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Topic: Serious Discussion / Can you induce homosexuality in a heterosexual by pavlovian triggers?

Originally posted by karmakoolkid:

He likely would end up a very confused dude.

Plus, they might slip some of this crap in on him and totally blow his mind.

Now, who is Samantha Ryan & Lexi Belle?
Should I be concerned that you know these women?
Should I wonder if it isn’t YOU that we are discussing?

Google image them.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Can you induce homosexuality in a heterosexual by pavlovian triggers?

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Parallel Universes

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Hezbollah human shielding in 2006.

Well, we both agree Dershowitz is a useless tool, that’s something.

 

Topic: Serious Discussion / Parallel Universes

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Jews Are Bombing Gaza

i’ve read Dershowitz. I used his Israel Against All Enemies as the principal pro-israel source for my thesis. he is the most shrill, intolerant, ignorant Zionist of the bunch. His arguments are very much in the vein of Sam Harris – ranging from ‘yes, we have to torture this guy to stop the bomb’, ends-justify-the-means garbage, to look how bad our neighbours are, ‘palestine’ is an invented identity, anyone, but especially arabs and westerners who attack israel [literally or figuratively] are anti-semites, obfuscation and whitewashing of Israeli history [arabs started all the wars, arabs don’t want peace], etc etc. there is nothing admirable about cherry-picking quotes from hamas speeches or Iranian clerics denouncing Israel/jews and using that to justify a culture built on fear – one that creates a space for those speeches to flourish every time Israel brutalizes the palestinians [like the current campaign].

now in contrast i recently read this written by a zionist, but also a realist, israeli military historian, charting the history of israel. I found it surprisingly balanced. he calls israel ‘the greatest success story in the 20th century’, laments the perception problem of a greater military power taking on a smaller one always being viewed in a negative light, and makes much of the fact that israel can and will vaporize its enemies before succumbing to regime change [which actually negates the whole ‘destruction of israel’ thing].

On the other hand, he doesn’t shy away from the ethnic cleansing in ‘47, where the israeli army invaded palestinian villages and drove villagers out, or that the israelis used terrorist groups like the stern gang and Irgun to pressure the british and the UN into making a favourable partition, or that the founder of zionism, theodore Herzl, named the organization that came out of talks in the first Zionist Congress the Jewish Colonial Trust, because at the time colonialism still had positive connotations and herzl didn’t see the need to lie about it the way modern Zionists do.

In sum, Crevald [the author], is an Israeli academic who is only describing events well known and fairly uncontroversial to his audience [similar to an American academic describing US settler relations with aboriginals 200 years ago], whereas Dershowitz is an American Jew and an ideological shill, creating myths about Israel that only the hard-right in Israel [principally Netanyahu et al] would find at all compatible with historical truth.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Jews Are Bombing Gaza

given that israel was key to building up hamas [and other islamist groups] as a wedge to destabilize the nationalist palestinian authority, I find it difficult to sympathize too much with Israel’s latest attempt to exterminate them, and certainly not with their latest rhetoric that they’re ‘the only country fighting islamism’.

 

Topic: Serious Discussion / Parallel Universes

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Jews Are Bombing Gaza

Originally posted by karmakoolkid:

Some insight

“I feel terrible for a Palestinian child who dies,” Maher said, “but if it’s your father, your brother, your uncle who’s firing those rockets into Israel, who’s fault is it really? Do you really expect the Israelis not to retaliate?”

“…one panelist quoted conservative Charles Krauthammer’s piece which noted that the Israelis use missiles to protect their civilians, while Hamas uses civilians to protect their missiles.”

“If the Hamas people had the opportunity, they would kill the maximum number of Israelis, which would be all [of them], and Israel has the opportunity to kill way more [Palestinians] and they do not,” Maher said.

“Dealing w/ Hamas is like dealing w/ a crazy woman who’s trying to kill u – u can only hold her wrists so long before you have to slap her.”

The video covers the Real Time segment the above text comes from.

An editorial on the issue

Another one with some related videos at the bottom.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Parallel Universes

You jokes aren’t funny……………..

he’s far more entertaining than you are.

Ellipsis is treatable you know. we’ve made tremendous advances in grammar.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Parallel Universes

Originally posted by vikaTae:
Originally posted by CaptMilkshake:

Scientists have come up with the theory of Parallel Universes.

My guess is you’re taliking about Many Worlds which is a set of theories (based on roughly the same data) for the more esoteric functions of quantum mechanics. It provides no data for the existence of multiple realities. It admits they could be possible if the additional data theoried is found. That’s about the extent of it, relative to your claim.

/thread

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Jews Are Bombing Gaza

it doesn’t surprise me at all that Bill Maher is in agreement with Conservatives. Dude’s a liberal in name only.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Jews Are Bombing Gaza

her post was imo the least offensive in a thread filled with explicit nazi references. if you found it offensive i have no interest in responding to your points because i would have no idea what would trigger you into a ballistic overreaction. ‘not grounded in reality’ isn’t an answer. I could as easily say the whitewashed, statistically distorted history of Israel you trotted out a few pages ago wasn’t ‘grounded in reality’, but it’s a meaningless statement unless I direct you to Stots’ post that refuted it.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is Religion Outdated?

So you admit what you’re doing is pedantic bullshit? I believe Vika already covered the “alternative” Theory of Repelling as opposed to Gravity.

(…)

This crappy way of thinking “can” justify anything and everything. Unicorns? Check. Fairies? Check. As long as there’s no proof for the existence of them, they are a valid alternative.


Do you not see how stupid that is?

Called it.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / should countries known for frequent human rights abuses be banned from international events like the olympics?

As beauval points out, few countries have spotless records. instead of banning countries from outright participating, what about simply prohibiting countries with ongoing human rights abuses from the chance of hosting the olympics?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is Religion Outdated?

this is the inevitable problem of trying to argue with someone stuffed full of rhetoric. rhetoric is just a tool, but it’s easy to fall into the habit of substituting it for knowledge…you’ll never get him to admit he’s wrong, and if the last few pages are any indication, he’ll add nothing fruitful to the debate.

You may tell me, that there’s still small chance religion might be re-created, it still doesn’t imply that it will.

yes and there’s a ‘small chance’ unicorns exist. good luck finding one.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is Religion Outdated?

people who live in glass houses should shut the fuck up. if you’ve been raised catholic but don’t know that they’re christians, or don’t know the difference between affect and effect, you really shouldn’t mock idiots who deny evolution [i do know the difference so i can]

pending a surprising answer from beauval’s question i’ll take this post as yet another example that most online anti-theists are teenage brats rebelling against their parents’ religion.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Should anti-vax people be banned from traveling and having children?

Congratulations karma, i’ve finally found someone with a more incomprehensible writing style than you.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Should anti-vax people be banned from traveling and having children?

Force kids to be vax’d? Okay, w/e. I don’t care, but why the hell ban having children. That’s just stupid.
Cut the arm, cuz finger is infected. That’s argument ‘A’, which I instantly called invalid.

see, that’s not using logic. that’s pretending to use logic to puff up your argument. as vika pointed out, ethics are subjective ie. value-claims. if you were actually using logic properly there would be no question of agree or disagree, merely correct or incorrect.

don’t use words you don’t understand, let alone methodologies.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Jews Are Bombing Gaza

On an unrelated note, is anyone down with me making another thread? With the intentions of cutting off any potential infections by lingering trolls.

Do it.

but first:

Originally posted by sanii:

The way I see it, Israel is a organized, modern nation capable of ending the circle of violence if only it worked to build up Palestinian infrastructure instead of bombing it. It is immature of Israeli leadership to expect short-term solutions like bombing/ quick invasions will be effective in preventing future Isreali casualties. These incidents only increase support among Palestinians for violent groups rebelling against what they view as a tyrannical force.

I think the long term solutions are necessary. While I have no idea what they could be, I would imagine them having something to do with the building of infrastructure within Palestine, the creation of some semblance of a functional economy. This would decrease support for terrorist organisations and make whatever military actions against them much more effective [less new recruits, more trouble finding sympathisers an hence less funding, less missiles fired].

one useful thing i noticed about this thread was mme bunneh’s brief comments and the response they got. so:

Originally posted by MmeBunneh:


At the end of the day I believe co-existing with each other without violence is going to have to be the only solution with a split Israeli/Palestinian state that both recognizes each other. There cannot just be one, it is impossible. How do I propose this?

  • Education: Remove the stigmatism that exists and stereotypes that both sides are taught to believe in one another
  • Creating safe spaces: Have neutral zones created that allows Jews and Arabs to participate in community activities safely without fear of attacks or having to defend themselves
  • Schools: Have children attend schools with each other and yes, there will be conflict and yes, there will be violence, but integrating small groups of each side into new schools slowly and allowing them to participate in activities that have them working together is key

and tuna’s response. why is he so angry? well, apart from some crazy vendetta he has with subjective historical narratives, it’s that lots of people who comment on the conflict propose rather idealistic solutions that never work. when i was still in academia the number one ‘solution’ for pretty much any world issue was always ‘education’. i suppose the thinking was that ‘hey, we’re all educated and we turned out ok!’

the problem with that – and this is how it segues into your point, sanii, is that education, let alone infrastructure development, is rarely a cure for abiding resentment and envy. what we really mean is a kind of propaganda, to replace one narrative [the palestinian] with another [Zionist]. oh, except Zionism is an exclusivist ideology – you have to be jewish [or if christian zionist, an idiot] to ‘get’ it. Also both sides are well-armed. To put it another way, it’s like SD’s Israel, with its own culture [pompous snob], and OT’s…the OT, with its own culture [OMGWTF], and the two sides rarely mix, and it doesn’t end well when they do. Now imagine that situation with rockets and air strikes.

as it happens, netanyahu released a new plan for palestine not long after the bombings started: No 2-state solution, israel will govern the west bank/gaza forever, settlement expansion will continue. presumably there’s a place in there to build up a functional economy, but any palestinian control over their own businesses would be by sufferance of Israel…which won’t help in cutting away resentment /envy.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Should anti-vax people be banned from traveling and having children?

Originally posted by yeasy:

No.
Your question is in form ‘Should A & B’, A & B = logical statement C
Logical statement C consist of A, which states they should be banned from having children.

It’s limitation of the most basic human freedom/function.
Therefore, I won’t care about anyone’s argumentation.
Such banishment is simply inhuman and it’s not thing for debate.


I don’t have to refer to B, as invalidity of A already implies invalidity of C.

but you haven’t shown logical invalidity for either of the premisses. you trotted out the vocabulary – and then resorted to a value claim.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Womyn: noble effourt or heroic cause

aheh, yes. very amusing.

Now gtf out of my thread already.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Jews Are Bombing Gaza

I read the whole thing, including this little gem:

Originally posted by Rolby:

where is hitler when u need him?

Send it back to OT where it belongs.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / good news!

Originally posted by karmakoolkid:

LOL….he shares; I share; and then, YOU just have to share a little of your own unique brand of rude shit.
Oh, what a wonderful world it is.
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Originally posted by Jantonaitis:

i’m currently using an online keyboard because i fucked up the actual one. although it has word suggest it is still much slower and clumsier than i usually type. i also seem to be having lag issues now, maybe from using it too much. but here’s the thing. i can still press ENTER and make new paragraphs.


like so.


now you try!


Making NEW paragraphs?
As opposed to making OLD ones?
LOL@U

At least I am on topic.
Did ya EVER think he just might be doing the best he can w/ what God gave him?
Likely not, too busy thinking about self?
Too busy whining about your petty keyboard “deficiencies”?
WHY?
How is that actually germane to your bitch about HIS writing capabilities?
And, you wonder why I’m not interested in having YOU able to post on my profile.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

you were calling him rude, and being rude yourself. it’s called hypocrisy and you do it ALL THE TIME. not hyperbole.

what i think about an off-topic thread post? which you’re using to attack me right before you whine about ‘at least you’re on topic’. yeah, that is AGAIN an example of hypocrisy.

what i think is actually read that thread and notice the dude does in fact make line breaks, just not in the actual textwall. i wonder if you’re defending him because you see something in common with his shitty ‘style’. nobody wants to read shit. you can express your special snowflake status by other means [like being an oblivious hypocrite].

lastly i don’t care about you or your profile, or any of the other garbage you dredge up from years ago. you remind me of my grandma. everytime i visit her she starts ranting about arguments she had with people 40 years ago. it’s hateful and moreover pathetic – i guarantee you those people don’t constantly refer back to old feuds they had with her. i don’t focus on bullshit from years ago. i focus on the bullshit you’re doing now. if you stopped doing it, i wouldn’t rip into you, and in threads where you don’t i ignore you. unfortunately you act like a flaming bag of poo in most threads, so it’s rare.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / good news!

yes, because your gratuitous mockery in the face of his non-aggressive beliefs wasn’t rude at all.