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Topic: Serious Discussion / The ideal military government?

Education is a core value to any society. Even in a highly militarized one, having an informed and well-brought up population means better standards of living, strong job placement and decreased accidental deaths.

In a society like this, educated by the military or by the book, everyone has smarts all the same, even though what they do with their knowledge interpersonally and on the career path may differ. This makes for a well-built social structure all around.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The ideal military government?

Income, as AGF asks, is generated from practically any source of revenue present. As established, the goverment is centered around a free man’s constitution, and the goverment itself present free market, secular and non-bureaucratic structuring. Any and all goods produced by vassal states, allies and individual corporations under prectection or support of the militarized government directly funds the central power, and virtually anything retrieved as a result of spoils or war reparations makes for funding as well.

Although funding itself lies at the heart of what the military is able to procure based on its presence and payments in by allied states, a main sector going in is what the non-enlisted people are able to introduce as part of the GDP.As stated before, not all educated people stay out of the military structure, and not all uneducated go in to serve. It’s a balance of who is able to fight and who is able to pay. Essentially, everyone is making money for the system. The able-bodied fight for theirs, and the non-militarized provide goods to pay for theirs.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What makes a Human Life Important?

You’re coming off as a nihilist. That shows that as you believe in nothing, and therefore, your opinion is as null as your belief in everything else.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What makes a Human Life Important?

Does the fact that we have alterance at the planetwide level not matter? Once we have the capacity to go amongst the stars, we could destroy or save any number of planets. As sentient life we affect the environments we exist in. To say intelligent life is worth nothing is shallow.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / Alternative Legal Systems

Murderers have an easy time tonight.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What makes a Human Life Important?

Life is gauged based on level of success, ability to suervive, the capacity to create. And yet here such words come, from the only creature sentient on our food chain.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The ideal military government?

Military service is a dedicated part of the society. Therefore, to maximize the amount of available draftees, it would be understood that social equality is part of the society. It only singles out those with the capacity (self-based, not class-based) or desire not to serve. Those with exemplary skill or those disabled would most likely be the only ones pardoned. Even then, they most liekly would still serve at some point, even as non-commisioned or non-enlisted sectoral components (R&D, medical staffing, government employees)

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Clean, renewable ENERGY

Wind and solar.

They can be used almost anywhere, and tey are relatively cheap to buy power from. aybe a bit too costly to start in some places, but a remarkably nce way to start off.

Geothermal is expensive as well, but is also considerably self-sustainant.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The ideal military government?

No one can say any one structure is secure, powerful or successful, as history repeatedly presents. Espeically important to note is that also, among prven and disproven forms of goverment, is that many forms not yet seen are highly theoretical, and that power and structure are too ideally the dreams of either the government or its people in question. However, as part of a philosophical finding, I thought of a structure worth thinking about.
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Nationalist police state(?)
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Social structure consists of the military exerting power and protection over the people at large, and everyone is required to serve as part of the military for a certain period of time, unless unfit to do so. The only way to explicitly avoid service is to have completed higher education in a field deemed critically beneficial to economic or social development. The economic structure is based on how federal funding, centric to said military GDP matches up to free enterprise GDP. Money is formed equally upon taxation, social services, government salary and armed forces R&D and funding. The govermnetal system is built around an elite of military authority, with a single person with high powers above others, though central voting procedures allow some petition to be established. Civilians and lower-raking officers hold democratic votes to gauge and recommend political standings, and with their votes also serving to elect high generals under the highest-appointed of them. (his/her service is rendered mute after 5 years of service, at which point they may be reappointed, should no one else be recommended under the highest rank)
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Frankly, it sounds like the Galactic Empire from an extrinsic standpoint, but what does everyone really think? Who would say it sucks? Who says it is possible? What else could be determined?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What should NATO's standard-issue pistol cartridge really be?

The Tokarev is a dirty little round if bought in bulk or found, though. The Soviets tended to mass-produce and do little quality checking, so Pakistani soldiers using the rounds might not be exactly happy with utilizing it, due to the commonality of misfires. It does have some nice kick, however, and many German soliders during World War II complained about Soviets hitting them harder in close-range engagements.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What should NATO's standard-issue pistol cartridge really be?

No one here is answerting the question – at all. I asked about pistol cartridges, and everyone’s talking about different manufacturers as opposed to staing the most useful round. Please stay on topic, as the discussion may fuel a future thesis for any writings I may begin.

Also, Softest, misjudging the brand name on a weapon does not indicate a lack of knowledge of firearms. I haven’t seen Glock products in a while.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What should NATO's standard-issue pistol cartridge really be?

That’s okay. I know the difference; most, if not all, of the 30s and the two 40s models are dubbed “Slimline” and have a thin profile with a frame build for conceal-carry. Anything else is an original-type frame.

On that note, I do hail to the Glock pistol design for its modularity and ease of use and repair, though I still swear by weapons such as the Springfield Armory’s line of semi-autos, as well as a number of Walther pieces. If the companies under Glock coincided with one of the former groups, maybe a new line of cost- and distribution-effective sidearm could be developed?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What should NATO's standard-issue pistol cartridge really be?

Originally posted by Wraymond:

I think NATO should use several different types. I’m glad this post is here being the gun expert I am. Anyways first of all they should use 50 cal bullets for every gun. And if not mabe invent the 60 cal. And also for a side arm they should use miniature launchers like grenade launchers

In your blatant attempt at a poorly aimed joke…

The invention of a “60” caliber round was considered at one point by NATO personnel for the .62 Mastadon. This would have been the single-largest shoulder-fired anti-materiel round ever to be mass-produced.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What should NATO's standard-issue pistol cartridge really be?

Originally posted by rwbstripes:

I personally thing that the 9mm round is effective. It can be modified in many different ways (Though, NATO doesn’t like to kill its bad guys and uses FMJ only) and packs a punch at ~50m away. Though, if I had to choose what I wanted, I’d say we should go back to our Glocks and hit the fields with the Glock 40. Whenever in the woods someone in my group is carrying a Glock 40 loaded with ballpoint ammo, and trust me that is efficient enough to drop a bear in its tracks at a damn good range.

I agree with Jhco, however, in that the .45 ACP is one of the most powerful short pistol cartridge you could use. The U.S. Army may have done away with using this round and the M1911, but the Marines swear by its unparalleled stopping power and it’s capacity to shatter armor. The 9×19 is a little more accurate, and can stay in the same ballpark in terms of stopping power, but I personally would prefer a stack of 8 .45s on my hip over 10 9mms any day.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Obesity apologist

Yet they still stay fat.

I’m just saying, don’t be overweight by choice, and most certainly don’t whine if you are fat to begin with. There are those who have genuine problems with wieght on an uncontrollable level, but so many people today use it as an excuse, that I fail to believe anyone overweight, genuine problem sufferers and lazybones alike.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why do the liberal Democrats want to take guns away from Americans?

But to start making jokes right away on the new threads is idiocy. It’s not making claims, it’s doing for fun. I honestly want something to talk about, not to crack jokes.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Uh-oh

So you still get to joke about it or blame the OP?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why do the liberal Democrats want to take guns away from Americans?

Originally posted by Jantonaitis:

Then burn all historical records of guns. Then mix the ashes together and shoot them into the sun with a rocket. Or dump them in the ocean, whatever’s easier.

Both of you don’t even argue. You (try to) make witty comments about a discussion’s subtext. It’s not even funny in the mildest sense…

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Uh-oh

Wow. That is just ridiculous…

How can you post that and make a joke about it?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What should NATO's standard-issue pistol cartridge really be?

So both of you are wasting time here. Stop posting to bump this. Respectfully, it is annoying to do it.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why do the liberal Democrats want to take guns away from Americans?

The stealing of guns. Left-wing people ignore the fact that a vast majority of criminals get guns by stealing them. Very rarely will they ever purchase weapons to kill or loot with.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What should NATO's standard-issue pistol cartridge really be?

Originally posted by 12_Hundred:

THIS IS FOR WEAPONS EXPERTS ONLY. Those without a strong sense of knowledge on firearms will easily get lost in this agrument, especially when numbers start flying. Do not post if you have no clue about firearms to avoid politically appearing silly.

Just saying.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Obesity apologist

I hate whoever came with up this old bull about it being a mental issue or a genetic strand or even a disability. Take any handful of obese individuals from America, and I doubt you will find a single one that has some outstanding issue from the fatness itself. People in a country with tons of freedom tend not to give three shits about issues such as being fat. It’s as simple as that.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What should NATO's standard-issue pistol cartridge really be?

In all seriousness, I would like to hear from gun users what they believe to be the best cartridge…

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why do the liberal Democrats want to take guns away from Americans?

Honestly, the liberal agenda has leads and reasons to believe that gun control reduces crimes, but a lot of evidence, specifically that which is gathered from criminal records and other details, show that gun control increases crime tyically, as opposed to stopping or reducing them.