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Topic: Realm Grinder / So we got 0 new trophies in the last update Let me just suggest "A FEW" trophies because I'm hella mad.

I’m 15% into an Archwizard run and I’m below 4e9 mana produced. That’s 0.4% of 1T (e12). And Archwizard is frustratingly slow.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Maybe it is time to understand assistants

Ultimately what it comes down to is that once you have the majority of upgrades, there is no reason to differentiate building/click/assistant production upgrades. This is mostly important during the Research phase of the game, where all three types of upgrades are common and it may not be immediately clear why it is even mentioned.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / why_amihere's RG Speed Run Diary

Do you have a time estimate for how long R15 took? I remember it taking me several days, but that was mostly because I didn’t feel like doing semi-active LF runs (the 5-6hit ones). Your original 1.5h estimate blew my mind, so I’m curious to see how close you were. [edit] Of course, I only now realized you have a detailed report in the second post. Ignore question!

R16 was much slower for me as well, partly because I wanted to do it without the guide, but also because it’s basically an extended R15 considering it’s very hard to unlock Researches without being close to R gems. I’m not sure what fraction of time you’ve calculated for pre-gemming, for Research and for post-gemming.

For R16-R18, are you also aiming to unlock all Researches? I don’t think it was explicitly mentioned in your goals for the speedrun. I imagine you’ll get the “useless” ones automatically while aiming for better ones (e.g. A55 by offline spells via timewarp), but there’s bound to be a few more difficult ones that won’t pay off anyway.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / U Dwarf-Elves R30+ Build

I don’t think it’s possible for Elves to be competitive at this stage. Their major production boost is from Elven Luck, which benefits from click and assistant production buffs, but not from the number of assistants. At R30+ you have about 40-50 base assistants so Elven Luck only affects 2~2.5% of your production. Considering Elves are currently not very powerful at low levels either, their bad scaling with Reincarnations is just the death blow.

The major advantages of Elves, being easy FC gain and easy autocasting, become completely irrelevant in the R30+ range (if not R20+).

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Optimal build for Archwizard?

That is just absolute bullshit…

Are you really going to say comparing 141 to 152 is just as hard as comparing SxVgt to QaVgt? It takes literally 5minutes to get used to reading e numbers, because numbers between 1-1000 are used on a daily basis by nearly anyone. Those big numbers? I rarely use them despite my PhD in applied math, and I’ve definitely never used their full name. There is no point. That’s like translating numbers to french in otherwise english papers: you’re just making an unnecessary translation step that the majority of readers will just have to translate back again anyway.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Optimal build for Archwizard?

Trying it at R35 because I’ve got a ton of gametime this R from not playing actively. Sitting at e142 gems and using a build close to why_amihere’s suggestion. I have no way of reaching 5850 Goblin Banks before Drow, so I got all the optional mana/sec upgrades and skimmed out on production.

My biggest regret at this point is getting the non-unique upgrades suggested in many builds considering I have a base multiplier of nearly e6% for my Spider Sancts from offline time. Will take a long time for Hell Portals to catch up and by then I don’t think there’s much point.

Don’t think I’ll keep going until Archwizard, mostly because I rarely leave the game on these days, but considering I needed the final FC and Assistant trophies anyway I thought I’d give it a shot. Big thanks to why_amihere for the suggested build!

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Non Unique Dwaries

Originally posted by NiraTheCuteLoli:

Eh… Considering we have nothing left after R39, slow droblin or undrow builds are probably the most enjoyable way to do it right now.

Undrow is enjoyable. I’m at R34 or R35 (the one with e129 required) currently sitting at e141 gems. 24h Drow builds seem to give a steady xe3. I’ll just randomly keep pushing until I feel like getting the last few trophies.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Easter event bug?

Did you change timezones in the meantime, or were you always in France?

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / The enhanced production upgrade actually works!

They seem to independently increase over time as well. The first one is around e12% on its own by now.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / The enhanced production upgrade actually works!

Guys, stop complaining. You get a second upgrade after a while that fixes everything.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Dwarven and drow separate research

Think it would be a bit of an issue to create new parallel trees. Either you make them accessible to everyone, add new low tier researcher, boosting everyone in the process, or you make them exclusive to the prestige factions and you’ll just end up with really sparse trees.

I think the way they did it is fine. It clearly makes the prestige faction extensions of the vanillas while simultaneously allowing for more customization with old researches.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Suggestions for 12hrs Neutral? (D480)

Personally I’ll just run offline Faceless to get offline time and a minor boost to Hive Mind. The Offline time I can then use for an increased C250 so I can hopefully can get at least one of the Good 590’s done. Honestly, whoever came up with requiring an equal number of REs for Dwarf as for Drow is an idiot. That is a horrible idea and it doesn’t even fit the lore.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Evil is severely underpowered R30+ish

What bothers me mostly is that currently, a “Optimized Gem Grinding” topic for R30+ would look like this: e0 to R req: fairies.

Elves are useful if you want to save Excavations in your first run, but otherwise it’s just fairies all the way up. They come online quickly because you start with 30 Assistants at that point and they have a max mana upgrade for your spell combos. They’re the first to be able to step into Research (at e51 these days). They don’t slow down until at least e130 (and I imagine later, but I just haven’t reached that point yet). The only thing they’re not the best for is your FC run to upgrade researches, but you don’t even necessarily need those until much later. I got to e126 in R30 before unlocking anything.

At least before we cycled Elf/Demons → Dwelves → Titan/Druid → Fairy R → Goblin R → neutral R → Faceless R. Now it’s just fairies.

There was a random Elf nerf in the patch that I still don’t understand. Elves haven’t been useful since R7, aside from optionally the first two runs after Resurrecting. All the other races had their place at some point before the patch. Elves’ only claim to fame was the Moonshine build after their 3rd challenge, which is exactly what got nerfed. The second patch in a row to destroy any possible competition for the LF build. Now the majority of the game revolves mainly around Fairy skills, both in LF and in Dwairy research.

I don’t expect (nor want) perfect balance, but currently you could remove half the factions without affecting gameplay.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / A Weasel's museings about Mercs

I loved the Merc expansion; the issue with is that DG went out of their way to make sure only LF remained viable. Research was better in that regards; the Optimized Gem Grinding topic shows how most Factions find their use during the different Research phases. Since the patch that has drastically reduced too, since you can now play Fairy from 0 to e129 gems getting you to at least R35 without issue.

[edit] Second issue: the skill picking interface needs improvement.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Possible Prestige Spell Upgrades

To be honest, I’d settle for a false start similar to Brainwave for Combo Strike, just so you don’t always have to start from scratch.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Does anyone actually use Drow over Dwarves?

why_amihere hinted he used a Drow build during the beta in R34 I believe. I’m currently in R34, e117, getting various researches and trophies. Just started a Drow/Undead build (with zero buildup) and it’s making progress immediately, just nowhere near the rate a Dwairy build still would at this point. Dwairies have gotten me to e129 with ease on R30-33 so far, so I don’t see how a Drow build would ever fit into this.

That said, I think Drow is in a good place now. With the addition of A480 and A590, I think Drow can be very strong for less active players. Personally I’m already bored with the new patch because I’ve just been grinding Elves and Fairies. That’s a silly thing, so I’m going back to my pre-patch long idle builds and Drow are pretty good for that.

I think the main things required for Drow to be less frustrating is some carry-over between Reincarnations. Like, 10% of your highest R offline time is carried over as a starting value for each R. Because now, Drow requires multiple days of offline time… every R. That’s just silly when Rs can be done in about an hour with semi-decent Dwarf builds.

To be honest, I’d like to see more carry-over of stats in general, both between abdications and between Rs. I couldn’t be bothered to do buildup runs for 11GBs knowing that I’d have to redo them every R. Not really rewarding gameplay. Same goes for that 10M clicks this game nonsense. That’s over 12hours of just letting your game run, no planning, no optimization, just pick Elves and Elf bloodline, set Moon Blessing on autocast and go away for 12hours.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / I can't get 3250+ dwarf artifact any tips? I'm at R34 ( 1e129 gems ).

I did both at R30, with some strongly boosted stats due to the pre-patch idle run (70k% Drow, ~3m% A55 pre-patch). Pushed up to e126 and got Dwarf, then an offline Undead/Drow build and a night offline for the Drow artifact.

Small trick to “skim” excavations is to export → max excav → import. If it didn’t find the artifact, invest current gold in extra production and wait. If it did find it, try to narrow down which excav found it so you don’t waste too many. I got Dwarven in 110 or so; if I had done 2x 100 excavs I probably wouldn’t have been able to get Drow.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Surprisingly strong build, R34

That’s what I had been doing before, but it’s really starting to rack up. Currently at R33 my D150 is around 48k, or 6k per faction. Per TC (taking E145) that’s 360e3 per TC and just R529 requires 148e6. That’s 411 TCs required. I think I can get around 2200mana regen on Angels, which means about 15seconds per level.

Actually that’s not so bad. Thought it was a lot slower last time. Guess there’s no problem then. Thanks, Nira!

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Stoic Resistance

Originally posted by Fernet07:

How does the benifit of prestige research work?

Any faction capable of Researching (currently everyone except Mercs, if you have unlocked all of it) gets the raw production bonus from Research levels, even before buying their Unique Building. Check the tooltips for the boost. Before the patch, getting the prestige faction could reduce your production if you weren’t able to immediately afford all prestige skills. Now, once you’ve unlocked Prestige Research, those factions also get a massive boost long before getting the UB.

So now you can easily go into prestige on your first run at R30+. Makes Stoic Resistance relatively easy with any Good faction. I did it with Angels at R33 in about 1,5hours.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Surprisingly strong build, R34

Are there any late-game Researches that tremendously boost FC gain? The hardest part of R30+ runs has been to increase Research levels. Basically I go up to R-requirement gems and do a final run with E290 to get enough FCs. Feels a bit backward.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Surprisingly strong build, R34

It has both C80 and E80, so it has to be.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Surprisingly strong build, R34

Right, just checked, A400 does indeed change when you go into Dwarf. Bummer!

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Surprisingly strong build, R34

Even at R30, Dwairies are incredible. 5min runs focusing Forges work really well, long run is unnecessary for R30-R31. At R30 I don’t have many good choices in the D tree, so D200 with A25 seems pretty decent.

[edit] Quick check: A25 with D200 and D330 and around 10k max mana pushes the value up to 820k% which is about x16 from the base 50k%. For me, the alternatives would have been about 200 assistants from Vivification (x2) and D55 (which of course is really strong after a few minutes). Not great, but not bad for quick runs.

Reminder for people dropping into this topic: get A400 BEFORE becoming Dwarf. The Fairy BL is much stronger than the Dwarf one.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / Something a little bit annoying here...

Honestly, clicks are much worse than spell casts. They are an irrelevant part of the game after R3 or so. I hate using an autoclicker and the passive clicks from MB & Elfline are slow.

I’m glad they decided to minimize the necessity of clicks and I’m a bit annoyed they now introduced the Research requirement.

 
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Topic: Realm Grinder / [POLL]What would you like to see next on Realm Grinder graphics preview?

My only wish is that the patch doesn’t coincide with the Easter event. That’s what happened during Valentine with the new artifacts, making them much too easy to get during that period.