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Topic: Serious Discussion / The age to appear in porn is 18, but the average world age of consent is 16

Originally posted by Jantonaitis:
Originally posted by Aleazor:

There are a lot of people who would like to justify pornography as a liberated woman’s independent choice, but as we all very well know, these girls are seduced by the money, drugs, and empty promises of scumbags who want to exploit them. No matter how we dress it up, there is nothing classy about being a whore. The laws are in place to keep girls from prostituting themselves before they are old enough to fully realize the serious ins and outs of the industry.

http://www.thefword.org.uk/blog/2005/11/suicide_girls_e

Suicide Girls’ exodus

by Jess McCabe // 23 November 2005, 09:32

Ya got anything a little more recent?
Sure, things a decade ago weren’t rosy.
But, there’s newer issues wrought from those old ones that require attention.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The age to appear in porn is 18, but the average world age of consent is 16

Aleazor, would you then see a much greater need for monitoring the industry; esp. in this area?
Linda Lovelace of Deep Throat later expressed her experience as being the very points you mention.
“Linda Boreman’s allegations[edit]
In her first two biographies, Linda Boreman characterized having made the film as a liberating experience; in her third and fourth biographies, both of which were written after she had come out with her stories of sexual abuse, rape, and forced prostitution in the porn business, she charged that she had not consented to many of the depicted sexual acts and that she had been coerced to perform by her abusive then-husband Chuck Traynor, who received $1,250 for her acting. She also claimed that Traynor threatened to kill her, brandishing handguns and rifles to control her.”

You bring up “being a whore” as being “nothing classy”. Are you against prostitution of any sort? Of course, were it to be legal & well regulated, what age would then be appropriate for such work?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Communism Vs. Capitalism

But, a “myth” that is well propagated by a very large amount of ppl just the same.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun issues updates

Originally posted by thijser:

By the way vikaTae I thought about how you could improve the wrist detection system: in the Nederlands they are currently running tests using camera’s that detect aggressiveness in voices, these camera’s turn on when someone is being aggressive close to these camera’s.

LOL, I can see doggy shock collars that control barking for ppl.
Elevated, angry, aggressive language AND….ZAP, tased.
But, maybe not such a bad idea in some cases.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Corporal Punishment

Originally posted by vikaTae:
Originally posted by Kasic:
It would have been a far simpler solution if they were allowed to grab the kid’s arm and wrestle the lighter out of the kid’s possession without ending their own career in the process.

That’s far different than corporal punishment.

Not really. It still comes under the header of staff may never cause physical damage to a kid ever. No matter the justification they think they have in the spur of the moment.

Then that form of guidelines for staff over children is a few sandwiches short of a good picnic, too. That certainly shouldn’t be considered relevant to the discussion of corporal PUNISHMENT. There was no punishment involved. the physicality was a matter of IMMEDIATE safety.

don’s example of punctuating a corrective measure w/ a SIMPLE, non-“lethal” swat on the behind is very akin to what I’ve stated as being well within the realm of reasonable. Something that has to be considered there is the psychology involved.

For the swat to have any real impact importance to the child, it has to be associated by the child as an event of some level of negativity. If there isn’t really any pain, where is the negativity? I’m NOT saying there has to be great pain; just something more than what the child would perceive as dirt being brushed from their clothes.

The lesson learned, if there actually is going to be even a hint of one learned, is going to come from the rarity of the action imparted by the parent; and more importantly, the perceived, by the child, demeanor of the parent as they give that swat.

That body language (& intonation of the voice) is something that is easily learned by the very young. If it isn’t taught well, what can one expect of a child’s behavior? Likely just a life that is fraught w/ all hell breaking loose at any given, unsuspecting moment.

A child at an early age develops a capability to know the differences of approval & disapproval by their parents of their actions.. THAT is what should be focused on, the swat is merely the rim shot.

The swat should cause the child see that the situation was very serious & to think about & remember the incident that led up to the swat; not focus on the horrors of a “beating” as the prime preventive for incorrect behavior.

 

Topic: Serious Discussion / Mcdonalds Employee (Advice Please)

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Corporal Punishment

Originally posted by RollerCROWster:

hitting kids is good because it builds character!!

i think ppl should it kids more bkuz then they will have more character

parents should grind their kids character value to lvl 100

Oddly enough, CROW, ya really aren’t all that far off.
At least this is the opinions I often hear from my the generation above me.
There certainly wasn’t this psychological fuzzy-feel-good attitude back in their day.
No, the “spare-rod-spoil-the-child” was the norm.
There were many stories of: dad would tell me to go cut a willow branch and if I didn’t bring back one he approved of, he would whip me w/ that one and send me back to get a better one and whip me w/ that one, too.

Perhaps I’m saying that there is a very strong precedence for the child “SPANKING” crowd?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun issues updates

If we apply to guns the same efforts we have to a lot of things, I have no doubt that we will be able to come up w/ some ways to have much greater safety involving usage of guns….eps. pistols.

Until then, for the safety of children, the trigger locks and combination lock boxes will have to do.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Corporal Punishment

Originally posted by petesahooligan:
And, YOU don’t do the same thing?

So much for trying to add anything substantive to the conversation with Karma in the room. Karma, could you try at least sometimes to not be such a dipshit? I was actually agreeing with you. If you weren’t so hyper-sensitive to every perceived insult to your fragile ego, you may have noticed that.

LOL, I so luv how those who insult aren’t able to realize it is they who are usually the instigators and far worse at doing what they accuse others of being/doing. I certainly don’t (rarely?) use the language pete uses. I mange to clothe my bile in “soft words” like vika does. Otherwise, it likely will be deleted….DUH. Then there is Jan, LOL.

pete, if you so desire to take the high road by agreeing w/ me, WHY THE FUCK precede it w/ some dumbass clarifying statement that such agreement is an anomaly? “Although I maintain my personal dislike for KarmaKoolKid’s hyperbolic assault on ideas he doesn’t agree with, I fully support his position in this matter.”
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Originally posted by petesahooligan:

I’m happy to yield this awesome forum to Karma. Have fun, y’all.

Drama queen much?
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Speaking of drama queens:
Originally posted by Jantonaitis:
Ah it’s not so bad. His writing style and mammoth post-rants make it easy to just tune out his tantrums.
What a pot-stirrer this child beater luvs to be. LOL
It’s odd how he so often touts the lack of merit for reading my posts; yet does enough to believe he can make meritorious assessments. What is even more odd is how obsessive he is about me.

Oooops, I must stop this carrying heated bitches from thread to thread because Jan vehemently disagrees w/ me about how to live my life and isn’t at all ashamed to make a complete ass of himself in doing so. LOLOLOLOLOL
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Originally posted by Kasic:

Yes, Karma will carry things from thread to thread and forever beat you over the head about them if you ever try to disagree/criticize him.

A weeebit hyperbolic there, aren’t we? I wonder why. You certainly are much smarter than that.

As you state it, it lends an easy assumption that such is my constant modus operandi: “…if you EVER TRY to disagree/criticize him.”

I’m not like some dipshits who will keep a library of things they are “offended” by so they can use them later. Why did YOU not jump in and chastise Jan when he said he does? Why do you not similarly chastise him when he makes above comments. I don’t record things I find a bit off the bubble from being a saint. But, I’m able to know that your halo is a bit singed, Kasic, when it comes to such behavior that you’ve branded me with.

Hell, I can say the same about you. This is at least the second time you’ve carried from one thread to another this critique to beat me over the head with. Ergo, I can also say: “carry things from thread to thread….”. You and I sharply disagreed over Feminism. Do I carry any resentment from thread to thread w/ YOU? Why would I be such an ass to someone that I’m somewhere in the thigh 90 percentile in agreement with on issues?

If you wanted to “console” poor impugned pete, you always have the option of doing so in a shout or PM. All you are doing here is what vika does: piggy-back your insult on someone else’s. What, is there some kind of “safety in numbers” for giving validity to opinions?

Just a clarification here, posters actually do manage to disagree/criticize me. And, much the very same as I’ve seen YOU do, Kasic, I will hotly defend my point; especially when it is against bigoted, prejudiced, unjust actions against innocent ppl. Ppl who manifest such behavior as thinking it is okay to BEAT children and wives most definitely will taste my scorn.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Communism Vs. Capitalism

But…but…but…
CROW, I would scape up some extra money to ensure a doctor set the broken bone in my leg rather than the dishwasher do it.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun issues updates

Huge LOL, CROW.
That one is at the top of your schtick offerings.
Reducio absurdum at its finest.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Shooting/Riots in Ferguson, USA.

Don’t give CROW much credence for his opinion. He’s somewhat SD’s muse. It’s my understanding that Roman generals would have a muse at their side whose specific goal was to contradict them….be a “NO-man”. These muses did so w/ impunity.

Originally posted by Aleazor:

karma,
Albuquerque New Mexico. I just thought you might find it interesting. I did.

LOL, I must have been morphing Alberta & Quebec. I didn’t even read the text; that would have “helped”…..obviously.

But, while the video just wasn’t clear enough for me to ascertain whether the shooting was justified or not, it certainly appeared the police strongly held the upper hand in that situation. Please note, when someone turns their back to you, they well might be drawing a weapon from their front with which to be able to fire it IMMEDIATEDLY upon it becoming visible as they turn around. Such a maneuver results in the shooter having that split second of advantage due to the time needed for you to react to seeing it….as it is now being fired at you.

Sure, this would require the shooter being able to effectively hit w/o aiming. But, would YOU be willing to take the chance of dying because someone wouldn’t comply to simple orders given by several guys w/ serious firepower and a dog?

Speaking of the dog, typically it is used as a form of bait. A person will likely reveal their weapon upon a dog sinking its teeth into their arm or even approaching. The dog hadn’t yet even reached the guy. That alone would indicate there had to be some very strong reason to shoot the guy when they did. Plus, it appeared they shot tear gas at him. I don’t see that as being very tactically sound. In the open like that, it really isn’t going to produce very good results. BUT, it does create a smoke screen that, to some degree, screens the guys movements.

Hell, maybe that is why the police did it; to help their case for a just shooting. After all, there was a 3 hr. standoff. Maybe the police was getting a bit pissed and that anger was involved in their decision to bring the situation to an end?

I’d like to know if that amount of time afforded them the information about his “violent past…even to the police”. Of course, they would have had to known his name. Did they even have that? What was the reason for a full assault team for some guy camping out in an area that camping isn’t allowed?

That would mean that no one was likely to be around; so there wasn’t likely any real immediate danger to anyone. The police would likely had the time to execute other methods for capture. Hell, the dude had to sleep at some point. During the wait, he might have either given up or a much more advantageous moment for overpowering him would have presented itself.

I well realize the amount of monetary resources such a “wait” would require. But, what kind of resources are now going to be expended investigating and already investigated police force? One would think the police force would make extra effort to prove they didn’t need to be investigated.

Since there is this “close ranks and protect the hive” among doctors, police, firemen, most any group that would benefit from not having its members “attack from within”. This doesn’t mean that lawyers don’t have at their disposal doctors that will testify against other doctors. But, groups where their LIVES depend upon trust of other members aren’t likely to do this. But, the police do have Internal Affairs and some have Professional Conduct departments.

I would think there would be some form of peer review committee, a state & national one, that would do its own investigation and present its findings. What would be wrong w/ those who should know a lot about such incidents weighing in their opinion? The police in general have just as much interest in protecting their reputation as does the ALCU has protecting the rights of civilians. And, neither of them know the truth; so any opinions on such incidents should be taken for what they are based upon the findings.

At least there are entities outside of the police that will investigate.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Shooting/Riots in Ferguson, USA.

I’m not sure of your point, Ale.
I certainly won’t argue that there aren’t police forces and specific members of them that are truly the farthest from being qualified to have right to deadly force. Or, I should qualify that as being: legal ACCESS to it in a manner that would appear to have very little oversight in some areas.

It is a fucking shame that in this time of visual scrutiny that some of the police will still resort to action that is highly questionable, if not downright illegal. Thank gawd a lot of ppl now have means to document police actions. L.A. has some serious issues there. I doubt it will get cleaned up any time soon. Likely not at all as long as the ingredients of wealth inequity keeps the pot boiling.

Just to be clear about your link, that was in Canada.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Communism Vs. Capitalism

I think the Scotts have long desired FREEDOM from a very arrogant overlord.
And, from what little I know of world history, such is what a lot of people wanted.
That the sun didn’t set on the British EMPIRE should give a hint that those ppl didn’t petition England for membership.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun issues updates

Originally posted by onlineidiot1994:

You do realize that the Bill of Rights was designed specifically to give people protections from the government, right? As such, the 2nd Amendment was established to ensure that militia were an available option for citizens to join for purposes of defense of themselves and the nation. They fought a war against people they saw as tyrants, and the precursor to the Continental Army was a collection of colonial militias. The idea behind the 2nd Amendment was to safeguard the people’s well-being, against any threats internal or external.

This being said, in an ager where multi-million dollar pieces of hardware are the standard in militaries throughout the world, a small band of riflemen isn’t enough to do much damage. Any militia that exist in the US today would find themselves sorely outmatched, even on their home turf.

Nicely stated, oli.
Especially the point that the “pry-from-my-cold-dead-hands” ppl should really just shut up about how that part about protection from a govt. gone awry is a valid reason for owning slaughter machinery.

The seem to believe that the entire country will rise up together to fight “the govt.”. What they forget is the Revolutionary history. Not all citizens were Patriots. There were Tories.

Not all citizens are going to bear arms against the govt…..for various reasons.
Those that do won’t be at all effective; in fact, will likely do more harm than good.

Sensible ballots are much more effective than bravo-bullets.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun issues updates

Originally posted by jhco50:

I think you are missing the point of the 2nd Amendment. The idea was to make sure the people were as well armed as the government, allowing the people to re-establish the government when it no longer was of the people.

Whose idea?
Where are you getting this information?
Were you there when this amendment was being debated?
What explanations of it from those who drafted it are available?
Or, is all of such interpretation of the 2nd merely by those who opt to see what they want?

I agree that over the years THE SUPREME COURT has made interpretations of the Constitution & Its amendments. That is its assigned task. Is there some precedence you can cite where SCOTUS agrees w/ you about the “intention” of the 2nd?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Communism Vs. Capitalism

Jake, what you are failing to understand about the “assault” on BIG, B I G business isn’t abou businesses in general. I don’t think anyone w/ a decent understanding of politics & BIG business being in bed together would EVER entertain your position as being anywhere close to reality. Small-to-median businesses get fucked over just as do the American ppl by the “big ones”.

A prime example is the military-industrial-congressional:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military%E2%80%93industrial_complex fuck-over the America is getting. Will you actually read the link? Or, do ya think ya already know it all and don’t need to learn anymore about the ideology you currently hold?

“The military–industrial complex, or military–industrial–congressional complex,1 comprises the policy and monetary relationships which exist between legislators, national armed forces, and the arms industry that supports them. These relationships include political contributions, political approval for military spending, lobbying to support bureaucracies, and oversight of the industry. It is a type of iron triangle. The term is most often used in reference to the system behind the military of the United States, where it gained popularity after its use in the farewell address of President Dwight D. Eisenhower on January 17, 1961,2 though the term is applicable to any country with a similarly developed infrastructure.34

“The term is sometimes used more broadly to include the entire network of contracts and flows of money and resources among individuals as well as corporations and institutions of the defense contractors, The Pentagon, the Congress and executive branch.5 A parallel system is that of the military–industrial–media complex, along with the more distant politico-media complex and prison–industrial complex.”

“A similar thesis was originally expressed by Daniel Guérin, in his 1936 book Fascism and Big Business, about the fascist government support to heavy industry. It can be defined as, “an informal and changing coalition of groups with vested psychological, moral, and material interests in the continuous development and maintenance of high levels of weaponry, in preservation of colonial markets and in military-strategic conceptions of internal affairs.”6 An exhibit of the trend was made in Franz Leopold Neumann’s book Behemoth: The Structure and Practice of National Socialism in 1942, a study of how Nazism came into a position of power in a democratic state."

Do you not see the flaw in your bitch about not regulating BIG businesses, partially through taxation, partially through solid regulations—one of the other major pitches pitched by “them”?
Did you not read how “they” have a media branch to help promote them in their endeavor to be rich/powerful?

You are letting some words that are buzzed by that media to distort the reality of it all.
You don’t like the tenets of REAL socialism because “they” have basically “told” you to not like it….via their finely crafted LIES tied to half-truths piggy-backed on personal interests that typically are the domain of “conservatives”: guns, religion, hatred of “that 47%”, social programs, etc.

If enough of us “little guys” had any sense, we would DEMAND that our basic interests be represented instead of those of our Overlords of Commerce.

How many times must I tell you that the govt. is largely a puppet of the wealthy w/ their corporations doing the actual pulling-of-the-strings? None of “them” give a shit about you and your life. They see you the same as a rancher sees his livestock….a means to an end, the making of money. A good rancher takes good care of his livestock.

Bad ranchers will cut corners everywhere they can. They really don’t care how shitty their product becomes as long as the public will buy it. Upon taking these tactics to drive the price down so they can corner the market and still make a hefty profit because of extremely low overhead, his competition has to use the same shitty tactics to compete and stay in the game.

Hence, most anything you buy today comes from China.
The American worker is screwed and needs some form of “assistance” just to survive.
And then, YOU look down on them because they are on the dole.
Idiots tell them and other unfortunates to “pull yourself up by your bootstraps”;
“if you are willing to work, there is a job for you”;
“you can be anything you want to be in America”.

I call a lot of Americans: mushrooms.
They are kept in the dark and feed a lot of shit.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Corporal Punishment

Originally posted by petesahooligan:

Although I maintain my personal dislike for KarmaKoolKid’s hyperbolic assault on ideas he doesn’t agree with, …..

And, YOU don’t do the same thing?
In fact, ya up the ante by calling me childish names.
Take a good look in a mirror sometime.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Corporal Punishment

Originally posted by onlineidiot1994:
And last but not least, children who get beaten too often may have problems living a self-determined life. Which should be the goal of every education.

You seem to be of the mindset that laying hands on your children in any matter is automatically full-fledged assault.

Perhaps there is a misunderstanding here on your part. Getting BEATEN is assault, be it full on (whatever that is) or a milder form that is a mere mild slapping on the face. YOU seem to be of the mindset that a child should “face the music” for a punishment that is a simple, yet forceful, slap or 4 across the face. Or, more traditionally, bend over (a table, etc.) with pants down, or not, and take a few quite forceful “swats”.

Infliction of physical pain (who knows the level of emotional involved?), via corp-pun is considered to be cruel & unusual by our Constitution. Yet, we tend to be okay w/ the “entry level” of such punishment if it is done on the very IMPRESSIONABLE minds of children. Go figure.

Are we saying that we can beat our kids right up to a very ambiguous threshold where any real lasting “damage” would begin? Isn’t this like saying about the evils of masturbation causing blindness: I’ll do it to the point that I merely need glasses?

Isn’t it a bit risky to be playing psychologist w/ your child? Please tell me, how does a typical parent know where that threshold is? How do they even know the true impact that impacts have on their child? It is said that a patient who teats them self for a serious medical condition has a fool for a doctor.
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Like it or not, that’s how the world works. Better to prepare people for this sooner rather than later</blockquote. This is not the necessarily true. Merely your opinion.
Are you a trained mental health field professional?
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As far as self-determination goes, what? What if I determine that I want to kill people for a living? Is this entirely acceptable to you?
Seriously?
You are going to run w/ that reductio ad absurdum shit as a cogent point?
I’m not going to waste my time to rebut it.
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You also teach your children, that problems can be solved with violence. Once grown up, this is a quick way to end up in prison.


A lot of problems can be solved with violence, though…

I don’t think that is the debatable point.
The point is the worthiness of such use of that method; esp. on children.
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Maybe your culture doesn’t respect how some people settle their differences, but I for one applaud anyone who is capable of ending a situation, even if it means throwing a punch.
Why do you automatically assume that a culture that strives to be violence-free doesn’t promote respect for how some ppl settle their differences? Do you not know that a FIRST throwing of a punch is illegal? THAT is your full-on assault.

If you mean that such is the way that should be afforded ppl who want to do so in a legal manner, let’s allow them to go to a state sanctioned boxing, MMA, jousting, stoning, etc. area where proper paperwork is signed and state approved referees manage it up to the agreed upon level of harm/injury; then let these hot-heads have a go at each others. Look at the revenue the state could make from it. Fools Freely Frolicking Forcefully.

Methinks upon a cooling of the head this really would happen all too often. But, as fucked up as some ppl are, maybe they would seek out other idiots and become habitually bruised and a dentist’s best clients.

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The problem is, that spanking puts a kid into the state fearful passivity. Which is commonly called “time bomb”, at least when directly translated from German to English. They are calm, but may explode any time and do stupid things.

If you calmly explain things to them and say “no” without ever swatting them in line, they won’t have any logical reasoning to respect your authority over them. I have to stay in time out? Or what? Don’t pee like the dog? Why not?

There is a huge flaw in your reasoning there (more as absurdum?). Those things calmly explained are actually the best method for teaching/imparting of knowledge about how life works. This includes a defining of the parameters of involved when rules are broken. If a child makes a MISTAKE and does wrong, calm corrective guidance is applied. We call this a good opportunity for a learning experience.

If a child willfully does wrong. This is obviously a much more serious situation; and, it STILL needs to be addressed in a calm, judicious, loving manner. It demonstrates that use of logical reasoning is what creates respect for your authority over them. But, you have it hugely misplaced if you think such teaching stops at learning the parents’ authority over them. The child is learning the entire general meaning of authority.

Are you saying that a parent should yell at a child while administering corporal punishment? How does a child rectify that particular model for problem solving isn’t legally okay as an adult? Aren’t you tacitly condoning “wife beating”?
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Like it or not, that’s how the world works.
And that something exists/is prevalent automatically makes it right?
Good grief. Your “logic” astounds me.
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Better to prepare people for this sooner rather than later.
I completely agree. Educate the child that such does exist in the world. AND, teach them the pitfalls of such idiocy. At least it’s worth a shot that this will promote a better world that might makes right and most things can be settled w/ the first throw of a fist.
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If they are having problems with someone else, physical violence is the way to resolve it.

A lot of times it is. I speak from personal experience when I say that sometimes throwing a fist is the best way to work out your problems with someone.

Please make it clear to me if it is YOU that throws the first punch; that it is you who ESCALATES a discussion of the disagreement to the level of using brute force to settle it.

And, if it is you that does the escalating, why do you not know that such is very possible to create a retaliatory strike at some later time when you least expect it? The assaulted person might not accept/honor YOUR solution for resolution of the disagreement. In fact, you have just created a new disagreement….your choice to use violence to solve it. Did the “other guy” agree that upon a certain level of hotly contestation be reached, fists could then begin to fly?

Do you not see that by opening the door to physical violence w/o such an agreement opens you to a participation of violence by the “other guy” that you weren’t aware of when you made YOUR decision to use violence on him? I’m saying, HIS participation might be in a manner a little more “stealthy” than your openly bravado way. Ever hear of: revenge is a meal best served cold?

Are you so arrogant as to believe the whole world will play by your rules?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Shooting/Riots in Ferguson, USA.

Originally posted by Aleazor:

All people should be treated equally by the law and by the Media. The Media is just as responsible for the riots as the rioters.

There are those who don’t like such a blanket catch-all term used to describe such publicly available information sources. But, since when does a few asshole “purists” make any real contribution to the huge mighty flowing river of human opinion?

“The media” is basically an utter whore of late. Probably always as been to varying degrees at different times for difference areas & different reasons. But, I would say that the one reason connecting all of them is GREED for money/power. Somebody is selling something. So, most of the media is simply advertising….eh?

I can’t say that I agree that “the media” is JUST AS responsible for the riots as are the rioters. But, I do believe that parts of the media do things that aren’t all that helpful. They pad a story a little here, omit a bit there, focus on one aspect a little too long, hire reporters w/ obvious biases. Hell, some outright “advertisers” call themselves news outlets. Fox News, et. al.

New outlets seems to be little more than a ringmaster at a circus.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Corporal Punishment

Originally posted by Aleazor:

Sometimes when I see parents disciplining their children in line at the supermarket, I get the impression that it’s a show, and there is absolutely no discipline or guidance at home.

Oh hell YES.
I really like “the countdown” or just the “count”.
In other words, fuck you mom/dad….I can CONTINUE to do “wrong” right up to the last number.

Here is a suggestion for the “counters”, put a price on it.
Make known the proper behavior stopped or started.
ZERO = do YOU hear me?
appropriate interval for comprehension & nod of compliance from the child that the message is heard, understood and is well underway to being apjplied.
1 = 1 hour w/o electronics
2 = 4 hours " " "
3 = 16 hours " " "
4 = 64 " " " " "
you get the idea; and so will the kid.

I also love the bitch that does the obligatory “yell” at here kids while not even looking at them or checking to see if compliance has been achieved. Ya know, kinda like how a husband “listens” to what his wife is saying. lol

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun issues updates

Originally posted by vikaTae:

I don’t know your normal name. I use Thijser because that’s the name you use on the forum. If you wish me to use your normal name, you will need to state for the record what your full name is. I don’t have magical access to your local electoral roll and to your ISP records, to work out exactly what the legal name of the person I am talking to on a forum, actually is. I can only go by the information they have made available.

So if you wish me to use your name, give me your full name, and I will use it.

Please, don’t be silly or smart-ass w/ the overly snarky dialogue. The guy simply asked ya to be respectful of his “name”. No need for there to be a vika-rant.

No one in their right mind is going to give out such info.
Well, I’ve heard that YOU did to Vannie.
Entertain the possibility that ya might have made a mistake w/ thijser’s name.
A simple typo I would say; not intentional.
It is a possibility for all of us to do so.
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Originally posted by vikaTae:

It gets a little old after a while Thisjer.

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thijser
And, the “t” isn’t capitalized.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Corporal Punishment

I wonder if there isn’t the “attention getter” form of a very, VERY mild physical application that isn’t intended nor viewed, even by the child, as some form of punishment.

I suppose this would fall into the area some on the forum has proposed as the “single swat on the bum”. There definitely are times that the behavior of the child needs to be addressed in a unfortunate situation that isn’t pristinely compatible w/ using the good, psychologically healthy concepts.

This might be considered a gray area…between a beating and a loving, gentle, non-physical method. And, if it is, how wide would it be? Sire, a person certainly can’t even begin to write a book that would cover every situation. But, that doesn’t mean that some general guidelines can’t be presented.

So, instead of a “Hit or don’t hit”, what kind of situations would there be where a mild swat on the butt or a finger-flick on the noggin or ear to impart to the child that they are near the edge where a more serious application of the non-physical genre is nigh?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Shooting/Riots in Ferguson, USA.

Yup, I think our “new-found” social quest to eradicate the vile, yet de rigor acceptance of, racism of the past is somewhat swinging the pendulum a bit too far the other way.

Yes, there needs to be a good blending of the “differences” where such differences are of little matter. But, as vika & I point out, there are those areas that most definitely need to be viewed for the important aspects they manifest, esp. in the health one.

But, do we really want all of our cuisine to be “one w/ the forks”?
I like the variety that separation of the ethnic/race/region/etc. affords in so manner areas/ways.

Obviously, some recognition of differences is a good thing.
Just as obvious, looking for idiot things as mere explanations for differences—that exist only in the “small-minded” or feed such minds, which yield no real benefit other than to promote bias & bigotry—is the makings of horrific hatred.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Shooting/Riots in Ferguson, USA.

Originally posted by vikaTae:<br
Unarmed people get shot by police all the time.

This has nothing to do with your claim that ethnicities don’t exist, so why bring it up?

Yeah, it did come from behind Jupiter. lol
But, Jupiter as the OP, does give his point some validity for being “tacked on”.