Probably nowhere, since this thread was bumped from July. Probably nowhere, since this thread was bumped from July.

2009-11-07T21:41:57-08:00

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bleep bleep 1/10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF9Tu35-pBo bleep bleep 1/10 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF9Tu35-pBo">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF9Tu35-pBo</a>

2009-11-07T19:27:44-08:00

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2009-11-07T19:28:13-08:00

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bq. But if that suggests the numbers for Illinois may be artificially inflated, then consider the following, which could suggest an undercount: The totals do not reflect any school jobs saved or created in Chicago, the state's biggest district and the recipient of at least $293 million in stimulus funds. Chicago schools budget chief Christina Herzog said the district easily saved at least 1,200 jobs because of the stimulus, but didn't report them as such because of directives from the state board. State officials dispute that. So it seems more like 'data collection errors' than 'fudging the numbers'. And again, not Obama saying it. <blockquote> But if that suggests the numbers for Illinois may be artificially inflated, then consider the following, which could suggest an undercount: The totals do not reflect any school jobs saved or created in Chicago, the state’s biggest district and the recipient of at least $293 million in stimulus funds. Chicago schools budget chief Christina Herzog said the district easily saved at least 1,200 jobs because of the stimulus, but didn’t report them as such because of directives from the state board. State officials dispute that. </blockquote> So it seems more like ‘data collection errors’ than ‘fudging the numbers’. And again, not Obama saying it.

2009-11-07T16:30:14-08:00

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The B-2 can carry a maximum payload of 23,000kg, the Tsar Bomba weighed 27,000kg. The B-2 can carry a maximum payload of 23,000kg, the Tsar Bomba weighed 27,000kg.

2009-11-07T16:22:59-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/63101?page=9#posts-1439666'>pacaholic</a>:</cite> I question the legitimacy of an organization whose goal is “a web-based, not-for-profit, progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.” I also question the legitimacy of those who ignore the above as if that is perfectly normal.</blockquote> Rather than repeat myself too you can just scroll up and read my reply again. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/63101?page=9#posts-1439666">pacaholic</a>:</cite> I question the legitimacy of an organization whose goal is “a web-based, not-for-profit, progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.” I also question the legitimacy of those who ignore the above as if that is perfectly normal.</blockquote> Rather than repeat myself too you can just scroll up and read my reply again.

2009-11-07T16:18:37-08:00

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2009-11-07T16:19:55-08:00

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So it was the CEA who claimed the 30,000 figure, not Obama. And again, it was based on faulty reporting from the companies who reported their employment figures, not the government interpretation. So it was the CEA who claimed the 30,000 figure, not Obama. And again, it was based on faulty reporting from the companies who reported their employment figures, not the government interpretation.

2009-11-07T16:16:20-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/63101?page=8#posts-1439602'>pacaholic</a>:</cite> I question the legitamcy of an organization whose goal is “a web-based, not-for-profit, progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.” Why just conservative misinformation? Is liberal and conservative to much to handle? Im gonna start a group that monitors, analyzes, and corrects black people and homosexuals. If i did such, i am sure u would gladly throw ur ad-hominem smears my way.</blockquote> If you can actually find errors in the report rather than just assuming they're there because of the website that'd be terrific. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/63101?page=8#posts-1439602">pacaholic</a>:</cite> I question the legitamcy of an organization whose goal is “a web-based, not-for-profit, progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.” Why just conservative misinformation? Is liberal and conservative to much to handle? Im gonna start a group that monitors, analyzes, and corrects black people and homosexuals. If i did such, i am sure u would gladly throw ur ad-hominem smears my way.</blockquote> If you can actually find errors in the report rather than just assuming they’re there because of the website that’d be terrific.

2009-11-07T16:09:51-08:00

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2009-11-07T16:10:23-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/33708?page=25#posts-1439129'>pacaholic</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/33708?page=25#posts-1439114">SaintAjora</a>:</cite> Can heterosexuals become celibate? Yes. Now tell me why it happens so rarely and is often broken. Also, explain to me why they should have to stop it.</blockquote> Because the bible tells us not to have homosexual relations.</blockquote> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/33708?page=25#posts-1439129">pacaholic</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/33708?page=25#posts-1439114">SaintAjora</a>:</cite> Can heterosexuals become celibate? Yes. Now tell me why it happens so rarely and is often broken. Also, explain to me why they should have to stop it.</blockquote> Because the bible tells us not to have homosexual relations.</blockquote>

2009-11-07T16:07:45-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/63857?page=1#posts-1439597'>finkidz5</a>:</cite> That link is not the one I was referring to but you get the picture. The article I was refering to was in ‘USA today’ yesterday, and the ‘NY times’ last week</blockquote> Well uh even from that horrible excuse for an article it appears that the error was made by the companies reporting themselves on how many jobs they'd saved, not the administration And the example you cite is obviously the worst one, seeing as the actual number was 25,000 as opposed to the 30,000 they claimed. It's hardly a mistake worth marching on the white house with torches and pitchforks for. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/63857?page=1#posts-1439597">finkidz5</a>:</cite> That link is not the one I was referring to but you get the picture. The article I was refering to was in ‘USA today’ yesterday, and the ‘NY times’ last week</blockquote> Well uh even from that horrible excuse for an article it appears that the error was made by the companies reporting themselves on how many jobs they’d saved, not the administration And the example you cite is obviously the worst one, seeing as the actual number was 25,000 as opposed to the 30,000 they claimed. It’s hardly a mistake worth marching on the white house with torches and pitchforks for.

2009-11-07T16:06:36-08:00

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2009-11-07T16:06:56-08:00

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bq. "There's no evidence the White House sought to inflate job --" oh, really? Well, let me tell you something, AP. We don't need no stinking evidence. We know they're a pack of thieves and liars in the first place. It's going to happen with health care, too. This is just a microcosm of what's coming. 'Rush Limabaugh' also, I don't really understand him attacking the government for lying about the number of jobs it's saved, and also say bq. You know, you can't even count a job saved anyway. There's no earthly intelligent way to count a job saved. If he doesn't think the job numbers are valid anyway, or even the practice of counting them, why is he getting mad about them claiming 30,000 instead of 25,000? <blockquote> “There’s no evidence the White House sought to inflate job —” oh, really? Well, let me tell you something, AP. We don’t need no stinking evidence. We know they’re a pack of thieves and liars in the first place. It’s going to happen with health care, too. This is just a microcosm of what’s coming. </blockquote> ‘Rush Limabaugh’ also, I don’t really understand him attacking the government for lying about the number of jobs it’s saved, and also say <blockquote> You know, you can’t even count a job saved anyway. There’s no earthly intelligent way to count a job saved. </blockquote> If he doesn’t think the job numbers are valid anyway, or even the practice of counting them, why is he getting mad about them claiming 30,000 instead of 25,000?

2009-11-07T15:56:10-08:00

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2009-11-07T15:56:56-08:00

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Maybe you could link to the article so that we can see it. Maybe you could link to the article so that we can see it.

2009-11-07T15:49:03-08:00

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2009-11-07T15:49:03-08:00

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You got pins and needles and then made a thread on the internet about it. You got pins and needles and then made a thread on the internet about it.

2009-11-07T15:44:51-08:00

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2009-11-07T15:44:51-08:00

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MrRubix straight up looks like Michael Ballack. MrRubix straight up looks like Michael Ballack.

2009-11-07T15:25:09-08:00

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2009-11-07T15:25:09-08:00

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Allows them to do what? Allows them to do what?

2009-11-05T18:56:53-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/63481?page=2#posts-1433650'>finkidz5</a>:</cite> You cannot use the Bible as a source, because it is only valid based on your belief. Do you have another source?</blockquote> When it comes to the death of Jesus, the Bible is the only source there is to go on. If you don't believe in it then blaming the Jews for killing Christ is a nonsensical argument anyway. If you _do_ believe in it then you need to accept the events as written. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/63481?page=2#posts-1433650">finkidz5</a>:</cite> You cannot use the Bible as a source, because it is only valid based on your belief. Do you have another source?</blockquote> When it comes to the death of Jesus, the Bible is the only source there is to go on. If you don’t believe in it then blaming the Jews for killing Christ is a nonsensical argument anyway. If you do believe in it then you need to accept the events as written.

2009-11-05T18:50:37-08:00

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2009-11-05T18:54:06-08:00

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bq. Okay, schools that big shouldn’t be one classroom. Smaller ones should. What size _is_ okay for a classroom then? bq. Why should I? When I ask you to prove something you say “Look it up!” Well, no. On this page alone you've been linked to a Washington Post article, a Wikipedia article with links at the bottom, and a graph from an education website. You've linked to diddly squat. bq. I didn’t say it did. There are other ways except donation. Like what? Making snarky threads in OT doesn't solve anything by the way. If you want to be taken seriously maybe you should try finding evidence for your views. <blockquote> Okay, schools that big shouldn’t be one classroom. Smaller ones should. </blockquote> What size is okay for a classroom then? <blockquote> Why should I? When I ask you to prove something you say “Look it up!” </blockquote> Well, no. On this page alone you’ve been linked to a Washington Post article, a Wikipedia article with links at the bottom, and a graph from an education website. You’ve linked to diddly squat. <blockquote> I didn’t say it did. There are other ways except donation. </blockquote> Like what? Making snarky threads in OT doesn’t solve anything by the way. If you want to be taken seriously maybe you should try finding evidence for your views.

2009-11-05T18:44:31-08:00

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2009-11-05T18:49:26-08:00

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bq. And I do agree alot of rap has good lyrics, but the majority of people who listen to rap listen to that “I pimped my hoes ass” bullshit. Okay, you don't judge rap by the songs that are all 'me and my homies like to have sex with women and shoot people and also we have a lot of money' and I won't judge metal by the songs that are all 'HURRDURRBLOODANDFIRE'. And I know _rock_ has intelligent lyrics for crying out loud. Just need to listen to some Hold Steady, Decemberists or Mountain Goats to figure that out. <blockquote> And I do agree alot of rap has good lyrics, but the majority of people who listen to rap listen to that “I pimped my hoes ass” bullshit. </blockquote> Okay, you don’t judge rap by the songs that are all ‘me and my homies like to have sex with women and shoot people and also we have a lot of money’ and I won’t judge metal by the songs that are all ‘HURRDURRBLOODANDFIRE’. And I know rock has intelligent lyrics for crying out loud. Just need to listen to some Hold Steady, Decemberists or Mountain Goats to figure that out.

2009-11-05T17:52:58-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/63503?page=4#posts-1433463'>Iggyshark</a>:</cite> <blockquote> Whoosh! Reread my posts. </blockquote> No thanks. Unless you’ve changed them to something logical?</blockquote> I believe the point was that the Japanese word for slave wouldn't be offensive to a black person because the Japanese don't have a famous history of black slavery, and therefore the word won't have been used pejoratively relating to black people. There's a completely different social context behind it compared to the n-word. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/63503?page=4#posts-1433463">Iggyshark</a>:</cite> <blockquote> Whoosh! Reread my posts. </blockquote> No thanks. Unless you’ve changed them to something logical?</blockquote> I believe the point was that the Japanese word for slave wouldn’t be offensive to a black person because the Japanese don’t have a famous history of black slavery, and therefore the word won’t have been used pejoratively relating to black people. There’s a completely different social context behind it compared to the n-word.

2009-11-05T17:46:25-08:00

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2009-11-05T17:47:41-08:00

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Was just replying to what nanto said re. bq. rap is crap its just “singing” a poem nothing spacial but with rock you get like people screaming and dressing in black Which I thought was pretty stupid. Also I think your comment about a rapper playing the drums on Painkiller could be contrasted with the lyrics on Painkiller (which honestly seem laughably cliched to me) and "this":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT8m3w9j8Y0. Was just replying to what nanto said re. <blockquote> rap is crap its just “singing” a poem nothing spacial but with rock you get like people screaming and dressing in black </blockquote> Which I thought was pretty stupid. Also I think your comment about a rapper playing the drums on Painkiller could be contrasted with the lyrics on Painkiller (which honestly seem laughably cliched to me) and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT8m3w9j8Y0">this</a>.

2009-11-05T17:40:57-08:00

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Uh, I listen to plenty of 'rock', however loosely you want to define it (electro, math, shoegaze, post, punk etc.). Fair amount of electronica, folk, pop, trip hop, and experimental too. I basically listen to whatever I like that catches my interest. I don't listen to metal particularly because I don't like how it sounds. I'm sure it's hard to do, don't get me wrong, but I still don't find it interesting to listen to. I don't like the rap artists sportsmaster mentioned above either really. Stuff like Talib Kweli, Del Tha Funkee Homosapien, Wu Tang Clan, MF Doom, Immortal Technique, Dizzee Rascal and Akala is more my preference. Uh, I listen to plenty of ‘rock’, however loosely you want to define it (electro, math, shoegaze, post, punk etc.). Fair amount of electronica, folk, pop, trip hop, and experimental too. I basically listen to whatever I like that catches my interest. I don’t listen to metal particularly because I don’t like how it sounds. I’m sure it’s hard to do, don’t get me wrong, but I still don’t find it interesting to listen to. I don’t like the rap artists sportsmaster mentioned above either really. Stuff like Talib Kweli, Del Tha Funkee Homosapien, Wu Tang Clan, MF Doom, Immortal Technique, Dizzee Rascal and Akala is more my preference.

2009-11-05T17:32:23-08:00

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I'll take someone 'singing' a poem over someone screaming into a microphone any day of the week, thanks. I’ll take someone ‘singing’ a poem over someone screaming into a microphone any day of the week, thanks.

2009-11-05T16:39:32-08:00

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility bq. Papal infallibility is the dogma in Catholic theology that, by action of the Holy Spirit, the Pope is preserved from even the possibility of error when he solemnly declares or promulgates to the universal Church a dogmatic teaching on faith or morals as being contained in divine revelation, or at least being intimately connected to divine revelation. It is also taught that the Holy Spirit works in the body of the Church, as sensus fidelium, to ensure that dogmatic teachings proclaimed to be infallible will be received by all Catholics. *This dogma, however, does not state either that the Pope cannot commit sin in his own personal life or that he is necessarily free of error, even when speaking in his official capacity, outside the specific contexts in which the dogma applies.* So I guess papal infallibility doesn't 'count' unless what the Pope's saying specifically relates to what's written in the Bible, and unless he actually states "Hey and what I am saying is actually infallible guys. You know, that whole dogma thing. Just FYI." Him just saying he personally finds something immoral isn't enough to make it 'fact'. Unless he's made any statements of this nature regarding homosexuality, I don't think it's really an issue. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility</a> <blockquote> Papal infallibility is the dogma in Catholic theology that, by action of the Holy Spirit, the Pope is preserved from even the possibility of error when he solemnly declares or promulgates to the universal Church a dogmatic teaching on faith or morals as being contained in divine revelation, or at least being intimately connected to divine revelation. It is also taught that the Holy Spirit works in the body of the Church, as sensus fidelium, to ensure that dogmatic teachings proclaimed to be infallible will be received by all Catholics. This dogma, however, does not state either that the Pope cannot commit sin in his own personal life or that he is necessarily free of error, even when speaking in his official capacity, outside the specific contexts in which the dogma applies. </blockquote> So I guess papal infallibility doesn’t ‘count’ unless what the Pope’s saying specifically relates to what’s written in the Bible, and unless he actually states “Hey and what I am saying is actually infallible guys. You know, that whole dogma thing. Just FYI.” Him just saying he personally finds something immoral isn’t enough to make it ‘fact’. Unless he’s made any statements of this nature regarding homosexuality, I don’t think it’s really an issue.

2009-11-05T16:33:55-08:00

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2009-11-05T16:38:01-08:00

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bq. He doesn’t give badges to games that people want, he gives badges only for high rating, not the people’s opinions, and yeah, this is my opinion. A high rating indicates that most people have a good opinion of that game. <blockquote> He doesn’t give badges to games that people want, he gives badges only for high rating, not the people’s opinions, and yeah, this is my opinion. </blockquote> A high rating indicates that most people have a good opinion of that game.

2009-11-04T16:02:59-08:00

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2009-11-04T16:02:59-08:00

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http://www.mapmaker.com/ ? <a href="http://www.mapmaker.com/">http://www.mapmaker.com/</a> ?

2009-11-04T15:55:20-08:00

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2009-11-04T15:55:20-08:00

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bq. Australia has the best trained military in the world. We lost 1 man in Iraq the whole time we were their Late ’01 – 08 US lost 4,000 I think, and the British lost 100, and, sadly another 5 today in Afghanistan. How many Australians were there? What were they doing? <blockquote> Australia has the best trained military in the world. We lost 1 man in Iraq the whole time we were their Late ’01 – 08 US lost 4,000 I think, and the British lost 100, and, sadly another 5 today in Afghanistan. </blockquote> How many Australians were there? What were they doing?

2009-11-04T15:37:25-08:00

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