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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / No MK rewards on milestone event??

Ok listen to this:
Just got news from Cisz, who is very dedicated and talks with some devs occasionally
the news is that this milestones are a MISTAKE

They will fix it….but (there is always a but right?..)

DO NOT TAKE MILESTONES UNTIL AFTER IT’S FIXED

You will NOT be able to retake the already achieved milestones and so will NOT get thee appropiate rewards associated with them if you do!

Pass it on!!

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / No MK rewards on milestone event??

Are there no knowledge packs this week on Milestones?
That really sucks, i found events fun to do, but this way they sucked all the profit and fun right out of it

Many players don’t even need gold or bloonstones, and what rewards there are of those ain’t even worth your time

The monkey boosts and red hot spikes are the most lamest of lame rewards
Is this game gonna be a moneygrab pay to win after all and will packs be available through tile conquest and creditcards only?

I’m really starting to think about moving on to another game … :/

Bad move

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / Worth it?

AFAIK there is no chat on NK
The chat here on Kong keeps me coming back

I don’t think NK is actually interested in actively fixing stuff anyway, so just learn to live with the bugs

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / Suggestions Thread

i have just a small suggestion:

Fix the game, it’s horribly broken and bugged :/

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / CT cheating me out of my bloonstones

Ok, i know this isn’t the first thread, but since gamedevs are too lazy to fix this, i’m too lazy to lookup the old thread(s)

Since i start playing i’ve been winning CT’s and had the longest time held on both
The first week only CT1 but after that both CTs

Every week i see this popup for rewards for holding a CT the longest time, this should be 40 bloonstones

I am around every CT change upon a next week, but i never get those bloonstones

This mean this game has cheated me at least 7 times out of my 40 bloonstones
That’s 210 bloonstones, i literally wasted a lot of time on and am not getting

My gamerating will yet again go to 1 star, and i really like to see this fixed
Contested Territory seems no contest at all, and is just false promises

I must add that i did get every milestone i deserved, and also my occupation event rewards, but having a reward for longest time is basically an occupation reward too, and i spend a lot of time on that

NinjaKiwi, get off your lazy asses and fix these damned things that people have been complaining about for months

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / Bugs Megathread

mentioned here many times before by others, and now i also seem to suffer from this infamous farm bug:
getting server error while trying to collect my bananas, and it always forces a reconnect :/

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / Contested Territory (CT)

Originally posted by TheNorthStar:

Ahahaha what is the point of discussing all this. The new milestone rewards have been retracted YET AGAIN.

So no new milestones this current week? :/
Where did you find this info?

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / Occupation Rewards

Originally posted by dolton36:
Originally posted by BurnerDutch:
Originally posted by dolton36:

and @ Burner

well, Remember a few days ago you could buy monkey knowledge packs, which allowed some people if they wanted to to probably buy up to rank 5 on all knowledge, which would send them leaps and bounds ahead of everyone.

lol did you actually look at that ‘limited offer’ and calculated what you actually go for your money?
These were regular packs, and it would have cost you hundreds to buy one or even a few tiers up^^

That’s not ‘pay 2 win’ , that’s ‘bleed dry for a small advantage’ ^^

I honestly do not think anyone would have bought more than one of those ‘offers’ and gained more than a small advantage

I bought 2 packs

and I have lvl 4 MK now

so um yes

it “did” give me a advantage :D

A small advantage, like i said
You didn’t start with an empty rank now before buying did you? ;)

And how ‘cheap’ did this advantage come

Anyway i do think you should get at least something for your money spend

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / if I wasn't there to pick up my reward (5 day occupation) ... I LOST IT ??!?!????

well if it’s the case like you explained, i guess you should send a bugreport
seems a bit weird you have to be in time to claim that reward :/
sorry for the loss

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / if I wasn't there to pick up my reward (5 day occupation) ... I LOST IT ??!?!????

How can you be sure you held 5 days?
Maybe someone took CT from you before that?
Are you sure the bloons retake didn’t take place before that?

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / Occupation Rewards

Originally posted by dolton36:

and @ Burner

well, Remember a few days ago you could buy monkey knowledge packs, which allowed some people if they wanted to to probably buy up to rank 5 on all knowledge, which would send them leaps and bounds ahead of everyone.

lol did you actually look at that ‘limited offer’ and calculated what you actually go for your money?
These were regular packs, and it would have cost you hundreds to buy one or even a few tiers up^^

That’s not ‘pay 2 win’ , that’s ‘bleed dry for a small advantage’ ^^

I honestly do not think anyone would have bought more than one of those ‘offers’ and gained more than a small advantage

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / Bugs Megathread

Please fix the “do not show this again” checkbox on the early rush warning popup
It also makes the warning useless especially when playing double speed; it deselects your last selected tower and if you were waiting for just a few coins to upgrade it the bloons rush by before you click OK on the popup and reselect your tower to do your upgrade

Many times i lose a life over this

No matter if you click the checkbox, the popup always returns the next time you play that tile/CT

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / Occupation Rewards

Originally posted by SilverHx:
idling around keeping at a certain level and grabbing the easy bonuses (a.k.a. the casual players)

I find much more efficient to keep my level low while upgrading as much as I can rather than expanding. These days all I’m doing is waiting for lv3 upgrades and keeping my CT leadership. I only take easy squares before they become trivial.

Well, that’s kind of exactly my point ^^
IMHO that’s a flaw or unbalance in this game, but hey so is the game and if that’s how you want to play, that is of course totally fine
Also, the way i described in my wall of text, the way things works that playstrategy benefits you, as do milestones
Now there is something that is also (or more) a benefit to those who do not play it like that, so overall it’s an improvent in game balance to have occupation events next to milestone events ;)

My thoughts on the premium content: it’s too expensive for what it’s worth. Other games have done it better. New tower types aren’t really a solution here, but an extra mode or maybe something that allows the player to develop more quickly. Wait less on upgrades / a special building that gives cash over time / whatever. Stuff that’s mostly useless at the endgame, but nice while you’re still playing and have a lot to do. It is far more appealing than a one-shot cash or stones influx to people that for several reasons can not spend hours on the game.

Lucky for us cheapskates ( :P ), this game is NOT pay 2 win but more a free 2 play with a balanced income system that does not put anyone in disadvantage
Paying in this game is not a guaranteed win, and those who like to pay 2 win should prolly look elsewhere
Like i said, this game has more like donation options, of which only buying bloonstones/packs give a small advantage
It is possible to get a big advantage, but it means investing a lot (read a ridiculous amount)
This way the games deserves to be considered truly free without forcing or ‘highly tempting’ to pay anything ;)

IMHO a big win for anyone who likes quality free games

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / I wish we could send msg to other contestant in CT

Some ingame user interaction would be nice, now it seems so limited to the Kong users in the chatroom you occupy
Would be great to talk with other users too, including e.g. the ones playing through NK

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / Occupation Rewards

Originally posted by OnSiteFTW:
Originally posted by BurnerDutch:
Originally posted by OnSiteFTW:

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Sure. It benefits the 1/6 of the playerbase that has the time and wants to spend the time to manipulate it to their advantage. Additionally, CT groups people in roughly equal power levels. Assuming you’ve put thousands of hours in this game, you’ll never face me, as I have spent much less time. Which is the way it should be.

Additionally, the success of the game by the play time metric does not and should not care if the player playing has played for 10,000 hours or 1 hour. It’s still play time.

Don’t get me wrong, the power creep of introducing Monkey Knowledge without giving veterans what they would have earned had they done all of their work with them available is a much worse mistake than occupation rewards. But that’s a separate discussion for a separate time.

Yes, THIS CT benefits that (according to you-) 1/6 of the playerbase, e.g. the dedicated ones and the paying ones. Can these have at least some benefits? Contrary to what you are saying below, these people keep this game alive (as i will explain later ;) )

CT groups roughly equal levels, NOT powers, so it is a HUGE benefit to those who are just idling around keeping at a certain level and grabbing the easy bonuses (a.k.a. the casual players). These become relative LOW levels with HIGH knowledge(=power)
A NEW dedicated player will face HUGE resistance against every casual player while trying to get his/her occasional bonus and climbing the ranks (missing out e.g. on the ‘normal’ CT cash rewards and impossible battles in MvM)
Effectively killing two big portions of a game untill he spend tons of time or idled like the casuals and finally reaches a point where the more ‘active’ players are and so can face real honest competition

Playtime is playtime yes, and for a game one who is good at it and so dedicated time (and in some cases money) can in my opinion have sopme benefits for doing so
This would not be the case if the game was completely WITHOUT PvP elements as CT and MvM, but it is

Monkeyknowledge is food for a whole topic i agree, but at least little by little NK tries to improve the situation, although still somewhat slow and unbalanced, the ‘veterans’ have a slightly bigger chance on their packs with occupation

When one user has CT thoroughly dominated, or equally dominated and manipulated in their favor, are the other 5 players more likely to log on to play at any given time of the day? The answer is almost assuredly no.

I disagree, the casual players might do a little less CT (but there is still plenty game left without it), but dedicated players will try harder if not for current CT than for the next. Payers also might be tempted to make just one extra payment to get that little edge that currently can decide them winning or losing

I also think BTW a casual player is the least expected to generate game-income or participate in the other PvP(MvM) portion of the game, so although welcome and to a certain extend needed for the game dev’s, the least interesting(read profitable) gamer to target on in the long run

So you’re in favor of making this a “pay to win” game? It’s a valid game type, and NK may be suffering from lack of “sales” of premium items. Casual players get tired of “pay to win” games much quicker than free to play games though, which in the end, makes the game’s effective life shorter.

I never said i’m in favor of pay to win and imho BMC still falls under the category Free-2-Play, which is slightly different but in general more merciful for the players
Also both models have games that utilize it better although Pay-2-Win does have the most insane greedy cashgrab games by far compared to Free-2-Play

That being said, like it or not; People who do pay keep your game running, keep it developed, pay for servers to play on and earn a little back for the devs
People who are dedicated are around in the game, they fill the chat, help others, promote the game they think is fun, and above all honest because it’s NOT a greedy Pay-2-Win

NK gave us a few Bloons games, all of which can be played 100% for free especially with some time and dedication, and imho in this model they have found a great balance for paying and non-paying gamers. I’m even willing to say that paying gamers get the slightly shorter end of the stick, because what you can buy is a tad overpriced

But what is available for paying is no ridiculous, unobtainable OP premium content. If people want to spend thousands on it, fine by me, just go ahead, although i think you’re silly for doing so(aside from the very sane fact you’re financially supporting a dev i like ;) )
You can also see it as donating some to a game and dev you like, and just get a little in return that doesn’t majorly unbalance your game towards non-paying gamers

Non-paying casual players, especially in this game add absolutely nothing(for reasons explained above). They don’t support it by giving it an income, they unbalance it for those who do(OP players vs. struggling dedicated and even paying newbies) and when they not get OP in days (or god forbid: weeks) they leave anyway too
Then when there is something coming up, like current event they create a shitstorm of negative publicity, complaining on every media that lends their ear (forums/chat etc)
Fact is people, especially non-paying people have NO right to anything, be glad the game exist, if the GAMEPLAY didn’t suit you you’d prolly not be playing at all

Also my final statement:
If the decision at NK was no event this week OR this occupation event and they chose the latter, i think this is a HUGE win for the whole gamerbase
They didn’t scrap anything for it, they didn’t promise something else, they gave us something extra and i for one am enjoying it greatly!

PS. i’m a non-paying dedicated player

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / Bugs Megathread

Don’t know if it’s a bug, but if not a feature this can be considered a little exploit
If it’s a feature i think everyone should know about it:

Today i leveled to 25, and so could place my sixth banana farm for building in my city which should take 24 hours
However when i started CT/tiles after that i noticed that farm was ready available in-game, so i got it instantly ready there

Is it not supposed to be available AFTER the build-timer in the city finishes?

Anyway just noticed this with the sixth farm, i never looked at it when building previous farms
I did CT and just build my 5 farms as quickly as possible, then around round 25 i noticed still 1 farm available
Obviously had i build it quickly along with the first 5 it would have given a major advantage right away
After CT i doublechecked and noticed the city farm still had 23 hours left to build

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / Occupation Rewards

Originally posted by OnSiteFTW:

We get it. You like occupation milestones.

The success of a free to play game is measured in two ways: those that actually pay to obtain items faster, and the amount of time the average user spends playing.

I agree, but the complaining is mostly by people who don’t want and/or plan to spend a long time playing, they just want to login a day in a week, spend some time in CT, grab the bonuses, maybe do a tile or two and it’s byebye untill next week
Playing that casually is fine, but please don’t complain that you can not play competitive that way

Also, let’s turn it around:

- There are a lot of ‘veterans’ who have played a long time before monkey knowledge. They have to grind their asses off to get them
- Those who spend time and dedication level gradually
- Those who pay..well they have payed, and this could be a lot

Then comes the casual newbie, he lvls just to the point to be able to CT. Does not much else but login once a week mostly to grab some bonuses. They grow in knowledge because of this, but practically don’t level. This means they get overpowered in their levelrange just by playing less/for the bonus grabs

Milestones are for everybody, but the way i see it the ones benefitting the most are the casual players
So now we have this occupation event which benefits dedicated p(l)ayers more, that is not so bad right?

When one user has CT thoroughly dominated, or equally dominated and manipulated in their favor, are the other 5 players more likely to log on to play at any given time of the day? The answer is almost assuredly no.

I disagree, the casual players might do a little less CT (but there is still plenty game left without it), but dedicated players will try harder if not for current CT than for the next. Payers also might be tempted to make just one extra payment to get that little edge that currently can decide them winning or losing

I also think BTW a casual player is the least expected to generate game-income or participate in the other PvP(MvM) portion of the game, so although welcome and to a certain extend needed for the game dev’s, the least interesting(read profitable) gamer to target on in the long run

CT has its own rewards to begin with in city cash for the person that holds it; incentivizing it further with the occupation milestones is no more likely to get the average user on to play.

Milestones, after the user has reached his or her skill cap, may not be either. However, you have the user receiving a reward for playing, which not all players who play an occupation event get. So you get “feel good” for all 6 players with milestones, which you may or may not get for occupation.

Yes CT has it’s own rewards, but lets not forget that this is an event. I think (and hope)events are meant to give some extra incentive on various and rotating aspects of the game, making everyone at a point profit a little on that aspect that he/she is good in/enjoys the most

Also the standard $$ reward on CT is just as uninteresting as reward to everyone, one could make more quicker just by focusing playing tiles. Do the very high players even need $$? Prolly not or not that much, they need knowledge packs

As for skill cap, unless we have very rich players spending (up to-) thousands a week in this game, i think we have yet to see a fully skilled player in a long long time

Of course a majority can not win the occupation event, it’s a contest, we can not all be winners here

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / Occupation Rewards

lol i really laugh about all those people saying: “now i have zero incentive to play”…

erm…hello?…maybe just play because it’s a nice game to entertain yourself for a few minutes???
it’s not like the world is ending

Ontopic, i like the variation in events and this event and it’s reward makes me strive even harder to perfect my strategy

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / Contested Territory (CT)

I’m actually liking this event, although maybe not as much as i like the milestone events. It’s something different, milestones are for everyone and occupation is were dedication and skill pay off.

I’m honestly surprised about all the negativity in chat, two weeks ago there was NO event at all and people were less upset about that than they are now with this new event
This is my fourth week of play; 1st week was milestone, 2nd non-event, 3rd milestone again and now this occupation event. I think that’s a major improvement
There will always be people complaining about not being able to play so much. Those want to log in for 5 minutes and grab it all, the same and as much as someone who sinks a lot of time (and sometimes bloonstones) into the game?
Imho that’s not fair to dedicated people too

Being grouped in a CT with people that outlevel or outskill you can always happen, there is no 100% pure and honest way to balance that, same as life; sometimes you win some sometimes you’ll lose

Also at start and the first one or two days it always seem people get ‘stuck’ on the same round, thus seemingly making the ‘first’ the winner, although imho during the CT week there is much room for personal improvement to give you just that little edge to overtake the leader

To be short: I would love to see this event alternate with the milestone event, and replacing a non-event week altogether

 
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Topic: Bloons Monkey City / Server issues?

Does extremely slow loading of the game, and almost not ‘building city’ and connecting after that every mid-day count as a lot?
If so, yeah a lot!
Other hours ain’t so bad though

 
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Topic: Wartune / how to buy balens??

Thx that helped, it worked now!

 
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Topic: Wartune / how to buy balens??

Ok so i’ve got some kong kreds i want to use for balens
But none of the ingame recharge buttons work
I click, nothing happens

I try doing something that requires balens, it says i have none and if i want to recharge, i click nothing happens

Also trying to buy VIP does nothing

Everybody complains this game wants your money but it doesnt seem to want mine

How to buy?

 
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Topic: General Gaming / [Cursed Treasure: Don't Touch My Gems!] How do you defeat smokebomb guys?

I usually place some towers, preferably AOE and Dens (because crypt has lower fire rate) at the beginning of a map, as close to the entrance i can get them (sometimes have to cut some tree for it)
Keep them upgraded when you can, the more HP you can get on them the first shot, the better

Then in almost every map, their 5second invisibilty runs out around 3/4th of the map, where i have placed my main defense, and they get shot to pieces

Only exception really are some Level Bosses, who seem to get further then 3/4th
Like said before, the Meteor Spell takes out everybody who gets too far, so always have some Mana ready when the Ninja’s show up on you ‘Next Wave’list