Recent posts by Blackdrazon on Kongregate

Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Nintendo allows "non-commercial" use of characters - How does this affect us?

It doesn’t affect us, because it applies only to Japan.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139223533&postcount=1

^The original source, which Forbes was quoting, while omitting that critical, but bolded, piece of information.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Idle game badges

I feel it does, so I’ll be more blunt: Greg doesn’t badge Idle games because Idle games make terrible badges. People higher up badge MMOs because it makes them money and they don’t give a crap about quality badges. MMOs are Kong’s primary revenue stream: idle games bring people in, but they don’t make Kong money like MMOs do.

You could say “They could force him to badge Idle games,” but apparently they don’t. I don’t know why, they just don’t – Greg’s explained the line as being “MMOs.” Maybe it’s company policy. It makes sense: so long as Greg maintains the bulk of badges as a quality system, people will be drawn to profitable MMOs through the badge system.

Do the shitty badges tarnish the image of the badge system? Yup, every time, you can read it in the forums. But by and large, people come back, because the badges are addictive, and better overall than the free-for-all at Newgrounds and whatever’s going on at Armor Games.

You can bet they’d force Idle badges if Idle games had profitable microtransactions. This comes down to money.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Idle game badges

Originally posted by player_03:
Originally posted by adv0catus:

The reason idle games don’t get badged is because they’re (generally) constantly in development.

If this was true, MMOs wouldn’t get badges either.

It’s important to keep in mind that Greg, the admin who makes the badges, doesn’t control which MMO games get badges. I believe he decides what badges they get once he gets his orders, so he can try to avoid this sort of thing, but the call on whether or not an MMO gets a badge in the first place is not his.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Badge of the Day Discussion

Royal Warfare’s up for a BOTD this week. Again? Just one week after the last?

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Upcoming Badges!

Originally posted by FlyingCat:

It’s a bit of a shame that All Hallows Eve passed a week before it came out though.

I have a feeling that may have been on purpose. After all, it has a Special Edition, and what’s the best time of year to sell horror games? (Actually, I considered picking it up myself, but maybe next year)

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Upcoming Badges!

Greg doesn’t choose which multiplayer games get badges, that’s decided by someone else at Kong and so, in the end, doesn’t go through this process.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Badge of the Day Discussion

I like Race the Sun a lot, I’ve got the full version even.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Upcoming Badges!

I believe the last time a badge was lost during a Quest, it was simply removed and left unreplaced.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / what happened to medals and those entry tickets?

It’s really up to sponsors whether or not Kong does promos.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Broken badges

It’s usually a good idea to just reload the game and load your save, since that’s when most games do retroactive reporting. (After you’ve taken a screenshot for reporting the missing badge, if necessary). In some games you visit the in-game achievements screen.

Still be nice if they’d report them properly in the first place, of course.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Upcoming Badges!

But that doesn’t make it a bad puzzle, that makes it a bad tutorial, at best. Because the game didn’t teach you how to solve a nonogram. I could walk you through that one no problem but plujan already said they would.

Really, without getting into advanced puzzle techniques (your so-called “bad puzzles”) the game throttles its own potential difficulty, though I do feel they could have taught the techniques.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Broken badges

Originally posted by explodingferret:

I’m pretty sure the game does tell you this… but it’s easy to miss if you’re just clicking through the flashy buttons at the beginning.

You’re right, and I was surprised to see it, because like 123aaa789, I don’t remember ever seeing it in the previous games! But it goes by almost in a blink for something so important.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / How do you think this site has changed in the last 3 years

Originally posted by adv0catus:
Originally posted by champion17:
Originally posted by adv0catus:
Originally posted by champion17:
Originally posted by adv0catus:

The site is way too focused on making paying users happy.

They are after all what brings in the money. Fair or not its business.

You can do so without alienating everyone else.

How do they alienate everyone else?

Game Messages (and leaving ghost messages unfixed for over 6 months).
Revamp forum design (and breaking scripts) for guild forums.
Revamp chat design for guild rooms.

But… Guild rooms are a feature used by paying players. And many of the Game Message glitches also hurt paying players. Sure, the existence of Game Message spam is in favour of paying players, but you didn’t list that, you listed glitches, and the glitches hurt everyone.

Frankly, I’m with Bobby, “Almost no change other than slightly more inconvenient site navigation.” Most of the truly substantial changes at Kong, and I’ve been here for six years, not three, have been developer trends like “Making more MMOs” and “Moving to smart phones and leaving flash abandoned.”

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Badge of the Day - Make it update automatically!

Plus, you’ll also the odd ad, maybe be reminded of That Game You Liked That By The Way Uses Kreds (not necessarily the one with the BOTD, either), all of which just sweetens Kong’s pot.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Salads I know that I want pasta

“Salads I know that I want pasta "

“help you start playing those meals right out there on the World Wide Web”

Is this a tacit ad for the next Papa’s game disguised as herbal medicine span? (Papa’s Herbal Supplements?) Viral marketing has ascended to a new level.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Most badges on a single game?

I suppose you could argue that games with both Kong badges and mobile versions of the same game with Kong Mobile badges might count.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Broken badges

Originally posted by bobby71983:
Originally posted by greg:

Yeah, I know. I was able to fix the easy badge by manually changing the old binary stat to the new “level” stat, but the stat being used for the medium badge is just not being submitted anymore, and there’s no equivalent that I can switch it to. I’m reaching out the the developer now about this. People need to stop changing API implementations in games with badges… :(

Do you make that clear to them when you badge a game, to leave the API alone?

This is late but I think it’s worth point out: what people are probably doing when the API disappears entirely is creating a separate Kongregate version that supports badges, then working on the original version for updates, and forgetting to add Kong back in to the “Kongregate version” when they apply that update.

Of course, because the Kong API is relatively unobtrusive, there’s not really any reason not to include it in every version of the game you make. You don’t need a “Kong version” unless you’ve got a deal with Kong, maybe because Kreds are involved. Generally, devs understand this and this kind of stuff doesn’t happen (after all, this thread didn’t even need to exist before 2012 because the number of broken games was so small. No MMOs helped, too). In fact, I’d say you’re far more likely to see devs leave stuff in and create problems that way. After all, how many totally obtrusive Newgrounds achievements have you seen on sites that aren’t Newgrounds? How many have you seen in games that already have an in-game achievement system and didn’t need Newgrounds’ drop-down menus in the first place?

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / New badge discussion

Originally posted by bobby71983:

Flood runner 4 is fine. Not the best in the series, but good enough for badges. Bit surprised you only gave it 1, though.

Apparently the dev never got back to him about adding stats for anything but score.

I suppose he could have put in more than one score badge, though.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Upcoming Badges!

Yes, the Best of… quests are decided by rating for most of the games and the remaining games are voted on from a shortlist of high-rated games provided by Greg. There’s no nomination process, and besides, this sort of thing is done in January or February the year after to allow ratings to settle and Greg to get back from holidays: we won’t be seriously discussing the Best of 2014 list for another 9 or 10 months!

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Upcoming Badges!

Originally posted by spirelot:

Wasn’t that hard. Medium badge was fair. And the hard badge was merely time consuming. I don’t think you could lose anyway.
Any ideas what’s next?

You can definitely lose, the disasters pick up over time until things become unmanagable. I need to try again and see if I can work out an upgrade path more like my speed game. Somehow in my speed game I had a level 12 Nexus in ten minutes but in my Endless game I had 16 points by the time my remaining civilization had been drowned and shoved off the edge of the map.

Major Drift, Earthquake, Major Drift, Earthquake, Major Drift, Flood from all the water squares you’ve been using for your Nexuses thereby blocking even more squares for buildings, Earthquake…

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Upcoming Badges!

Yes. On Newgrounds you could hypothetically badge a 72 minute recording of a fart noise, so long as you could get it past the blam process (you wouldn’t, but that’s not the point. The point is, Newgrounds badges mean nothing).

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / New badge discussion

Originally posted by uzzbuzz:

Pretentious Game 2 was all right. The badge did not award retroactively, but that was not an issue as I forgot I even beat it in the first place until the ending scene.

Exit path, did award retroactively so I don’t really have much to say on it. Seems that the hard was decided against, which is fine, but I’ll try to think of the other side, although I may or may not agree. Think of it this way: Puzzle games get hard badges for the people that enjoy playing them. Usually Greg pays no heed that it’ll be walkthroughable or already is, as that is not the point of badges. Likewise, Exit path’s badges should not have been made to cater around the people that used some kind of exploit. I am not sure how obvious, or what the background of the glitch or whatever it is, but it seems like a weak reason to not give it a badge because of that.

Edit: I guess I did have something to say…

Pretentious Game 2 does sort of reward retroactively: if you’ve beaten the game and haven’t started a new game since, hitting Continue will plop you back down on the final screen and reward the badge at once. If you have started a new game, your checkpoint will be wherever you left off, so if you start a New Game without continuing… Hopefully this post will warn someone before they start a New game without realizing.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Since copywrite doesn't exist on Kong...

Originally posted by The_Atari_Kid:
Originally posted by bobby71983:

brb uploading Learn to Fly 2, The Lost Levels.

Please upload Mardek Chapter 4 while you are at it.

I’ll one-up that. I’m uploading Mardek Learns To Fly as we speak.

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Games in progress?

I wouldn’t want Recommended Games to give me a game I have some of the badges from. I didn’t get those badges because I don’t care to play the game any more, after all! The recommended list is for games you haven’t played before – if you want to keep playing a game, use your Playlist. That’s what I use it for, in fact I’d go so far as to say that’s what it’s meant to be used for: for everyone who’s been “favouriting” games they want to go back to but don’t actually think of those games as “Favourites.”

 
Flag Post

Topic: Kongregate / Broken badges

But the Prince of Persia challenge wasn’t added automatically to people who already got the badge: they lost the badge, it was simply removed. I think they could get the challenge separately? But to do that you need the game to still be up, and we can’t throw up a points challenge for, say, Caesary, since it’s just plain gone. The only way to take down badges with the current infrastructure is to actually remove the badges from everyone who ever got them, ruining their effort.

Frankly I think all the badges need is a different tag, “listed” true/false, to remove the badge from the common listings and game page if it’s false and show it on profiles in all instances. But I guess that’s just not how things are built!