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Topic: Serious Discussion / Evolution - true or not?

Old topic title: Evolution vs. Religion

My proposal: Interpreted Religion & Evolution vs. Your Misconceptions.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Evolution; scientific fact or believed by faith?

Evolution may be proven by observance, but one must consider that science is speculation from what we can observe. What makes you evolution supporters think that evolution is the final answer, and nothing else is left to it?

When you assert evolution as fact, you have faith that there are no other factors that can jeopardize it.

(Note: Not a Christian, but a Deist. Don’t be one of those idiots who starts slamming the bible in front of me under the assumption that I’m a Christian.)

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Topic: Serious Discussion / a relaxing sport, or murder?

It’s not even close to the caliber of meat producers that factory farm. What’s wrong with killing animals? It’s natural selection.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is fear good for people?

Fear is good, but not in advertising. Fear keeps society and a consumerist instinct together.

That “What if?” question has a lot of power on the free market.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / AX: There is no God

No god = No religion = Less faith and will to live. The weak will probably shun from existentialistic philosophy and opt for more extreme measures such as but not limited to: Bucket Lists, suicides (possibly chain), increase in perceived value of money, etc.

Religion is a great institution (though it has it’s extremists) where unity can be placed on those so weak that they can’t give meaning to their life. If one could choose a world with or without religion, I would choose one with purely because the weak can be controlled rather then set on their little rages to find purpose in life.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Other than cancer, what is the worst disease?

Worst for the person with the condition: What Neil said.

Otherwise, Smallpox, the bubonic plague, apathy, television, punditry… Blech.

[Degrades into society rants]

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Topic: Serious Discussion / 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer

(Non-Christian deist)
Keep in mind I don’t believe in Christianity, and made a quick response. Want more detail? Interrogate me.

1: Why won’t God heal amputees?
They’re getting their blessings taken away, not being cursed. Mere existence is good enough for god’s gift. You’re given this fantastic world, then your society twists it into ways where the amputation became inevitable for some reason or misjudgement. Is God bad for taking it away, or should you be satisfied with the fact that you had them?

2: Why are there so many starving people in our world?
Because our global world takes advantage of them. Sucks, but it’s the fault of many people. Do you think god should help them? Or should we use the abilities god gave us to help them ourselves?

3: Why does God demand the death of so many innocent people in the Bible?
Most of them were not innocent. One must consider that God gives life, so if God takes it away that seems fair. After all, your existence is a gift.

4: Why does the bible contain so much anti-scientific nonsense?
What makes you think that god’s framework for the world, science, could actually disprove God? Are you saying all science is truth? This is blindness.

5: Why is God such a huge proponent of slavery in the Bible?
It was a cultural norm, and again, the slaves are lucky to be alive. Some slaves even led happy lives.

6: Why do bad things happen to good people?
Life ‘aint fair, but the only thing you should consider is existence is a gift, and god’s gift of the universe is proportionals between humans.

7: Why didn’t any of Jesus’ miracles in the Bible leave any evidence?
Why do you value truth more than logic? Examine the bible, and instead of demanding proof, demand reason.
As such, I need this extrapolated upon. Not everything biblical is accounted for, however I do know some events have evidence.

8: How do we explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you?

9: Why would Jesus want you to eat his body and drink his blood?
Jesus didn’t advocate communion, humans did.

10: Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians?
Why does it matter? Where is your source?

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Overweight people should pay 'fat tax' to cover healthcare costs.

I would accept this wholeheartedly if it catered to the opposite end of the spectrum (Underweight people like me) and it could be easily regulated.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Your political affiliation

Apparently I’m an extreme libertarian, probably reflects my recent interest in Ayn Rand. I’m curious as to how I’m not completely culturally left though :/

Anyways, I felt as if this quiz was not real accurate due to me frequently placing high emphasis on issues (Most of these are important, and your rating on importance impacts scores significantly, possibly painting someone with interest in politics as an extremist) and lack of a grey-area.

My Political Views
I am a right social libertarian
Right: 6.62, Libertarian: 8.32

Political Spectrum Quiz

My Foreign Policy Views
Score: -10

Political Spectrum Quiz

My Culture War Stance
Score: -6.7

Political Spectrum Quiz

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is religion 'dying'?

You MUST be joking. Religion has always been a unifying force. Have you seen “Book of Eli?” The idea was that religion could be used for good or evil and that bad politicians banned people together sometimes, making promises of heaven for those that die in war and stuff. Anyway, you can’t tell me catholics/christians/muslims/jews, don’t seem in a way, unified today, and if you look at it historically, hell yes their was unification.

Such a great concept, but it had a lot of filler and untapped potential. Still, an awesome movie.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Manners: A smoke screen

You appear to be contradicting yourself. You say “At least she was nice” accomplishes nothing, but clearly in your case it does. You return to Macdonalds because someone was polite to you, and despite them getting your order wrong.

More factors, such as it being next to my bus stop.

I’m talking about a hypothetical society that doesn’t require manners, removing them would be quite difficult since they’re still the rule rather than the exception in many places (Still).

Maybe one can find consolidation and personal comfort in the quality of service instead?

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is religion 'dying'?

When was religion ever a ‘unifying force’?

Read up on the Abbasids and Ummayads. Fascinating empires that succeeded through the use of a great religion, Islam.

Now that our society is more advanced than classical and ancient ones, the intelligent portion of our world can rely on their-selves for reasonable morality, whereas those that arn’t as intelligent to make good decisions or consider their origins in-depth can use religion as a sort of guide for living with morality and purpose.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / God created the earth in 7 days, or not?

I don’t think it matters, what matters is the purpose god has for you. Maybe he has one, doesn’t, or just doesn’t exist. That’s what really matters.

As for scientific arguments against religion, why would one of gods creations disprove him? ;)

also, the bible literaly sais:
for god, 1 day is like 1000 years and 1000 years like 1 day.
so the earth could also be created in 7000 years.
any thoughts?

Could you cite this scripture?

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Manners: A smoke screen

It has occurred to me that manners may be starting to become a key part in our society, and while “Please” and “Thank you” are fine, I believe that I’ve seen people of low status try to primp their accomplishments up with things such as courtesy, rather than raw accomplishment.

I ask, why do we appreciate manners? Without manners, we would have a clearer definition of other people through their accomplishments, strengths, and weaknesses. It seems like “At least she was nice” accomplishes nothing in the long run.

The reason I bring this up is from a couple encounters at McDonalds, where the employees are nice but can’t properly handle my orders. The manager, also my best friends dad, promoted a clerk who messes up my orders and appologized to me by giving me free apple pies on different occasions.

So, what is the future of manners? Would a society without them be more or less ideal? I think this is a great topic of discussion. As for those who think I’m begging the question of defining manners, I’d rather have you touch on all aspects of them.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Materialistic World

Originally posted by Cheeseisace:

The world changes. As more becomes available, people want more. People want they’re lives to be ‘easier’, that is the way it always has been, and I fear that that is the way it always will be. Its instinct to want more, to want something better.

Which is why competition and specialization deserve greater value in the world of today. After all, there’s no reason to lower our standards when there’s so much to do with an indefinite future, and we can’t succeed beyond our current state with a bunch of psychology and sociology majors.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Materialistic World

Originally posted by TheBSG:

The best part about Fight Club is that it is ultimately criticizing the very ethos that young impressionable people tend to ironically identify with in the movie/book. They are staggeringly unaware, and it is hilarious. In-fact, that story really is quite pertinent to this discussion about so-called material evils.

This is true. The point of fight club is to maintain control in your life, however some can take it as an attack/praise of anarchy or facism, and possibly even god.

The essential theme is that none of the belief systems of Jack and Tyler (Pre-burning and post-burning) are correct, however, by comparing the valid points each makes one can find the main theme and philosophy of it.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Materialistic World

This is what I think

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Problems with the US Education System

Oh my gosh, you made this thread right as I was breaking down because of how pathetic my school system is! Great!

I can completely concur with LordSyngal for all his points.

My opinion is that we’re being coddled into one big blob. Instead of letting those who choose to stagger flunk, we accomidate them and make the system easier for them. With the exception of mental retardation, it’s absolutely unacceptable to have any students below level (It’s REALLY easy work now!)

The second problem is we’re not letting people work at their own pace. A few years ago teachers let me work ahead in middle school, nowadays I sit around and half of my class time is wasted because I get the concepts twice as fast as other students. Some students DO need things repeated, but some of us don’t, and I’m afraid that even in our AP/honors classes that is not the situation.

Third, the electives right now are a waste. We have too little curricular electives and too many non-curriculars. I mean, we don’t need culinary arts! We need more science electives besides forensic anthropology (Which is a class you get graded on for taking notes on the show ‘Bones’).

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Topic: Serious Discussion / What's the last book you've read?

I just read Into The Wild, a documentary memoir, and am going to read Evasion (Hobo author), the Divine Comedy (Again) and Atlas Shrugged. Possibly switching that order around though…

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is homework helping us?

I think it should be graded if you do not have an A average. If you get the concepts, there’s no need to reinforce them.

I’ve learned this when I got 100’s on all 4 tests and quizes in Chemistry, and didn’t do a piece of homework. Some subjects just arn’t that hard!

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Homosexual Marriage

There’s a real easy solution to the problems associated with marriage. Deinstitutionalize heterosexual marriage and it’s culture aspects and allow people of all preference to engage in the legal aspect of marriage: the sharing of property. By leaving culture out, you avoid propping up and/or offending people of different preference.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Porn, negative or positive?

It’s a safe way to keep the youth educated and knowledgeable about the world. Shielding children from things just makes them uneducated and inessantly idealistic. It’s best to not purple ink and have rational children who are not censored for silly purposes.

Innocence. We hold onto it for too long.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / The Fall of Rome

I’ll try to address this as best as I can, though I don’t have much ‘edgumacation’ ;)

First, you must consider that as businesses work, cutting corners is necessary. You can see this today in places like the Eddie Bauer sweatshops, china, etc. The Romans used slavery as a way to cut greatly, in fact, 1/3rd of Rome’s population was slaves! The slaves either sold themselves or were prisoners of war (Punic wars, conquest of Gaul specifically)

In Greece and the Roman Republic passion was the main driving force behind politics, the arts, and other things. They were HIGHLY motivated and not very worldly. However, the upper classes of Rome became corrupt with wealth and self indulgent lifestyles, leading to a less politically strong nation. The manors of the upper classes, called latifundia, were homes for tons of slaves. These places had their own agriculture fields and resources so one could even be, if so inclined, self sufficient! Latifundia manors dominated the economy with rapid production of simple goods such as agriculture and artisan products. (Later, failure to use proper farming techniques caused these manors to fall, but Rome declined first!)

However, the latifundia undercut the low classes and poof, they’re unemployed. These people fled to cities to find any jobs they could, and became leather tramps. This caused Rome to be at it’s highest carrying capacity, infastructures were used to death (IE: Fountains), and Rome could not bring in more people from the outside.

The low class started revolting, and this weakened the military significantly. That’s a key fact.

Finally, germanic invaders forced their way into Rome after being rejected, and forced their way in, bringing in the fall of the western empire. This happened starting around 300AD (?) and Rome’s last leader in the west fell to the Huns in 476AD.

Would you like more detail? There were many other small factors, but those seem to be the greatest for me.

Now, to address you, racism is more of a way to feed the fire and bring up more revolts, but you have to recognize efforts such as the Treaty of Milan that tried to lower it and bring more order.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Baby Boomers Go Bye Bye.

If everyone in your generation shares your bleak view of society, you will end up with nothing.

I definitely share democratic views, just not at our economic state. Restore our wealth and status and you bet I will be more pro-social security etc. than ever before.

It seems more selfish to me to take from the competent what the incompetent or impaired cannot make or gain in the name of ‘a greater good’ where really what I would be doing is still making people dissatisfied, lowering ethic by catering to those that can produce less, and doing a fatal blow to our already limping economy.

I am a pessimist, and it’s because I long for perfection, which will not bear well with me.

Yes, because the less fortunate you abandoned will simply ‘poof!’ so as not to tarnish your utopian illusion.

They’ll die, probably starve or get worked to death. Why would I think otherwise?

We all know from history that when you more or less abandon millions of people to cater to a small elite, nothing ever goes wrong.

I suggest education that is so well funded and rigorous that we will have possibly half or all of our college education done, therefore the new americans are certainly going to be a medium to large ‘elite.’ For those not put through any rigorous education, they might as well start getting up to snuff because getting a degree isn’t too hard.

Natural selection has nothing to do with this.

It can be translated to “Survival of the fittest,” which I encourage in academics and economics.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Religion/atheism poll.

Can you read?

take this to shouts. You’re jackin’ this thread.

Also, I would appreciate it if you tried actually providing counterarguments to my relatively good points other than bringing up new attacks and general bigotry of a new fashion.