Recent posts by Mousethecat on Kongregate

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Topic: Kongregate / When a kongregate staff member uses an OT may may

I too, like Music Band.

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Topic: Kongregate / Plausible ways on dealing with problem users and stemming the tide of spam

I think Realm of the Mad God is a good example of how these things don’t actually work.

They added e-mail verification with a captcha. Spam-bots were gone for about a day, then they were back like nothing happened.

They started to ban certain text strings like “www.” and “oryxshop”. Then the spam bots just started to use things like “w w w .” and “o r y x s h o p”. Then they’d ban more things and the bots would just work around them again. Now it’s common to try to type a normal post and have it not go through because the spam filter caught a false positive.

They added an option to block all messages from accounts below a certain rank/level. Now most of the spam bots are at or above the rank/level threshold.

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Topic: Kongregate / Cussing, Insulting, and Pornography Allowed

I’ll elaborate a little on what I meant by “Mod philosophies”.

Kong mods shouldn’t be seen as rule enforcers who’s purpose is to punish wrong-doers.
They shouldn’t be seen as obedient servants following the whim of their masters.
They shouldn’t be seen as someone you’d rather not have around, or need to have around, for the sake of the well-being of the room.
They shouldn’t be seen as the catch-all solution for any and all problems a chat room has.

But this is how it is to many users. To make matters worse, some people will judge and harass a mod just because they are a mod. They are no longer an individual to these people, they are an M. It’s actually a very similar preconception applied to users who have been deemed trolls.

To help explain what I think mods should be, I had written this extremely cheesy post a while back, listing and explaining many of the traits a good mod, and ultimately, a good person, should have.

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Topic: Kongregate / Cussing, Insulting, and Pornography Allowed

My response was quick, hollow, and unhelpful, but you did consider what I said and that’s really what matters.

I just don’t see the Kong staff making any major changes to the room system. Ever.

In regard to the first part, it was the hours you mentioned that were unreasonable. Excepting a person to devote at least 30 hours a week to modding the chat is madness. Most people who are mature and sensible enough to mod the chats are people with jobs or are going to college, which takes enough time as is.

Some of the other suggested changes were things that were already in place and removed (T icon and modcalls). People may not agree with the changes or the reasons for them, but the Kong staff are the people who were hired and paid to assess and make such decisions, so I’d think they’re more than qualified when it comes to weighing the negatives against the positives.

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Topic: Kongregate / Cussing, Insulting, and Pornography Allowed

“Additionally, give every room one Moderator who is active at least 6 hours a day, 5 days a week, preferably more.”

That is extremely unreasonable.

“so add a flag (like the M and D for Mods and Devs) to the account to say “This person was bad enough to be kicked from a room. If he starts trouble in another room, kick him again.” This should alert all users and the hopefully active Moderator that the user is problematic”

We already had this and it was removed.

“add a feature of room-locking. Since there’s no way to stop alts from being created and abused, cut off their means of accessing the chat room. Basically, no new usesrs would be able to enter the chat (including the troll alts), and no users would be able to switch into the chat room from other rooms. This would only be for a certain amount of time, but it would be unstated, specified only by the Moderator.”

I can’t even…

So basically, you want to give mods almost total control of rooms? You don’t see any potential problems with this?

Edit: I used to not agree with Kong’s general mod policy, but after a lot of time, I’ve come to see how their mod philosophies work and why they stick to it. I’ve already made several related posts in other threads, so I might go through them at some point and compile it all into a more presentable format.

Bottom line. Everyone is responsible for their own enjoyment of the site. Sure, not everything will be perfect all the time, and some people will want to ruin your day. Don’t let them.

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Topic: Kongregate / Cussing, Insulting, and Pornography Allowed

I have nothing to say that hasn’t already been said, but I’d like to +1 FlyingCat’s posts.

It’s hilarious how often I’ll see certain individuals cry wolf and then put on the wolf costume. They don’t seem to realize when you fight fire with fire, everything burns.

(This thread clearly didn’t have enough analogies)

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Topic: Kongregate / Can we change our usernames?

Can you change your name? No.
Can an admin change your name for you? Yes.
Will they? Probably not.
Is it worth asking? Sure, why not.

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Topic: Realm of the Mad God / Is self buffing really that bad?

Originally posted by Dragonturtle7:

There is no Edge, besides killing the boss faster… They are just a bunch of idiots :P

This. 100 times this.

The amount of damage you need to do in order to qualify for loot is almost always hilariously low (Usually just a couple of hits).

Doing more damage than the loot threshold does nothing to increase your loot (only known expection is O1), so buffing yourself is pointless in almost every situation.

The only time it would matter, is in a situation where the boss dies faster than you can do enough damage to qualify for loot (Common with Thessal, since OTs are so crowded she dies in less than a second), in which case, the boss will probably already be dead by the time you can run away from the group, buff only yourself, then get back in time to do any damage. Accomplishing nothing.

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Topic: Kongregate / That time I spied on Bowser's Castle for science.

Originally posted by VforVendetta:
I do think the results are very much skewed due to the nature of the room, the effect of afk mods, the season we are in…

…and that I was probably the majority of the mod activity.

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Topic: Kongregate / That time I spied on Bowser's Castle for science.

You suck at science and language. You’re gonna get an F-

Edit: <3

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Topic: Kongregate / [expletive] moderators and adminastrators

Serious question: What did they do?

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Topic: General Gaming / Anyone else playing Heroes of the Storm?

Originally posted by Psychatog:
Originally posted by Mousethecat:
Originally posted by Captain_Catface:

Got into alpha.
Didn’t try it, because MOBAs suck.

Specifically what about MOBAs makes them suck? (I already know the answer to that, but I’d like to hear your answer) Because Heroes of the Storm tries pretty hard to take most of the suck out of the genre.

Also, ITT: Too many cats.

Does Blizzard pay you by the letter or by the sentence?

They pay me with a game that is thoroughly fun and enjoyable.

Bumping this thread because the game is now in open beta, so anyone can download it and start playing!

If you need further convincing to check it out, did a good ~5 minutes video explaining what makes Heroes different from other MOBAs, and why it’s good:

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Topic: General Gaming / Non money grab games similar to Clash of Clans

Originally posted by Kazeelex:
Originally posted by uzzbuzz:

No need to derail, or bump.

Sadly, most games of that genre are pay2win, simply because that was what the design structure was built for (mobile/ftpmmo revenue). I could list dozens of city building games, but none would fall under no energy system.

That’s real disappointing. If someone figured out how to make a decent game like that where you could only buy cosmetics I think it’d be a real hit.

There’s a cyclical problem these games have to deal with. If a game is good, but doesn’t offer enough incentive for players to spend cash on the game (People are only willing to spend so much on cosmetics, compared to things that actually grant them benefits in game), the game will gain a user-base faster than it is able to generate the money to properly support the game and it’s user-base.

Realm of the Mad god is a some-what decent example, in that the original monetization philosophy was focused on making sure players couldn’t “buy their way to power”. Poor revenue and lack of interest in maintaining the game caused the original owners of the game to sell it. The new owners then implemented heavy P2W, and the player-base has suffered accordingly.

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Topic: General Gaming / Non money grab games similar to Clash of Clans

Originally posted by ninjaChameleon:
Originally posted by Kazeelex:

Are there any sort of apps, flash games, or console or PC games that have similar playstyles to Clash of Clans that don’t make you pay to win, and don’t have much time wasted waiting for things to upgrade?


Why did you bump a post that was posted 15 minutes prior to your bump?

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Topic: Kongregate / An interview with Mateo4 (Kong Moderator)!

Originally posted by zhs0O:

Who cares about a random moderator and his boring life, please don’t talk to mods or admins and act like their best friends. Why do you care about a moderator? What’s so special about him? Nothing.

There is an alarming amount of salt in this post. I wouldn’t eat it.

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Topic: Kongregate / Idle games,What i think.

Care for an attempt at an actual discussion? Why are the idle games shitty? What would make them less shitty?

Posting a vague criticism does very little to improve the situation.

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Topic: Kongregate / Suggestion: hire more admins

I’d expect to see the thread posted Monday.

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Topic: Kongregate / Changes to Chrome?

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Topic: Kongregate / Konpanion Question

I remember Tukkun made a good post explaining his experience with implementing Kongpanions into his game. I’ll try to find it if I get the chance.

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Topic: Kongregate / K+ Kongregate

Originally posted by DonutKnight:
Originally posted by GeorGeKiLLeRx:
Originally posted by DonutKnight:

Go to sites that offer real money, they are many out there. Complete some offers and gather points then redeem you reward.

Wrong answer given.

Whats the right answer then?

The original question was asking for a way that involved not paying anything, so telling him to do things that involve getting money and then buying it, doesn’t exactly fit the criteria.

As far as I know, besides what FlyingCat said, the only other way to get K+ completely free, is by becoming a mod.

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Topic: General Gaming / Come play Vorp! before its shut down!

Originally posted by legendarypb2:

What is Vorp? T_T

Vorp! was a Unity game that was hosted on Kong. It was a little MOBA with spaceships. It was actually a pretty fun and solid game, the fact that it was taken down after such a short run made me kinda sad. I think the game had good potential, it just didn’t get the attention it deserved.

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Topic: Kongregate / Selling out?

Originally posted by rinky999:

I’d say a sensible business wouldn’t milk their whales dry.

In the case of Kong, I’d say they just bought the milking machines, left them unattended except for the occasional visit from the maintenance-worker, and the cows/whales/whatever hook themselves up as they please.

Point is, Kong isn’t forcing anyone to spend anything. People spend of their own volition, and usually people with disposable income aren’t complete morons.

Part of the reason we’re able to have so many free games, is because some people out there are actually willing to pay for them, unlike the majority of players now-a-days who want everything for nothing.

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Topic: Kongregate / Selling out?

Obligatory: Oh, it’s this thread again…

If you’re going to blame anyone, blame the game developers for making games and trying to make a reasonable amount of money from them. It’s not like Kong is making these games, they just promote them to entice people to play them.

And if “The way of the future” means “People can play many games without having to pay first, then decide later if they want to pay to gain the other features/bonuses/ect…” then yes it is, and it’s been that way for years. Micro-transactions are a good business model, if they weren’t, you wouldn’t see it so often.

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Topic: Kongregate / Seriously, Kongregate?

As far as I know, you get that same “we’ve taken action” message regardless of how much action was taken. It’s very likely that that user was actually banned.

Standard protocol is to ban users who post direct links to material like you described. If there was a different outcome, then there’s probably more to the story.

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Topic: Realm of the Mad God / How Do I Make Money?

There isn’t really any money in this game. You could be talking about 1 of 2 things.

Gold: The premium currency, is only obtainable as a real-money purchase via Kreds.

Stat potions: The main trade currency in the game essentially acting as money. Stat potions are found by killing gods in godlands or from dungeon bosses.