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Topic: Off-topic / Which Religion do you dislike the most?

I don’t really dislike any religion when it’s followed correctly… Maybe Taoism?

 
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Topic: Off-topic / People these days

Originally posted by burntfires22:
Originally posted by cllazyman:

Am I right, or am I right?

You’re left.

That’s clever.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Proving the Existence of God

This might seem like a cop out but I would say prayers aren’t answered because if you’re not asking with the right mindset it doesn’t matter what you’re asking for. Plus if it’s against God’s will he shouldn’t have to listen to what you ask, because wouldn’t be a righteous prayer.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why are you Atheist?

I don’t care if I feed the trolls if I’m saying exactly what I believe.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why are you Atheist?

Originally posted by OmegaDoom:
it’s not my place to judge you, that’s God’s

an invisible friend is an extremely weak excuse for telling someone that they are so bad they deserve to suffer for all eternity.

I didn’t say they did, God did. It’s not worth arguing over since you. In fact, I deserve it just as much as any person does. The difference is that as a Christian I have forgiveness.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / America is not that bad..

Originally posted by Mansmany:

america is full of sad whites with bits of smart ones. I am disappoint.

Correct America with the world and change whites to people.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why are you Atheist?

Originally posted by somebody613:

@MS
I’ve seen a very interesting version (not necessarily true), that it was the Jews, who “formed” (made it more un-Jewish) the newborn Christianity, to make it totally SEPARATE from Judaism.
Cause it was but a sect, which usually ended up with more trouble.
So they just decided to cut the branch totally.
I consider this action being stupid, cause we could’ve have now a truly BROTHERLY branch, rather than 2000 years of religious wars and deaths.
Whatever…

As of the topic.
OK, we can just leave it as is. :D

Yeah, interestingly enough I heard that a few weeks ago. It seems like Christians could have been just part of the Jews, but since not all the Jews believed Jesus was the Messiah it didn’t really work out.

People can just get angry about where the topic went. I don’t care.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why are you Atheist?

Originally posted by somebody613:

@MS
Let’s say it this way (as far as I know, you may correct me, best with wiki links):
Christianity directly caused deaths of countless Jews.
Judaism directly caused deaths of zero Christians.

But let’s DROP it, please.
We were discussing something, I think, right..?

Umm before we drop it. What about all the Christians immediately following Jesus? Some were persecuted by the Romans obviously, but I’m sure some Jews played a part in it.

I’m not sure what to go back to other than leave it to OT. Unless you had something else.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / world strongest militaries ranking

I don’t think we had Assassins running through trees like that either.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why are you Atheist?

Originally posted by somebody613:

@MS
“I haven’t heard of Jews killing people within the last 1800-2000 years.”
Or am I’m wrong then?
Cause I read it as “Jews didn’t have anything like crusades and inquisition, at least for the last 2000 years”.
Or did you mean something else?
And my comment was on the phrasing “killing people”, cause unfortunately, sometimes Jews also kill people, though VERY rare, but still.

Well I know Jewish people have killed people, but I was saying since about the time of Jesus (slightly after) I haven’t heard of any major killings by the Jewish people. So I was acknowledging that Jewish people have more or less committed less murder in the name of Judaism. Unless they have and I’m just unaware of it. As opposed to like what happened throughout the Dark Ages.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / world strongest militaries ranking

Originally posted by zombieluigi:
Originally posted by MammothSpider:
Originally posted by zombieluigi:
Originally posted by Dick_Gumshoe:

I’m sorry buddy, but this is not valid evidence.

Agreed, if America has such a great Military, why did they get their asses kicked in….

Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan the rest of the known middle east…..


Guerrilla warfare sir.

Yeah, don’t underestimate Guerrillas, they fight dirty and sneakily.

It’s a big part of how America won independence from Britain :D.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / world strongest militaries ranking

Originally posted by waffle_god:
Originally posted by MammothSpider:
Originally posted by zombieluigi:
Originally posted by Dick_Gumshoe:

I’m sorry buddy, but this is not valid evidence.

Agreed, if America has such a great Military, why did they get their asses kicked in….

Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan the rest of the known middle east…..


Guerrilla warfare sir.


i payed a garrillion dollars for this gorilla army


i got my moneys worth

If only Guerrilla=gorilla…

 
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Topic: Off-topic / world strongest militaries ranking

Originally posted by zombieluigi:
Originally posted by Dick_Gumshoe:

I’m sorry buddy, but this is not valid evidence.

Agreed, if America has such a great Military, why did they get their asses kicked in….

Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan the rest of the known middle east…..

Guerrilla warfare sir.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / America is not that bad..

Originally posted by PALMISANOLDR:
Originally posted by MammothSpider:
Originally posted by HappyYay:

The only country which I would consider moving to is Canada. This is because I don’t want to leave the Pacific Northwest.

I think much of the anti-Americanism is unfounded, but the country does have its flaws. Every country has flaws though.

I really don’t find Americans to be stupid, fat, or rude. They’re the same generally as the people in the other countries I’ve been to, which are Spain, Canada, and New Zealand.

This. Though I think one of the bigger reasons America is complained about so much is because it’s a superpower. Every superpower is complained about by other other governments and people.

Yeah, by “Other other governments”

I’m sorry I got a typo, Geez…

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why are you Atheist?

Originally posted by somebody613:

@MS
Before your last sentence gets trolled at:
You meant “for religious reasons”. (A statement, not a question.)

I’m trying to figure out exactly which part you were talking about. I have an idea, but I don’t want to respond incorrectly.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / America is not that bad..

Originally posted by HappyYay:

The only country which I would consider moving to is Canada. This is because I don’t want to leave the Pacific Northwest.

I think much of the anti-Americanism is unfounded, but the country does have its flaws. Every country has flaws though.

I really don’t find Americans to be stupid, fat, or rude. They’re the same generally as the people in the other countries I’ve been to, which are Spain, Canada, and New Zealand.

This. Though I think one of the bigger reasons America is complained about so much is because it’s a superpower. Every superpower is complained about by other other governments and people.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why are you Atheist?

Originally posted by somebody613:

@MS
Interesting.
Seems that in Judaism it somewhat also becomes “you must believe in GOD to be considered righteous, just you can choose the LITE version, while Jews have to deal with the harder PREMIUM”.
I do hope, that you honestly believe it the way you said – this is a “friendly” version, as much as the Jewish one.
(You choose to believe or not in the thing, and you pay the natural consequences.)
I’d so want this to be true for the last 2000 years, most of which there under “you believe, or get killed”, especially towards JEWS
Sorry, but I do take it personal…
Let’s skip it. :D

I do honestly believe exactly what I said and I can’t point to Bible verses saying you shouldn’t be judgmental of non-believers, it’s sad really how many Christians don’t follow that.

I guess as you said “You choose to believe or not in the thing, and you pay the natural consequences.” It’s something that seems to be what’s taught in both Judaism and Christianity, but it’s not always followed. Unfortunately it does cause much hate and killings sometimes. From both sides, though I haven’t heard of Jews killing people within the last 1800-2000years.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why are you Atheist?

Originally posted by somebody613:

@MS
All my post was about Judaism.
Thus, the “religious” side.
Though, the very division is awkward and somewhat wrong.
Yeah, “born Jewish – forever Jewish”, but this wasn’t my point at all.
I was saying that Judaism doesn’t have the idea of “infidels”.
Idolaters is a bit different case, they utterly deny (or more often, distort) the very idea of GOD.
But those non-Jews who truly follow GOD, and yet are NOT Jewish (em, obviously) – they CAN be RIGHTEOUS according to JUDAISM.
Whereas what I’ve heard about Christianity and Islam (CORRECT me, if I’m wrong! seriously!), is that you’re either “with them” or “against them”.
Aka “infidels”.

Well I can’t speak for Islam because I’m not a Muslim, but for Christianity it’s basically you believe in Christ or you don’t. But it’s not like “YOU DON’T BELIEVE IN CHRIST!?! YOU SHALL GO TO HELL YOU UNREPENTANT SINNER!!!” It’s more like you mess up just like we do, but it’s not my place to judge you, that’s God’s. But what I can say is that without Christ you can’t live a life good enough to get into heaven because of how “bad” we all are. The invitation extends to everyone like I believe you were saying Judaism does, but there still is a right choice and a wrong choice.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / World without Religion: Better or Worse?

Originally posted by somebody613:

@MS
Which is (surprisingly?) the core claim of mine. :D

I want to say that view is shared by all religious people and some non-religious people. :P

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why are you Atheist?

Originally posted by somebody613:

@MS
Judaism has the idea (foreign to Christianity and Islam, I might be wrong, you can correct me) of the “seven Noahide Laws”, for all mankind as the descenadants of Noah.
It says clearly that those non-Jews that follow them, are considered RIGHTEOUS, to the extent of having the Future World together with Jews.
The pagans and unbelievers, of course, aren’t getting this.
But never it says to have any ACTIVE actions against even pagans (if they’re non-Jews, that MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS), until they start ACTIVELY AFFECTING the Jews, which leads to counterattacks, quite obviously.
Simple “self-defense”, on the belief level.
(Free Will is a fragile thing, that easily causes people to be influenced by idiots – don’t we see it in the “normal” life too?)
So, to sum up.
You DON’T have to be Jewish, to be considered righteous by the Jews!
Is it so by Christians and Muslims?

Well are we talking Jewish as in following Judaism or Jewish as in that’s your heritage?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / World without Religion: Better or Worse?

Originally posted by somebody613:

@MS
Eeee…
Again, I was claiming (to DB) that there are no modern morals that would qualify as truly atheistic – and be GOOD in our eyes.
For some weird reason, Ane said that some tribes eat babies (to make it short).
On this I countered by asking, would DB also consider them fitting, cause he claims that society alone can give you GOOD morals.
On this, Ane just mocked me, instead on answering directly the question.
This is when I asked, what would Ane do personally.
Then comes Ane’s claim “nothing is inherently good in morals” aka no objective morals.
And the central question we still argue about “what’s objectively wrong in eating stillborns”.
On this, I repeated my question “what about YOU”.
DR piped in with his “I don’t claim there are atheistic morals, I claim that morals are independent of religion”.
I, again, reminded, that today we have only the result of the 2000+ years of religion’s influence.
I again asked Ane the same question.
Ane again turned it onto me, asking that I name, what’s objectively wrong with it.
Basically, ever since it boiled down to:
I ask Ane’s personal opinion, explaining that if it’s a “NO”, then this in itself is my proof of it being NOT objectively GOOD, which is the direct antithesis of “yes” objectively GOOD.
Etc.
Whatever, sorry for this load of bs…
I decided, I drop this case, Ane can stay with his/her opinion – and have a nice breakfast. :DDD

The only part I feel like moving forward is that religion(all of them) have a huge influence on our morals.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / My quest to learn Russian.

Eventually. Maybe I’ll start this summer.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / My quest to learn Russian.

I was thinking about learning Russian, but I don’t exactly have time to focus on it right now.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why are you Atheist?

Originally posted by somebody613:

@MS
Yeah, too many of them.
Happened to me once or twice too. :DDD
What did you mean then?

Huh?
Also, I said that not only about JEWS, but ANY ONE.
GOD loves and cares for ALL humans, just their roles are different, TECHNICALLY.
(That’s the point I HATE about religions with “followers” and “enemies”. Judaism never said that NORMAL non-Jews are “bad”.)

I thought I was reading the other thread with Ane and such.

It doesn’t apply to all religions, just the ones that view God as a father. The only ones I’m familiar with that do that are the Abrahamic religions. Umm…? Judiasm, Christianity, and Islam all say the non-believers are “bad” it’s just how you approach the issue is different.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / World without Religion: Better or Worse?

Originally posted by somebody613:

@MS
Probably not.
I had a heavy discussion on whether OBJECTIVE is a sum of all SUBJECTIVES, or not.
In this case, I’m using it in the meaning of “yes”.
Means, if you claim it, you must agree to it.
Or it’s not objective.
Cause YOU disagree with it.
<=was about Ane’s claim about eating babies.

So if I understood what Ane was saying right. He/she was saying that they wouldn’t do it, but that doesn’t mean you can say it’s wrong. If I misunderstood, that’s unfortunate.