Topic: Forum Games / Chocolate Mafia [No Chocolate Involved] DAY THREE

At no point in those sentences did I give any indication that I desired cazdingo’s lynching purely because I wanted him gone.

These are the words I meant:

may as well be a death sentence in any given mafia

I did state that Zzzip’s logic was fairly sound, on the basis that caz was giving off large numbers of mafia signals

Funnily enough, Zzzip50 had unvoted caz.
However, this is actually a strong argument

and I did also state that an overreaction on his part would be the end for caz, which it was, thanks to the logic of people playing mafias in general, which tends to be something along the lines of “he’s voting randomly, so HE MUST BE THE MAFIA GUY” and so on;

Breakpoint here. You’re practically stating “The general logic in mafia is stupid, but I’m following it anyway.”
Why didn’t you try to break such logic is you don’t agree with it?

however, if you’ll observe my vote, I never gave an official reason for it.

The reasons apparently were:

+ Zzzip50’s logic;
+ “The reckless accusations, whilst they are frequently mere mislaid accusation, may as well be a death sentence in any given mafia.”

That is to say, I could have voted him for any reason I liked

… and since when is it a good thing to vote somebody for any reason you like without feeling the need to state it?

Mind telling me what the difference is?

I stated it here. To put it short:

+ You voted him because you think anyone who votes recklessly should be lynched;
+ I voted you because you used mafia-ish logic;

Thank you, Vara, for that obvious attempt at implied accusation. I shall now proceed to disregard it completely, on the grounds that it has no basis.

It was more meant as an “The mafia will of course recieve support; you shouldn’t be fooled by the apparent support BCLEGENDS gets and think for yourself!” message to the townies than it was an accusation to everyone who supported you.

Feel free to disregard it.

You’ll notice how frequent bandwagons are in most mafias, especially early on in a game.

“Whenever possible” is key: it isn’t always possible. Especially on day one, the town will indeed lynch somebody random. However, as town, you could’ve stated the vte was random rather than to use mafia-logic to try to convince even more people.

You mean random insults? Like the kind I DIDN’T make in my previous post? Because that’s what “Oh My God You Suck” (abbreviated to OMGUS) implies there.

An “OMGUS” vote is when A votes B, and then B countervotes A because A voted him. Basically, I say you’re only voting me because I voted you.

You actually look a lot less mafia now, mainly because your reason for voting caz makes more sense, and your counter-arguments lie a bit out of the mafia spectre. (I would’ve expected the mafia to either react smarter, or more stupid.)

Still, I feel that there’s been voted ruthlessly against me though. (I guess I only have myself to blame for that; after all, I asked you to be more active in the voting and started voting already without FoS.)

Unvote BCLEGENDS.

Topic: Forum Games / Chocolate Mafia [No Chocolate Involved] DAY THREE

Originally posted by coolo2011:

So I’m reading your posts, and what was a fairly strong argument just sort of… broke down in front of me. You initially had a strong argument, but that last post just seemed to scream ‘IMMA NOT MAFIA AT ALL ALL U ARE LYNCH THEM ALL.’

Actually, my last post was more like “I HAVE ALREADY STATED MY DEFENSE AGAINST THIS, DON’T IGNORE IT!”

I actually though “What the hell?” when BCELEGENDS was accusing me for everything I had already defended against in a post before it, and he entirely ignores it.

The discussion feels like this:

A: I claim that the sum of one and one equals two.
B: You’re saying that 1+1=3?
A: No, I meant that 1+1=2.
C: Since A claims that 1+1=3, A sucks at math.

(And actually, I didn’t state or imply “LYNCH THEM ALL”; only BCLEGENDS is suspicious currently.)

Topic: Forum Games / Chocolate Mafia [No Chocolate Involved] DAY THREE

Vara, you’ve gone and opened yourself up for accusations of hypocrisy

No, I haven’t. I explained in my previous post what the difference is and why it’s not hypocrisy. You’re clearly ignoging it.

which Jaume has already brought down upon you

And I defended it; it isn’t hypocrisy.
Mind telling why it’s hypocrisy? You should read my defense post. There’s a clear difference.

and which I shall bring down upon you once again

Indeed. There are four mafia members, so it will be bought upon me at least four times.

If voting for someone because they voted recklessly is a reason for someone to be a mafia member, then so is voting for someone because they voted for someone who voted recklessly.

I shall break this sentence to make it understandable:

If voting for someone
   because they voted recklessly
is a reason for someone to be a mafia member,

then

so is voting for someone
   because they voted for
      someone who voted recklessly.

If you actually read my defense post, or actually my initial post, you’d see that I’m not voting you because you voted recklessly, but because you’re voting according to a mafia mindset.

As Jaume noted, it’s practically the same thing, given the circumstances.

How about you actually read my defense post and quit using “JAUMEBG = AXIOM” logic?

Seriously. It’s not hypocrisy, and you clearly are ignoring both my defense post and the intention of my original post.

Also, you’ve claimed I have the mindset of someone who ‘lynches for the sake of lynching’. Somehow, that accusation comes across as scummy in and of itself – lynching for the sake of lynching would imply that anyone and everyone was a target, which is really more a trait of the townsfolk than the mafia.

No, it isn’t. “Lynching for the sake of lynching” means that you don’t care whoever get’s lynched, as long as the lynch happens. This is the case for the mafia because they don’t care whoever gets lynched as long as it isn’t one of them. If there’s an accusation to the townsfolk, they’ll simply lynch him to be done with the current lynch; a lynch during which no mafia was lynched.

The townsfolk, however, does care whether they lynch mafia or not. The town doesn’t go “I don’t like X so we lynch him”, because they try to find mafia whenever possible. If somebody know X is mafia but the bandwagon goes to Y, he’ll try to lynch X and not continue on bandwagon Y just to get somebody lynched.

Thus, the accusation gives the impression, to me, that you have some blame to shift.

I don’t get it. What blame am I trying to shift? Nobody has blamed me for anything before I made that post.

I vote Vara for hypocrisy, reckless accusations, and blame shifting.

This entire post and vote is just OMGUS and doesn’t contain any value, proven by the fact that he entirely ignored my post about why my vote isn’t hypocrisy which made almost all arguments he stated invalid.

And before you counterargument, read all three post I’ve made about this. That includes my initial post, my defense against JAUMEBG and this post.

Topic: Forum Games / Chocolate Mafia [No Chocolate Involved] DAY THREE

Originally posted by JaumeBG:

Actually, now that I reread what Vara said, I disagree. I think voting for someone because THEY are accusing others of recklessly accusing and then you go on and do the same is essentially hypocrisy at its finest and it is recklessly accusing also.

omg u changed ur vote MAFIA

You do actually have a point there. However, there’s a difference:

BCLEGENDS votes somebody for voting recklessly just because somebody voted recklessly. In his reason, he mentioned that he voted because anyone who votes recklessly should be lynched. He didn’t specify why he thought caz was mafia, nor why the mafia would by so reckless. He only voted because (as far as he explains) he thought that anyone who votes recklessly should be lynched.

I vote BCLEGENDS because of his mafia-ish logic. His mindset of lynching for the sake of lynching would only benefit the mafia, not the town. Like I said, he doesn’t think about why the mafia would be so reckless, he just voted to get caz lynched. And voting just to get somebody lynched is scummy. (Why? Because only the mafia doesn’t care who gets lynched, and will try to force the lynch to non-mafia whenever possible.)

Topic: Forum Games / Chocolate Mafia [No Chocolate Involved] DAY THREE

(Well, a day has already passed and no votes have been made yet. I guess I should make the first vote, although I don’t have very strong suspections…)

Two things. First:

Originally posted by Firespread:

Niet!

Lolwut? Mind explaining what you’re trying to say?

Anyway, second:

Originally posted by BCLEGENDS:

I agree with Zzzip. The reckless accusations, whilst they are frequently mere mislaid accusation, may as well be a death sentence in any given mafia. I also vote for cazdingo1995.

Why would a reckless accusation be a death sentece? That sounds like you’re lynching him because you don’t like his behavoir, not because you think it’s suspicious behavoir.

In fact, I think the mafia wouldn’t be so reckless if they try to take down a townie. (I voted him yesterday because I thought he was the Usurper. If there wasn’t an Usurper, he wouldn’t’ve been as suspicious.)

Your reason “I kill him because he recklessly accusses, and reckless accusations should always have death penalty” seems a little bit “I-just-want-to-somebody”-ish. It isn’t trying to find mafia, and it isn’t helping the town in the slightest. It’s only helping mafia to get easy kills.

I vote BCLEGENDS. Our time is getting short (one day left) due to massive inactivity, so we should get a bit more active with the votings. After all, the mafia’s got a voting power of four, so they could easily control the lynch if not at least five or more non-mafia’s vote.

So get a bit more active!

Topic: Forum Games / [Gaming] Optimise This! (Round 1 - Saving the Company)

Originally posted by SamsterSamster:

What did I spell wrong? :/

It’s spelled “optimize”, not “optomize”.
I thought that typo was intentional?

Topic: Forum Games / Chocolate Mafia [No Chocolate Involved] DAY THREE

Originally posted by Zzzip50:

Respect. Give it to him.

Respect not given.

Topic: Forum Games / [Mafia] Lunch Lynch - Congratulations to the town!

I hereby vote AdeebNafees for reasons stated on the previous page.

Topic: Forum Games / [Mafia] Super Mario Galaxy Mafia - Sign-ups

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Topic: Forum Games / Chocolate Mafia [No Chocolate Involved] DAY THREE

Originally posted by Zzzip50:

Nowhere did he attack my role or position. I would like you to quote where he openly accused/deduced I am a desirable subject to eliminate.

Well, I apparently messed this up. He attacks Firespread, not you.

(I still think caz is the Usurper though; except that would make Firespread the godfather, not you.)

Originally posted by Zzzip50:

Edit: Another thing. He needs Mafia to win. Immediately taking the initiative and, according to you, try to kill the Godfather is downright stupid. I just read the roles carefully :P

Once the godfather is dead, the remaining goons will side with him. He doesn’t need the godfather, and he won’t lose the goons after killing the godfather.

Originally posted by Zzzip50:

Edit: I’m actually starting to suspect Caz is the Loon.

I used to think that too, then I took an arrow to the knee racefan12 stated this:

Originally posted by racefan12:

At first, I thought cazdingo was the loon, but if he edited his post to attempt to avoid suspicion, then that would throw that theory out the window. It seems to me that Firespread and cazdingo are not both mafia (though both of them could be town or neutral).

Due to this, I think he isn’t the loon.

Topic: Forum Games / Chocolate Mafia [No Chocolate Involved] DAY THREE

I vote cazdingo1995.

I’m starting to think that he’s the mafia upsurper, who knows that Zzzip50 is the godfather. It explains why he wants to kill Zzzip50 so badly, and why he’s so convinced we’ll find mafia when we kill Zzzip50.

Edit: I messed up. All “Zzzip50” should be replaced with with “Firespread”.

Topic: Forum Games / [Mafia] Lunch Lynch - Congratulations to the town!

And wanted the GM to clarify this point, which he did.

Yes, he clarified that it was possible. However, that it’s possible doesn’t mean it actually happened. And it probably didn’t happen.

Aren’t we all?

Indeed, we all are. But you throw the lynch to somebody of whom you know that he’s innocent, not to somebody you actually consider scummy (really, I don’t get how one could really believe him being scum while you acknowledge he hasn’t logged in since January 31th).

And intentionally throwing lynches to people of whom you know they’re innocent is scummy. I’m not going to believe you didn’t know Darboy was innocent.

Saying that I am suspicious of someone MEANS that I am throwing suspicion on that person, and when I am being suspected, it also means that I am throwing suspicion away from me.

1. When I made that statement, I was reflecting to what you could’ve done in your first post;
2. Should I have added “without directly undermining the list” to the end of that sentence? It’s quite implied by the sentence thereafter.

(Fun fact: sentences have contexts.)

Along with clear confidence in the fact that the werewolf could be a person on the list:

Indeed, you acknowledge that anyone can be the werewolf.

Yes, I have most of my posts contributed to possible alternatives. Unless you’d rather have me repeat the same argument about one of us being the werewolf in every post I made. It seemed to me to have been said enough times to not merit repeatation.

I’m also enstablishing that the werewolf didn’t send the NK in before the lynch was executed, with the argument:

Besides, Bluji had first posted a message asking the werewolf to send in the NK, and then he posted the actual DK message. Why wouldn’t Bluji have included the NK in the same message as the lynch message if he already knew who would get NK’ed?

Then, to keep your point strong, you come with:

As I said, it is possible for the werewolf to have specified that he wanted his NK to be executed a few minutes after the first lynch.

That argument is even weaker than the argument against Darkboy.

So you don’t want me to find any possible weaknesses in the list?

The point is the weakness of your arguments against the list like “to have specified that he wanted his NK to be executed a few minutes after the first lynch” and “I reckon he could have tried to frame the people who would be awake at that time?”. I think everyone here gets why that didn’t happen without me needing to explain it.

You could point out weaknesses if you find actual weaknesses. However, your claims of “weaknesses” are so weak that I don’t think you even believe them yourself. This isn’t pointing out weaknesses for the sake of finding the werewolf anymore; this is undermining for the sake of undermining.

As it stands now, many people will just see the list and think that one of us is werewolf. I am trying to show why it is possible for the werewolf to have not been included in the list. I am not trying to specifically prove that any of us is out of suspicion, because that isn’t possible without lynching.

This is actually a reasonable argument.

Is it the fact that I did not FoS the other two people on the list that makes me look werewolfy?

I’m not accusing you for not FoS-ing racefan12, I’m accusing you for being “The list is invalid, therefore X is suspicious” instead of “X is suspicious, therefore the list is invalid”.

That doesn’t prove anything.

I’m not actually proving anything, I’m defending S_98. I’m not blaming you for accusing S_98 either. Those are just reasons for why I don’t think he’s the werewolf.

Topic: Forum Games / [Mafia] Lunch Lynch - Congratulations to the town!

Racefan12 was only online long enough to make a single post. I have been online far longer, and thought it would be appropriate to post in the thread with what I consider to be valid arguments. Otherwise, you could always mark me for ‘lurking’ and consider that as a scumtell.

Your defense – that the list is nonsense – already started in your first post:

I don’t suppose it is possible that scum could have submitted the kill target in advance, and asked the GM to execute it at that moment? Seems unlikely, but not entirely impossible. Would take suspicion off their backs, at any rate.

I felt suspicious of Darkboy, but now that you mention it, I have noticed that he hasn’t confirmed his role.

Indeed. We all feel suspicious about somebody who hasn’t logged in since the game has began. SOmebody inactive like him must surely have send in the NK against HappyYay and asked Bluji to wait a few minutes before publishing the NK!

[/irony]

You’re just trying to throw the suspiction away from you. It doesn’t take much logic to realize that Darkboy couldn’t be the werewolf; you even said yourself that Darkboy hasn’t logged in since January 31th.

And when did I undermine everything on the list? I did not say “The list is junk, and it is without doubt that the person who is the werewolf isn’t on the list”. I, in fact, agreed that the suspicion does fall on the three of us in light of the list, and then stated the possible alternative strategies that the werewolf could have adopted. I didn’t even say that “this theory is definitely right” or anything of that sort, and merely put it forward for discussion.

You took as axiom that the werewolf had send the NK in advance (no. you didn’t state it, but you clearly implied it)

Read:

I am not sure how much trouble scum would be willing to take in order to maintain incognito, but it isn’t improbable that they would be careful not to open any flash game, thereby marking their presence at that moment.

He could have PM’d the NK/DK in advance?

It doesn’t mention anywhere that the werewolf sent his NK almost directly after the beginning of the night was posted.

I reckon he could have tried to frame the people who would be awake at that time? The chances seem slim, but they do exist.

Which would make it realistic for him to have PM’d Bluji his DK (assuming that he is the werewolf) on account of being unable to PM it later.

the werewolf shouldn’t logically be in a hurry to know the role of the one he has done away with

As I said, it is possible for the werewolf to have specified that he wanted his NK to be executed a few minutes after the first lynch.

I am just wondering whether what appears to be viable evidence could actually be a red herring, and stating the possibilities of that actually happening.

You’re constantly trying to say that the werewolf has sent his NK before Bluji published it. Your arguments for that are as weak as possible (“to have specified that he wanted his NK to be executed a few minutes after the first lynch”. Seriously?), and you are accusing the one (Darkboy) who would be the least likely to be the werewolf, argumented by “He’s the most probable one to send in his NK earlier”. You imply that the ones who are according to the timezones unable to post, are the most likely to be the werewolf.

How do I prove myself innocent?

I guess I used the wrong word. I meant that instead of just making youself not look suspicious and search for other suspicious people, you also try to attack the list.

(I made wrong usage of the word “prove”, but the main point was that you attack the list with invalid arguments.)

It doesn’t rule out the possibility of you being the werewolf either.

Indeed, it doesn’t.
I don’t suspect myself though.

If you ask me who I suspect after that, it is either Racefan, you, or S_98. Racefan because I know definitely that he was online at the moment of the kill, you because of the way you are aggressively trying to ‘pin the blame’, and S_98 because he seems to me the kind of guy who would be on the forums but not playing any Kong game. Plus, while he can state that Woon wasn’t online at the time of the kill, the opposite doesn’t seem to hold true.

About me: if I don’t get the werewolf lynched today, then I’ll most likely be the next one to get NK’ed (or lynched). So yes: I do try to “pin the blame” upon the one who’s the most suspicious of werewolfness, which is you.

About S_98: it was 3am in his country when the lynch occurred.

Also:

Originally posted by S_98:

Aaaaaahhh!!! How do I find out which one is the mafia? If only I had something to disguise the mini-hunch or another way to phrase it so that it secretly does the trick!

Topic: Forum Games / [Mafia] Lunch Lynch - Congratulations to the town!

Which would make it realistic for him to have PM’d Bluji his DK (assuming that he is the werewolf) on account of being unable to PM it later.

It’s four days after Darkboy signed up. So, you think that Darkboy would go “Hello Bluji. I cant be online for the next four days, but I sign up for your game anyway. I’ve decided to kill HappyYay.”?

If he expected to not be able to get online for four days, why has he signed up? Besides, I’d expect far more activity from the werewolf. The werewolf may consider it to be tactical to not post at all, but he’d at least log in.

Besides, he hasn’t confirmed his role.

As I said, it is possible for the werewolf to have specified that he wanted his NK to be executed a few minutes after the first lynch.

I don’t need telepathy to know that the werewolf hasn’t done that.

I don’t know what mathematics you adopted to reason that out, but yes, the possibilities are low. Extremely low, but they still exist.

Used mathematics:

Chance the werewolf knew that time would be used as evidence * chance the werewolf expects someone is online shortly after the NK and directly investigates * the chance the werewolf expects that somebody would notice the awkward time = very low.

Also, 82% of all statistics are made up right on the spot.

Imagining myself in place of the werewolf, I don’t see why I’d like to know that I NK’d a good lunch food (considering that the chances of NKing one was 7/8). It would make sense in a setup consisting of more power roles, where you would be eager to know whether it was a doctor/cop/vigilante that you NK’d.

It may not be that you wanted to hear the result. The main point is that you wanted to get it sent in before the night.

Situation:

You’re doing your homework. There’s only one question you need to answer left, which would take about two minutes. The homework needs to get finished in two days. It’s also already sleeping time. You could either spend two minutes to finish your homework now and be done with it, or you could go sleep and finish that question tomorrow.

To me, it seems likely that you’d finish that question now.

Also, you seem to be getting way more defensive than racefan12. You directly start complaining “The werewolf send in the NK earlier and tries to frame us!”. Racefan doesn’t directly start citicizing everything.

I had already stated that the online list was made half an hour after the actual NK got send in and that it wasn’t poof, but just a guideline. You could, like racefan did, make statements about our current situation and bring your opinion of who you suspect the most. However, you directly start undermining everything on the list.

The list (of suspiciousness) is indeed bad news for the werewolf, because besides making himself more suspicious, it also flags three people as “probably innocent”, which would mean those’d get hard to lynch. Being the one flagged as “more suspicious” would also scare the werewolf off more that it would scare off a townie.

Rather than proving yourself innocent, you try to prove the list as nonsense. A townie wouldn’t need to get that list proven as nonsense if he could get enough arguments against somebody (the list is only an indication after all). Only the werewolf would want to get the part about “less suspicousness” voided.

And you, AdeebNafees, are behaving excactly the way I’d expect the werewolf to behave.

Double FoS against AdeebNafees. (aka. “The only reason I’m not voting yet is because there’s still a busy discussion, and voting undermines discussions.”)

Topic: Forum Games / [Mafia] Lunch Lynch - Congratulations to the town!

With the exception of Darkboy, who has only been online on 31st of January, the same day the roles were distributed.

That’d prove Darkboy is innocent, doesn’t it?

He could have PM’d the NK/DK in advance?

Like knoob already stated:

Originally posted by Woon1957:

Even if timezones do not matter, the point that someone would WANT to pm you their actions is because they will probably be inactive throughout the day, and I’d say everyone in this game is pretty much online everyday.

Why would you PM your NK in advance? There’s no reason to do so.

Besides, Bluji had first posted a message asking the werewolf to send in the NK, and then he posted the actual DK message. Why wouldn’t Bluji have included the NK in the same message as the lynch message if he already knew who would get NK’ed?

It doesn’t mention anywhere that the werewolf sent his NK almost directly after the beginning of the night was posted.

It doesn’t, but the time between the “day ended” message and the “NK executed” message are very close, so there’s very little time during which the NK could’ve been sent.

I reckon he could have tried to frame the people who would be awake at that time? The chances seem slim, but they do exist.

Estimated chance: 10^-4%

As for being hurried, I don’t really see what the hurry is. It doesn’t announce anywhere that the werewolf has to PM his DK decision within a specific period of time

There’s no time period, but I can imagine you’d want to send in the NK (and possibly hear the result) before you go to bed. You aren’t hurried according to the game, but I can imagine that people would like to send in a NK before they’re going to be unavaible for many hours.

considering my level of activity, if I am the werewolf, I could have PM’d the DK decision today when more people are active.

The werewolf could’ve send it when people are more active, but it didn’t. I’ve never seen you (or anyone else) mentioning time as a proof in a mafia before, so the werefolf probably hadn’t thought about it.

It isn’t conclusive.

I never said it was conclusive, but it does make sense. It does provide a reason why you’d want to send in the NK quickly. Of course, there are many other people here who would want to send in the NK as quickly as possible anyway. It isn’t proof, but it can stack up with other coincidences.

Topic: Forum Games / [Mafia] Lunch Lynch - Congratulations to the town!

Originally posted by AdeebNafees:

However, I see why we are under suspicion. All of us were active at the moment of the NK. Or, at least, traceably active. I am not sure how much trouble scum would be willing to take in order to maintain incognito, but it isn’t improbable that they would be careful not to open any flash game, thereby marking their presence at that moment.

I don’t think the werewolf would’ve been careful about that. If he expected somebody to be using timezones or activity to trace the werewolf, then he’d have waited a few hours after the day began before he’d send his DK decision to Bluji; then we could blame the delay of the DK upon the inactivity of Bluji.

Since the werewolf sent the DK almost directly after reading the begin of the day, he hadn’t thought of us using the time. If he wanted to remain incognito, he would, like I said before, have waited a few hours before sending the DK decision.

In addition, you being hurried because you wanted to get some sleep could be a reason why the werewolf (in case it’s you) sent the DK decision so quickly. It doesn’t take much time to tell Bluji something like “I DK HappyYay”.

Topic: Forum Games / Chocolate Mafia [No Chocolate Involved] DAY THREE

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Topic: Forum Games / [Mafia] Lunch Lynch - Congratulations to the town!

The lynch happened around 7:00 GMT, and shortly thereafter the DK got reopted to Bluji. That’s fast and stupid.

I saw the result of the DK 15 minutes after Bluji reported it, and then directly checked who was online within 20 minutes after his posts. There were only three people online:

• AdeebNafees;
• racefan12;
• Vara (obviously).

This list is not entirly reliable. This list has been constructed about half an hour after the DK got sent in, and it only counts people who were playing a game. It’s largely inaccurate, but it could provide a guideline of who are more suspicious.

I also looked up the time zones of the current participants, and calculated their local time when the DK happened:

• Woon1957: 3am;
• AdeebNafees: 1am;
• Taiboss: 8pm;
• S_98: 3am;
• Zzzip50: 3am.

I couldn’t accurately trace racefan12, Darkboy5846, HappyYay. (Edit: HappyYay already dead.)

Some people seem to be awake at some awkward times, but this could be used as a guideline of who are less suspicious. I don’t think (or hope) that people are still online at 3am.

So, a list of suspiciousness:

(Bold = more suspicious, italic = less suspicious)

• AdeebNafees;
• racefan12;
• Darkboy5846;
• Taiboss;
• Woon1957;
• S_98;
• Zzzip50;

It’s remarkable that racefan12 had just commented upon the person who actally got DK’ed. Not sure wheter this is a hint of racefan12 being the evil food, or him not being te evil food.

AdeebNafees is generally more active, so there could’ve been an higher chance of AN being quick enough to read the beginning of the next day than that racefan12.

Some quotes to think about:

Originally posted by AdeebNafees:

I have an idea for a question I am going to use, but since there don’t seem to be too many people doing anything (4 confirms including myself), I will hold on to it for now.

Originally posted by racefan12:

I’m actually now suspicious of S_98 for being impatient about wanting to lynch Gastly and end the day.

Originally posted by AdeebNafees:

Nothing too suggestive, but I feel prickles of reverse psychology run down my back. Why’d you want to be the role everyone’s trying to lynch, especially in the day phase over which you have less control than the other side (numerically)?

Originally posted by racefan12:

Originally posted by HappyYay:

I guess I’ll throw my vote onto Gastly just in case someone switches for some reason.

Generally, once majority is reached, any switching of votes is ignored.

I’m not voting yet, however, I’m FoS-ing AdeebNafees and racefan12.

AdeebNafees and racefan12, can you please give your opinion about our current situation?

Topic: Forum Games / [Mafia] Lunch Lynch - Congratulations to the town!

I’m voting for Gastly101. Why? First of all, it completely doesn’t matter who gets lynched:

+ If we lynch the evil food, the unsure food will take his place and we’ll have seven good foods and one evil food tomorrow;
+ If we don’t lynch the evil food, the unsure food will become good and we’ll have seven good foods and one evil food tomorrow.

Unless we’re unlucky enough to get the very social food (whose power is quite limited anyway), we’ll have exactly the same situation tomorrow no matter who gets lynched.

Why Gastly then? Mainly because he complains about his role. I don’t actually think he’s the evil food, but he apparently doesn’t like playing this, while others do. Why lynch somebody who likes this game and make him sad, when we can lynch somebody who doesn’t like this game so we don’t have to make anyone sad?

In addition, seeing Gastly complaining about his role, he’s less likely to be the very social food.

And, for future reference:
Gastly, you signed up for a game with one werewolf and nine non-werewolves; you could’ve expected to end up being a townie. If you don’t like being a townie, why do you sign up for a game with so many townies?

(Also: confirmed.)

Topic: Forum Games / [Mafia] Lunch Lynch - Congratulations to the town!

Sign-up.

Topic: Kongregate / "Hey! Are you running an ad blocker?"

Originally posted by Tahnval:

permission to run an indefinite number of scripts on my PC, doing whatever they want to do?

Ditch Internet Explorer and get Firefox: it somehow makes those scripts unable to do anything else than communicating with the web page, cookies, and their server.

With a proper browser (read: any browser other than Internet Explorer), there’s really little harm those scripts can do other than privacy invasion like tracking the websites you visit; they can’t access files on your computer or modify configurations.

They do invade privacy, but they’re not security holes (unless you use Internet Explorer).

Edit:

Originally posted by Tahnval:

On a related note, I went to buy some Kreds so I could tip some games. I got a pop-up wanting my card details. No way of telling if it’s on a secure server or not, since there’s no URL. So I closed it.

In case you’re wondering, the URL is:

https://www.kongregate.com/kred_package_purchases/new

Topic: Kongregate / Forum mute.

I actually already made such a script myself about ten days ago:

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/123146

In addition to your script, my script has an easier-to-edit list of muted people, can hide posts quoting muted users, and can hide threads made by muted users.

Topic: Forum Games / General thread

Originally posted by Vara:

Kongregate ForumMute

Kongregate ForumMute is a Greasemonkey script that can mute developous users on the forums. This script can hide:

• All posts made by developous muted users;
• All posts quoting developous muted users;
• All threads made by developous muted users.

Basically, it makes it easier to ignore developous (instead of the “somebody: I’ll ignore developous → developous: trololo → somebody: [respond to developous] → somebody: from now on, I’ll ignore developous → repeat” cycle that seems to be happening here).

Enjoy a developous-free FGF. :)

Topic: Forum Games / [Werewolf] Aurum (Victory to the castle!)

Originally posted by Knoob85687:

[Then why didn’t you roleclaim? If you roleclaimed as the True King, this wouldn’t have been as funny, mind, but still!]

The real king isn’t allowed to roleclaim:

Originally posted by Vara:

The roles

The real king (x1)
The real king has been busy enough with bullying Bertes that he can analyse somebody’s behavior good enough to draw a sure conclusion about whether somebody is Bertes or not. He can bully somebody once a day (he gets the result at the end of the day, not at the end of the night). He can’t bully multiple people because then everyone would hate him and risks getting lynched.
Warning: if you roleclaim to be the real king, nobody would believe you in the story. In this game, you’d get modkilled

In case you wonder why he isn’t allowed to roleclaim, I’ve given an explanarion in Fate of Herrevald:

Originally posted by Vara:

The main reason why the real king may not roleclaim is because there’s only one werewolf, and if the real king finds the werewolf, then the werewolf would probably have lost for sure, since the town knows that either the one who is accused is the werewolf, or the one who’s accusing; probably the accused one.

This way, the clairvoyant does still have to convince the town of whom is Bertes, rather than just a simple roleclaim. This also enables Bertes of trying to find counterarguments.

In games with multiple enemies, or enemies from different factions, the mafia could roleclaim being the cop, accusing somebody, and even be believed if the one who he accused is really an enemy. However, in this game, Bertes stands alone, so she’s got no way of saving himself by some sort of roleclaim.

If Bertes would roleclaim being the real king, he’d be lynched as soon as they figure out that whoever she accused isn’t Bertes. This makes Bertes unable to roleclaim being the real king, which does, according to my opinion, give a quite unfair advantage to whoever does roleclaim being a real king. Therfore, I decided to disallow roleclaims of being the real king.

Topic: Kongregate / Best of 2011 *Official Voting*

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