like this]

[all the people who attend suck and are gay and talk about adv0 sucking them off]

[okay well i at least didn’t talk about adv0 sucking me off because that would be weird]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / The General Thread

Originally posted by Helltank:

[something something knob sucks dick lel]

[just gimme one to do that to and i’ll be right on that brah]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / The General Thread

Originally posted by BLOODYRAIN10001:
Originally posted by adv0catus:

Anyone that knows me will get it. ;)

something something anal

[something something i’ll get the camera while you and adv0 get ready]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / The General Thread

Originally posted by coolo2011:
Originally posted by Gonkeymonkey:

My grandmother is also 69.
I did not read the post in Morgan Freeman’s voice. What is his voice like?

Imagine taking a warm, luxurious bath whilst eating expensive chocolates and getting a massage from an attractive person of your preferred gender. That’s what his voice is like.

[you are as bad as chuck norris mehmehs]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / The General Thread

Originally posted by hamuka:

Just posing here because I don’t really want to waste my 6000th post in OT arguing with people.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Story of Mechandria - (Sign up and Discussion thread)

Originally posted by BCLEGENDS:
Originally posted by Gonkeymonkey:

I have proof that one can take over others’ games without permission. Here, Soommor made a game and GotterakaThing wants to take it over due to Soommor’s inactivity. Here, the actual play thread is started by GotterakaThing.
No protesting was involved, therefore it is a perfectly good way to play a game without worrying about the GM’s inactivity.

To be quite frank, that was a practical one-off case. Most games don’t get transferred to the control of others in that manner.

[if cyrus actually abandons the game, however, it’s perfectly fine]

Originally posted by BCLEGENDS:
Originally posted by BLOODYRAIN10001:
Originally posted by Gonkeymonkey:

I’m starting to think that the battles of mutants and humans are unbalanced and therefore I declare neutrality to all of the mutant characters ever created in this game.
BLOODY, your character is not accepted by me, as even with us being neutral towards each other, if you manage to somehow adventure in the northern and eastern sectors and have your power toggled on, I might die and since you get power by consuming souls, you might decide to not return my soul to me.

Gonkey, I’m not gonna not return it, I’ll just end up making a rule this this:
‘if someone would lose their soul in this zone, instead, half of their monetary assets go to the ownership of Yu Kaito’ or some other OP bullshit
Since this is an RP, I don’t believe we can kill off other chars. without their approval anyway, or is that not in this ruleset. Either way, it’s bad form unless it’s some final battle or other.

The point we’re making is, your power is bullsh!t even compared to the powers used by other players specifically because it relies on a relatively semantic framework, whereas everyone else’s abilities actually have defined limits to what they can do; you might as well say “nobody other than Yu Kaito can enter this 100-foot area around himself unless he wants them to be in it” and give Yu a permanent 100-foot wide Instant Death Radius that works on every single player to date without question. Also, you’ve introduced the concept of souls into a game that didn’t previously rely on them to function; I think a game based around mutants shouldn’t necessarily have souls as things that can be manipulated, at least not in the manner you suggest.

[he just wants to be the osiris and dio’s minion]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Story of Mechandria - (Sign up and Discussion thread)

Originally posted by Gripi:

You guys realize inevitably, there’ll be fighting right? That’s what my above post for, and I can see you guys fail to answer the question. I did claim this will more than likely fail without a steady system. Can I just use my wind blades to cut off your head extremely fast and because I said my character is fast he wins? Or is there a way to prevent those moves. I have other players coming at me, so it’s kind of helpful to know this stuff. Also, I will just claim I can keep my wind blades up whole time if there is no real system to know what actually does what.
Edit: all knoob knew how to do was call someone a moron, and say it’s not a competitive game, which doesn’t answer any of my questions, that moron

[tl;dr version]

‘im uncooperative and can’t have a reasonable discussion about things so please make a system to decide whether i win my fights or not’

[also this]

Originally posted by Blood_Shadow:
Originally posted by Gripi:

You guys realize inevitably, there’ll be fighting right? That’s what my above post for, and I can see you guys fail to answer the question. I did claim this will more than likely fail without a steady system. Can I just use my wind blades to cut off your head extremely fast and because I said my character is fast he wins? Or is there a way to prevent those moves. I have other players coming at me, so it’s kind of helpful to know this stuff. Also, I will just claim I can keep my wind blades up whole time if there is no real system to know what actually does what.
Edit: all knoob knew how to do was call someone a moron, and say it’s not a competitive game, which doesn’t answer any of my questions, that moron

I answered your question. The GM is supposed to decide how fights play out if you can’t work out a compromise with the player controlling the character whom your character is fighting. Again, don’t claim that the RP will fail until you’ve learned how RPs work in FGF. Most RPs here are freeform storytelling moderated by the GM, and do not have strict stats.

[also need i mention the problems with a stat-based system as well]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Story of Mechandria - (Sign up and Discussion thread)

Originally posted by Gripi:

Okay, when we fight how will damage, countering, distance, armor, and whatnot take place. This will more than likely fail without Statistics. Like, my character has few abilities, which should give him more stats. But Dio can be anything and almost unsolvable, so his damage he can inflict for just starting should be lower. Like, what if he at a screw off and becomes a gun, wouldn’t he need a second person to hold and fire infinite bullets with enough damage to kill 3 shots. Also, what if I literally rip his body into threads with my wind blades. Would his regeneration process be enough to survive even if I took out all vital organs in one second? Or what if we say we stabbed someone but they say nuh uh, I should be strong enough to break that attack. What I’m getting at is without stats, this game is broken on many levels.

[it’s not a competitive game you moron]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / The General Thread

Originally posted by RaceBandit:

When did the third gen start again?

[when nintendo released pokemon ruby and sapphire]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / The General Thread

he was like that newfag like that one time right

 
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Topic: Forum Games / The General Thread

Constant Progress isn’t that much of a minion of Developous.

[He’s only a LITTLE bit a minion of Developous.]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / The General Thread

Originally posted by S_98:
Originally posted by Helltank:

I don’t know who you guys are talking about, and I sure don’t care to find out.

:\

I’ll give you a clue. He has no nose.

[how does he smell]

Originally posted by djrockstar:
Originally posted by Helltank:

I don’t know who you guys are talking about, and I sure don’t care to find out.

:\

B_S is suggesting that CP is a minion working under developous.

[DUMBLEDORE? b-but i thought snape killed you!]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / The General Thread

Originally posted by BCLEGENDS:
Originally posted by aeviternal:

Came to say that I did not drop out of all the RPs I’ve signed up for. I’m having a lot of unexpected work on myself for the last couple of days, and partner that with a recurring headache and you’ve got inactivity. I’ve sent in The Moles quiz and I am halfway through my rp posts. I’ll try to finish them.

p.s.: Sorry, Blood_Shadow and BCLEGEND for not being able to respond

It’s k. Still waiting on that finishing up of your DDR character, so…

[and he shall be the greatest and campiest dancer ever]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / [Community-Related] Inclusion & Elitism.

Originally posted by Helltank:
I have had some bad autism

You won’t get any sympathy for me on that count. I know what autism is like and it doesn’t make you a shitposter, or force you to drop inactive after signing up for a lot of games. Don’t use your autism as an excuse.

one last chance

I’m fine with this. If you fuck this up, I’m going to continue advocating for you to get out.

I have had some bad autism

[Good news, everyone! I’ve taught the toaster to cure autism!]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / [Community-Related] Inclusion & Elitism.

Originally posted by Helltank:

It seems that knoblord and occooa actually seem to have some legitimate points(surprising given the provenance, but hey whatever).

After some thought I have changed my system.

Helltank’s Anti-Idiot System
1) Should a particular user prove himself detrimental to the community, the first step is to determine if his actions are illegal. If so, flag him and be done with it. If not, proceed to step 2.
2) If his actions are legal but irritating and pissing everyone off, then an official complaint about the user, preferably with links to shitposts. A request to modify the user’s behavior might be PMed/shouted to the user as well. I suggest complaints be placed in this thread.
3) If, after multiple complaints, the user fails to change his behavior, an official statement will be made in the master thread that a list of (such and such) regulars have decided to place that user on ForumMute due to his toxic behavior. This statement serves the purpose of drawing attention to that user’s behavior. A summarized version of the complaints about his behavior should be posted here and linked to in the Master Thread post. This statement will also, hopefully, encourage others to use ForumMute as well instead of cluttering up the General or Master Threads(apologies for this) with arguments and complaints.

This way, the amount of people who are expressing disapproval of/ForumMuting a certain user is in inverse proportion to the quality of his posts.

Any questions?

[tl;dr]

[>normal kongregate stuff]

[>except with community action and lots of complaining]

[>and public mutelist]

[a public mutelist in general, not just for this, is probably useful in the first place because if there are people who’ve muted each other like that blohd dude muting gonkey it could probably explain some confusion]

[if his actions aren’t actually illegal, then it’s basically a lynch mob; if he/she’s disruptive to games then hosts can ban him/her at their own discretion]

[still doesn’t explain how you come to consensus; if you somehow get this implemented i am literally going to flood the system with complaints about you unless that’s fixed; if you don’t need to have consensus and can literally just post complaints about anyone then i can still do that; even if you can impose a minimum limit on the number of people complaining i’m pretty sure i can convince some people to go along with it (including my friends tellhank and Helltamk) because they think you’re an idiot]

Kongregate’s Anti-Idiot System
1) Should a particular user prove himself detrimental to the community, the first step is to determine if his actions are illegal. If so, flag him and be done with it. If not, proceed to step 2.
2) Cry salty tears.
3) Repeat until you ban them from all your things and learn to ignore them, or they do something illegal.
4) Repeat until everyone does that.

[look, i can write up fancy too]

[sadly this system is predicated on the people using the system not being idiots, and sadly it doesn’t seem they can handle that, but at least it’s not just some dude claiming a plan as his when his plan is basically ‘file official complaint>file unofficial complaints>stick unofficial complaints in a place where people can see them’]

[EDIT: I should also note that the purpose of this system is different from the original, since it basically just makes a lot of complaints that people have and can at best be used as a measuring stick for how untrustworthy someone is, and no mention was made of the removal of complaints too, i guess]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / [Community-Related] Inclusion & Elitism.

Originally posted by BLOODYRAIN10001:
Originally posted by Knoob85687:
Originally posted by BLOODYRAIN10001:
Originally posted by occooa:

developous has been here recently, and people’s treatment of him was not justifiable at all. So I have seen it.

And I also would argue that on the internet, seeing something a few months after it occurred is basically the same as at the time (given in both situations you would be an observer). I think so because all details of the event are preserved perfectly, something unobtainable in real life.

I was on FGF when Dev first appeared. I remember what he did. He deserved it. Don’t act stupid and try to defend him, he’s a scourge to FGF, and his treatment was largely justified. How’d you like it if YOU made a forum, and them someone did the shit he did. He was an annoying bugger, good riddance.

[ohmuhgud dev hurted mai feelings cri cri]

[No, he’s a mentally ill dude on the internet. For reference, occooa isn’t defending his actions, just, y’know, his ability to not get treated like shit. Not to mention that people bothering him was just generally unproductive. To be honest I don’t particularly remember any particular things committed against Dev but certainly the situation would’ve been better if people hadn’t all simultaneously lost their heads.]

[also gee bloody i didn’t know you made the forum games forum, no wonder you’re so personally outraged]

I’m pissed at him, because he’s annoying Knob, not because I feel all high and mighty. And lemme see, if Dev is pissing us off, calling us terrorists, etc. we’re not allowed to be mean to him? That doesn’t seem fair at all.

[then call him a faggot when he does things if you MUST but you don’t need to constantly exalt him to the position of ‘scourge’, though you’re as well just ignoring him]

[plus it’s generally in bad taste to pick on the mentally ill]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / [Community-Related] Inclusion & Elitism.

Originally posted by BLOODYRAIN10001:
Originally posted by occooa:

developous has been here recently, and people’s treatment of him was not justifiable at all. So I have seen it.

And I also would argue that on the internet, seeing something a few months after it occurred is basically the same as at the time (given in both situations you would be an observer). I think so because all details of the event are preserved perfectly, something unobtainable in real life.

I was on FGF when Dev first appeared. I remember what he did. He deserved it. Don’t act stupid and try to defend him, he’s a scourge to FGF, and his treatment was largely justified. How’d you like it if YOU made a forum, and them someone did the shit he did. He was an annoying bugger, good riddance.

[ohmuhgud dev hurted mai feelings cri cri]

[No, he’s a mentally ill dude on the internet. For reference, occooa isn’t defending his actions, just, y’know, his ability to not get treated like shit. Not to mention that people bothering him was just generally unproductive. To be honest I don’t particularly remember any particular things committed against Dev but certainly the situation would’ve been better if people hadn’t all simultaneously lost their heads.]

[also gee bloody i didn’t know you made the forum games forum, no wonder you’re so personally outraged]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / [Community-Related] Inclusion & Elitism.

Originally posted by occooa:

developous has been here recently, and people’s treatment of him was not justifiable at all. So I have seen it.

And I also would argue that on the internet, seeing something a few months after it occurred is basically the same as at the time (given in both situations you would be an observer). I think so because all details of the event are preserved perfectly, something unobtainable in real life.

[unfortunately people do that rather than exercising some sense, yes]

[i already considered this but what i said was based on the assumption that the person considered in this didn’t read through the logs of everything he did; ‘meeting the guy’ is basically the same as reading his logs, you wouldn’t need to engage in discourse with him; nonetheless i don’t think everyone reads up on developous when he appears, they just go ‘oh, who’s this person and why does everyone hate him’; there is much information in this forum to sift through]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / [Community-Related] Inclusion & Elitism.

Originally posted by occooa:

When I got here, I said, why so mean to developous? Then I got to know him, but my opinion didn’t change. And PLEASE don’t say “you just didn’t know what he did”, because YES, I did. I’m not stupid and that’s a poor excuse for harassment. I didn’t like or dislike developous, but he helped me to form opinions on a lot of users.

Originally posted by ConstantProgress:

I just want to play games. So, can this thread be locked, thus, this conversation over? I really just don’t want this anymore. Just quit the conversation:
as I have done…right…NOW.

I think this request should be honoured, considering THE THREAD IS BASICALLYCOME SHIT ON THIS GUY”. And you won’t even allow him the choice to make it stop. Fucking wonderful.

[never advocated harassment for developous; in case you haven’t noticed i don’t like the way helltank treats people and i don’t particularly find it applies to anyone; i only meant that people would sometimes be unable to understand the context of why developous is excluded for example]

[when i said that people didn’t necessarily understand, i meant it’s difficult to understand the context for any sort of situation without witnessing it yourself firsthand; you might hear what developous did but you wouldn’t necessarily understand what he’s like without meeting the guy; if you claim that you can fully understand a situation from second-hand accounts then yes, you ARE stupid]

[if that’s not what you mean like sorry bro]

I think this request should be honoured, considering THE THREAD IS BASICALLY “COME SHIT ON THIS GUY”. And you won’t even allow him the choice to make it stop. Fucking wonderful.

[personally i’m fine with people shutting up about him and dealing with their own internal affairs; that was sort of the point of what i said; if he’s going to talk back about it then they can have a discussion if they want]

[as for this thread, the topic is ostensibly not about disliking constantprogress, it’s a discussion of the affairs of fgf; he just happens to be relevant and if anything gets too inflammatory you can always flag it]

And why so mean to Helltank?

[because he’s being an asshat]

Does it seem to you that Helltank is way more mature than CP?

[no, and neither do you]

Actually I think the crux of the problem is in the moderators.

[no, the job of the moderators is to run an inclusive site; it isn’t their goddamn job to ban people from the site unless as an absolute last resort, and if you don’t like that write a complaint to the people who own the site]

If these mentally unfit people are promptly muted in the FGF, we don’t need to harass them, so it is good for both parties? You don’t think FGF regulars like to harass people, right? And you don’t think people like to be harassed, do you?

[please stop being stupid]

And using the standard across “da interwebz”, our harassment to CP is relatively minor. Petite, I want to say. You don’t really want to know how Krinlabs regulars harassed me 10 years ago.

[‘well, officer, i may have murdered that man, but compared to SATAN…’]

[your personal issues have nothing to do with this; please don’t let them affect your conduct towards people]

Hence I don’t think this thread should be locked. We didn’t say CP is fat; we also didn’t say CP’s momma is fat; and we didn’t write CP’s username on a picture of a penis. The only accusation is that CP is mentally unfit for FGF, and this is widely agreed. (For the more serious parts of FGF, at least.)

[the thread is ostensibly not for drawing a lynch mob and that’s why i’m okay with it]

[if the thread was as you claim rather than being a place for people to have discussion, then it should not exist]

Originally posted by Lebossle:

In case you didn’t get it, my idea is basically “let the hosts themselves handle problematic players, and maybe help them a bit with doing that”

Originally posted by Bluji:
Originally posted by Lebossle:

In case you didn’t get it, my idea is basically “let the hosts themselves handle problematic players, and maybe help them a bit with doing that”

Indeed. Problem solved:
1. Ignore games you want to ignore.
2. Mute people and then make games and say that people you have muted can’t join. If they try to interfere, report them for harassment.

[precisely]

 
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Topic: Forum Games / [Community-Related] Inclusion & Elitism.

[excuse me if i’m talking out of my ass because i haven’t followed this farce]

[no, you don’t need a system to deal with ConstantProgress, he’s not really impeding your ability to play games or enjoy the forum if everyone who doesn’t like him bans him from their games or ignores him; since vote is pretty unanimous that he sucks then that’s effectively a ban from fgf until he stops sucking]

[until he breaks the site or forum rules it’s probably up to individual discretion what you do about him; true, there’s a rule against being an asshat, but if we applied that tellhank would get banned too; constantprogress might be a dick, but so is tellhank; that rule’s generally taken pretty lightly or we’d have bans everywhere]

[personally i’ve read a couple of his posts and already i think he’s an asshat but then so are lots of people]

[if you think he’s going to ruin your game, don’t let him join]

[if you don’t like what he posts, don’t bother reading his posts]

[hell, since vote is pretty much unanimous that he sucks you can probably get away with forummuting him]

[as long as it doesn’t get in the way of anything else, people are free to argue with him if they want, i still think it’s stupid but whatever; hell, civil discussion is fine, i just don’t really expect both parties to be able to hold one]

Originally posted by Helltank:

General Arguments Against Letting Scrubs Into FGF
1) It is generally acknowledged that FGF receives many newcomers.
2) It is generally acknowledged that a certain percentage of these newcomers do undesirable things like spam and make posts of extremely low quality.
3) It is generally acknowledged that some of these undesirables can be very persistent if shown any mercy and will keep on making spammy/shitty posts when told nicely to cease and desist.

THEREFORE:

1) For the good of FGF, an effective method of ensuring undesirables do not infiltrate us must exist.
2) As experience has shown, talking nicely to them does not work very well.

I PROPOSE:

1) The first time, tell them to stop making low-quality posts.
2) The second time, order them to get out of FGF.
3) The third time, flag all their posts and boycott their games.

THIS:

1) Will ensure that we do not have undesirables
2) Will ensure that future undesirables are scared away
3) Will ensure that genuinely good newcomers are allowed to stay.

[firstly i’ve gotta say that you aren’t exactly talking nicely to him helltank, but whatever, i’m sure you have your reasons]

[another thing; the second time you order them to get out of FGF yet they’re just free to like… not do that? it’s only the third time you actually do something? remind me what the point of this step is?]

[as far as i can see there are basically three methods you can do anything by; collective boycott, institutional boycott or just calling the mods to deal with things]

[i’ll start with the mods; assuming copro is genuinely trying and is just an idiot, they have actual authority unlike helltank who is basically just a swearing idiot on the internet; signaling that he (and probably some of the other parties involved judging from the contents of helltank’s posts, but as i said i haven’t been following) are in the red would probably make him stop. reading copro’s posts, mind, there’s always a good chance that he’ll just be like ’i’m institutionally oppressed!’ and will stick around forever because it’s basically not the mods’ job to ban anyone; still if they’re fair and unbiased and try to cool things (like the mods generally are and do) then maybe he’ll listen. i have my doubts. of course, gevock is basically perennially unavailable and there’s still no guarantee that things won’t just do a developous, as it were]

[institutional boycott is basically what helltank suggests, i assume, since we already have the power to boycott anyone we like. if that’s not what he’s suggesting, he’s free to correct me, but i can’t see anything else that we don’t already have in this area. assuming this suggestion IS what i think it is, honestly this is so flawed it’s laughable. firstly, what are you going to do, set up a public blacklist? post in the master thread a list of people who are to be destroyed at all costs? the problem with such a thing is that you have to get unanimous agreement; how are you going to make sure other people on the forum join in with the blacklist of doom? threaten them with the blacklist of doom if they don’t comply? if not everyone wants to blacklist someone it’s impossible to follow through on it without thrashing around and laying waste to the community. and if you don’t think agreement has to be unanimous, who the hell arbitrates? who decides that ‘x is a shitposter’? and then even if you go with unanimous vote, who gets to vote? do i get to vote even though i never play any forum games? does some random person just wandering in get to vote? if copro makes an alt who wanders in, do they get to vote? if you have standards for voting in that case, where do you set them? post count is not really much of an indicator; and if you choose people by group decision then it’s the same problem of who gets a vote on that. and then what if someone changes their mind later, they don’t want to be in on this blacklist of doom thing? does the blacklist just fall down, or is it ETERNAL AND UNFORGIVING]

[second, who the hell enforces such a thing as ‘flagging all their posts’? do you just get everyone who doesn’t oppose the decision actively to join you in whacking the blacklisted over the head? or is there going to be some small, overzealous group of people just going around whacking people; ignoring what happens if those people diminish or just don’t check threads, it’s the mods’ bloody job to moderate. and if you don’t exterminate their posts wherever you find them, you’re basically just banning them from certain places, which makes me question the need for some kind of formal system; surely you can manage your own places]

[third, do you really think such a thing is going to make the community look good? remember how every time someone new showed up to the developous encounter they were like ‘but wait, what if he’s not such a bad guy, why are you guys bullying him?’ before experiencing him for themselves and joining the crowd of people who don’t like him? unless the people were there when the decision was made, they won’t take one side or another until they get more experience. and what if copro is still there, and he happens to be convincing? even if he’s not, does having the GIGANTIC DOOM BLACKLIST where people can see it really leave a good impression? ‘all ye who enter here, obey rules or we’ll collectively lynch you’.]

If someone is deliberately spamming/trolling with no attention to advice given by others, nor the rules, then action should be taken.

Otherwise If they are genuinely wanting to create a forum game but lack experiance thus leading to a lower quality thread, then we should help them through the way and give constructive advice.

Helltank if your “system” was implemented, I (along with many others) would not be here today. Just look at some of my early games :)

[you can see from posts like this one that some people would be generally concerned about the possibility of being banned; do you really think people are going to want to join a community with something like that taped up? even if they do, do you think it creates a friendly atmosphere? and that’s if it doesn’t get worse over time; assuming we manage to hold it at the current standard we probably still look like a bunch of pricks]

[fourth, as some people mentioned, what if the person changes? fgf tends to attract a lot of young people; y’know, people who haven’t matured? if you go out of your way to DESTROY THEM UTTERLY then there’s no room for them to come back and not suck unless they stealth alt. and even then, there’s some chance that they might be resentful. sure, if people who don’t like them boycott them, people who don’t like them boycott them. if on the other hand the community comes together to destroy them and all their works they probably won’t come back or will even make deliberate efforts to disrupt the community; and since the mods are so slow about anything, they’ll get away with that for quite a while. and no matter how much enthusiasm you may have now, would you really want to flag thousands of copro’s posts? not just copro; any ‘shitposters’ who drift in?]

[fifth, although you can basically get any post removed by flagging it, you miiiight just attract the attention of the mods after a while. which is basically calling in the first option i dealt with. and do you seriously expect them to be okay with this? i can imagine gevock’s disappointment already, followed by some comments about loving this community]

[this isn’t even mentioning how stupid the ‘three-strike’ system is, because that’s not integral to the idea]

[however all of these problems can be avoided by you using your own personal discretion and ability to boycott; if you don’t want him playing your games, why are you sitting around talking about how much of an issue he is instead of stopping him from being an issue to you personally? if other people find him an issue, they can deal with it personally]

[helltank might just be telling you ‘okay y’all imma ban him, you too’, but if people are free to make their own decision on the matter, there’s no need for discussion on WHAT WE MUST DO AS A GROUP TO STOP THIS MENACE; a discussion about elitism and inclusivism, sure; a discussion about copro’s behaviour, if you really want; a discussion about DESTROYING THIS THREAT TO THE FABRIC OF OUR SOCIETY? not really necessary. anything you don’t have the power to stop him from doing, the mods do; even if he just bitches endlessly in a thread you own you can easily flag the posts for being off-topic and therefore spam]

[honestly, helltank’s motives are hardly very noble, and you might as well ignore the guy; if you argue about it with him then nothing will get done anyway and you’re still capable of boycotting copro on a personal level; if you agree with him, nothing can be done as far as i can see other than wrecking some trains]

[as for copro himself, he’s an idiot; he’s either immature, selfish and entitled or pretending to be; if he wants advice i suggest he should consider other people, but honestly i think more than anything he just needs to get a bit older and more mentally developed if that’s the case]

[all i’ve seen him do is complain about how oppressed he is, but in some cases i really can’t blame him considering helltank’s behaviour]

I wouldn’t flag all their posts, or do it this quickly, but this. This. Most people won’t deserve this. Most people won’t NEED to be ran off. But, when they DO need to be. THIS.

[go effect something about it yourself rather than being butthurt]

I like abusing undesirables.

[well, there you have it; it’s an ego-trip]

[i’m not entirely certain you’re desirable, helltank]

Originally posted by Helltank:

There is a difference which you are overlooking. FGF as a whole isn’t stupid enough to approve obvious trolls. Unlike the voting masses.

[y’know i seem to remember people considering approving developous, considering the original title wasn’t meant to be a badge of respect, but an indicator of frequency of visiting]

Originally posted by Lebossle:

I would define “shitposter” as someone who repeatedly breaks similar warnings. Be it inactivity, game-throwing, or spam-like, or whatever. In light of this definition, if you think the situation is getting too bad you can always make a log of this kind of thing so that when a host gets a sign they can predict how much they can trust that person won’t have to be modkilled and why would they be.

inactivity

[toss them from the game, get substitute, ban them if they do it more often than you can handle]

game-throwing

[ban them from your games if it’s too much, restart the game if it was at an early stage, get substitutes]

spam-like

[mods]

you can always make a log of this kind of thing

[a log is fine; people can still use personal discretion; maintaining such a thing might be difficult, though (who does it?), and what if people don’t want their personal shames up for viewing? if you don’t actually link context for that, people reading it won’t have a proper indication of how trustworthy a person is and it’ll basically become a place for defaming people you don’t like]

I just want to play games. So, can this thread be locked, thus, this conversation over? I really just don’t want this anymore. Just quit the conversation:
as I have done…right…NOW.

[good job quitting; rather than ignoring them you continually shoot posts back at people]

[then again on the other hand a lynch mob might be forming, so it’s not like you have many other options]

I think this is obvious. You clutter up the forums with garbage, you are a nuisance to deal with in games that you join(to the extent that you got eliminated pre-game round 1 by host decision from Moles) and you generally act whiny and irritating.

You clutter up the forums with garbage

[>you]

you are a nuisance to deal with in games that you join(to the extent that you got eliminated pre-game round 1 by host decision from Moles)

[don’t let him join your games until you can handle him then]

you generally act whiny and irritating.

[>you]

It is my hope that if I do this often enough you will either clean up your act or gtfo. Both outcomes are acceptable.

[AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no]

[he clearly won’t ‘clean up’ if you just vehemently personally attack him a lot; it’s more like he’ll just constantly bitch about how you’re trying to utterly destroy him]

[leave? maybe; chance is just as good that he’ll stick around just to annoy people]

[besides, we know your actual motive:]

I only pick on idiots. They’re enjoyable to pick on.

[this is a very long post written up pretty quickly; please excuse any oversights]

 
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[tellhank, stop making low-quality posts]