Recent posts by himhim2340 on Kongregate

Topic: The Arts / WANTED: kongregates musicians

I’ve been wanting to start up something like this, or a pass-the-project thing.. Glad to see someone beat me to it.
OP (and others) knows my link/account, but for the rest: https://soundcloud.com/himhim2340
I can’t nominate any of my tracks at this moment, but by the “due date” I’ll have decided..
EDIT: After checking out the other artists around here I can’t say my music really competes.. (wow you guys are good..)
If the music is a collab of only kongregations is that ok?
Also, can anyone explain this “kongregate presence”?

Topic: The Arts / Best music studios out there for windows

FL Studio is the most common.. I quite like it and many tutorials exist for beginners. (Different versions offer different features, Fruity or above will do well) Ableton Live is also well known supposedly more powerful but more complicated. Propellerhead Reason I know almost nothing about, it’s also a decent premium DAW. (Digital Audio Workstation.. the proper term) Renoise is a tracker style DAW.. A few from the collabs really liked it. (I started off with a tracker instead of a sequencer/piano roll, so I quite liked it.) Steinberg Cubase is supposedly the Mother-of-all DAW’s.. (complicated as hell.. at least for me..) I’ve also heard Avid Pro Tools is pretty decent.. Cakewalk SONAR supposedly too.. If you’re a Mac kinda guy there’s Logic Pro.. I’ve heard it’s one of the best, but Mac only..

There are free alternatives if you prefer to go that way.. ModPlug/Open MPT (whatever it’s called anymore) is a free tracker that supports samples/vst’s.. MadTracker is another free tracker.. (quite outdated but still usable)
The best free studio would have to be LMMS. (Linux Multi Media Studio – Also made for Windows/Mac) It’s GUI is fairly similar to FL’s. It’s hard to get the hang of at first, but once you understand it you’re golden. (Kongregate also promotes Reaper as a free one, though, it’s more like WinRAR free..)
I have experience with FL, (I actually own it..) Renoise (demo), ModPlug (rather high CPU usage), Cubase (well, not really “experience”, I own an older version.. never really understood it.. or gave it a serious attempt.), LMMS, and Reaper (briefly).

Links:
Ableton Live
Reason
Renoise
Cubase
Avid ProTools
SONAR
Logic
Modplug
MadTracker
Reaper
LMMS

Topic: The Arts / help needed with my music (vst's etc)

I’d be willing to give it a whirl.. I can’t say my library is as impressive as the other guys, but I’ve been getting better with synths. I run FL so the .flp file would work for me..
My stuff: www.soundcloud.com/himhim2340
I’m not a great producer but I find it enjoyable.. I’m personally a fan of fairly abrasive synths over smoother ones.. but I’ll be able to send you what I’ve done for you to preview or request changes. (If you send us both the file you’ll most likely get more versions to choose from.. that way you have different styles on your track…)
Send a PM either here or soundcloud and I’ll have you email me the file. I also don’t really care about the money.. giving credit is nice but not necessary since all I’d be doing is changing the sounds..

Topic: The Arts / Malevolant33's music attempts.

Originally posted by 997847:

Unless you’re looking to make money in music you really shouldn’t worry about pleasing anyone but yourself.

That’s probably the most relevant statement.. Where do you learn about synths though? I thought it was either use defaults or experiment for a few hours…

Topic: The Arts / Malevolant33's music attempts.

well.. I can say, as a complete noob at this stuff myself, whatever method works is the one to use.
I started out creating beats and jamming to them. The beats were always relevant to multiples of 4..(kick, clap, kick, double clap. repeat) so my first melodies were also based around 4.
Uploading things before they’re done is really hard to avoid. 90% of the time I upload a track after a single session… Only really having established a melody, beat, and bassline. It’s perfectly fine if you want to upload things that aren’t finished. I tend to do that all the time and never actually go back and change what I thought of later.
I have almost no theory knowledge.. (I can (slowly) read sheet music, and I understand the notes on a keyboard..) I could be terribly wrong in saying this, but creating a bassline or progression is generally the (proper) first step..
Its quite easy to build off a bassline and keep changing things up. If you’ve been jamming for a while and come up with an impressive riff, be sure to create it in an ideas project that you can stuff full of melodies that currently wont fit anywhere.
Assuming you have some synth knowledge and know the layout/workings of your program the order that you come up with things in doesn’t really matter..
(I didn’t have time to look this over, it might sound really jumbled..)

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

sigh, they no longer exist. I doubt they’ll be returning any time soon..

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

Thats a pretty nifty idea there.. I’m quite glad the collabs haven’t vanished yet. Glad people still want them around too..

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

Originally posted by Maxiboy2000:

Man, I remember checking the art section for new artwork everyday. This was one of my favorite parts of kongregate

That was me, only for the sounds section.

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

Originally posted by I_love_you_lots:

Kongregate is still a great place; much better than Newgrounds IMO.

indeed, now newgrounds has/will have a 1-up on us though..

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

Goodbye collabs! Was great to have a place to upload my tracks, to have them noticed and helpful feedback given.. It’s really sad to see them go.. I’m still not sure why exactly they aren’t being left as an archive or upgraded to compete with newgrounds.. atleast they were enjoyed for as long as they existed.. It still kinda bugs me that all the wonderful work created by users will just vanish.. I really enjoyed some of the tracks.. and a fair few aren’t available for download..

Topic: The Arts / My last kongregate song

Originally posted by Nemiflora:

That’s really good. <3 :D
If I may ask, what did you use to create it?

I believe he uses FL, though other probable possibilities are renoise, ableton, or perhaps even logic. though FL studio is most likely.

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

I still don’t see this as a good thing… now NG has a 1-up on us.. But like buggerd said, even though it never turned out right, it really did seem to complement Kong.. I realize too that “angryfacing the admins” and such won’t bring back our collabs.. but still.. I don’t want to see them go.

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

If the admins rethink their decision.. would they let us know? or would we all be in suspense until that last day..

Topic: The Arts / My last song for Kongregate

Just be sure to remember to come back if the collabs DOES manage to get revived be sure to come on back!

Topic: The Arts / My last kongregate song

Marvelous creation there. I really enjoyed it. The percussion was interesting, and the synths fit in quite well over/after the orchestral part.

If the collabs don’t die, please be sure to perhaps maybe sometime possibly upload another track here?

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

Originally posted by AngelsDontKill11:

tldr? Summary: collabs isn’t as good as it used to be but it could be. We probably can’t sway the decision now but there is the opinion nonetheless

One of the all time best has spoken.. the collabs are loved by many.. I think that those staff members should do something to the section.. other than removing it..

Topic: The Arts / The last song I intend on sharing with kongregate...

thanks.

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

I don’t see how hosting the collabs would add a huge expense.. expanding the storage space would be costly, and maintaining it I get… (if there were frequent updates, which there aren’t really) The drop in overall site activity after the collabs is removed might be even worse for business.. then again they really didn’t say anything about the moneys, just the “not-so-awesomeness” of the collabs..

Topic: The Arts / The last song I intend on sharing with kongregate...

I wanted to make it to 50 tracks.. I stopped at 49 and didn’t upload some tracks that I had finished so this next one could be my 50th.. I want to share this last one too..
Top Notch
(I think its my best track to date..)

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

Originally posted by adv0catus:

It must be too expensive to keep the data. As in, the ads served against the archived data doesn’t pay for the bandwidth needed to display it.

I don’t see how it will affect anything.. if it gets the same traffic and costs the same to keep expanding.. why would leaving it as it is would be too expensive..?

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

Originally posted by foolsguinea:

I haven’t looked at Collabs in a long, long while, but today I was going to check on it. I’m glad I did before it was scrubbed.

Exactly why I think even keeping them around as an archive is a grand idea..

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

that makes so much sense.. People love the collabs.. the few that visit LOVE the collabs.. more visitors would mean more lovers of them no?

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

Originally posted by adv0catus:

That’s exactly what Kongregate is about, social gaming. Don’t you remember all those changes at the beginning of the summer?

umm.. err.. no.. I can’t recall anything.. Only changes I know of are the chat system (new games/popular games get separate chat) and the fixing of the browsing recent/all time after it was broke from updating the player page to browse artists work.. (no longer newest/top rated) I’m not sure if those are the changes your thinking of.. I only really came here for the last year to chat and check (comment/upload/rate) collabs..
One more thing, has anyone else mentioned the few exclusive to kong artitsts we have? I know of a certain few that upload only to kongregate and nowhere else.. and I don’t exactly want to lose track of those people who come here once in a long while just to share a track..

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

Originally posted by adv0catus:

I think the point is that it’d be a significant investment of resources to give the Collabs the overhaul it needs to be functional again. As well, it’s use and intended use differ greatly. Plus, it doesn’t really fit in to what Kongregate wants to be, which is social gaming.

It’s like ArmorGames launching a Q&A section with the intention of using it for game-related stuff and it being used to help people buy the best vehicle suited for them. The intention is there and it’s nice, but it doesn’t fit with what ArmorGames is.

but kong isnt as much about social gaming as it is social anything-under-the-sun-that’s-kinda-entertaining.. kong has so many non-games for anyone and everyone to enjoy, the flash apps and unity things are still quite popular even though they aren’t actually games. The collabs were a convenient way to informally share our non game projects without needing to throw them into our own flash projects and upload into the games section of the site.

Topic: Kongregate / Changes to the Collabs section

Originally posted by rawismojo:

We could drive traffic to the section, either by promotion on the homepage or a contest or whatnot, but that wouldn’t fix the underlying issues that the section is suffering from. No amount of traffic or exposure will fix those issues.

I was involved with the section as a curator from its inception and was legitimately excited about the section when it launched because it was a really awesome idea and filled a niche that wasn’t neatly filled at the time. The goal wasn’t just to have some kind of art or music portfolio tied to your Kong account, but create a community where artists and devs can meet up and create games or whatnot together. We were able to get a lot of people, both artists and normal users looking at art, to the section initially and we got a ton of great work uploaded there. However, it’s apparent now that discovery, which is probably the most important thing that the section would need to do well in order to be successful, is choppy and does not scale well. You have the top-rated art and sounds of all time, but those rarely change (if ever) and are usually dominated by the same 2 or 3 artists. You can scroll through the list of art sorted by rating, but it’s all just a hodgepodge. If you’re looking for a pixel sprite artist, you might have to go through 10 pages before finding one artist, and even then they might not actually want to collaborate. If you’re looking for some music for your game, it’s incredibly difficult to find a song that fits the mood of your game and loops. So what the current system does is highlight the same small handful of artists indefinitely, regardless of whether they are interested in collaborating or even if their art would work well in a game, and makes it difficult for someone to discover an artist who is talented and willing to collaborate, which was the initial goal of the section.

Well, I believe the easiest way to solve this problem is doing something about the search bar/method, not the collabs. There was a tags section when uploading, they seemed like a brilliant idea, but they actually had no use, I could type some very relevant things as tags, and see no difference when searching. Infact, I’ve noticed that unless a sound has a 4+ rating its hard to search for it at all.. Search “Full Circle” (a track by sabrage, high rating, farily recent.) You get, “Kongregate Sound: Full Circle (For Bonnie) by Sabrage” as the second result. Not bad, I can easily tell what that is, and I didn’t even type the name exactly, mind you I have no idea what he tagged it as.. Search “Bunch-O-Ideas” (a track by myself 3.14 rating submitted around the same time) You get “Kongregate Sound: Browse Music” as a top result with “Bunch-O-Ideas” in bold. I typed this exactly as it appears but the link directs you to newest tracks page on which you will have to search (the page) for the specific track you wanted, even after you searched (the site) for it.. I think a better search method and perhaps inclusion of tags would INSTANTLY improve how effective searching/discovering.. Even as a sloppily designed portfolio, its still a grand archive of music/art that many people of the community don’t want to see abandoned and removed..