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Topic: Serious Discussion / A Way To End All Crime

At that time you would either walk off the cliff, walk into the water, walk into the wall or other object.

If you were about to walk off a cliff, wouldn’t your subconscious stop you as a matter of urgent self preservation?

The wall is more interesting. So a question to vika. Suppose you were walking across a plain, and came to a wall. It extends as far as you can see, with no obvious way round it or over it. Does your subconscious just give up, or it it still beavering away in the background while you think you’re dreaming up imaginitive ways to deal with the problem?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Should shark fishing be banned?

It’s not just the Chinese who eat sharks. I used to be partial to rock salmon, which was a cheap and popular fish. But declining numbers due to overfishing mean it is now quite hard to find and rather expensive. Almost the whole fish is edible.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / A Way To End All Crime

It doesn’t mean that the person involved had no influence on creating that scenario where the outcome was going to be that (the feedback system of the conscious mind) and that they had no control whatsoever in picking an action.

A while back I watched a tellyprog (probably BBC Horizon, but not sure) in which a group of students were sent into a gym where a toy helicopter was being flown. They were told to enter the arena one by one and catch the helicopter when the power was turned off.

They all had different theories on how they did it – some thought it was all about speed, some said mental focus and so on. They were all wrong. The headcams they were wearing showed very clearly that they all picked an area of the wall and then kept the helicopter in view between themselves and their chosen patch of wall. None of them got it, not one. So they thought they were making lots of decisions, but actually those decisions had no bearing on what their brains were really telling them to do.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is it right to kill one person to save the lives of many?

Karma, I remember images like that as the real thing. Some of those bomb sites made great adventure playgrounds. It took 20 years to make a major impact on clearing up after the Germans, and we’re still doing it. Still finding unexloded bombs too.

Vika’s argument doesn’t just apply to wars. NASA funding peaked when America was desperate to outdo the Russians and get a man to the moon first. After that the political will evaporated somewhat, despite all the benefits which have been derived from NASA projects.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun issues updates

beauval, you asked about Americans being shielded from the utter horrors of war as a mean by which we can keep our “toys” on a sacred pedestal that causes a focusing on the more positive aspects of them.

Not really that, more that not seeing what guns can do until it’s too late enables morons, as in your video links, to treat them like toys. The ones who shot themselves deserved the pain, and were lucky they didn’t die. I was taught to use a .303 rifle by army instructors; they taught us not only how to use if effectively but to respect its power. Judging by your videos, plenty of Americans have never had that lesson. Some fairly graphic images from war zones might help to concentrate their minds.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun issues updates

Very nice, but it doesn’t really address the question, does it?

So, do you think that shielding the average American who’s never heard of the BBC from some of the grim realities of what war and weapons can do to the human body is a good thing or a bad thing? Or does it not make a scrap of difference either way?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun issues updates

I came across this short piece yesterday. Now while some may dismiss it as irrelevant, it did make me wonder whether being shielded from the reality of what firearms can do to people is allowing some Americans to kid themselves that their weapons are just big boys’ toys which can be used without any serious consequences.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Should we give children guns to protect them from school violence?

It was compulsory for two years. After that you could either stay in or switch to voluntary service, which meant weekly visits to the local Cheshire Home, which was probably much more worthy but not nearly as interesting for me. I was a painfully shy teenager, and the CCF helped to bring me out of my shell, so for me it was a positive experience.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Should we give children guns to protect them from school violence?

Fair enough, but I’m willing to bet those British programs weed out all the problem kids before they give them any firearms, and they probably give them more supervision than the typical American public school. That and they probably limit access to fire arms to certain times of day (they probably keep them under lock and key when not in use).

I was in the CCF for five years. The school had its own rifle range where we could use .22 rifles with live ammunition under strict supervision. We also had a large number of Lee Enfield .303 rifles, kept under lock and key behind steel doors in the basement of the school. They would have fired bullets straight through the sandbags and out the wall at the back, so we had to go to army firing ranges to use them under supervision from the regular army. They came from Elvis’ regiment, but were purchased long before he was conscripted, so there was never any question of anyone using Elvis’ gun.

We also had a working 25 pounder field gun, which could be used on the army’s artillery range on Salisbury Plain. I’ve fired some really big live ammo from some of the artillery down there.

There was never any possibility of kids with rifles getting out of control. The CCF is used as a character building aspect of the educational system, and as vika has said, firearms training is just a part of it. And it gives kids experiences they could not otherwise get. Going round a tank assault course is very exciting, but probably the world’s most uncomfortable ride.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Hezbollah human shielding in 2006.

I don’t think I can really add anything to that. HRW seem to have conducted a thorough investigation, and I can find nothing to suggest that the organisation is partisan in any way. I have no more evidence than Dershowitz has that HRW drew the wrong conclusions.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Hezbollah human shielding in 2006.

So Labayka, what do you want do discuss – whether or not they did it, whether it is an acceptable tactic, whether Israel is partly to bame, or something else?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / A Way To End All Crime

During the 18th century Britain formulated a series of laws referred to as the Bloody Code. This was partly a response to the number of thefts caused by the grinding poverty of the times, especially in inner city areas. The death penalty could be, and was, imposed for stealing goods to the value of one shilling, which even in those days was a paltry amount. Children as well as adults were hanged, yet these draconian laws had little impact on the crimewave.

In many cases, to reduce crime you have to look at the underlying causes, but that’s going off topic. History suggests that the death penalty by itself is not necessarily a deterrent.

If you are interested in this topic, keep an eye on what happens in India over the next few years. Rape has been treated as a minor crime for far too long, but due to a wave of street protests the government has tightened up laws, and at least four individuals are awaiting execution. There have been a number of highly publicised rapes recently, and there may well be more men on their way to the gallows soon. It will be interesting to see what effect that has.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / would a artificial human have rights?

If you’ve got any memory chips, I’ll take a few. And if someone builds an android, he’ll be needing some.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Parallel Universes

What do you guys think about this, how many parallel universes do you think you have created today alone???

Based on today’s experience, not many. Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / would a artificial human have rights?

…when the whites found the blacks, did they have equal rights??? No.

Some of them had equal enough rights to become Roman Emperors.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is Religion Outdated?

I meant, there’s no valid reason to claim, there’s 100% chance for religion to recreate.

It doesn’t imply that in 20000 years, we won’t abandon this system forever. Thus, it doesn’t imply thesis.

If we wait enough billions of years, then pure chance will see an entire generation of humanity who are all sceptical about relious beliefs. And then the next generation will come along and more true believers will be born, together with people like Hubbard and Moon who will see religion as a financial opportunity. New religions will be invented and old ones revived. The chance for religion to arise from nothing is 99.9 plus a lot more nines percent.

You’re not listening to vika, are you. Dreaming up stories is part of what we are, part of what makes us human. We can’t get away from that, and as there would appear to certain advantages to be derived from that, we probably don’t want to.

Now I can certainly see a situation arising where the whole world becomes like most of us in the UK – generally disinterested but at the same time pretty laid back about people who do want to be religious. But I really don’t see it disappearing completely ever.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / why did the government fake the moon landing?

Rebuked by a thirteen year old! Oh, the horror.

It’s a spoof thread Captain, and I was joking. The same thing goes for the bit about abducting rednecks too, just to make it crystal clear. I know the first moon landing was real because I watched it on television way back in 1969.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / why did the government fake the moon landing?

he is talking about the first moon landings.

Surely not, I thought he meant all of them. According to a bloke I was talking to in a pub after about 14 pints, they were all faked. I’m so disappointed. I thought it was all a huge NASA in-joke to see just how much they could get away with.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / should countries known for frequent human rights abuses be banned from international events like the olympics?

That remark was slightly tongue in cheek, but in all seriousness there are none of us who are whiter than snow in this regard.

Me and thee are old enough to remember when both the USA and the USSR boycotted the Olympics. It achieved nothing apart from making them look like spoilt brats throwing a tantrum. It would achieve much more if, say, we all boycotted the Saudi royal family and refused to buy their products. But that of course would hurt too much to contemplate.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / should countries known for frequent human rights abuses be banned from international events like the olympics?

Wouldn’t be much of an Olympics without the USA, would it?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / why did the government fake the moon landing?

So, what’s the explanation for a precision scientific instrument array having been built on the moon, one which it is possible to verify exists, if we didn’t actually go there?

Aliens did it.

They allow us to use them in exchange for being allowed to abduct rednecks. Simples.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is Religion Outdated?

There’re tons of people, who once believed and claim they don’t do it anymore. People are different…

I’m one of them. Perhaps I was born lucky, and my particular brain configuration allowed me to question and analyse, while others are more inclined to accept things at face value. Culture also plays a part – in many parts of the word your life will be forfeit if you dare to question your cultural superstitions.

Let’s kill the rest of people. What is left? Group who doesn’t believe in anything supernatural. Religion removed permamently.

No, religon removed temporarily, until the next L. Ron Hubbard announces that the best way to get rich is to start a new religion, and then proceeds to do exactly that, in the process filling the heads of a lot of gullible people with bullshit. You’re not dealing with the root cause which is that some people are wired up to believe anything they are told. Most of us are able to demonstrate an ability to accept conflicting ideas without even realising it.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is Religion Outdated?

So, Capt. Milksake, the $64,000 question. The people who will change the present social structure of America, if anyone does, are your generation. How do you see the future of religion in your country. Are the youngsters on-side with your indifference towards religion, or do you feel they are sticking to the old ways, determined to see religion remain at the centre of American life?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is Religion Outdated?

From my experience the USA has a very similar situation then the former GDR. Atheists in this country are tolerated, but nothing more.

There’s a wonderful irony there. After the days of Ulbricht when religion was tolerated and the USA was the great enemy, it looks like the GDR has now become just like the USA in this respect. I didn’t know that.

I am aware that admitting atheism would be the kiss of death to any presidential candidate in America, but if our experience in the UK is anything to go by, that will become less and less important; people will just lose interest in religion. Nobody cared about Tony Blair’s religion, and even his long term flirtation with catholicism was irrelevant.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is Religion Outdated?

I just ment to cast it aside for it has no use. people can still practice it.

But you’ve already got that. Practising religion is optional in the USA, same as it is over here. So what else do you want?