Recent posts by deli_conker on Kongregate

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Topic: Kongregate / Racial Slurs-- Are they actually a problem?

And I thought I was the only asshole on here.

A little levity, perhaps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I11w-rl6iaY

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Facebook invading

Originally posted by Pokerhappy:

It’s an extra click. It takes a maximum of five seconds to get there. It’s not the end of the world, and if you really cared, it wouldn’t matter.

It’s all about convenience. All the info in one spot, I know that’s what my company’s customers want.

Why would I advertise on facebook for kongregate? Sure, I don’t have to click the link at the top to do so, I realize this. But I can’t help but think about it turning into a “votefortheworst.com” thing and backfiring.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / What's with propaganda games being allowed on here???

Originally posted by ZeroMoge:

“Code a function”? WTF are you programming in, Perl?

C++, GML, and A7 actually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Void_type

Even Flash uses functions…

http://www.adobe.com/support/flash/action_scripts/actionscript_tutorial/actionscript_tutorial12.html

 
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Topic: Kongregate / What's with propaganda games being allowed on here???

@ arcaneCoder:

Well in that case, you guys should try this one…

http://www.kongregate.com/games/IzzyRayLee/iron-dome

I can also tell from the posts that nobody bothered with the links I posted. Makes me sad that everybody is so distracted by the “free stuff” that they don’t realize what’s taking place in the background.

You say that IP rights allow sites like this to exist??? Not for long. If you bothered with the links I posted, you would know that the supreme court case deals with ability to patent software processes. You have “coder” in your name so I am assuming you actually write code in some language. So imagine what’s going to happen if you code a function into a program that somebody else you’ve never heard of has patented. Now you’re being sued. I bet you’ll care about where IP is going then.

I guess this is the point where Kongregate starts selling out to whoever brings in the money? Seen it before. I know where this road leads…

 
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Topic: Kongregate / What's with propaganda games being allowed on here???

A while back, there were several games removed because they were deemed as propaganda (Palestinian missile defense games) and inappropriate. And I can understand why. In the best possible sense, the games were pushing an opinion down your throat. In the worst, they were insulting to the people they made fun of.

And now we have the new Intellectual Property game. Er, I mean Wallace & Grommit: Sprocket Rocket. Er, wait a minute, Wallace & Grommit really aren’t in this game, are they. Still don’t get that one…

Does the game really need to tell us we should be copyrighting everything? How does that have anything to do with the game at all? How does it benefit the game at all? I come hear to play games, not be preached at about something I don’t believe in.

Right now there is a case in the supreme court that deals specifically with software patents. A short (30 minutes) film made of interviews and well worth watching…

Patent Absurdity explores the case of software patents and the history of judicial activism that led to their rise, and the harm being done to software developers and the wider economy. The film is based on a series of interviews conducted during the supreme court’s review of in re Bilski — a case that could have profound implications for the patenting of software. The court’s decision is due soon…

http://patentabsurdity.com/watch.html

There is a very valid argument against Intellectual Property using real numbers and facts. Several industries ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COPYRIGHT THEIR IDEAS. And the interesting part is that their industry makes far more money and is known to have far more innovation than those that get into patent wars and unheard levels of litigation.

Anybody that in not familiar with the TED talks should go and educate themselves. at http://www.ted.com

Currently on their homepage they have a 16 minute talk about an industry without all this lawyer-ing. You can also see it here…

Industry with no copyright protection? Lessons from fashion’s free culture.

http://wimp.com/freeculture/

I guess a FREE GAMES SITE is the last place I thought I would get a sermon on copyright protection… :(

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Are Game Maker games uploadable on kongregate?

Originally posted by chiphead8:

I tried to upload a game that I made on Game Maker but when I tried to upload the game, it said it was invalid. So, are games made in Game Maker uploadable on Kongregate? If not, Why?

There is a plug-in for Internet Explorer that allows you to play GameMaker games online. It’s the very same one you use to play games on YoYo Games site (makers of GameMaker). It is essentially the runtime for GM. It would be up to Kong and YoYo to get together and make it happen. Good luck with that one!!!

 
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Topic: Kongregate / New Comment Thing: "Best" and "New" Comments

Originally posted by Kioyoh:

‘Great game’ is not constructive at all. It just voices an opinion, with no reasoning. It is an nonconstructive as ‘Bad game’.ok

Yes, some useful comments get under threshold, but most don’t. I have seen a lot more better written comments (also in the ‘newest’ section) then before the update. More people are actually trying to make a better comment.

Copying what everybody else is doing isn’t necessarily an improvement. I could take the cruise control from my car and put it on a riding lawn mower. Not really an improvement, is it?

Well, lawnmowers and cars are not really similar. Kongregate and Youtube are similar in the sense that they allow users to comment on works.

All comments are opinions. Even constructive criticism comments are still opinions. Aside from bug reports, but I’m pretty sure that there’s a link specifically for that.

A riding lawn mower and a car are extremely similar! Four wheels, combustion engine, forward and reverse movement, steering mechanisms. It’s just that one usually carries cargo and people at a relatively higher rate of speed and the other moves slower and cuts grass. I could put a “slow moving vehicle” sign on the back of a riding mower and voila, it’s street legal. But cruise control still isn’t going to be an improvement…

No offense, but most of the stuff on youtube doesn’t classify as “works” (yes, I know, another opinion).
Reminds me of this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4dSsla-q6o

 
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Topic: Kongregate / New Comment Thing: "Best" and "New" Comments

Originally posted by safsdfdfa:

What I would really like to know, and it might have already been asked, is What was the thinking behind changing to this system anyways? How does it benefit the site?

Companies have to keep improving their product or they’ll fall behind competitors. Similar social sites like youtube have shown the system to be effective, so it made sense for Kongregate to follow.

Copying what everybody else is doing isn’t necessarily an improvement. I could take the cruise control from my car and put it on a riding lawn mower. Not really an improvement, is it?

 
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Topic: Kongregate / New Comment Thing: "Best" and "New" Comments

Originally posted by Kioyoh:

Comments under rating threshold make people curious, and check it out, and thus more likely to rate. The ‘geat game’ example is not constructive at all, so people rated it down.

If you see a comment you want to see higher, just upvote it. There’s not much more you can do. In my case, all of the ‘under threshold’ comments I’ve seen were unproductive (most of them being ‘LOL VOTE THIS UP IF YOU WANT OLD COMMENT SYSTEM BACK’ or something like that). Every system has its flaws, but I think this system will enable better comments to be recognized more, in most cases.

If I publish a game in flash, I would most certainly want to know if somebody thought it was a great game!!! How is that not constructive? And quite frankly, I think the comments that are on the page where the game is are more likely to be rated than any other, curious or not.

What I would really like to know, and it might have already been asked, is What was the thinking behind changing to this system anyways? How does it benefit the site?

Okay – so I posted this and went to the home page. Clicked on the “vehicles” game. One of the top comments said “Under rating threshold (hideshow) interesting game, 4/5 for creativity”. It was at -4. How is that not constructive? It tells the creator that somebody likes what they are doing. A post doesn’t have to contain a criticism for it to be constructive. It’s BS.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Snail and Great Game 1/5 get praise. . .

Originally posted by kirdaiht:

the pop game was badged as soon as it was uploaded on kongregate. There were no ratings, thus no reason to give any badges. Then it turned out the community didn’t like the game, and the ratings went down a LOT.
Great Game 1/5 and Snail actually had been around for some time and got a relatively good rating. ( 3.41 and 3.61 at the moment, which is badgeworthy), while POP only got a 2.5 (aproximately). Clearly. Great Game, 1/5 and Snail are more deserving of a badge then POP.

Also OP, Please learn that “Your opinion” < “the opinion of the rest of the universe”

If the snail game and the great game 1/5 get badges, then they should call it the “You completed a game that’s not really a game!” badge.

Seriously, if I wanted to play with “interactive art/humor”, I wouldn’t expect to find it on a “gaming” site. Too many non-games lately. I’m half expecting to see “Click the Button” win the $1,500 monthly prize.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / New Comment Thing: "Best" and "New" Comments

Originally posted by Kioyoh:

If someone offers constructive criticism that could be used effectively and make a better game, and it gets buried because it is voted down, doesn’t that potentially lower the quality of the games on this site?

This is a very rare case, I believe. It usually is the other way around.

You would think so, but I’ve been going through some of the “below threshold” comments and seen more than I could believe. Heck I saw one recently that said “geat game”. Obviously a typo, but it was at -7. That means that more than one person clicked the link to read the comment and then voted it down afterwords. What type of moron does that? Maybe if you had the option to see who voted you up or down and it least give it some semblance of accountability in order to identify trolls? I don’t know.

All I can say is that “top comments” is turning this site into some sort of popularity contest. And that is fine for actual game submissions as they actually have a chance to win something. But when I read a comment where somebody in the EU using a non-qwerty keyboard mentions to the developer that “not allowing them to change the wasd game controls to something that fits their country’s keyboard layout” gets buried, then I really have to wonder about the kongregate community. It makes me not want to be involved in bettering it.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / New Comment Thing: "Best" and "New" Comments

Originally posted by Ducklette:
Originally posted by MrSpontaneous:
Originally posted by deli_conker:

Quite frankly I think it’s the moderator’s way of having the users do their job for them as a low rated comment is hidden from view.

Actually, comment moderation is not our job – that falls to the admins.

Yep! And we still remove inappropriate comments at least every couple of days. But – I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again – “inappropriate” is different from “unpopular.” I will take down anything that does not belong, but it’s up to you guys as a whole to decide which comments you do and do not want to see. And I agree that helpful criticism sometimes gets a bum deal. But that’s all the more reason to become involved in the system and vote so that the comments you like get more of a chance to shine. :)

If someone offers constructive criticism that could be used effectively and make a better game, and it gets buried because it is voted down, doesn’t that potentially lower the quality of the games on this site?
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And if something like “Top Comments” chases players away to other free game sites, doesn’t that potentially lower the quality of the site as a whole? In a word, mediocrity.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / New Comment Thing: "Best" and "New" Comments

I think the top comments thing simply sucks. I have seen several comments that were below viewing threshold that were actually pretty good and/or accurate criticisms. It’s one thing for the games to win a contest by popularity. It’s another thing altogether for comments to be sorted through in the same manner as it censors dissenting opinions. Quite frankly I think it’s the moderator’s way of having the users do their job for them as a low rated comment is hidden from view.

 
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Topic: The Arts / Art for the Necronomicon

Powder of Ibn Ghazi redux…

I kind of want to do a version of this that makes it look like it is happening in the corner of a room or a basement.
It will either look better or be distracting. We’ll see. Maybe by tonight I’ll have something…

 
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Topic: The Arts / Art for the Necronomicon

Almost done with Powder of Ibn Ghazi. Hopefully have it up later on today (having a birthday party for my youngest – she turned 1 this past Wednesday)…

 
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Topic: The Arts / Art for the Necronomicon

So while looking for some inspirational art, I came across these…

http://llbbl.com/data/RPG-motivational/images/cthulhu.jpg



Good stuff…

 
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Topic: The Arts / Art for the Necronomicon

uh dude.. all you can see is his sleeve..

yeah its a very nice sleeve.

Indeed. It is a very nice sleeve. That’s why I mentioned the hat. Nobody wears hats with their suits anymore…

 
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Topic: The Arts / Art for the Necronomicon

deli_conker – the idea is spot-on but just not too sure about the grey background or the octopus (bit to regcongnisable as an octopus rather than some awful monster with tentcles)

Hehe. I thought the same about the gray as well (the gray is actually from a picture I took of my garage floor). Changed it, but this forum must not update very fast. I see what you mean about the octopus. Let me brush up on my H.P.Lovecraft and I’ll see if I can make him with a bit more umph…

 
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Topic: The Arts / Art for the Necronomicon

@sakket Not everybody wore suits back then. If you had money, you did. It’s just that the suit he’s wearing is 1990 or later. Not the same as 1920. Do a google search for “zoot suit”. Maybe an appropriate hat would suffice?

Here’s my first idea for Powder of Ibn Ghazi. Not sure whether to leave the “powder” in the pic or not…

EDIT: I like the black background better than what I had before. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, don’t worry about it…

Oh yeah, @GamesofCthulhu – I wasn’t trying to be crappy when I said that I was waiting for your answer about Arkham Horror. Hopefully you didn’t think I was. Downloaded the rules earlier today and hoping I can get a chance to read them tonight. Fantasy Flight has never disappointed me before…

 
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Topic: The Arts / Art for the Necronomicon

Powder of Ibn-Ghazi: A creature dissolves like the Elder Sign in Dispel

Hehe. Considering I made the Dispel art, I should be able to do something like it for Powder of Ibn-Ghazi. It’s actually almost done. Should be up within an hour or so.

I like AlfFly’s King in Yellow.
SuitedCriminal’s Doppleganger is okay, but looks too modern for my tastes. Give him some clothes from the 20’s-30’s and it would be cool (IMHO, that is).

 
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Topic: The Arts / Art for the Necronomicon

deli_conker – that dispel card looks great on the card, the image is so well done and designed, there’s no doubt about what it represents.

Thanks. I’m glad I could help out. I am working on one for the powder of Ibn Ghazi. I have a cool idea for it, If I can implement it it should turn out cool. Should have it up in a few hours; I am getting ready to take a practice test and technically I am still at work. But later on tonight I’ll have something…

You never did answer my question about the learning curve for Arkham Horror. Is it tough for experienced players to learn? I know you mentioned it had a lot of rules. Is that relative to Risk or Axis & Allies? Or is it a lot of rules compared to Squad Leader and Empires in Arms?

 
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Topic: The Arts / Art for the Necronomicon

I’m working on the Powder of Ibn Ghazi.
Should be up later on today.

 
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Topic: The Arts / Art for the Necronomicon

Art for Dispel…

The effect is the pentagram dissipating. Could certainly be improved upon, but after eight beers, improvement
will have to wait…

Free for all to use as long as credit is given.

Thanks for the opportunity to mess around with Fireworks and GIMP and for making a fun little time waster of a game ( the 8 beers will not be wasted). My hobby store will be glad you made this game as I will probably pick up Arkham Horror as a result…

 
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Topic: The Arts / Art for the Necronomicon

Awesome.

Working on Dispel right now. Should have something in the next half hour or so (hopefully).

How many people do you need to have a fun game in AH? What’s the learning curve like for experienced gamers?

 
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Topic: The Arts / Art for the Necronomicon

Looks like I’m a little late on this one as well. Maybe I can contribute for one card. I was at the hobby store today and almost picked up Arkham Horror after playing this game. Reminds me of Maganic Wars with a little more coolness, so to speak.

In case I missed it, what size/format images are you most comfortable working with?