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Topic: Realm Grinder / Archwizard hopefuls

Originally posted by Keslen:

Okay, here I go!

I’m at R45 with 2e30 gems and I’m using this build:

Race: Goblin
Bloodline: Druid
S: 30, 50, 105, 400, 500
C: 105, 250, 305, 340, 400
D: 150, 200, 250, 290 | 560
E: 30, 135, 145, 225, 250 | 590
A: 105, 120, 270, 305, 400
W: 135, 205, 250, 290, 400 | 25, 520

I managed to get 5,959 Goblin Banks before affiliating with Drow, so my S50 is awarding 11 Tax Collections. I’m running now with Blood Frenzy, Combo Strike and Tax Collection on autocast in that order with no contingency.

Starting Stats (after about 15 minutes of setup before Drow):
20,376 Mana, 4,500 MPS, 1.9e5 Spells Cast, 2.1e12 FC Gained, 958 Assistants

After 1 hour:
20,405 Mana, 4,764 MPS, 1.2e6 Spells Cast, 1.9e13 FC Gained, 1,007 Assistants

After 9.5 hours:
20,621 Mana, 6,007 MPS, 1.4e7 Spells Cast, 4.8e14 FC Gained, 1,378 Assistants

After 16 hours:
20,809 Mana, 6,818 MPS, 2.6e7 Spells Cast, 1.2e15 FC Gained, 1,658 Assistants

After 1 day, 2 hours (with a browser crash resulting in 5 hours offline overnight):
21,563 Mana, 7,628 MPS, 3.5e7 Spells Cast, 1.9e15 FC Gained, 1,850 Assistants

After 1 day, 9.5 hours:
22,519 Mana, 8,756 MPS, 5.2e7 Spells Cast, 3.8e15 FC Gained, 2,168 Assistants

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / What R are you on?

I’m currently on R45. I could reincarnate into R46 if I wanted, but I’m doing Archwizard first. I have plans to stop any time in the foreseeable future.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / REALM GRINDER OVERHAUL NEWS

Much, much gratitude for the Build Template Savers. That’s going to make Abdications so much more convenient!

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Archwizard hopefuls

Originally posted by Keslen:

Okay, here I go!

I’m at R45 with 2e30 gems and I’m using this build:

Race: Goblin
Bloodline: Druid
S: 30, 50, 105, 400, 500
C: 105, 250, 305, 340, 400
D: 150, 200, 250, 290 | 560
E: 30, 135, 145, 225, 250 | 590
A: 105, 120, 270, 305, 400
W: 135, 205, 250, 290, 400 | 25, 520

I managed to get 5,959 Goblin Banks before affiliating with Drow, so my S50 is awarding 11 Tax Collections. I’m running now with Blood Frenzy, Combo Strike and Tax Collection on autocast in that order with no contingency.

Starting Stats (after about 15 minutes of setup before Drow):
20,376 Mana, 4,500 MPS, 1.9e5 Spells Cast, 2.1e12 FC Gained, 958 Assistants

After 1 hour:
20,405 Mana, 4,764 MPS, 1.2e6 Spells Cast, 1.9e13 FC Gained, 1,007 Assistants

After 9.5 hours:
20,621 Mana, 6,007 MPS, 1.4e7 Spells Cast, 4.8e14 FC Gained, 1,378 Assistants

After 16 hours:
20,809 Mana, 6,818 MPS, 2.6e7 Spells Cast, 1.2e15 FC Gained, 1,658 Assistants

After 1 day, 2 hours (with a browser crash resulting in 5 hours offline overnight):
21,563 Mana, 7,628 MPS, 3.5e7 Spells Cast, 1.9e15 FC Gained, 1,850 Assistants

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Help whit challenges

I’m not tired of noob questions. I’ll never be tired of noob questions. I respect every noob question because it’s their first foray into the forum world and that’s a very big deal.

All that I ask of that noob is that they come at their question with something. Especially considering how inexperienced I know them to be, that something doesn’t have to be much, but it does have to be something.

The original poster in this thread did not do that – they came at their question with nothing. I answered them in kind, hoping that they would be able to grow enough to come back at their question with something. They didn’t. From there, stuff beyond my control happened.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Archwizard hopefuls

Originally posted by Keslen:

Okay, here I go!

I’m at R45 with 2e30 gems and I’m using this build:

Race: Goblin
Bloodline: Druid
S: 30, 50, 105, 400, 500
C: 105, 250, 305, 340, 400
D: 150, 200, 250, 290 | 560
E: 30, 135, 145, 225, 250 | 590
A: 105, 120, 270, 305, 400
W: 135, 205, 250, 290, 400 | 25, 520

I managed to get 5,959 Goblin Banks before affiliating with Drow, so my S50 is awarding 11 Tax Collections. I’m running now with Blood Frenzy, Combo Strike and Tax Collection on autocast in that order with no contingency.

Starting Stats (after about 15 minutes of setup before Drow):
20,376 Mana, 4,500 MPS, 1.9e5 Spells Cast, 2.1e12 FC Gained, 958 Assistants

After 1 hour:
20,405 Mana, 4,764 MPS, 1.2e6 Spells Cast, 1.9e13 FC Gained, 1,007 Assistants

After 9.5 hours:
20,621 Mana, 6,007 MPS, 1.4e7 Spells Cast, 4.8e14 FC Gained, 1,378 Assistants

After 16 hours:
20,809 Mana, 6,818 MPS, 2.6e7 Spells Cast, 1.2e15 FC Gained, 1,658 Assistants

 
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Topic: Midas' Gold Plus / Restricting access to advertisements is not okay.

Originally posted by EdHunter:
[snip]

You’ve given me food for thought here and I value that a lot. I’m not currently in a state where I can form a reply (too much alcohol), but I wanted you to know that I’ve read your post, seen it as valuable and that I’ll offer a thought out reply to it when I have one available.

 
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Topic: Midas' Gold Plus / Restricting access to advertisements is not okay.

I don’t have much to say here. Almost all of that was rephrasing stuff I’ve said before trying to make it look like I meant something else.

However, it is total bullpoop that “Bob’s Ad Agency” gets nothing when I see their ad and wind up choosing to buy the product it’s about. If the ad is effective, the company selling the product will notice the increase in sales after Bob’s ad hits the web and that will indicate that Bob did a good job and will be worth giving more money to in the near future.

And yes, of course the number of views an ad gets on a website correlates directly with how popular that website is. That’s my whole dang point. Websites that are more popular are more valuable to advertise on and should inherently be paid more for it. How often an ad is clicked on is dependent on so many absurd factors that it’s not worth going into – suffice it to say that almost all of them are the responsibility of the creator of the ad and almost none of them (with the notable exception of the number of times it gets viewed) are the responsibility of the hosting website.

That the ad creator pays host websites exclusively based on how often their ad is clicked effectively ties the income of the host website to the ability of the ad creator to do their job. That’s not okay.


EDIT: Okay, apparently I did have much to say. I just didn’t have anything to say about most of what you said.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Archwizard hopefuls

Okay, here I go!

I’m at R45 with 2e30 gems and I’m using this build:

Race: Goblin
Bloodline: Druid
S: 30, 50, 105, 400, 500
C: 105, 250, 305, 340, 400
D: 150, 200, 250, 290 | 560
E: 30, 135, 145, 225, 250 | 590
A: 105, 120, 270, 305, 400
W: 135, 205, 250, 290, 400 | 25, 520

I managed to get 5,959 Goblin Banks before affiliating with Drow, so my S50 is awarding 11 Tax Collections. I’m running now with Blood Frenzy, Combo Strike and Tax Collection on autocast in that order with no contingency.

Starting Stats (after about 15 minutes of setup before Drow):
20,376 Mana, 4,500 MPS, 1.9e5 Spells Cast, 2.1e12 FC Gained, 958 Assistants

After 1 hour:
20,405 Mana, 4,764 MPS, 1.2e6 Spells Cast, 1.9e13 FC Gained, 1,007 Assistants

 
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Topic: Midas' Gold Plus / Restricting access to advertisements is not okay.

Originally posted by grndmaster20:
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You make a lot of good points and most of them were ones I hadn’t considered before. You still haven’t convinced me out of my main point (that an ad view starting with “I want to get X so please show me an ad now” is extremely more valuable than one staring with “I’m trying to do X and you’re blocking me from doing so until this ad is over”), but you have (as you saw) caused me to adjust it slightly.

Originally posted by grndmaster20:
As you’ve already said, you generate ZERO for the ad company because you won’t even click the ad even if you like the product.

If the ad company wanted something from me for my ad view, they should be paying the ad host for that view. This is especially true because the ad host has absolutely zero control over how many clicks an ad gets but some control (via increased traffic through better content) over how many views it gets. That ad companies pay ad hosts based on the click instead of based on the view is not okay.

They don’t get ZERO from me, though – they get my purchase price for their product (assuming, of course, it turns out to actually be worth buying).

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / List of Optimized Research Builds

Originally posted by knitbone:

Ah, that’s what I was missing – the Demonline bonus is applied to gems. I see now why A200 is better.

That said, I’ve also since noticed that my A545 is larger than A200, but that will vary on a person-to-person basis.

Thanks again for the explaination, very much appreciated!

You’re very welcome – I’m glad to have been able to help!

But, about A545, it depends on rubies acquired. Currently, the only reliable and repeatable source of them is spending real world money. I’m not willing to construct an ideal in-game build that requires out-of-game action to optimize.

I really hope that Realm Grinder someday soon allows players to earn rubies in-game in a manner similar to how Midas Touch allows players to earn red gems with blue stones (red gems are that game’s version of rubies, blue stones behave very similarly to how eggs did during the Easter event). Then (and only then) will researches like A545 become viable options for an optimized build.

Now, before I’m called on the obvious exception: C340 remains optimal (at least over enough time) even if you only have a single ruby. Despite the failings in offering a steady stream of rubies to a strictly in-game player, it’s very reasonable to expect that player to have earned at least one through excavations.

All that being said, if you’ve spent enough on rubies to elevate A545 over A200, you’d be a fool not to make that substitution (and I’ve verified to my satisfaction that it would be A200 to replace rather than any other). It’s just that including that possibility in a basic list of optimized builds is not a thing I’m willing to do.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / List of Optimized Research Builds

Originally posted by why_amihere:

I think it’s time for Keslen to go to bed!

Right message, just tired-looking maths – actually a 6.35% increase to production (1.06x increase).

Sleep is for the weak!!

You’re not wrong, though – I’m switching from a day job to a night job, so my sleep’s been more than a little out of whack recently.


EDIT: I fixed it. Thanks for pointing out the error, why_amihere.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / List of Optimized Research Builds

Originally posted by knitbone:

Right, but the A200 bonus is so small… I’m 2 days into a goblin/druidline build and A200 is +25.9%.

For comparison, I bought A250 instead, and my gem bonus is 22099% per gem. So my gem bonus would have to have been 17552% per gem (or less) before buying A250 to be equal (or better) at this stage. That break even point would get smaller the longer the run goes on, but I’ll have to check next time what it looks like before adding A250 – I can’t imagine it was that high though, considering how few gem bonuses I’ve added through research.

I’m almost 4 days into a Goblin run at R45 right now. My A200 is a 33% bonus to clicks and my A250 is an increase of 103% to my gem bonus. Also relevant, my Demon Bloodline is offering an increase of 1620% to my gem bonus.

Given all that, A200 is (effectively) a flat 33% bonus to my production. Meanwhile, A250 would increase my gem bonus production from 1620% to (1620+103)% = 1723% which would equate to a (1723/1620) = 1.0636x increase in production, effectively a 6.36% bonus to production.

It’s not that the A250 bonus isn’t large enough, just that it’s so small compared to what Demon Bloodline offers you.


EDIT: I just noticed that you mentioned using the Druid Bloodline instead of the Demon Bloodline. Given that, the math would be a lot more complex and you would probably be right. That being said, your overall production will increase much more if you switch from Druid Bloodline to Demon Bloodline and select A200 instead of A250, especially as your time spent as Goblins ticks up as Abdications take longer and longer to be productive.

 
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Topic: Midas' Gold Plus / Restricting access to advertisements is not okay.

Originally posted by Fernace:

The argument is then: aren’t you showing me the same ad multiple times anyways? The answer is yes, but it probably isn’t intended to be that way. If I give you a pool of 10 ads that fit your population (e.g. online gamers) and each time you click a button a random ad is chosen, then you are likely to see the same ad multiple times in a row. It is even more likely to see the same ad multiple times if you count in factors such as region (some ads are not available in all regions) or poor programming where some ads just don’t work.

I wanted to emphasize this because it’s come closer to addressing my main point than anything else in this thread. It still doesn’t quite get there, though.

1. Advertisers will show me the same ad over and over again indefinitely when I’m trying to do something. For example: recently I loaded a YouTube video and had to wait through a 30 second ad. Almost immediately after the ad finished something went wrong and I had to reload the page. I had to wait through the same 30 second ad again. I know that’s an anecdotal point to make, but it’s a representative example of my experience on the internet as well as other experiences I’ve had shared with me.

2. A viewer who consciously requests that an ad be shown to them will inherently be a much, much more valuable set of eyeballs when compared to a viewer who just wants to get the ad over with so they can get to their other content.

3. Given the previous two points, it’s impossible not to conclude that the behaviour described in point 1 should be applied either to both groups described in point 2, neither or to the former and not the latter. Instead, we find ourselves in the only version of that scenario that doesn’t make sense – they’re showing more ads to the less valuable audience and less ads to the more valuable audience.

Ultimately, this whole problem would be solved if more advertisers realized that this form of internet advertising is a thing and got their ads into the pool – I suspect that’s how it will go in the future. I just chuckled at the notion of there being more than 24 hours worth of ad time available to watch in a single day, but that seems likely to me in the future.

As for the rest of your post: I do have a lot of respect for the developers of Midas Gold for their treatment of those red gems and to what degree they can be earned purely through in-game content – I think they’ve done it right. The decision to block advertisements is separate, in my mind, to that concept since advertisements are not in-game content.

I never thought of the idea of maintaining game balance when acquiring red gems through means outside the game (which would include paying money or watching ads). It’s inherently impossible to balance a game around a currency that can, theoretically, enter in arbitrarily large amounts in arbitrarily short times (which is exactly what being able to pay for them means).

I also accept it as true that it may not be the developer’s who are ultimately responsible for the block (even though I suspect that it’s the case). However, my arguments pertain simply to the fact that the block exists – where it comes from doesn’t really matter. I may have, in haste, previously implied I thought otherwise. If so, please accept my apologies and this correction.


EDIT: You make some good points, Ameliaa. The environment of the internet is significantly different than TV/Billboards/etc. when it comes to advertising. It becomes possible to glean a lot more specific information about how many times your ad has been viewed/clicked by who. However, that becomes comparing apples to oranges.

Someone who says “I’m going to sit down and watch some ads on TV” would be much more valuable to the advertiser than someone who says “I’m going to sit down and watch a TV show and suffer through the ads in the middle”. And similar within each individual medium.

My point is the difference in value between those two groups: those who want to view the ad and those who are only doing so because they must in order to get to something else. Both groups (theoretically, at least) exist for all forms of media.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Help whit challenges

Originally posted by HuthayfahA:

He asked a simple question, so give a simple answer like I did. I referred him to the page. He has to do the work, but helpful advice was given, not mockery.

I think that this thread would have been a better link to provide than the one you did. The original poster clearly had absolutely no idea what (s)he was talking about, so a link to discussion around it would have been much more beneficial than a straight up answer. The fact that that thread was (and still is) on the second page of this forum when the question was asked was further testament to the lack of energy put into its construction.

Also, if you still doubt my willingness or ability to provide more detailed answers, I’d recommend you check out my participation in this thread. Notice, especially, how much effort that original poster put into answering their own question before posting to the forum.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / 5000 Evil / Neutral buildings builds

Originally posted by bowserbabe:

Any builds for post Ascension?

The build required to get 5k buildings isn’t going to change between pre and post ascension. However, after you ascend, it will be impossible to get until you reach R45. I’m just finishing up R45 now and I’m noticing my building/excavation counts are starting to match the values I was seeing pre-ascension.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / 5000 Evil / Neutral buildings builds

Originally posted by HiroshiShiba:

Thank you, all – and especially Kelsen!

It is unbelievable how bad my builds were compared to this one…

You’re very welcome. I’m glad I could help. Mercenaries can be difficult to work with until you have more experience with them (did you ever play with them while they were end game?). The only reason I remembered that build was because I selected those upgrades over and over so many times it basically became muscle memory (that was the most powerful short term build for a while).

P.S. Have you seen this thread yet? I think you’d find it extremely useful.

P.P.S. It seems you weren’t quite grateful enough to me that you could spell my name correctly. :P (Dang Kelso from That 70’s Show always stealing my thunder – or maybe it’s Dr. Kelso from Scrubs…)

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / New Demon Bloodline

Originally posted by Kraide:

Probably don’t use the “I need to practice my conversation techniques more” in response to a post by Kraide. There are people who would burn you at the stake for conversing like him. He’s been called many things, mostly negative, and master conversationalist isn’t one of them. Perhaps the opposite of one of them.

I think that’s the first time I’ve ever seen you use the word “I” on these forums. Granted, it was within a quote, so it doesn’t *really* count, but it’s still an interesting sight.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / List of Optimized Research Builds

Originally posted by knitbone:

In the goblin, demonline build in the first post, wouldn’t A250 be better than A200 in all but the longest of runs?

A250 offers production bonus from gems while A200 offers clicking reward. You’re going to find that Demon Bloodline increases production bonus from gems by a lot (it will reach thousands of percentage points), so increasing it a little more with research means a lot less than increasing clicking reward.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Help whit challenges

Brand new users who have just finally worked up the nerve to ask their very first question on the forum are going to have a lot lower tolerance for mockery than a seasoned veteran.

Yes, that particular question had an extremely easy answer, but it wasn’t a stupid question since the original poster didn’t know the answer. I think that the only stupid question is one you already know the answer to.

You never know how much people can learn over time. People who can’t ask proper questions grow into informative and productive members of communities all the time. Heck, when you get right down to it we all start out unable to ask proper questions since we’re unable to speak beyond “goo goo ga ga”. Learning and growing offer huge potential into the future and I don’t like to see that potential quashed by excessive mockery.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / 5000 Evil / Neutral buildings builds

Originally posted by HiroshiShiba:

All right, first of all thanks for the heads-up.

I am now attempting the Neutral trophies, with dismal results at R39 – so I’m obviously bungling something.
I did try various Merc builds using the Dwarf upgrades suggested, but I’m stuck around 4100 buildings. So I hit the forums and I found the frequent suggestion of using a slightly modified Zen Strike build.

Cool.

Pity that no Zen Strike recipe seems to exist anywhere (I could only find the modifications, as in “do it but change this with that”… useless, unfortunately). I am now in my second day of attempts and going quite mad, as this is the last thing left to do before ascending… anyone wishing to help with a ELI5 approach?

Race: Neutral Mercenaries
Bloodline: Goblin (it was Fairy instead of Goblin in the original)
Spells: Diamond Pickaxe, Fairy Chanting
Tier 1: Fairy1, Titan3, Druid1, Dwarf2 (it was Dwarf3 instead of Dwarf2 in the original)
Tier 2: Fairy1, Titan3, Faceless1, Druid1
Tier 3: Fairy3, Titan3, Druid3, Dwarf1

Run that for a bit and you should sail past 5k of each building in a few minutes if your option to ascend is available.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Help whit challenges

Originally posted by Nilloe:

Gotta say I have to agree with Keslen’s method here.

If you can’t ask a proper question don’t expect a proper answer.

Although of course the proper way of action would have been to give an even less useful answer and to keep trolling the OP. A good example of this would be the following thread:
http://www.kongregate.com/forums/8945-realm-grinder/topics/617482-best-merc-or-research-build-to-get-of-reinc-32?page=1#posts-10322570

I don’t like the approach in that thread, though.

It’s one thing to give correct information that’s useless. It’s another thing entirely to give incorrect information. I see the latter as turning away potential future community members more than anything else. Some of those folks might have been valuable contributors someday after they learned the basics.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Help whit challenges

That’s exactly what I did.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / New Demon Bloodline

Do you think that’d be a good idea?


EDIT: Of course it would…

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / New Demon Bloodline

It happens to me sometimes. I get an idea in my head and it doesn’t seem to ever shake loose. It takes a certain way of explaining it to knock it out and apparently Kraide hit it.