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Topic: Kongregate / Why only teens on kong?

Originally posted by hamuka:
Originally posted by XeniaTheGreek:

i have never seen anyone getting banned from kong! some kids say they are 9 or 10 or 11, on chat and they never got banned…

Usually the local mod/admin who’s in the chatroom has to confirm with them if they’re really that age. If so, THEN they’re banned. If no mods are present, tough luck, there’s no proof. At most the admins could check chat logs.

“im 9 lololol” is still no proof until a mod confirms this with the person who says that. It can be a joke, and joking is hardly a bannable offense.

What happens will vary based on the situation and what is said.

If someone posted just “I’m 9”, that’s a bit too vague to ascertain whether or not they’re talking about their age or not. They could be talking about the fact that they’re level 9 or something like that.

Generally, I think the admins will let it slide, unless the user was specific enough so that the only thing they could possibly be talking about, is their age. Saying “I’m only 9 years old” would likely get the user banned, if they were reported.

A mods presence isn’t really a factor. Any user can report another underage user, and it should be handled by the admins all the same. The only reason mods double check with a user to see if they’re underage, is because the admins would like to avoid false positives as much as possible.

People joke about being underage even when they aren’t, and they do get banned. So… yeah, it is a bannable offense.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Has GameStop ruined Kongregate? (No) (Title changed by Cman: king of admins)

Of all the times I’ve seen someone say “Gamestop ruined Kong” or something to that effect, I have yet to see anyone provide an actual argument to support saying it. I’m not denying that kong has gone downhill since then, nor am I saying Kong got any better. I just don’t get what people are noticing that’s so different from before, and how it relates to Gamestop.

Originally posted by Mafefe_Classic:

Also discuss how correlation = causation

I see what you did there, and I like it.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Why only teens on kong?

I had posted this explanation in another thread

It is illegal for websites under United States jurisdiction (Living in a different country does not exempt you from being banned) to collect information on anyone who is under the age of 13. This includes information required to make an account and any posts in the chat rooms and forums. Any online service (Xbox Live, Newgrounds, etc…) that allows you to own an account and share information, will have something in their ToS saying that you have to be at least 13 to use it, or if you’re under 13, you must have parental supervision.

Since users here can just lie about their age when making an account, Kong isn’t liable for the user until that user admits to being underage, at that point, their account has to be terminated in order to avoid violating COPPA.

There are a few websites (e.g. Neopets, Miniclip) that have jumped through the hoops to allow under-age kids to have their own accounts, part of that involves restricting communication features. Though many websites altogether disallow underage children from using their services due to the amount of work involved.

Another fun fact: Xanga was fined $1 million for COPPA violations.
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1030_3-6113626.html";

TL;DR: Kong bans underage kids because they don’t want to risk getting fined by the government.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Moderators

Originally posted by Wtf250:

I don’t understand….

Ya gotta be in the know to know, ya know?

 
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Topic: Realm of the Mad God / 5 Reasons Why You Should Get A Trickster

TRIX 4 LYFE!

But no, seriously… Tricksters got some serious potential.

Not exactly an efficient class, but it certainly scores highly on the “fun” meter, and really, having fun is the most important thing.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Updating a game vs Deleting the old ver and reuploading.

I feel like some, more popular (by “more popular” I really just mean that their games got badged), game developers just take one of their previous games as it is, add more graphics, mechanics, and duration, then re-release it with a “2” (or other sequential number), and no one seems to care.

So…. I pretty much agree with what Maritos is saying. Re-publish it as a sequel.

I’m not sure what the official stance on this is, but so long as you own the game, I don’t think it really matters.

 
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Topic: Realm of the Mad God / I want the iceman skin so I'm trading accounts to get it ( read for details pls)

Account trading is not permitted on Kongregate.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Chat for mobile version

I was able to get chat to work on my android phone, but it was too awkward to use, mostly due to the size of the screen vs. the chat-box. It would probably work better on a tablet.

Either way, I don’t know how feasible it is to make a kong-chat app, but I wouldn’t ever expect one.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Ask a mod

Originally posted by FlyingCat:

I am kind of interested if there was any situation where you weren’t sure what to do in the event something was on the boundary between being a problem, and not being a problem.

The code of conduct and the behavioral guidelines seems to be a general outline that doesn’t seem to define the boundaries of where it could be a problem

I believe the guidelines are written the way they are with that exact intention, to avoid having specific boundaries. The goal is probably to better accommodate a wider range of people and help retain interest in the site.

For example, some communities prohibit certain topics and behaviors, which isn’t exactly “healthy” for a couple reasons…

1. Sometimes people can discuss sketchy topics intelligently and without problem.
2. Sometimes well-intentioned people are punished for accidentally doing something they shouldn’t have.

It’s easier to enjoy yourself when you don’t feel restricted. Kong is lenient in regards to what people can talk about, because they want everyone to have a good time.

I just thought of this analogy… Think of the difference between a sandbox and a beach.

What they’re really looking out for is malicious behavior. It’s generally more difficult to recognize a person’s intentions and understand their behavior, which is part of why Kong is relatively picky about who they mod. They’re not really looking for people who know the difference between good and bad, they’re interested in people who understand people.

It’s also why Kong has so many different chat rooms. Some rooms embrace the insanity of humanity, while others don’t. It’s a good thing people tend to gravitate towards like-minded people anyway.

So to answer the original question… It happens a lot. Some users even think of it as a game. Games are fun. Kong is pretty much all about playing games and having fun.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / [Moderation] How to Become a Moderator 101

I like to think it helps when you treat people as unique individuals, as opposed to broad groups e.g. trolls, mods, ect…

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Should mods be able to make themselves exempt from criticism?

I don’t know specifics of this situation, but you can always report the mod if you feel they’re doing something horribly wrong, and the admins will follow through with the issue.

Considering how sparse mods are on this site in the first place, I don’t understand why so many users are so harsh and critical of them. Mods are just trying to do their thing, but there’s always some users that decide they don’t like the mod, so they’ll go out of their way to cause trouble for them.

 
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Topic: Realm of the Mad God / Your Most Recent Death

Originally posted by josharoni5:

I recently died with my 8/8 wizard with cosmic ele det mad lab robe and pyra by a ghost ship mine. wasn’t watching where I was going.. very sad. first 8/8. :(

I sympathize with any and all deaths by water mine. Never underestimate the water mine. :(

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Reporting Underage Users

As Adv0 mentioned earlier in the thread, the reason underage users are banned is because of a federal law (www.coppa.org). Any opinions/arguments are rendered moot because of COPPA.

TL;DR on COPPA: It is illegal for websites under United States jurisdiction to collect information on anyone who is under the age of 13. This includes information required to make an account and any posts in the chat rooms and forums. Any online service (Xbox Live, Newgrounds, etc…) that allows you to own an account and share information, will have something in their ToS saying that you have to be at least 13 to use it, or if you’re under 13, you must have parental supervision.

Since users here can just lie about their age when making an account, Kong isn’t liable for the user until that user admits to being underage, at that point, their account has to be terminated in order to avoid violating COPPA.

There are a few websites (e.g. Neopets, Miniclip) that have jumped through the hoops to allow under-age kids to have their own accounts, part of that involves restricting any communication features. Though many websites altogether disallow underage children from using their services due to the amount of work involved.

Another fun fact: Xanga was fined $1 million for COPPA violations.
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1030_3-6113626.html

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Reporting Underage Users

As a mod, I can confirm that it takes at least a couple days to get a response on underage user reports.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Upcoming Badges!

What about games that got badged a while ago?

Enigmata: Stellar War has an easy and medium badge, but the medium badge mentions future hard badge(s) if the game got properly updated or something. What’s up with that? The game currently has a 4.0 rating.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / [Moderation] How to Become a Moderator 101

Originally posted by hitman8:

Being a mod sucks who the hell want’s to be one?

+1 for having a good point and asking a good question.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Can the mods and admins quit being lazy for once on this site?

Honestly, I usually like the “trolls” (I really hate using the word. IMO, it’s a glorified word that has lost its definition through overuse) more than the typical user. It’s not right to lump every person who “trolls” into a single group. They’re often (somewhat)decent people who are being indecent for fun. They continue to do it because other users are making it interesting/amusing for them to do so.

Mods have to constantly explain to users “Don’t feed the trolls”. Some users refuse to accept this level of responsibility, and instead continue to blame the trolls/mods for their actions/inactions. It’s not uncommon for mods to be insulted and berated by “regulars” for not acting a certain way, and sometimes they’re more hostile about it than the “trolls”.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Permanent Mod needed, room, Possom Lodge(aware, long post)

As far as I know, the admins want people to be using the report function for its intended purpose. It’s their job to read the user reports. I think they can handle it.

Edit: It’s not really spam if you’re using it as it’s intended.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Permanent Mod needed, room, Possom Lodge(aware, long post)

Why are you treating reporting them as a non-option?

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Mod needed in ANThill chat room

It’s not ideal, but there is an option to change rooms. You can take a little bit of time to explore other rooms and see if there’s anything interesting going on, then go back to see if things are back to normal.

This doesn’t really solve the problem, but it is an option that may help you when your current room is being overtaken by unruly forces (e.g. spammers); plus, it doesn’t involve mods.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Contary to what the crows say.

Originally posted by AEBEATIAxSOOKIES:

Patty does not look like a poke’mon and instead of catching him you just eat him.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Petition: Allow name changes

As far as I know, one of the draw-backs to a name change is that it can cause conflicts with any game where your data is stored on a server, i.e. MMOs. So if you do have your name changed, you lose (Or are likely to lose) all of the progress made on any MMO’s or related games.

If it were possible to implement an easy, no-strings-attached way to change your name using kreds, that could potentially be a good idea. There are other games I used to play that had a paid name-change feature, and it was used fairly often.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / It seems funny doesn't it...

As mentioned, your progress/data for the game is stored on the Esgrima 2 servers, which are not owned or managed by Kongregate. Kongregate is just a host/portal to play the game on. Kong cannot really assist you in the matter, since its an issue with a specific game-server and not Kong itself.

There are still things you can do to try resolve the issue, like post on the Esgrima 2 sub-forum to possibly get a more specific answer:

http://www.kongregate.com/forums/261-esgrima-2

Or you could message the developer directly. You could even send them an e-mail about it, since they provided their e-mail address in their account profile:

http://www.kongregate.com/accounts/diploms1

Losing game progress is never cool, but being belligerent is probably not going to help the situation.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Dillo Hills 2 badge names!

Easy: Rollin’ in Hats
Medium: Dillo-coaster Tycoon

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Misleading Advertisements on Kong

Was this a separate pop-up window? If so, that sounds like adware.