Topic: Wartune /
Guildmember Cooldown & Other Exploits Discussion
Quote KE: But here’s something, Val… and I brought this up before… what if your account was frozen because of it? Would you say to yourself, “Gee, I’ve been busted. I deserve the punishment,” or, would you say, “Imma fight this – file tickets and if that doesn’t work, stomp up and down, complain, backtalk and all the like.”? I assume you’d do the latter. But why? Down deep, you know this exploit was posted and yet you continued to, well, exploit it. Again, I point you to the CoC and the ToS, just in case you’d like to “put your fingers in your ears and go ‘lalalala’”. /quote
I never touched any part of the exploit KE. I argued for it’s validity in the game. I never used it from either end, leaving or accepting players. Further, the four of us who posted about the one time it did occur all agree that it was before this thread ever opened.
Quote KE:Don’t forget me telling you to quote properly (after being attacked multiple times first). It gets annoying to fix them when replying. I mean if you’re going to get in someone’s face about something, make sure you do it correctly as it makes your points more compelling. /quote
That’s just petty. Please, now find me a rule about this. If I give you another two weeks, I’m sure you can weasel someone in to saying what you want for a screenshot.
Quote KE; It was and still is rampant. All DB analysts have to do is look and see how many “covenant emancipations” were bought and cross reference how many guildmember transfers of less than 24 hours occurred. /quote
Now, watch this, your own words:
Quote KE: This sounds like the MPAA/RIAA, when faced with piracy, counting every illegal download as a lost sale. Sure, it’s great in theory and it brings some powerful numbers to the table – but anyone who has followed sales knows that a lost download does not equal a lost sale since a great majority would have never bought the item to begin with. This is the flaw in your argument – no one will buy the “covenant emancipation” that many times. /quote
quote KE: Originally posted by Valchrist1313:
The next post he decides to mock the guys spelling, as his main point, and drag me back in with some taunting.
Nice spin. You have responded to every post I have ever made in this thread. “Drag you back”. Right.
You reopened the thread for continued discussion, and your next post you call me out and demand proof. It’s there plain as day, until you go back and edit it out.
Quote KE: Spoon-feeding? Surely you jest. Rampant is accurate because if you sincerely believe that “6 people did it once”, you are sorely, sorely mistaken. No, delusional. /quote
Yet, when 5 well known people come together, and agree upon the one known occasion, you completely deny it happened, and will not accept the words of multiple players in favour of a hyperbolic (although obviously quite true) statement I made.
Quote KE: Originally posted by Valchrist1313:
Originally posted by atreylune:
So, it boils down to the issue here. Are you mad that there’s no way to beat BH or FH – because at the moment, there isn’t – or are you genuinely pushing the issue of helping weaker guilds? Because it really seems like the first to me, and I understand why you’d be annoyed by the first – it’s justified in a sense, because they really are unstoppable. However, trying to take the high path of “help each other” really doesn’t hold up to how game mechanics work.
(back to me)
You are absolutely right, and that makes perfect sense. /quote
Now, that is cherry picking a post alright, and it’s a fine example of the methods of moderator abuse you use. I was mainly agreeing with the rest of the post, but even this statement is true, per se; the entire point I was trying to make was that this ‘rule’ was taking away the one realistic opportunity there was to defeat a stronger guild. All your quoting is just some text between a lot of formatting commands. Doesn’t mean you can’t edit it, because obviously you did majorly edit that post.
This went to an R2 mod last week, and a kong mod yesterday.
juggalo, you did more flaming in a few short messages than happened on some entire pages.
There are still multiple places within the thread referring to the original ban threats, causing a schizm in the discussion. It’s still in some of the player’s responses, if you read between the lines. KE can be easily found to be a flamer, inciting people, insulting their intelligence, their spelling, and whatever he could pick away at.
The most interesting part of the tread to me is after it was re-opened. Take a step-by-step look at the proceedings. KE calls me out. I continue the discussion ignoring his flaming. I get jumped on saying it’s already been decided by an R2 mod’ (the R2 mod available only through Ke’s posts in kong, might I add), well yeah, okay but continued discussion on the ‘intrinsic merits’ which I keep to, except to answer Ke’s repeated demands. No matter the answer given, and by whom, it’s ignored.
Are we at 10 more times now that we wants a list of people? and yet when people come prove him wrong they are discounted. I’m not relying
on these people. I don’t know them. They came of their own accord and confirmed what I said. Atreylune said ‘all of Chaos could attest to that’. Is he asking for a list of every last member explicitly saying FH was the first and only known occurrence? No. He just wants to ignore the fact that he’s wrong. he wants me to provide a list of people, without relying on other people. It’s like asking for ‘the sound of one hand clapping’, as is asking for screen shots of what was removed prior to asking. It’s like taking quotes, cutting the pieces up and making it sound like i agreed to something that was obviously now well out of context.
He’s even demanding I type the way he wants me to type. It’s really quite insane.