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Topic: Pool Live Pro / How To Play 9 Ball

The goal in 9 Ball is to be the first to pocket the 9 ball.

It is the only striped ball on the board.

There are some strict requirements in 9 Ball. You must always contact the lowest ball on the board first. The balls are numbered 1—8 (solids) and the 9 (stripe).

On the first shot (the break) the cue must contact the 1-ball first. If ANY ball is pocketed thereafter, that player’s turn continues. The player’s next shot is then the lowest ball on the board.

Typically players will pocket the 1-ball, then the 2-ball, and so on. This would mean that a player making 9 consecutive shots would win the game.

The better way to win is to search for combinations involving the object ball, (i.e., the lowest ball on the table), with the 9-ball. This results in an immediate victory.

It’s possible, and even common, to win on the break.

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Topic: Pool Live Pro / How To Play Snooker

Also, when your opponent fouls by sinking a non-object ball and you are given the opportunity to “Nominate Ball,” it means that you can select any ball on the field for your next shot and score the appropriate points. This shots is treated the same as a red-ball shot, so your following object ball would be whatever was next.

For example, your opponent fouls and it’s your shot. You choose to nominate the black 7-ball. You pocket the 7 for seven points. Your next shot would be on the numbered ball of your choosing. Play continues normally after this.

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Topic: Pool Live Pro / [Suggestion] Have a suggestion? This is the place.

I think it would be nice to see if bumper contact was going to occur on cue-ball shots that are buried deep in a pocket. It’s something that in real billiards is easy to discern.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / A Self-Modifiable Neuroprosthetic for Depression

Immortal, I’ve been asking in what ways nervous-system implants are unethical. Can you address that? (And “dangerous” in what ways?)

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Topic: Serious Discussion / A Self-Modifiable Neuroprosthetic for Depression


• Brain-assisting hardware (and software) to make soldiers more perceptive.
• Hardware to improve fine motor skills during delicate procedures, like surgery.
• Hardware that activates in “flight or fight” situations to prevent post traumatic stress.
• Hardware that calms the nerves in emergency situations, e.g., firefighters, first-responders, policemen.
• Hardware that reduces the thoughts that lead to deadly accidents, e.g., mistaken identity, misinterpreted stimulus, etc.
• Hardware to assist in the “organic” management of diseases like Parkinsons, epilepsy, etc.

The risk of “being deliberately controlled” by some external force is certainly something to consider, but it doesn’t really add up to the weight of the potential benefits. I can see lots of great opportunity in something like this.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / A Self-Modifiable Neuroprosthetic for Depression

Mike, why would you think that organic “unassisted” learning—whether it’s to fly a helicopter or perform brain surgery—would be better than “assisted” learning with some kind of hardware?

When you talk about the risks involved with someone hacking your brain, it’s the same risk we face from someone hacking our air-traffic control, or our traffic lights, or our electronic medical devices.

We are thoroughly reliant on computer-assisted knowledge and guidance for our safety, comfort, and entertainment. Why would a brain implant cross the line into the sinister?

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Topic: Serious Discussion / A Self-Modifiable Neuroprosthetic for Depression

All those fears are certainly manifested in our current environment. We are bombarded with messages all day long about who we should be and how we should think. There are lots of people talking about this… from culture jammers to academic scholars. It’s not exactly an “unvoiced concern.”

The difference with mood-altering hardware is that it resembles those science fiction dystopias where cyborgs rule over “organic” man. (Spoiler: In the end, organic man prevails.)

But, IoD, consider these scenarios:
• Would you take a drug that made you smarter or better able to focus? (“Ritalin”)
• Would you use hardware to make you smarter? (“A book.”)
• Would you change your environment to evoke a particular mood? (“Dim the lights.”)
• Would you engage in an activity simply because it altered your mood? (“Play on the beach.”)

You see? We already hack our moods… sometimes intentionally, and sometimes others do it to us with and without our consent.

I’m basically just trying to frame an argument for this wonder-device. I don’t know that I would feel comfortable getting such an implant.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / A Self-Modifiable Neuroprosthetic for Depression

Can’t keep up with all the technical jargon about the practicalities of the procedure and the inherent (physical) health risks, but I think the concept is sound.

I do not have a problem with having an implant that gives my arms beyond-normal strength, or my legs inhuman speed. Similarly, I don’t object to having an implant that provides me with exceptional intellectual power, or the ability to retain information greater than the unassisted mind.

There’s an interesting cultural threshold when we talk about altering moods, however. The visceral discomfort with the idea of our fundamental moods being manipulated “artificially” introduces a degree of technological influence that our society doesn’t seem quite ready for.

Yet… we “medicate” our moods by doing things we enjoy and avoiding unpleasant experiences. As individuals we seek to control our moods and admire those people that are not controlled BY their moods, (but vice versa). So why the resistance to technological assistance? What is the “moral boundary” that’s being crossed exactly?

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Individuality - What makes you so special?

Originally posted by stanwise:

what about people whose mental illness is severe enough that they are clearly in distress and their life may even be in danger, but who don’t want any form of treatment? Especially if it’s an illness that might impair their ability to make this decision, such as schizophrenia?

There are some very frightening aspects of treating the mentally ill against their will. It certainly conjures visions of dystopian future. We presume that life is sacred and inherently valuable, but it’s not. We are all participating in a continuum of life and death, adding to a continuous narrative, passing along information and adding our parts to the grand story of humanity. Spoiler alert: We all die.

The parts that Van Gogh (and other creative geniuses that took their own lives) contributed much more “value” to the story of humanity through their artwork than they might have had they not been mentally ill. Their individual lives, like yours and mine, are ours to squander as we like, or use as we like, but their inherent value is NOT in the fact that our brains are functioning in a way that is most aligned with today’s definition of health.

But I don’t feel strongly about it. I do think it’s interesting.

I also think it’s interesting, Stanwise, that you said that you wrote in order to achieve some mental stability. Yet, when you were feeling more healthy, you quit writing. Wouldn’t this then trigger a new bout of depression?

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Topic: The Arts / National Novel Writing Month

I’m only at 8,000 words and still don’t know what I’m writing about. It’s like a story about a time-travelling botanist that also happens to kill people. It’s really preposterous but I just hope to write maybe one or two good ideas a day… though each one is surrounded by a dozen paragraphs of absolute crap. You gotta write the crap to get to the good stuff… you can’t JUST write the good stuff.

Write it all down, even if it doesn’t make sense, and sort it out later. It’s about huge piles of words.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why does Politics created?

Ironman, it doesn’t sound like you’ve earned any right to the privileges you enjoy. Funny how intolerant you are of others’ sense of entitlement.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why does Politics created?

Google translate in action:

Why do we have politics and what purpose does it serve?

Zergatik politika behar dugu , eta zertarako du balio ?

Basque back to English:
Why do we need a policy , and what it does ?

Perfect translation!

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Individuality - What makes you so special?

A significant portion of masterworks provide perspective on the pathos of humanity. It requires a sensitive and sometimes perverse, at least by social standards, to capture it.

I’m not confident that these individuals are clinically depressed. In cases where they were, there’s kind of an interesting “imminent domain” issue… through their works they provide a great benefit to humanity. What worth is their individual happiness in the scale of that?


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Topic: Serious Discussion / Individuality - What makes you so special?

Makes sense. Provided, of course, that it weren’t mandated. Some people may choose to use their angst to fuel creative works even at the risk of clinical depression.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Factory Farms

I eat small children but they’re usually only the dumb ones. Is that better?

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Triggers

TriggerHappyDitchpig… member since about 8 minutes ago.

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Topic: The Arts / Post Whatever You Are Working On!

Porcelain paint? Crazy. Never played with that stuff. Looks cool!

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Individuality - What makes you so special?

Interesting sideboard:

• Would you prefer that the creative people listed above, (Plath, Thompson, van Gogh, et al), had been medicated at the risk of not having created the works that they did?

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Individuality - What makes you so special?

I would agree with Stanwise. We have lots of incredible masterpieces created by people in the depths of deep depression. Tortured souls—from Sylvia Plath, Hunter S Thompson, van Gogh, Rembrandt, Frida Kahlo, Mark Rothko, Abbie Hoffman— these weren’t healthy, balanced individuals. They all created and then they took their own lives. That, to me, is the most profound declaration of depression. They were often sociopathic and deeply introverted, displaced and disenfranchised. And yet, from these dark places, they created masterworks.

So, that has value to me.

HOWEVER: Not all depressed people are creative geniuses, and not all creative geniuses are depressed. This is a very important qualifier.

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Topic: The Arts / Post Whatever You Are Working On!

Can you explain it a little bit, Nick? Looks like some kind of enamel on a copper plate or something. I like the Misfits skull much better than the Pokemon character (or whatever it is), especially with the skateboarding backdrop. (I see a little Ed Templeton / Toy Machine dude poking out there that you pulled from a Thrasher sticker sheet.)

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Individuality - What makes you so special?

That’s a very interesting diversion, stanwise.

I’m not entirely sure that I agree, though I’m not sure that I immediately disagree either.

If depression is linked to creativity and can be treated with medication, then it stands to reason the creativity could be reduced by medication.

Therefore, it would be conceivably possible for creativity to be increased by medication at the potential risk of simultaneously increasing depression through the use of psychoactive drugs.

A creativity pill. (May cause suicide.)

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is body modification a form of self-harm?

Pat, I think you could consider tattoos as being somewhere along a spectrum of body modification that, on one extreme, you have things that few sane people would consider healthy. On the other you have strict uniformity.

There is a lot so social value to uniformity. If everyone drives on the agree-upon side of the road, we can all get where we need to go safely. If we have to drive around people that want to ornament the road with their own personal road signs, it would lead to confusion and waste… not good for society.

Shirts, in order to be useful, must have a certain degree of uniformity. However, the pattern and style that is featured beyond that is entirely up to each individual. I think there’s some wisdom in this analogy.

When you move the “centerpoint” too far in one direction, you end up with a crazy shirt that you can’t wear. In the other direction you end up with a closet full of identical white shirts.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is body modification a form of self-harm?

Originally posted by Darkscanner:
I would not (support a body modification) if the change was irreversible, since the changes would not be practical, which as I stated earlier is a key factor in the mortality of the situation.

Tattoos aren’t practical nor irreversible (not easily anyway) yet they seem socially acceptable, by and large.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Individuality - What makes you so special?

There are a lot of definitions here that are troublesome. It’s a difficult question to ask, and there are really two distinct parts of the question:

1. Why is individualism a valuable attribute?
2. Why is personal worth a valuable attribute?

The two variables can exist independently. One can be highly individualistic with little person worth and vice versa.

Then there are the words that should be defined in some kind of context. I’m big on context. An inexpensive grocery store has value, but if they only take Mexican Pesos and are in Toronto, Canada… well… the context subverts its value.

What is a “valuable attribute?”
The ability to knock someone out is a valuable attribute to a boxer but not so valuable for society as a whole.
I infer that valuable attribute means that it is a skill or characteristic that benefits the greatest number of people.
Of course, many characteristics that are good for society are not necessarily good for the individual… such as the person that will act foolishly based on elegant philosophical ideals.

What is “personal worth?”
Personal worth certainly could be wealth, or it could be a measure of a person’s self-esteem or even their public esteem… social respect. It’s easiest to assume that personal worth is the respect or admiration of the most people. However, there are lots of shitty athletes that receive more “public respect” than people that quietly volunteer hours a week for charitable causes.

What is “individualism?”
People, and particularly Americans, really love the idea that each of us is entirely unique. This notion doesn’t provide any value in itself. We enjoy the sense that there is nobody else exactly like us, but it’s not particularly useful or practical. There are no trees that are exactly alike either but we don’t treat them with the same respect for “individualism” that we do for ourselves. As a matter of fact, everything in the cosmos is unique… and we are all the same in that sense. There is nothing unique about being unique.

So, I don’t think there’s any value in a person’s inherent individualism. They didn’t earn it and even if they did, so what?

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Topic: Pool Live Pro / How To Play Pool 8

Pool 8 (aka, “8-Ball”) is the billiards game that most people are familiar with.

The game starts with 15 balls racked on the table with the black 8-ball in the middle. There are 7 solid-colored balls (1-7) and 7 striped-colored balls (9-15).

Each player is attempting to be the first to pocket all of their balls—either “solids” or "stripes"—then pot (or pocket) the 8-ball before the other player. The first player to legally pot the 8-ball wins.

Players take turns trying to pocket balls. If they miss or foul, their turn ends.


Hitting your opponent’s ball first, (e.g., hitting a striped ball first when you are solids), is a foul.

Pocketing your opponent’s ball before yours is a foul. (Their ball goes into a pocket before yours.)

Missing all balls is a foul.

Scratching, (i.e., pocketing the cue ball), is a foul.

Accidentally pocketing the 8-ball before it is a legal shot results in an immediate loss! Don’t do this!

Any foul results in ball-in-hand for your opponent, so don’t foul! Ball-in-hand means that the active player may place the cue ball ANYWHERE on the table. This is very advantageous.


The principle strategy in 8-ball is “leaving” the cue ball well-positioned for your next open shot. If this is done well, the player can string together a series of successful shots and essentially clear the table. It is common to have a skilled player pot all 7 of their balls then the 8-ball in one turn.

If you simply don’t have a shot, your best option is to have the cue ball make contact with one of your balls and come to a stop somewhere on the table that makes your opponent’s next shot difficult.

Players are not required to declare which ball or pocket they are aiming for, so many players (when faced with an unlikely shot) simply smash the balls at full strength hoping that one of their balls will find a pocket. Although this sometimes happens, (known as a “slop” in barroom pool), it is not a viable strategy. Not only might you pocket your opponent’s ball (foul), you could pocket the 8-ball (loss!). Learn how to control the cue ball!

Bank shots are difficult but combination shots are surprisingly easy. Keep your eyes open for combos when you have no clear shots.


The higher-ante tables offer new rules. The 250-chip table has no additional rules.

The 1000-chip table requires players to define which pocket they are intending to shoot the 8-ball into (pocket declaration) on their turn (when the 8-ball is their legal object ball, near the end of the game). They may choose a new pocket if they miss their first attempt and are lucky enough to get a second chance at it.

The 2500-chip table uses Blitz, meaning that the amount of time a player is provided to take their shot is lessened. This is not a great rule and doesn’t add must interest to the gameplay. It simply means you must take less time to line-up your shot.

At player level 10, the highest ante table becomes available. This table requires pocket declaration and features no aim-assist laser. (I haven’t played on this table yet but maybe someone can describe if and how that works.)