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Topic: Serious Discussion / The age to appear in porn is 18, but the average world age of consent is 16

Originally posted by onlineidiot1994:

Somewhat related to this, I read someone argue that pornography and prostitution is disdained by the feminist community largely because it creates an objective market condition for sex, which is one of the greatest advantages women have over men in most first world countries (culturally, women are seen as who chooses when and with whom consensual sex occurs). Since it puts a set value on a commodity that women tend to determine based on personal values and what’s at their convenience. The only current way to for men to circumvent this at this time is to either hire a prostitute or rape someone. The latter being a flat out sick and horrid way, and both being illegal (in many countries), it gives women a major bargaining chip in relationships.

What are others’ thoughts on this? To me it seems like a reasonable thesis. People complain that the sex industry objectifies women, and that this is an issue, but on the other hand what’s wrong with someone providing a product that they are skilled and qualified to put out to market?

Well, the internet would be far less magical without porn, so personally my feminist objections take a backseat here.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The age to appear in porn is 18, but the average world age of consent is 16

Originally posted by Aleazor:

There are a lot of people who would like to justify pornography as a liberated woman’s independent choice, but as we all very well know, these girls are seduced by the money, drugs, and empty promises of scumbags who want to exploit them. No matter how we dress it up, there is nothing classy about being a whore. The laws are in place to keep girls from prostituting themselves before they are old enough to fully realize the serious ins and outs of the industry.

http://www.thefword.org.uk/blog/2005/11/suicide_girls_e

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Corporal Punishment

Originally posted by Kasic:
1) I never saw him say that. Where are you seeing it?
2) I take what Jan says with a good heap of sarcasm/mocking detection a lot of the time. If he said it, I imagine it was in response to you.

1) It was [but of course] from a different thread. Pete made a clever jab and I said I’d record it for posterity. Karma apparently thought I was being literal.
2) Yup

Originally posted by vikaTae:
Originally posted by Kasic:

Oddly specific. Was there an incident with an arsonist in your past? I don’t think smacking the kid will make them any less inclined to burn stuff.

It was in reference to an incident at a good friend’s school, yes (he’s network admin). The kid had modified a lighter to emit a very large flame, and was in the process of using it to torch one of the ICT classrooms. The staffmember present at the time was unable to command the kid out of doing it, and had to use the fire extinguisher to douse the material the kid had lit.

The extinguisher undoubtedly did more damage to the innards of the computer the kid was at then the smoke from the litttle bonfire the kid had made, but it was realistically the only permissable way to end the situation. Pity they hadn’t had the forethought to turn the nearest PCs off before extinguishing the blaze.

It would have been a far simpler solution if they were allowed to grab the kid’s arm and wrestle the lighter out of the kid’s possession without ending their own career in the process.


Something similar happened when I was in Jr. High. Only instead of ICT it was the sewing room and the walls were covered with fabric. fire extinguisher stuff everywhere would’ve been preferable to the alternative.

 

Topic: Serious Discussion / Mcdonalds Employee (Advice Please)

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Mcdonalds Employee (Advice Please)

Yes, there, there. It’s lonely at the top.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Corporal Punishment

(Snip)

Originally posted by onlineidiot1994:
Originally posted by Jantonaitis:

I used to whack my students with bamboo sticks in S. Korea. They apparently had abolished it a few years before I taught there but I guess some schools didn’t get the message.

Did they listen to you more before or after you started doing that?

After – they respect the cane. I had a buddy at another school who bought a cane but never used it, he just rattled it across their desks. From the sounds of it, that worked for a while but a deterrent has to be demonstrated at least once to be an effective threat.

As time went on, however, I began to feel guilty and discontinued it. I decided that using it on children – obnoxious shits though they were – made me just as backwards and uncivilized as the adult Koreans. After all, the goal of ESL isn’t simply to teach foreigners English, it’s to demonstrate the superiority of English culture over their native one. So instead of whacking them, I incentivized discipline. Kids in my classes got perks they didn’t get elsewhere, like swearing in class [as long as they were in English], that would be taken away if they fucked up. If they continued misbehaving, I threw them to their Korean teachers.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Mcdonalds Employee (Advice Please)

I haven’t been paying attention to this thread but technobabble is one word. And I don’t see how it applies to office politics. Office jargon is usually categorized as bizmeth or dilberting.

 

Topic: Serious Discussion / Is it right to kill one person to save the lives of many?

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Corporal Punishment

I used to whack my students with bamboo sticks in S. Korea. They apparently had abolished it a few years before I taught there but I guess some schools didn’t get the message.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is it right to kill one person to save the lives of many?

Originally posted by tenco1:
Originally posted by Jantonaitis:

You know, this is why you shouldn’t mute so many people, Karma.

Christ, now I’m getting annoyed you’re bringing that up.

Just saying, the reason we have walls is for all the personal shit to go. If you block access to it, it’s going to end up splattered across the forum instead. Hey, I don’t have anything to say to the fucker that needs to be pm’d, but this thread is just a lot of passive-aggressive textwalls between petes, karma and vika, with occasional guest stars. It’s not very interesting to read, and regardless of petes assertion otherwise, can’t be that interesting to write either.


Can’t you all just PM one another the parts of your posts that don’t refer to the topic at hand?

see, that’s the problem, they can’t.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is it right to kill one person to save the lives of many?

You know, this is why you shouldn’t mute so many people, Karma. Because this shit should have been taken to shouts three pages ago and settled, instead of left on a regular thread to fester. You don’t like to see all this whining on your wall? It’s a hell of a lot worse on a forum thread with no mod around to mass-delete it. I call BS on anyone who still thinks they’re addressing the thread topic.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Bobby Jindal: American Statesman or Republican Toady?

Haven’t seen the movie but the book it was based off – Eaters of the Dead – sucked. Crichton can’t write.

Originally posted by ImplosionOfDoom:

Perhaps he’s overly optimistic or simply naïve to think racism can be ‘wished away’ by just scraping off a few labels.
Obviously the man doesn’t know a damn thing about human nature or the psychology of prejudice,

Amusingly Jindal is Indian-American [and looks it]. The article points out that he used the term on himself a couple days after that remark calling himself ‘the first Indian-American governor’ in the US. Hence ‘Republican Toady’.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Communism Vs. Capitalism

Originally posted by Bankzy:

I’m going to have to say communism, It depends on the leader.
Democratic countries can also brainwash their people that God, the Bible, LGBT rights and gay marriage is right, Which means people will vote for this, luring them into believing they have free thoughts

Minority rights is propaganda? lol.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Bobby Jindal: American Statesman or Republican Toady?

I don’t see how a hyphen is a constant reminder.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Bobby Jindal: American Statesman or Republican Toady?

Story here

Gov. Bobby Jindal believes Americans should ‘return to the melting pot’ to combat racism, and the first order of business is to break the trend of hyphenating citizenship with ancestry ie. Indian-American, African-American etc.

On the one hand, his idea may foster pride in the collective whole, in where they live now rather than where they came from. I’m a third-generation Canadian but I rarely acknowledge my heritage, both because it’s a confusing morass of Western European, Slavic, and countries that no longer exist, and moreover because I have no cultural ties to any of them. And it helps that I’m white. This wasn’t a gradual process either – my grandparents chose not to teach their first language to their kids. They were fine with just being Canadians.

On the other hand it seems like hiding your ethnic identity is a dubious way to prevent racism, particularly for non-white immigrants. You could also argue that identifying yourself solely by geography isn’t any more rational than by identifying according to skin colour or language – unless you emigrate elsewhere [and assimilate there], you’re stuck with it at birth.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Christians and Atheists have one thing in common.

Originally posted by TheLoneLucas:

So what I am getting at is why waste your time arguing over things you honestly don’t know about

Because some Christians wants to ban abortion due to the bible saying it’s wrong.

Only in countries with primitive cultures like Pakistan or the US.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Direct Democracy

Sounds like the way law-making works in NationStates. I actually got booted out of NS a few years ago for being an asshole on the forum.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What do we think of the Maine hermit?

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201409/the-last-true-hermit

Following his arrest, the court of public opinion was deeply divided. The man who wanted to live his life as invisibly as possible had become one of the most famous people in Maine. You could not walk into a bar in the Augusta area without stumbling into a debate about what should be done with Christopher Knight.

FOR

Some said that he must immediately be released from jail. Stealing cheese and bacon are not serious crimes. The man was apparently never violent. He didn’t carry a weapon. He’s an introvert, not a criminal. He clearly has no desire to be a part of our world. Let’s open a Kickstarter, get him enough cash for a few years’ worth of groceries, and allow him to go back to the woods. Some people were willing to let him live on their land, rent-free.

AGAINST

Others countered that it wasn’t the physical items he robbed that made his crimes so disturbing—he stole hundreds of people’s peace of mind. Their sense of security. How were they supposed to know Knight wasn’t armed and dangerous? Even a single break-in can be punishable by a ten-year sentence. If Knight really wanted to live in the woods, he should’ve done so on public lands, hunting and fishing for food. He’s nothing but a lazy man and a thief times a thousand. Lock him up in the state penitentiary.

I lean more towards the critics, personally.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why Do You Need Feminism?

Originally posted by MrBobNamg:

Why are you all arguing anyhow? Modern Feminism = femdom =! Egalitarian Feminism.
There you go, now stop trying to convince everyone blogging about wanting to castrate every man on Earth for no real justification ‘feminism’.

Actually I should probably add more CWC to my post to accommodate the blue ballers who are air balling all over this court with a revision:
wanting to castrate every man on Earth for no real justification is TRUE AND HONEST ‘feminism’.

Speaking of…

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Buy Registered Fake Passport,Drivers license,Id cards,etc

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Also I want 20 000 galactic credits too.

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I MUST obey my master and your terms and conditions.

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Master of Evil

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Buy Registered Fake Passport,Drivers license,Id cards,etc

This sounds completely legitimate. I’d like a passport reading ‘Darth Vader’. I’ll need matching credit cards for InterGalactic Banking Clan and 10,000 galactic credits. I sent you an email.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why Do You Need Feminism?

Feminism isn’t a science. Nothing in the social sciences are ‘real’ sciences.

What I see here are people asserting their own opinions for divergences, and ignoring other possibilities.

The same could be said of your viewpoints. Your arguments for nature are insubstantial. The link you gave points out that both are necessary attributes, but imo doesn’t show how nature strongly influences preference in jobs or relationships, which third-wavers argue is mainly owed to nurture [edit: I wrote nature by error]. You’re free to argue that, of course, but i’d like some indication that you understand that article isn’t simply saying ‘nature and nurture are equally important for reasons’.

I’m aware you know about discrimination. The difference imo isn’t ‘feminist statistics’ but rather deliberate versus subconscious sexism. I had an example of this but it’s lousy so I’ll try to think of something better.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why Do You Need Feminism?

I wonder why I should bother to do your homework for you when you have not refuted the points I made to you in my last post or answered the questions addressed to you therein.
I will oblige this time with a quick google search: 1, 2, 3, 4

Johnny did a pretty good job. If I explain in exacting detail why your links don’t help your argument, will you drop the attitude?

1) This points out there’s a discrepancy. It doesn’t show WHY that exists. ‘Of their own volition’ is unproven. Certainly Meghan would rather enjoy her job than make money, but is she representative of all women? If she is, is loving your job particular to women? Why are there more women in the arts than men?

2) Introduction, third paragraph: innate gender differences for choosing a degree are nonsensical. Fourth paragraph: women may choose an arts major simply to get a degree, or in the mistaken belief that their arts major will land them a job. This disqualifies the ‘men like money, women like fun’ canard, but let’s keep going. Eighth paragraph: men from other cultures have a stronger motivation to seek a job that pays well than white people. in section 6 it posits that women don’t go into engineering or math jobs because of ‘female-specific attributes’. I have no idea what this means but it also notes that such attributes may be shaped by parents who fear discrimination if their child goes into a fiekd not known for female representation.

3) points out that teachers/male colleagues may be hostile towards women entering their field of knowledge. Also that female-unfriendly workplaces [ie. academia] may deter women, and academic scientists both male and female may not hire them based on gender stereotypes. This link in particular is the opposite of your argument.

4) Argues that women choose their job because they want a fun job versus a profitable one. AGAIN – no explanation why.

I have already shown that men and women make different choices when it comes to college degrees. I think the fact that men and women have biological differences that translate to differences in behavior is obvious to everybody here but you.

Yes but you haven’t shown why that happens, or disproven my claim [and that of 3rd wave feminism] that it’s from societal constructs based on male dominance, ie. nurture, not nature as Johnny has pointed out. You know what would prove that assumption wrong? showing how women are not only neurologically different from men but the resulting differences in behaviours extends to career preference. Figure that out, you got me beat.

What should I call it then, if not modern feminism? I’m open to suggestions.

Radfem [radical feminist] works.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why Do You Need Feminism?

^thanks Karma I didn’t see his post.

@Derpaderp

Disclaimer: I like porn, including all the kinds I mentioned [well, not bukkake, that shit’s fucked up]. I’m not denying the existence of BDSM culture, or saying it’s morally wrong. Hell, I agree with Kinsey – refusing to jerk off is unnatural. the gov’t shouldn’t interfere in the bedrooms of the nation, etc

What I am saying is that porn contributes to rape culture and can have an unpleasant effect on one’s view of women. It reinforces the 19th century idea that women are primarily sexual beings, and it does so in a rather expansive way.

Name your tropes: Office [including secretary and boss], school [student and teacher], baby-sitter, wife’s friend [infidelity], wife-sharing, cuckoldry [particularly interracial], quasi-incestual [mom’s friend, wife’s mom, GF and her mom duo, sister’s friend, step-sister, step-mom, step-daughter, twincest, friend’s mom], rape-y [sleep/surprise sex, taxi / hitchhikers, landlords, prison, blackmail – amusingly for finding porn pics on the internet, young girl vs older man, maids/servants, minority victimizations, drunk girls, clubbin’ girls, need money fast, transit gropes, drugs – mainly russian], exercise [personal trainers, joggers, yoga, massage], service jobs [clothing retail, fast-food including pizza delivery, waitresses, car wash], acts [anal, deepthroat, DP, cumface, creampie], voyeurism [camgirls, ex-GFs, gloryholes], bizarre/humiliation [pingpong shows, clowns, furries, hentai, photoshop, vegetable, bestiality] and sure, dominance [bosses, military superiors, principals, rich girls, MILFs,].

The trick with dominance in most porn is that it’s actually a role-reversal: rich bitch gets fucked by the gardener, son’s friend takes advantage of nubile but naive mom, etc. There is, of course fem-dom, but it’s a niche. Everything I just listed is mainstream, and can actually be found together on one site. Rather totalising, is it? I’m sure some subbie girls do get off on the types listed above…but that is also a niche. It’s intended for cis guys, preferably white.

Addendum: characterization of minorities: Darkies [blacks and latinas] have big asses and big tits and correspondingly like anal and titjobs, whites like hair-pulling [especially with pigtails] and BJs [especially kneeling on wood / cement], asians find any kind of sex painful so are often shown in doggystyle for maximum coverage. Arabs and E. Indians are virtually unknown in the West, and I’ve only seen one native and she was depicted as a streetwalker.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why Do You Need Feminism?

The existence of gender roles in the past in no way debunks what I said. The statistical differences in career choice and behavior between men and women is well established.
Statistically women will make different career choices than men of their own volition.

Tradition lives on in the present.

Since those statistics are rather fundamental to your argument, i’d like to see a link.

Anybody with a rudamentary understanding of psychology, neurology, or simply common sense knows that statistically men and women make different choices and have different behaviors. Equal opportunity should lead to an inequality in the job market unless you believe that the only difference between men and women are their genitals. If you do believe that, then you are at odds with science.

Consider me ignorant. Please explain, with corroborating links. FYI I’m going to go over any links you post very carefully so do be sure they back up your claim. While we’re on this subject, I trust you’re aware women may join the US military in combat roles, and in Canada are allowed to serve equally with men with no hedging. Meaning that the argument that women can’t be as physically strong as men is sexist, not science. Western Europeans have the same standards.

On the other hand modern day feminists aim to use government intervention to equalize the genders through quotas and other such advantages. This does violate equal opportunity.

You know, I think i’m tired of seeing of seeing this term bandied. You don’t like labels but you’ll freely use this one on anyone but a 1st wave feminist. Your link disagrees with you:


they 1st wavewished to obtain political and social equality with men, equal pay, access to higher education and professional work, as well as wanting to change laws regarding marriage, divorce, property and custody of children. However their most important aim of the movement was to obtain women’s suffrage…The second wave of feminism was focused primarily on improving social and economic conditions for women. Gale Radford, member of the Women’s Electoral Lobby in the 1970’s stated that the second wave came about because there was still “overt discrimination against women in education, employment, employment conditions, virtually no childcare or family planning clinics, you could not advertise contraceptives, abortion was illegal, obtaining finance practically impossible…the list was endless” (Hoepper; et al, 2005: 197-218). The aims of the second wave were much like those of the first wave, such as obtaining equal pay, equal opportunity for education and employment, as women were finally being encouraged into the workforce but only as unskilled workers; access to maternity leave and suitable child-minding facilities, as well as an end to sexism. For “it was sexism, they [second wave feminists] believed, which had traditionally stereotyped women as weak, passive, emotional and, in short, inferior to men” (Cowie; et al, 1996: 248-258).

Meaning that 1st wavers achieved voting rights…and that’s it. They aspired to more but didn’t get it. They needed the second wave to achieve that, and it was done mainly through lobbying. They achieved economic goals [kinda], but not social goals, ie dismantling rape culture, which is why we have a third wave, not because ‘modern-day feminists’ are pitiful whiners. I can’t help but note that many 1st wavers, like Nelly McClung, were white racists, that multi-race feminism didn’t start until the second wave, and that power feminism, whose signature argument is: “we don’t need to be victims; we’ve already achieved enough for women” was started by two white women, Judith Wolf and Katie Roiphe.