Topic: Serious Discussion /
Should we just rid this world of religion?
aphrodite09: Do you think the world would be a better place if religion existed or not?
Yes it would. Historic evidence shows that religion is the primary source for wars, global conflicts and political instability. Today westernized society has become more secular and more peaceful, although this is a correlation.
charredmonkeys: Could be, but as many people that religion kills, it helps a similar amount.
They do help more these days; however it is more likely because they feel they can buy their way into heaven rather than biological altruism.
kirdaiht: What is going to prevent people from organizing with other people who share the same views in live? After all, that is what a religion is, An organized group of people who share the same philosophy about life, the universe and everything.
Actually it is not their views. These views are copied from friends and family from a very young age {for the majority}. The rest suffer from low self esteem and blame god instead of themselves for mistakes.
Umberphoenix: I don’t think religion really helps the world, but it’s inevitable, since anything could be called a religion. Boy Scouts could be considered a religion, even.
Wrong. Religion is about illogical superstitions about things that cannot be proven. Boy Scouts is an organization based on practical activities and self promotion.
Flypurpleham…: Religion is a way to explain stuff and kill people.
It is the main cog in most historic wars. Religion is a form of government control for inferior countries with power hungry dictatorial leaders.
RowanE: Yes, religion is a problem. But it keeps stupid and/or dangerous people happy and contained. Can you think of something else that does that?
Truth and honesty. Let’s make people smart and safe instead of giving them an ideology – that would benefit the future.
zamininc: Should we just rid this world of anti- religion?
Progress should be subtle and non violent. It’s about encouraging people to stop listening to others and view the world from their own perspective, based on experiences, with increasing confidence.
aphrodite09: Religion has its share of power. Time and again we have seen its influence over politics, but even without going that deep, I’ve seen it “get in the way” of everyday life. Gay activities are still considered sinful. If someone commits suicide, he’s going to hell regardless of what good he has accomplished (if that someone happened to be a loved one, this thought is quite tormenting). Don’t views like these divide people?
The problem is that religion is dogmatic and unchangeable. It cannot adapt to any environment for environments always change, and change is usually an exciting thing.
Vanguarde2010: There is no way to remove religion from the planet at this time.
We have to respect people’s views. I’m not going to overtly say to somebody that their beliefs are wrong. It’s about inspiring them to evolve into something much greater through a natural process of positive interaction.
klausss: Yes,but we are not ready yet.I think we need to unite humanity under one banner first.
Those two sentences are very contradicting. Religion creates multiple banners – removing religion would help unite into one banner {if one banner is a positive thing}.
karmakoolkid: The definition of religion is not easy to find. There are many interpretations of what defines a religion but not one that can be said to be the most accurate.
You know that whoever came up with that definition has some sort of perspective regarding religion and therefore the definition is invalid.
Ferretferret: Religion brings peace and happiness to the minds of many.
Should we rid the world of such?
It is easy to suspect that deep down inside people know that it could all be a lie. They will have to live with a great dark fear that they might not go to heaven, and are in fact wasting their lives. This would be a natural part of their cognitive process.
And no they haven’t brought peace and happiness. Religion “has” caused more deaths over human history then helped lives.
vikaTae: As our knowledge of the universe increases, the stranglehold of religion amongst the educated decreases. In addition as we find ways to help the population achieve happiness without the crutch of religion, I feel that the dependency on religion rather than science to explain things, will also fade.
Science promotes firm probabilities about things that the senses can confirm. The senses cannot confirm god so therefore it cannot confirm probabilities of effects.
Ferretferret: I do not fear my god.
I find peace and comfort in his existence. I have seen both sides, and decided that this is a much happier existence.
In believing that there is something for me after this life, I find joy in this life.
It is complete superstition. You have no evidence.
I could hope and believe that tomorrow I will wake up to find that I have won the lottery, or that my dad has died. I am not going to be in joy or in sadness now for future events.
NeilSenna: So, would I want to get rid of religion? Absolutely not. Yes, it causes some extremely significant problems, but it also plays a part for ‘good’ which is too often overlooked. Yes, people kill in the name of religion, fight in the name of religion, and some might say waste their entire lives on religion. But I can’t help but think that if it wasn’t religion, it’d be something else. And that something else might have a much greater negative impact on the world, and a lesser positive one.
A well stated argument. However this good that is often overlooked, it isn’t charity, it’s people trying to buy their way into heaven, and if we don’t think about the simple nature of human beings {greed} than we won’t understand the motives that drive religious people.
karmakoolkid: Okay…. I JUST GOTTA KNOW exactly what this “fear of god” thing is.
Set yourself on fire and imagine what that would feel like for an eternity.
Vanguarde2010 I suggest we develop a toxin to poison all religious people. Put it in the holy water, etc.
Very unsettling suggestion. We can’t kill people we don’t like.
mzkyroze: i guess what i mean to say is…arn`t we supposed to be free?..and are supposed to be able to practice or not practice..any religion we want?,,right? Since religion has been around for a long long time..we might as well say..should we rid the world of free speech..or the right to have children..ect…just useing those for examples..and it is true that religion is used at time as some peoples excuse to kill or to judge others..and many more reasons..but also insanity is used as an excuse..and also..crimes of passion ,,,and so on..and maybe the world would be a better place without it but we should always have the right to choose…and not pressure others into trying to get along without it….or with it..
Thank you for commenting.
Free speech is rudimentary, free expression allows individual developmental. You can feel whatever you want to feel, believe whatever you want to believe in and I would feel happy in involving myself with your beliefs. However the purist of perfection has no room for religion.
ReverendKen: Getting rid of religions would be a great start to world harmony. The problem is there are a lot of weak minded people that need religion as a crutch and something new would be started.
These individuals who are weak minded need to be made strong through gentle hearts and strong personalities.
Darkruler2005: Getting rid of religion won’t get rid of your problem with religion. Try to get rid of the actual root of a problem before implementing any changes. If your problem is with weak-minded people, then try to, as was stated, educate them.
We can’t say to people that is it wrong. We cannot educate people into believing something new. We merely expose them to all the bliss that life has to offer. Bring their experience of life to new levels so they understand that god gave them a life to enjoy, not to serve.
Eddie1996: The most annoying thing about religion is when people come to your door and try and make you convert to their religion.
People that do that are terrified of god and need the most help.
vikaTae: It’s not really about getting rid of religion, it’s about getting rid of the necessity for religion. You’re removing the crutch and encouraging people to stand on their own two (or four or whatever) feet with all decisions they make
We need to raise their self esteem and make them feel stronger and biologically superior.
Pink_Fuzzy_B…: This is my conclusion: Yes, religion is unnecessary and sometimes antagonistic. I do, however, believe in God.
Is that belief or superstition? What senses did you use when you found the evidence necessary for that belief?
I believe in probabilities. If there are no probabilities then it is not something that should provoke any concern.
There is no probability that god exists… there is no probability that god does not exist…. therefore if you cannot formulate a probability you cannot truly belief in it – that is biologically impossible.