Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Kicked out of yankee stadium
Phoenix_Red: If he doesn’t respect God and America he should be ejected. IMO.
Wow, I hope you don’t work for an airline company.
I pray that you do not involve yourself with educating our future generations.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Osama
Do you believe everything the government says, gereffi?
Then you must believe that the American involvement in the Vietnam War was justified, eh?
I guess if I were to answer your question, I’d say I don’t believe in a lot of things that your government says. If not believing the government means I hate America, then I guess your love for America is defined by your blind loyalty to a flag, which holds no ideal to you, and to the government in control.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Questions about Christianity
Phoenix00017, its not really a contradiction. God does things for a reason, but He leaves room for people to decide for themselves.
I am not understanding the example with the baseball stuff, so I won’t touch that.
I am going to use another example to explain.
Imagine if you were going to a party. There’s some drinking happening.
It can be said that the chance to meet these people you are partying with was in God’s plan.
However, whether you will drink at all, or whether you will drink and drive will be a choice that you make, therefore there is some free will.
If you happened to have an accident, then the extent of your injury can be seen as determined by something divine, since there are some accidents where the casualty suffers minor injuries in the biggest wrecks. If you lost an arm, then maybe God wants you to reflect on your own choices, and possibly decide (with your own free will) that you will advocate for not drinking and driving. Maybe God wants you to learn to live a richer life, through an adverse situation. If you do not survive the accident, then you are recalled to Him, and you will become an example to others, such that they can learn from your mistakes.
I think that some of the Christians’ “making the best of what God gave us” attitude is amazing, and is a wonderful view on life. Instead of complaining or whining about the downs in life, they try to see it in a positive light.
Also, Pope is the liaison between God and the Church for Catholics. Other denominations of Christians do not follow the Pope, therefore, to them, Pope is just another priest.
Phoenix_Red, I am not sure what you’re outlining with Mark 8:14, especially if you attach no explanation. Mark 8:24 is “And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking. ” Anyone can cite Bible passages, do you even know what you are citing?
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Racial Genetic Advantages?
greg, there is always someone that doesn’t agree :p Your professor must not have been a math major.
I like Theo’s explanation. Saves me the typing. :D
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Off-topic /
Dear GOD what is this thing?!
Hahaha, a freaking fishing lure. That’s amazing.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Games /
Game you want added to Kongregate.
Looking at the front page, 2 of the 3 new games have something similar to this in their description: “Shoot his way through”
I think I can go for more games that are not as “shooting” oriented, or destructive. Puzzle games will tickle my fancy. Warbears and Anika’s Oddysey, or games of that genre, whatever it is.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Illusion of Time
greg: Einar, I would recommend thinking a little more deeply about mxmm’s post. You overestimate what you know, and you also overestimate what human beings are capable of knowing.
Wow, I think I can love you on that line alone, greg. I guess your role in this community gave you the chance to state something that I had wanted to say for a long time.
Now on topic. Imagine if there were a world within our computers. Our computers function at speeds of millionth of a second. If there was a world of sentient beings that lived inside our computers, they would function at similar speeds. Now to them, a second would be quite a long period of time, while a decade in our world would be near infinity to them. Their incapacity to understand this infinity does not mean that this infinity does not exist. Now Einar, to assume that infinity is something that cannot happen, is again similar to this hypothetical world that cannot understand what a decade is.
Einar: That’s not really possible. You couldn’t “live” in a snapshot; if there were no time, you wouldn’t be able to do anything. The mere fact that you can take actions kind of implies that we’re not living in a snapshot.
Have you ever thought about why he used quotation marks on “snapshot”? Have you ever thought about the possibility of the world being returned to completely indifferent to your existence at all after you die, as in your exact identity being used by another identity, making different choices than the ones you did? I think in the serious discussion section, you have to stop simply looking for arguments, and start to really think on your own.
Einar: Possible, but useless like most solipsism. As far as I know, there’s no useful results from these positions. Yeah, it might be true, but if it is we’ll never know.
“What we can’t possibly know:” “Of course, as always, I only went on this useless listing”
I guess reposting the original poster’s words would give you a good “no-sh*t sherlock”.
mxmm, I kind of want some explanation on “3. Whether or not time is a dimension that acts exactly as spatial dimensions” since I am not really clear on which properties you are referring to. There’s something interesting though, like the reversed entropy due to antimatter. However, the inability for us to effectively detect, much less harness such antimatter make this a dream indeed.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Bullying!
I became a bully after being bullied earlier on. My dad said to me, “if you can’t beat them, join them”, which was originally about other people making fun of my nose, but I took it out of context. I started off being a small bully, but with more people who gave me crap for other things, I slowly became “tougher”, and moved up the bullying scale. This is not justification for bullying, but simply how it happened. I am pretty sure what I was after was not “a huge ego boost”, but that’s my own reasoning and not applicable to all bullies.
Outside of when I am in the moment of bullying, I am generally a nice person. My morals guide my behaviour, even when I am bullying. I can tell you with certainty that some people are more fun/entertaining to bully, when compared to others. I did not “get all the girls in high school”, nor was I flipping burgers when I was 40. I think you’re relating bullies to the stereotypical “cool guys” in high school. The logic behind my actions were, “if someone gave me crap for who I am, what spares you from the same treatment?” I know that this is wrong, but the reasoning still lapses in and out of consciousness. My targets were people in school who had too much attitude and not enough muscle to back it up, and also people who enter small gangs that commit juvenile deliquent crimes. To me, it’s more like teaching them a lesson. It’s still bullying, but to me it didn’t matter, it had to be done.
billyfred: Or squirting lighter fluid on people who think smoking two cigarettes at the same time is fun!
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
"That's Gay"
Phoenix00017: For one example (and I’m sorry I don’t have my source any more for this…), about 30 years ago in the US, the average model weighed 7% less than the average woman. Now, it’s over 20% less.
That could be attributed to obesity rates going up. Average model weight might not have dropped as much as you tried to make it, since obesity has became a much more significant problem, more than 20% rise. Your examples with goth-goth, prep-prep attraction is contradicted by the famous “Good girls like bad boys”. True enough, cultural influences do make a difference, but initial attraction is largely based on biological causes, such as symmetry and bone structure and body type.
bobo82: ….however just take a look around at the boyfriends and girlfriends of your friends. Do you find each and every one of them beautiful?
That was just begging to be pegged. There’s the economics of dating that you fail to account for. Just because we all find a certain person beautiful, doesn’t mean he/she will date you. So what do we do? We settle for the best that we can get. Also, relationships get built up, instead of just relying on initial physical attraction. There are factors to be considered too, like charm. Beauty, as in physical attraction, is still largely biological. Beauty is biological, while other non-physical characteristics are not generally biological in nature.
I am waiting for your explanation on neural networks involved too.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Racial Genetic Advantages?
L33T3R: It’s nurture, not nature. The only genetic black people have is to stay out in the sun.
Nature gives capacity, Nurture governs ability with effectiveness or “ability” of capacity. Most sciences already agreed that nurture cannot be without nature, and vice versa. If you weren’t born with wings, I’d think that you would have a tough time flying on your own.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Don't Tread On Me: A Libertarian Thread
Yup, there are city/state laws that overrides whether the owner allows certain activities or not. While business owners can dictate who can or cannot enter their business, smoking is not allowed in a bar in California. Much like smoking indoors in Ontario, Canada (or is it across Canada?)
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Premonitions
Einar, I said: “I read in the paper that a train has crashed in <location>, at around the location where my dream ended.” <location> is to leave the location undisclosed, since you would not have known where it is if I told you. I also said the specific condition of clock running forward in premonitions, as opposed to normal dreams when it would run backwards. AACCEE, premonitions I have had are never affected by my choices, since nothing would be done with the knowledge.
As for extra-sensory perception… you know that almost all animals react to a full moon, right? Without seeing the moon, they act differently the whole day. I worked in an Animal Hospital before, I know that they can tell without actually seeing the moon. Not random day/night that they act weird, and we just noticed. It was a well-known occurrence, at least to our staff, that on a full moon, the animals are a little whacked.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
2008 China Olympics
Yeah Holly11, some athletes trained all 4 years, in the prime of their lives, and to have it curbed because of politics? That’s really a shame. They might never be in that top shape ever again. How many ‘4 years” does a person have in their prime? Not too many.
Rastiln, we share the same avatar! But I think mine is cooler :p
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
"That's Gay"
Hahaha, that’s right. Canada allowed same-sex marriage. :D
Hence the different approach to this topic, eh? Reflects the differences in socialization.
I do not see this problem in Canada. I go to one of the most gender-positive university in Canada, and possibly the world. And you are STILL being politically correct. I know a lot of homosexuals/bisexuals who are not offended by people using “gay” negatively. They have accepted that change will take time, and cannot be pushed upon people with “politically correct” measures, which could shift attitudes to a more negative tone, just less vocal. It is always better to change a person’s mind, instead of limiting their expression. ;) If in the person’s mind, gay is not derogatory, then they wouldn’t use it to describe something bad. If a person swears a whole lot, the issue at hand is not the swear words themselves, but the constant motivation behind using them.
If you keep pushing, you’ll get a negative effect, far worse than what you have now. You will see that I am not on a high horse, if you’d only stand up. I don’t need to debate this, because I have my view, and the way you presented your side made me more firm in my stance on the matter. What you do will set you back in your goals, not me.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Female Gamers
oddball2002: ...something about men dying to save a woman…
milskidasith: Chivalry is dead, oddball. Nobody beleives in the concept of giving up your life to save a female anymore, and for good reason….
I truly feel both of these statements are bullcrap. The foreigners dying in the conflicts in the middle east and in africa are not dying to save women. Arguably, the militia from those plays could be seen as dying to protect the freedom of their women. Chivalry is so much more than just “dying to save a girl”. There’s honour in not fighting an opponent who is much weaker than you. I would gladly sacrifice to save my sister, or any of my male or female friends (as long as they are worthy :p). I don’t think cliche is the reason that would stop someone who is willing to go as far as sacrificing oneself. Sometimes someone is helpless, not by choice. I’d agree with you on “respective gender might not want for themselves”.
Hehehe… gregorina… it does show your insecurity for stepping into the realm of “cross-dressing” character. :p Although I must say… I’ve never tried that before.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Communism
greg: I’d argue that small tribes (African, Native American, etc.) are probably the closest thing that the world has seen to true communism. The point here is that the society has to be SMALL.
I’d agree that you would be correct about the small tribes/bands being closest to true communism. I would say though, that the society does not have to be small. It’d have to be extremely interconnected, and socialised in a direction that runs contrary to 90% of all countries in the world. It is hard to imagine a whole nation of people being selfless, but I would attribute that to majority of people around the world being immersed in a world that is capitalist and so concerned about property. If there is a country which has already abolished the importance of individual property, and reflect a strong cohesion in the community and nation, that country will readily accept Communism. Sadly, there is no such country, so in order for communism to exist now, it can only happen to small communities, and cannot expand any further since majority of the world is already so concerned with possession.
greg: Depends on how you define government. Pure communism is either 0% government or 100% government, depending on how you view it.
I concur.
milskidasith: So to make a point, the ends can always justify the means, if the situation is extreme enough.
Erm… I disagree with the statement’s last part. I’d agree that the ends can justify the means, iff the scope of the end is the true end.
stevo1984: ...that is really what is necissary to create a communist society (for better or for worse). Its a messy job, and in all fairness its such a horrifying process that its never been carried to its completion…
You sir, only see one side of a mirror. There are always more than one way to achieve the same goal.
All in all, communism is an ideal, as long as capitalism and property and possession keeps dominating the world.
To 6turmovak below me:
I take it you have not read my post yet. :p I won’t reply under you, since it’d just spam the thread. Communism doesn’t work … yet, because capitalist ideals have infiltrated majority of the world. This can be reversed with resocialisation methods that can be paralleled to brainwashing, except to instill virtues and cohesion and pride of community instead of individual.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
What is Religion?
Einar: Please point to what, exactly, requires faith?
Tipthejester: Science still cannot explain everything with quantum mechanics.
Dude… finish reading before you make a reply. Otherwise you’ll just clutter the page answering your own questions.
Einar: Nothing that generates heat will ever happen again. It will be cold forever.
I am sure you know of the famous E=mc^2 equation. Mass-energy equivalence was ground breaking because it broke this exact understanding of entropy “ceiling”. Based on your perspective of entropy being uniform, all that generates heat will never happen again. With the mass-energy equivalence proof, it is shown that all matter that has mass, can be broken into energy. Extend this concept with antimatter, and you will know that there is no entropy “capacity”.
Phoenix00017: So, Einar – would you consider science to be a religion?
Einar: Nope, it doesn’t fit my definition.
Science cannot explain everything, and neither can religion. Science isn’t making an attempt at explaining Spontaneous Combustion in human cases, and some religions attempt to explain it as a demon being burned or something. Fact is, both science and religion require one to accept their respective basic concepts as truths, and then build on from there. This will lead me to the next part.
Einar: I don’t understand what your point is with this. I guess you’re trying to say, by example, that there are deeper truths than the ones science can reveal? That telling me of your God is like telling a fifth grader that trees take in oxygen?
My point is, there are things that one side cannot explain. For someone, who from the perspective of a side that cannot adequately explain the world, criticizes the other for failing to do the same, would be similar to a kettle calling the pot black. If there is no absolute truth on either side, then one must keep their mind open to both sides, instead of blocking everything out from one side like you just did. Since you show a definite appreciation for the science side, I used scientific theories to disprove you. If you happened to be a religious zealot who denounce all science, as you did with religion, I will use religious themes and doctrines to disprove you. My point is you cannot expect to prove science wrong with religious proofs alone, and you cannot prove religion wrong with scientific proofs alone.
Einar: If the fifth grader were a rational human being, he would look at the research and agree that trees do breathe oxygen in. If the fifth grader were a normal fifth grader, he would just say “whatever” and not really care.
Einar: Religion anthropomorphises the universe. God is, in essence, a human with lots of power; He gets mad at you, He forgives you, He does all this stuff that humans do. This has never made sense to me.
If you really looked into religion in general, instead of just what’s in front of you, like the fifth grader in my story, you’d find that religion is not aimed at explaining the universe. It is meant to direct human behaviours toward an ideal that benefit human societies in a whole. Because you take religion as face value, you were compared to the fifth grade who did so too.
Einar: Well yeah, that’s the point. This argument is meaningless in terms of religion, since you can’t extend it to say that there is God somewhere, just that there might be God somewhere. There also might be flying space ponies.
If you learned more about Quantum Mechanics, you’ll realise that you can only prove, at best, that there might be atoms somewhere at any given point in time.
Navarre has got it right about religion, at least in the first part. The fear of death part is a whole different thing. You have to understand, you’re missing out on religions that are not motivated by death, but in virtue.
2 people replying to a message by Eggy in less than 5 minutes. And I thought it was just a bad joke. I did not see any attempt at personal attack. Cool your guns, gentlemen. lmao, I read your response, eggy. Watch out, they might use spud cannon! Big spud explosions.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
"That's Gay"
Again, Phoenix, you need to learn to READ. I never used weak as an example. Old people do not generally admit being old is a negative thing, just as being young is not either. You hear some old people complain that they can’t do certain things because they are old, while I hear young people complain that they don’t get to do certain things because they are young. Again, YOU are the one putting the negative spin on things. I did not choose you ignore your argument, as time and time again, you keep on pressing your apparent ageism (prejudice against a certain age group). Many times I have seen some atheists use Christian in a negative tone, as in individuals who are gullible and/or ignorant. Even though I don’t consider myself a Christian, I will still step in on the side of them. Similarly, if I see someone using the term gay in a negative tone, I will step in if no one else is going to. Again, as mentioned before, your lack of experience in someone being offended by words such as lame and old does not mean that some people are not offended. I know of many disabled people who would not like to be called handicapped.
As for your point about the “you’re gay” “what a fag” scenario, if the person was actually homosexual, no offense would be taken. If the person was not homosexual, it’d merely be a wrong description. Personally, I’ve never seen such combo being used except by high school kids. To be honest, why don’t you just stand up to it when it happens? “What’s wrong with that?” All the gay people I know stand up for themselves, and I go to one of the most gender-friendly universities in the world. If you want people to change their attitude, you don’t rant about your negative experiences, because that won’t change a thing. Pity lasts only a short while. If you want people to change, you have to get through to people that being gay is not negative. How do you do that? If you are a genuine friendly person, your friends will step in when someone make a negative comment with the term “gay” or “homo”. Being politically correct about something like this will not change anything, neither will telling your own negative experiences.
If it’s time to make a change, you can’t keep waving a flag and expect to win the war just like that. Being politically correct? That’s too much bureaucracy. You want change, you start with yourself. If you think being a genuine great person will not bring credit to the cause you are rooting for, you are forgetting how “testimonial” technique of advertisement works. I’ve some gay and bisexual friends, but not many times have I seen them complain about it anymore. And because I know them, I’d gladly step up if someone uses those words with a negative connotation. Contrary to the point that was made when I entered this thread, that people who use gay as a derogatory term have disposition to hate homosexuals, I would not think so.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
"That's Gay"
Some people are born lame, Phoenix. And I don’t know what you are referring to for the weak part. If lame compared to gay, then weak would be compared to the oral/anal sex part.
Most old people would prefer to be younger, but that’s not the point. The point is whether the term “old”, the term “gay”, are being used in a negative way, correct? It’s not a matter of whether they choose to be, or whether they like being it. If you are to take a perspective that says gay has biological link to it, then you would agree that it would be part of your nature, and unchangeable. This is the same with being old and being lame. It does not matter whether they like it or not, it only matters how people are viewing it, am I correct?
To be completely honest, I have met a fair share of Europeans who genuinely think fag = cigarettes, Mastry. The point in question is whether there is a negative spin on the intention of the user, targeted to the ascribed group. While I understand your outrage on those who do have the intention to discriminate, it is not very truthful to say that all negative usage of gay would mean they are intent on displaying hate against the ascribed group.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Kongregate /
Kongai is perverted?
Nabb is going to get roasted, I can smell it.
If the gamer perceives the drawn cartoon as hot, is the artist the perverted one, or the gamer?
For example, someone finds Lion King strangely erotic… I’ll leave you to that food for thought.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Resident evil 5, is it racist?
lmfao, that’s good fodder.
I wonder who decides to spin these stories? I bet it’s captain Obvious from team global village.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
"That's Gay"
Phatcat, that’s because he wasn’t wrong. He was ranting and he deserved to have some venue to blow it off. And when he has released his frustration and anger, I guess he deserved a hug. Missing the point doesn’t necessarily mean he’s wrong, just that he has neglected the main point.
This is a hug followed immediately by a criticism, and additionally containing the phrase “I guess”
Guess your parents never said, “That was not the right thing to do, but I guess you’ll learn” while hugging you.
Because the use of “gay” is often coupled/interchanged with “fag” (or other references to oral/anal sex), which makes it pretty obvious. I’ve never seen the dialog “This is so lame!” “Yeah, it’s completely one-legged!” So no, I’m not seeing your point.
Watch this. Are you watching?
“That’s a lame comeback.” “Yeah dude, its so weak”
“That’s old” -> followed by reference of over-use
Mastry, rants of personal experience, while very emotional, you do not address the issue of whether people are using gay as a purposeful derogatory term against homosexuals explicitly. I didn’t miss your point, I just didn’t find it strengthens what you are advocating here. I still meant the hug though :) I don’t believe you should’ve been treated like that, but our disagreement is whether every individual who uses the term gay is actually displaying prejudice about homosexuals.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
What is Religion?
I thought of using something as drastic as that, but it would make my point more abstract, maybe harder to get the mind around, you know? :p
But if there were such a plant, I’d buy it every monday. And only green ones. Okay, orange ones can come too.
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Tipthejester
63 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
"That's Gay"
“no one intends to describe a person with a limp when they call something “lame””
Then how can you safely assume that people are intending to describe a homosexual person when they call something gay? As you’ have referred to before, you know that people use it in the context as stupid. Lame is used in the same context as weak, so would it be safe to consider lame excuse as derogatory to physically disabled? Are you seeing the point now? Lame people should be up in arms (no pun intended, but I couldn’t help appreciate my own wit) about the usage of lame in context of weakness. I am not saying one is being over sensitive, I am just saying “sometimes we use references that do not always direct hate against the ascribed group”. I did not flippantly blow off Mastry’s episode. Lame in the context of weakness is addressed above, and his 3rd point is completely irrelevant to me, since he addressed the individual by name, and he cited these individual experiences that are not relevant to his point.
And HEY. I GAVE A GENUINE HUG. AS GENUINE AS YOURS. Be nice! >:( Just because I am opposed to his point, does not mean I cannot respect his anger and frustration.
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Tipthejester
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Female Gamers
I would like to hand out big giant foam fingers to recent participants of this thread, imprinted on them would be “I helped poke the topic completely off track.”
On topic then… .... ... it’s a tough act to follow, having someone declare his different gendered played out online than in real life.
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I really got nothing.
Oh , Theo, your point on most men are less comfortable playing female characters than female playing with male characters is interesting. Truthfully, from the people I’ve met, I can say that this is very different. I’ve met more guys playing female characters on role playing games (which are NOT truly purely roleplaying in nature, like D&D roleplaying.) than girls playing male characters. I am not associated with the market or game creation aspect, but more of the gaming aspect. And yes, I am well-aware of those over-sexed art work designers that feel that a female warrior would have to wear less than a bikini in a frozen landscape. It’s kinda funny.
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