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    <body>bq. Yes, unjustly locked by a newbie mod.

For the record, Gevock asked me what to do about that thread and I told him to lock it. Newbie mod? Really? Grow up.</body>
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&lt;p&gt;Yes, unjustly locked by a newbie mod.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;For the record, Gevock asked me what to do about that thread and I told him to lock it. Newbie mod? Really? Grow up.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>bq. And then wouldn&#8217;t that mean that they were A-sexual and reproduced on their own? Why change?

Because sexual reproduction leads to faster adaptation and survival rates for offspring?

Look, the origin of life makes sense - Just go read up on talk.origins.org. What doesn't make sense is why you are trying to drive home a point that is both irrelevant and incorrect.</body>
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&lt;p&gt;And then wouldn&#8217;t that mean that they were A-sexual and reproduced on their own? Why change?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Because sexual reproduction leads to faster adaptation and survival rates for offspring?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Look, the origin of life makes sense &amp;#8211; Just go read up on talk.origins.org. What doesn&amp;#8217;t make sense is why you are trying to drive home a point that is both irrelevant and incorrect.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/9/topics/63516?page=1#posts-1431876'&gt;Iggyshark&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How can we believe in such a right but not believe that people have the right to food, clean water, clothing and shelter?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;People who believe this exist?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;Possibly?&quot;:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck

Not to blast the guy any more than I do already, but I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of people (though I'd wager a lot of them are hardcore racists and from there springs the aforementioned beliefs) who don't think certain people should have such rights. 

bq. Why would marrying who you choose take precedence over the basic necessities for survival?

Because firstly, in America (are there any other nations where there's currently a prominent gay rights struggle going on?), most people have basic amenities already. As bad as it sounds, out of sight, out of mind - we never see Cholera first hand, so we take for granted clean drinking water. But we DO see protesters both for and against gay rights, making it much easier to concern ourselves with.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/9/topics/63516?page=1#posts-1431876&quot;&gt;Iggyshark&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How can we believe in such a right but not believe that people have the right to food, clean water, clothing and shelter?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;People who believe this exist?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck&quot;&gt;Possibly?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not to blast the guy any more than I do already, but I&amp;#8217;m pretty sure that there are plenty of people (though I&amp;#8217;d wager a lot of them are hardcore racists and from there springs the aforementioned beliefs) who don&amp;#8217;t think certain people should have such rights.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Why would marrying who you choose take precedence over the basic necessities for survival?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Because firstly, in America (are there any other nations where there&amp;#8217;s currently a prominent gay rights struggle going on?), most people have basic amenities already. As bad as it sounds, out of sight, out of mind &amp;#8211; we never see Cholera first hand, so we take for granted clean drinking water. But we DO see protesters both for and against gay rights, making it much easier to concern ourselves with.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/1/topics/42175?page=4#posts-1431824'&gt;MrRubix&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;I vote myself&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I heard &quot;he&quot;:http://www.kongregate.com/accounts/myself was a &quot;jerk&quot;:http://www.kongregate.com/accounts/fuzzybacon..</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/1/topics/42175?page=4#posts-1431824&quot;&gt;MrRubix&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;I vote myself&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I heard &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kongregate.com/accounts/myself&quot;&gt;he&lt;/a&gt; was a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kongregate.com/accounts/fuzzybacon&quot;&gt;jerk&lt;/a&gt;..&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>That's a proof surrogate fallacy, rain. Nice try. Go find a source showing that most or even a significant minority of gays act the way you claim. 

I suggest google.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#8217;s a proof surrogate fallacy, rain. Nice try. Go find a source showing that most or even a significant minority of gays act the way you claim.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I suggest google.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>XRainx, please reacquaint yourself with the SD guidelines. Please provide sources for your claims (if you can), stop harrassing other users, and act like you are actually interested in having an intelligent discourse.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;XRainx, please reacquaint yourself with the SD guidelines. Please provide sources for your claims (if you can), stop harrassing other users, and act like you are actually interested in having an intelligent discourse.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>They are, but you aren't preaching the truth any more than Glenn Beck is.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;They are, but you aren&amp;#8217;t preaching the truth any more than Glenn Beck is.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>It wasn't caused by nothing - claiming that shows that you do not understand the big bang, abiogenesis, or evolution, and given what you've posted in other threads xRainx, I don't think it's worth my time to explain them to you.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;It wasn&amp;#8217;t caused by nothing &amp;#8211; claiming that shows that you do not understand the big bang, abiogenesis, or evolution, and given what you&amp;#8217;ve posted in other threads xRainx, I don&amp;#8217;t think it&amp;#8217;s worth my time to explain them to you.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>You're a close-minded bigot. That's the only fact that has been revealed on this thread. You are attempting to justify your irrational hatred by pigeonholing a widely diverse group into ridiculous stereotypes to make yourself feel secure and it is incredibly childish. 

Grow up, xRainx. We don't appreciate prideful immaturity here.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;You&amp;#8217;re a close-minded bigot. That&amp;#8217;s the only fact that has been revealed on this thread. You are attempting to justify your irrational hatred by pigeonholing a widely diverse group into ridiculous stereotypes to make yourself feel secure and it is incredibly childish.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Grow up, xRainx. We don&amp;#8217;t appreciate prideful immaturity here.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>bq. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

No, but when there's nowhere left for god to hide, then what? God is running out of dark corners. 

bq. (and assume it&#8217;s correct)

That's quite an assumption to make there.</body>
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&lt;p&gt;Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;No, but when there&amp;#8217;s nowhere left for god to hide, then what? God is running out of dark corners.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(and assume it&#8217;s correct)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#8217;s quite an assumption to make there.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>bq. Is there are report feature in the chat like there is in the forums? That would be nice.

There's the profile report feature (&quot;Offensive Chat Behavior&quot;), but due to the sheer volume of reports, response is very slow. 


&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/9/topics/63398?page=3#posts-1431004'&gt;paradoxymoron&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#8217;d be nice to be in a chatroom where bad games or things aren&amp;#8217;t called &amp;#8220;gay&amp;#8221;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Try Ninja Chat - we're very strict about that, as are a number of other rooms.</body>
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&lt;p&gt;Is there are report feature in the chat like there is in the forums? That would be nice.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#8217;s the profile report feature (&amp;#8220;Offensive Chat Behavior&amp;#8221;), but due to the sheer volume of reports, response is very slow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/9/topics/63398?page=3#posts-1431004&quot;&gt;paradoxymoron&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#8217;d be nice to be in a chatroom where bad games or things aren&amp;#8217;t called &amp;#8220;gay&amp;#8221;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Try Ninja Chat &amp;#8211; we&amp;#8217;re very strict about that, as are a number of other rooms.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>Rockettgirl - I know it sounds harsh, but please keep in mind that the trolling concerns were raised mainly by moderators. 

I know, from experience, that the room will have troll troubles. I also know that as a moderator, it will fall to me (and the other mods) to clean up the crap that will ensue.

Please forgive us if a primary concern is the very real and very major issue of a dedicated LGBT room instigating the very trolling it was created to escape. I know that in the end, I or someone else in my situation will be called in to clean up the mess, and until the internet matures or we achieve a good level of moderator saturation, I'd rather not make the messes worse.

Let it be known that if it weren't for trolls, I'd be absolutely in favor of an LGBT room. But then again, if it weren't for trolls... what would be the point?</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;Rockettgirl &amp;#8211; I know it sounds harsh, but please keep in mind that the trolling concerns were raised mainly by moderators.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know, from experience, that the room will have troll troubles. I also know that as a moderator, it will fall to me (and the other mods) to clean up the crap that will ensue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please forgive us if a primary concern is the very real and very major issue of a dedicated &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;LGBT&lt;/span&gt; room instigating the very trolling it was created to escape. I know that in the end, I or someone else in my situation will be called in to clean up the mess, and until the internet matures or we achieve a good level of moderator saturation, I&amp;#8217;d rather not make the messes worse.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let it be known that if it weren&amp;#8217;t for trolls, I&amp;#8217;d be absolutely in favor of an &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;LGBT&lt;/span&gt; room. But then again, if it weren&amp;#8217;t for trolls&amp;#8230; what would be the point?&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>bq. PeytonTehBeast spamming in ARK &lt;333

For the record, all of his posts were deleted. Took me freaking ages. :S

bq. I think that if a thread is up for contention that besides being locked it should also be edited for content 

Yeah, we'd most likely go through and delete any posts that were hidden/deleted.</body>
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&lt;p&gt;PeytonTehBeast spamming in &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ARK&lt;/span&gt; &amp;lt;333&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;For the record, all of his posts were deleted. Took me freaking ages. :S&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I think that if a thread is up for contention that besides being locked it should also be edited for content&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Yeah, we&amp;#8217;d most likely go through and delete any posts that were hidden/deleted.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>So, hokage, an incredibly rare syndrome that affects only a handful of people males you reject the vaccine out of hand? If you read the article that you linked, at the end, the woman recommends getting the shot that paralyzed her.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;So, hokage, an incredibly rare syndrome that affects only a handful of people males you reject the vaccine out of hand? If you read the article that you linked, at the end, the woman recommends getting the shot that paralyzed her.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>bq. I don&#8217;t see why other rooms don&#8217;t need this.

They don't REQUIRE it. User-moderation is often good enough in the well-modded rooms (Like Ninja chat, on the rare occasion that there are no mods), and others are well on their way to becoming adequately modded. Right now, though, the low moderator saturation means we'll have to live without such a feature - an &quot;official&quot; LGBT room would require mods, or else get constant modcalls.

Also, for the record - as long as you aren't using the room as a dating site, or something like that (which we would object to regardless of your sexual orientation), Ninja Chat is usually kept pretty abuse free for people of all everythings.</body>
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&lt;p&gt;I don&#8217;t see why other rooms don&#8217;t need this.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;They don&amp;#8217;t &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;REQUIRE&lt;/span&gt; it. User-moderation is often good enough in the well-modded rooms (Like Ninja chat, on the rare occasion that there are no mods), and others are well on their way to becoming adequately modded. Right now, though, the low moderator saturation means we&amp;#8217;ll have to live without such a feature &amp;#8211; an &amp;#8220;official&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;LGBT&lt;/span&gt; room would require mods, or else get constant modcalls.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, for the record &amp;#8211; as long as you aren&amp;#8217;t using the room as a dating site, or something like that (which we would object to regardless of your sexual orientation), Ninja Chat is usually kept pretty abuse free for people of all everythings.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>bq. Yeah, I do use Windows 7 RC. Buying the official version soon.

The full version is actually much cleaner, IMO - I used the RC as well, and this just feels more functional. Granted, the RC was on my laptop, but still.

bq. Overall, it&#8217;s very glitchy.

It's a new feature which has glitches. Sounds like every new feature for every website ever made. And that automatically makes it stupid? I think you're making a bit of a hasty judgment on this. Give it time - I think that soon you'll wonder how we lived without the badge browser and related goodies for so long.</body>
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&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I do use Windows 7 RC. Buying the official version soon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The full version is actually much cleaner, &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;IMO&lt;/span&gt; &amp;#8211; I used the RC as well, and this just feels more functional. Granted, the RC was on my laptop, but still.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Overall, it&#8217;s very glitchy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#8217;s a new feature which has glitches. Sounds like every new feature for every website ever made. And that automatically makes it stupid? I think you&amp;#8217;re making a bit of a hasty judgment on this. Give it time &amp;#8211; I think that soon you&amp;#8217;ll wonder how we lived without the badge browser and related goodies for so long.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>As attractive as this sounds, such a room would not be feasible because it would require 24/7 moderation - And we're volunteers. I wish the internet were a mature enough place to handle things like this, but unfortunately, it isn't.

Until then, I suggest trying to mute the offenders. Hopefully one day they might give up.

Also, it would probably help (I have no idea if this is how you already act) if you didn't bring it up out of the blue - wait for it to be mentioned by someone else first and it will likely be better received.

Until the nature of internet anonymity changes, I suggest making a tinychat and using that. You can moderate it to your own standards, as a bonus.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;As attractive as this sounds, such a room would not be feasible because it would require 24/7 moderation &amp;#8211; And we&amp;#8217;re volunteers. I wish the internet were a mature enough place to handle things like this, but unfortunately, it isn&amp;#8217;t.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Until then, I suggest trying to mute the offenders. Hopefully one day they might give up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, it would probably help (I have no idea if this is how you already act) if you didn&amp;#8217;t bring it up out of the blue &amp;#8211; wait for it to be mentioned by someone else first and it will likely be better received.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Until the nature of internet anonymity changes, I suggest making a tinychat and using that. You can moderate it to your own standards, as a bonus.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/2/topics/63389?page=1#posts-1429613'&gt;32guy&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/63389?page=1#posts-1429606&quot;&gt;Meepo&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;You are never too old for free candy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i was wondering when other people will stop wanting to give you candy, not whe you stop wanting it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Solution! Make yourself SO creepy that they'll give you candy to go away.

Really, ideally you would not dress up anymore around 40 or so.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/63389?page=1#posts-1429613&quot;&gt;32guy&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/63389?page=1#posts-1429606&quot;&gt;Meepo&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;You are never too old for free candy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i was wondering when other people will stop wanting to give you candy, not whe you stop wanting it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Solution! Make yourself SO creepy that they&amp;#8217;ll give you candy to go away.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Really, ideally you would not dress up anymore around 40 or so.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>Yeah, Gevock, we'd likely end up locking the threads included - this would just be a way to immortalize funny moments in OT history.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, Gevock, we&amp;#8217;d likely end up locking the threads included &amp;#8211; this would just be a way to immortalize funny moments in OT history.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href='/forums/2/topics/63391?page=1#posts-1429611'&gt;cjk98&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well, we would need some kind of voting system to determine which threads were &amp;#8216;epic&amp;#8217;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, *if* this gets cleared then we'll have to figure this kind of stuff out. Right now I'm looking to see how OT would feel about this.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Originally posted by &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/forums/2/topics/63391?page=1#posts-1429611&quot;&gt;cjk98&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well, we would need some kind of voting system to determine which threads were &amp;#8216;epic&amp;#8217;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, &lt;strong&gt;if&lt;/strong&gt; this gets cleared then we&amp;#8217;ll have to figure this kind of stuff out. Right now I&amp;#8217;m looking to see how OT would feel about this.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>A friend of mine just suggested this, and I haven't cleared it through the admins, but I might be able to sell them on creating a sticky directory for epic threads, things that were incredibly amusing and deserve to be remembered.

Thoughts? Suggestions for inclusions?

Remember, nothing is set, and this could quite easily get shot down by AC.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;A friend of mine just suggested this, and I haven&amp;#8217;t cleared it through the admins, but I might be able to sell them on creating a sticky directory for epic threads, things that were incredibly amusing and deserve to be remembered.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thoughts? Suggestions for inclusions?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember, nothing is set, and this could quite easily get shot down by AC.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>I'm doing it at 20. I claim it never ends, so long as you shave.

Just claim the wrinkles are a mask.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;m doing it at 20. I claim it never ends, so long as you shave.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just claim the wrinkles are a mask.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>Kimbarsa, that's utterly irrelevant. If you want some crime statistics or education statistics, I suggest checking out religioustolerance.org -I'm on an iPhone at the moment, so I can't post links, but suffice it to say the correlation is striking. Atheists are, in general, better educated than theists, and countries with high atheist/agnostic populations (such as Denmark) have very high levels of happiness (subjectively measured) and very low levels of crime. 

Moreover, statistics are clear on this as well - countries with religious governments are often horribly run, whereas secular governments are usually much better.  Again, we cannot establish causal correlation, but your claim that this is nothing but a numbers game is ummitigated bullshit.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;Kimbarsa, that&amp;#8217;s utterly irrelevant. If you want some crime statistics or education statistics, I suggest checking out religioustolerance.org -I&amp;#8217;m on an iPhone at the moment, so I can&amp;#8217;t post links, but suffice it to say the correlation is striking. Atheists are, in general, better educated than theists, and countries with high atheist/agnostic populations (such as Denmark) have very high levels of happiness (subjectively measured) and very low levels of crime.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Moreover, statistics are clear on this as well &amp;#8211; countries with religious governments are often horribly run, whereas secular governments are usually much better.  Again, we cannot establish causal correlation, but your claim that this is nothing but a numbers game is ummitigated bullshit.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>From dude who designed silly but oddly entertaining games (I'm still waiting on Waffleman II!) to internet meme. You've come a long way since Ninja Chat, meepo. :O</body>
    <body-html>&lt;p&gt;From dude who designed silly but oddly entertaining games (I&amp;#8217;m still waiting on Waffleman II!) to internet meme. You&amp;#8217;ve come a long way since Ninja Chat, meepo. :O&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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    <body>bq. cite a scientifc paper or site

On what a logical fallacy is? That's not a part of science - it's part of debate.

However, if you insist, 

http://keithdevens.com/wiki/Logical+fallacies

http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Argument_by_assertion

http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html

http://www.rationalresponders.com/logical_fallacy_lesson_4_bald_assertion

Wikipedia is better than all of those, though. Not trusting wikipedia blindly is a good thing - not trusting it at all is not.</body>
    <body-html>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;cite a scientifc paper or site&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On what a logical fallacy is? That&amp;#8217;s not a part of science &amp;#8211; it&amp;#8217;s part of debate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, if you insist,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://keithdevens.com/wiki/Logical+fallacies&quot;&gt;http://keithdevens.com/wiki/Logical+fallacies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Argument_by_assertion&quot;&gt;http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Argument_by_assertion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html&quot;&gt;http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rationalresponders.com/logical_fallacy_lesson_4_bald_assertion&quot;&gt;http://www.rationalresponders.com/logical_fallacy_lesson_4_bald_assertion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wikipedia is better than all of those, though. Not trusting wikipedia blindly is a good thing &amp;#8211; not trusting it at all is not.&lt;/p&gt;</body-html>
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