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Topic: Off-topic / Do you procrastinate

Hi..I’m sam, and im an addict, and this is my story.

It started with one assignment, it wasn’t anything at first.
I got my first detention because of it.
I kept on forgetting to do that assignment, and because there was a new assignment everyday i had the same answer to the question that haunts me till this day.

“where’s your homework?” I took a gulp of the 2 painful seconds..“I don’t have it.”

This happened more than once. In fact, this happened every day of the week.

This wasn’t just math homework, this was english homework, biology homework, geography homework…“Where’s your book report?” “Where’s your African Brochure?” “Where’s your homework?” “homework?” “HOMEWORK?” “WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR HOMEWORK.” ……..“I don’t have it today..”

The pain..the agony of the teacher reaching for the detention ship. Giving it to me with a pen. “Sign here.” And i did, then i took the pink slip and kept it in my backpack with all the other detention slips. I have about 20 at the time.

This wasn’t just homework..this was just the start. I was late to school half the days of the week. This conversation stuck with me the most:

“Sarah. Why haven’t you showed up to class for 6 weeks?”
“…I was too late and didn’t want to walk in in the middle of class.”
“I’ve been giving you chance, after chance, after chance. If you don’t come to class the rest of the week, i’m kicking you out.”
“I’ll come to class.” Or..that’s what i thought.

This was the next conversation a week later.
“Sarah. You didn’t come to class.”
“._.”
“Bye.”
“cya….”

Freshman year i’ve gotten 40 detentions…because of the demerit policy the following year, i only got 20 my sophomore year.

fin.

 

Topic: Serious Discussion / The "fat acceptance" movement and why people are so apt to defend an unhealthy lifestyle

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Was Anne Frank's diary a fake? And how does this affect those who believe in the holocaust?

Originally posted by OmegaDoom:
Originally posted by Trickymist98:

I just don’t understand why the jews,gypsies, gays, and mentally challenged in the holocaust get so much attention when more than twice as many people died in russia during and after this time.

To be honest, the holocaust probably happened, but you’re being intellectually dishonest if you just ignore some of the crooked evidence that can be found.

I think it’s more of a principle thing, it’s not that the holocaust didn’t happen, it’s that we should question everything, including the holocaust.

well far more people died of traffic accidents or heart problems. but it’s the nature in which they died which is rather shocking. if one person died because of murder, and another two died because of a desease or some cause we completely understand, the police is going to research the murder case. also it’s proportions: if an entire town of 100 000 people die that’s a much bigger news than 100 000 random people spread out over the world.

but in any case, no-one is covering up that a lot of Russians died because they fought in large numbers. you can take it both for what it is.

Should we question the moon landing too?

uhm, well actually, yes we should, lol. i’m sure it happened, but yes we should question it. don’t take anything for granted.

@TrickyMist98 Because schools teach students what they want to teach students.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The "fat acceptance" movement and why people are so apt to defend an unhealthy lifestyle

Originally posted by Trickymist98:

Grocery stores don’t owe you anything. Grocery stores respond to market demand. Unfortunately, a lot of people prefer to eat processed stuff, although you could argue that government subsidies mess up the market.

The thing is, your appeal to majority is useless in my opinion. You talk about how “everyone” eats bad, but I just made myself some lunch. A can of tuna mixed in with some lettuce, tomatoes, and a whole grapefruit on the side.

I would agree that America has a consumer culture, as well as the rest of the western world unfortunately.

But I disagree with you 100% on this last line right here, “It’s not the person’s fault entire if they buy junk food, but america should be feeding us better”

At the end of the day, whether or not you buy the bad food is on you. I will agree that there is incentive to buy the bad food, but we as humans can overcome that.

btw, in case anyone tries to use this later, healthy food is in fact less expensive than bad food, it’s just that most people think healthy means “Gluten Free” and “Low Fat” and stuff like that.

http://trade.gov/td/ocg/report08_processedfoods.pdf

I highly recommend that you look at that report of processed foods industries.

I don’t want to copy and paste this entire article on here. It’s not that big of a link and it’s easy enough to skim the main points:

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/life/big-book/processed-foods-make-70-percent-us-diet

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Was Anne Frank's diary a fake? And how does this affect those who believe in the holocaust?

Originally posted by issendorf:
Should we question the moon landing too?

Not even in the same ballpark. You can ‘plausibly’ deny the moon landing about 100x better than you can the holocaust. Denying the holocaust is in the same realm as arguing the Earth is flat.

Yup. Saying that the earth was flat is smater than saying that the Holocaust wasn’t real.

I cannot believe…that the world itself chooses to do astonishing things, and then the next generation of people look back on history, and doesn’t believe that it actually happened. It’s like vacuuming a rug and 2 days later writing an in debt analysis on how you didn’t vacuum the rug.

I wouldn’t be surprised if in 300 years, the world would be saying that North Korea never happened.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Was Anne Frank's diary a fake? And how does this affect those who believe in the holocaust?

Okay, let me just say something. The holocaust was real. Hitler was an actual dictator, he ruled Germany, and they hated jews.

DO YOU WANT FUCKING PROOF.

The education of Germany at the time of holocaust was factual. They taught children as well as young adults, let me just say, the bible of germany. It strictly states their view of Jews. Everyone in school or home school learned that Jews were the enemy. That they caused the job crisis in Germany, that they were evil, non human creatures that deserved to die. This was their education. Now, let me get to the soldiers of Germany at that time, dumbass. Soldiers would tell you that the holocaust was apart of the war. What they would do is get a bunch of jews in their back yard, put them in striped pajamas with numbers, starve them, make them work in an electrical gated area with no food. ANd then when the time came they would pushed to the fire house like they were animals, naked, and burned to death. Causing a horrid, disgusting smell in the air. A child who was jewish was put to work and was not aloud to eat. If they were caught stealing, then they would be beaten. If a jew in house hold failed to do their duty to serve, if they were too slow or something, then they would be beaten to death.

If you want proof, watched the movie: “The boy in the striped Pajamas.”

The Germans were sick. They would take all the Jews they could find and put them in one isolated area. But there was propaganda involved. Many scholars thought that the jews were put in happy places, with food and water. But no, that was a lie. The jews were starved to death and put in camps. Anne Frank was a girl who was a live during the Holocaust. SHe wasn’t aloud to go to school because she was Jewish. The Germans found her, and killed her. She wrote in a diary because she was a teenager and she liked writing in her diary. It was real, she wrote the diary herself. If you posted this threat without actually reading the diary then i’m facepalming my faces so hard right now. It makes me sick that society is teaching people that the holocaust wasn’t real. It’s purely the most idiotc thing i have ever seen. It’s more stupid than Obama winning another year. It’s more stupid than Ed, Edd, and Eddy becoming the most popular dvd series in the world. It’s more stupid than someone saying: “I hate blacks because i don’t like the color black.” It’s so stupid, and so beyond the realm of intelligence that a mentally challenged monkey would write a story on a type writer better than that article. It’s so RETARDED, that family guy wins 200 IQ points.

The holocaust happened.

It was history.

It was apart of WWII.

THere are still people alive today who were apart of the holocaust.

I’ts not a fucking religion, it’s factual. There is so much evidence of it. It’s stupid just having to prove it because it HAPPENED.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The "fat acceptance" movement and why people are so apt to defend an unhealthy lifestyle

Originally posted by Trickymist98:

“It’s horrible to be Obese. It causes strokes, heart failure, diabetes, etc. If can disable you of taking care of your family and allowing you to do normal, house hold chores.”

I agree.

“If anything, there should be a movement to get skinny.”

Not really, there “shouldn’t” really be any movement. If people want to be fat, they should be allowed to be fat, and face the consequences of those actions. Besides, plenty of people can be fat and still be successful, we shouldn’t push our values on others.

“It’s an addiction and you shouldn’t make fat people have to deal with the pressure to be thin.”
Again, with the “Shoulds” besides, this is a double standard. Don’t you think it’s a little unfair to smokers when there are those horrible commercials where the people talk through their throat machines about how bad it is to be a smoker? Don’t you think that’s too much pressure to be healthy?
You can’t have one and not the other, if you’re going to condone unhealthy lifestyles, which is perfectly fine, you can’t refuse that same respect to other groups.

“It’s also not right for skinny people to think: “Well thank God i’m not fat.”
I’m pretty happy I’m not fat in the same way I’m happy I’m not addicted to meth. I’m allowed to be proud of the good decisions I make whether you think I should or not.

I did write my comment kind a fast and skimmed through my thoughts, so i’m not surprised that the points you corrected me on were the points i was slightly unsure on. But also when you said you’re proud of making good decision, there are times when people actually do shoot their wounded. Also, people are already aloud to be fat.

One thing i’ve recently discovered is the foods that are in grocery stores. If you walk in, almost everything is processed food. It’s not really food, there are isles of crap, sodas, Gatorade, monsters, donuts, etc. It’s so extreme that in order to eat healthy organic food is if you go to an all organic store. And if you did that, you wouldn’t like it. One day, i had went to taco bell with some friends. Then i had pringles and a monster. Butt hen for some more food, we were driven to an all organic food place because the driver wanted to stay healthy. I had a burrito there, but it was a whole wheat tortilla, filled with sprouts and beans. I had a couple bites and i felt sick to my stomach. not a “i’m going to throw up sick” but an unhealthy sick as if my stomach was sensitive to sugar. It took an hour to feel better and the next day my stomach was flatter than normal. From this experience i can say that 60% of people shop at grocery stores for food, 20% eat fast food and the rest eat grass filled burritos at organic stores. I’m not anything against organic stores, but the thing that i don’t like and what most other people won’t like is how extreme it is. You either have a grocery store filled with junk food and/or a smaller store filled with healthy food. Why is it so extreme? Does it have anything to do with consumerism?
America has the most consumerism world wide. Why? Because we want STUFF. And when we have stuff, we feel that we don’t have enough. A great example is this documentary on netflix about extreme couponing. This chick has a grocery store in her house because she wants so much fucking food. It’s not about the coupons, if she had that much coupons then why did she buy 30 mustard bottles. I think that grocery stores play a very important part in obesity in america. It’s not the person’s fault entire if they buy junk food, but america should be feeding us better. j

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Excessive cursing

Originally posted by neverstop4325:

I don’t think cursing should be allowed on the website because most of us kids and teens are going to want to abuse that power. The rule “Don’t be a jerk” says not to excessively curse, but who reads it? Basically, allowing kids and teens to even curse at all is like breaking your own rule, that’s why I think you should take off the cursing for kids and teens.

I agree with your completely. In blackmyst, the word Bitch is constantly used towards people you don’t like. It’s not just cursing that’s the problem, it’s the passive aggressive behavior and attitude that users have with other users. If someone says 1 back thing about someone else, that person might hold a grudge and forever be against that person. This causes the first: “I hate you bitch,” comment to arise. Lets say this person is also someone who’s arrogant, and doesn’t tell you why they hate you because they’re probably being a hypocrite. Then that leaves the person who “Started it” in all confusion. Then before you know it, word goes around and whoever is friends with the person who hates you, also hates you, within minutes, or even seconds. And it’s not just the hate that goes around and spreads through everyone else, it’s the social aspect of it. If someone doesn’t like you for whatever reason, they will ignore you in chat most of the time, and if they don’t ignore you, then a fight breaks out. Curse words are then used in every sentence, and whoever’s the coolest and most liked person in the argument wins. It’s not like anyone cares, but when this bullying and tension is constantly a problem, so much that the person is going to rally up every single person in chat to join their private chat just to single out and exclude the person who’s going to start arguments against everyone because everyone hates that person but the person is trying to explain at them for whatever reason why they shouldn’t be hated because they don’t know how to deal with people who hate them so much because of judgments being made, picking out favorites, being a constant bitch to someone because they hold grudges..

that’s when it hurts people. And that is what goes on in chats. Admins can’t see it because they aren’t apart of it. And what do you know, someone is hurt, mods can’t do anything because it’s all in private, and everyone who picks on the person they call a bitch has a huge ego. No one gets to be that arrogant. It’s not the hated person’s fault if everyone hates them. There’s mass confusion and constant fighting. So yes, excessive cursing is a problem. But why is it a problem? Is that the actual question, or is the real question “How does it make a problem worse.”

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The government can now take your DNA without a warrant!

Well, there’s nothing the people can do about it. I don’t see what the big deal is about taking out DNA without a warrant. It seems that whenever someone here’s the word “government” it’s like some foreign country that’s controlling everything we do. America has fair freedom and a constitution, and if anything the government would be using their ability to take our DNA without of a warrant for good reasons. If you’re scared about this subject and you don’t understand why the government would want to have such personal information, then read the book 1984. But just because they CAN take our DNA without a warrant doesn’t mean that millions of people are going to stand in line of a blood test until the government has every single person’s blood. I mean, if someone was a serial killer and they wanted to find out who and where he is, having access to his DNA isn’t a bad thing. But if you’re so paranoid about there being a government to control society because, just like Lord of the Flies, we can’t control ourselves because of our human nature, then just don’t give your blood to anyone. Simple as that.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The "fat acceptance" movement and why people are so apt to defend an unhealthy lifestyle

It’s horrible to be Obese. It causes strokes, heart failure, diabetes, etc. If can disable you of taking care of your family and allowing you to do normal, house hold chores. I don’t understand why these people who love food so much are so apt to defend an unhealthy lifestyle. Is it because society judges you based on their looks? It seems like anorexia is also a problem, but there’s a movement going on for that saying that it’s a choice, not a disease. If i were fat, i would hate it when people come over and talk to me telling me to eat a certain way. Fat people know that they are fat, and if they want to get rid of their weight, then that’s their choice. We just have to have to right resources and right plans so that if they do make the choice, they go in the right direction and they aren’t being put on TV for ratings or taken to the gym to life 2 lbs.

If anything, there should be a movement to get skinny. Not because society wants to make you think a certain way about dieting (Dr. Oz, Weight Watchers, etc.), but because we simply want to look our best in a bikini and boost our confidence. Losing weight isn’t rocket science. It’s easy to understand, but the fatter you are the harder it is to sustain a healthy diet and exercise because you have fat build up everywhere. A movement where this can start can be youtube, lets say we have someone who’s self conscious about their weight and they want to drop a few. So what they do is they start running and cooking good meals from a healthy cook book. They film themselves every few weeks to track their progress with their weight, until the last video they aren’t necessarily skinny, but they look healthier and more proportioned. This is something that is a good way to lose your weight. No shortcuts, no special cream that tightens your butt and no dieting websites. If it’s a choice to eat food, then it’s a choice to not eat food.

Stop wit the dieting, society. Stop with the special vitamins, diet pills, energy boosters, tightening cream. This “fat acceptance” movement isn’t so fat people can continue being fat because they want to. This movement is a wake up call to society so that we stop throwing healthy dieting books in their faces. Everyone knows how to lose weight. It’s an addiction and you shouldn’t make fat people have to deal with the pressure to be thin. It’s also not right for skinny people to think: “Well thank God i’m not fat.” No. It’s a shame you view yourself as skinny just because other people are fat.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Do you know any video game for blind people ?

If it’s a video, then really all you have to do is hear it. Blind people watch movies all the time and they seem to have a good foundation of what’s going on in the film .

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Originally posted by gluCROWse:

I agree, all of these christians are being close-minded and judgemental.

Why cant they be open minded like us atheists who never judge anyone based on religion?

Also all religious people are too stupid to understand science

discuss

Christians ARE open minded. What you’re viewing isn’t what christians should be. there’s this whole realm of christianity that people don’t see that is open, inspiring, and fun. you don’t even have to be christian to under stand the message. we don’t judge and the bible teaches us all of that. stop judging christians as if you think they are this, or you think they are that. it’s probably just the person himself who is being closed-minded and judgemental. last time i checked, atheists were so closed-minded they didn’t even want to go to a christian school to get a good education, despite the fact that they would see people talking about it. if you think christians are close-minded and judgemental, you’re wrong. Because christians want to follow what jesus did, and jesus wasn’t even close to be close-minded or judgemental. in fact if you read the bible, it tells you to never judge. find the real christians in the world and stop not believing in something that was meant to be true but got twisted by society. that’s why i say christianity isn’t a religion and that’ it’s twisted, because your average christian would keep their faith in church, then once the aren’t in church anymore they aren’t christians anymore. it’s more like a switch. you’re christian in church, and the next thing you know you’re having sex on a friday night at a club. real christians are open about it…and it’s rare you find them in any sort of church. why would they go to church? what’s the point of goign to church. church isn’t the same as it should be. right now, it’s just a social way to interact with believe who also believe in God. and also, you shouldn’t disrespect other people of a different religion than you. religion isn’t what’s clouding their ability to understand science. it’s clouding their view of God. They aren’t stupid, and if they weren’t religion they probably wouldn’t even become scientists. And also the key word “all.” There were religious people who were scientists, and without them, we wouldn’t have the theories of the big bang and God being the only way for a universe to ever exist. I know religion people. A couple of my friends are deeply Hindu and the only thing that happens to them religiously is they have a pray room, they wear different clothes, and they read other scripture. if you think that those things are what’s keeping them from understanding science, then you’re wrong. everyone knows science. everyone who goes to school knows science, religious or not. in fact…it talks about science in the karan.

 
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Topic: Off-topic / In what ways is Russel Crowe in the Cinderella Man NOT a hero?

I need real good arguments on this and discussions.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Originally posted by tenco1:
Originally posted by XxsamuroxX:

Christianity is twisted 2013…

Three hurrahs for the butchering of the English language.

Originally posted by XxsamuroxX:

don’t look in that realm of science and social studies for God, just look in the bible.

That’s the easy way out. Also, you’re missing his point.

You’re smart and i know you’re trying to figure this out and i know you feel like you’re onto something here, and you are, but you’re missing God entirely.

Well, if by “missing God” you mean he isn’t trying to look for a reason to believe in one of the more popular religions, then yes.

Question after question, the real thing you should be studying about humans is why we ask so many questions?

Because we’re curious. Next question.

The truth so far, whether it be false or not, is straight forward.

The truth resists simplicity.
-John Green

The bible was made to fill in every single gap and question, and the bible fills in every single gap and question It doesn’t matter how much you know about science or not..because God didn’t work with the memory or critical thinking of others. He worked with their hearts.

Another think that bugs me about some religious people: taking the easy way out even though we really shouldn’t at this point.

Also, how hard it is for you to make clear points? You’ve contradicted yourself for almost every post.

Christianity isn’t a religion, it’s a relationship with God. Also, it’s not hard being Christian and don’t be a hyprocrite saying that christianity is the easy way out. Because most people take the easy way out by not following jesus.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Originally posted by Jantonaitis:

The title to this topic is unintentionally insightful: ‘Does God exist and why’, meaning, ‘give supporting evidence for (the Judeo-Christian) God’s existence’, ie. the tired old saw that’s been phrased and rephrased an endless amount of times. But see, the question could also mean ‘Why does God exist’, which IMO brings up infinitely more possibilities for discussion, enough to satisfy the zealots on either extreme.

‘Why does God exist’, assuming it does? Well, define ‘exist’. God as a living entity? meh. God as a concept certainly exists, something that was briefly posed on page 2 and then discarded after the neo-atheist shills decided it was no different than ‘Santa Claus as a concept’. The biography of the last 6 thousand years (not counting the neolithic stuff) of recorded human accountings of God, versus some shitty meme to ridicule, would suggest otherwise. So what does God-As-Concept mean in regards to the question?

Well, why did humans invent God as a concept – assuming they did and its not an evolutionary feature. Are there any reasons God-the-concept is still relevant today? For most non-religious people, I’m sure the answer is a definite ‘No’, but hang on a sec: if God was invented solely to explain why the sun comes up and to keep people morally in line, then yes, it’s irrelevant to the non-religious. But what if there’s more to it than that? Does belief make people happier versus non-belief? Skip the pithy rejoinders and consider the possibility. I’m not arguing that it’s true, but I am arguing that there’s probably more to it than we typically give credit for.

Or take a different tack – ontology (I think that’s the right word). What factors le(a)d to the creation of a god? Vika touched on this one earlier, but again, it quickly got discarded (more vika’s fault than any strong opposition):

Originally posted by vikaTae: I can think of two possible ways that would qualify right now; making the planet a single sentient entity, or combining several million sentient minds (willingly or through force, it does not matter) into a single distributed entity. Both would qualify for godhood, being entities who effectively cannot die, whilst at the same time each being a few hundreds of thousands of orders of magnitude above the capabilities of a human.

The first I think is a Matrioshka Brain, the second sounds like a Noosphere, both are theoretically possibly, though the latter seems more metaphysical in nature. They’re both candidates for godhood though, if we go by their descriptions rather than some vague spiritual requirement.

Lastly, there’s the teleological angle, ie. what purpose does God exist for, assuming it exists as more than a concept. This is, I suppose, where the creationist slant would go, but IMO God’s utility would have less to do with the First Cause – which is mostly agreed to be just a placeholder – and more to do with ensuring the factors necessary for the formation of life (and to an extent, intelligent life), like the anthropic principle, the unique properties of water, the Cambrian Explosion, etc. Those aren’t arguments for god’s existence (though they have been used as such by IDers), since they are necessarily without proof of a puppeteer, so to speak. But they ARE hypotheticals for the actual purpose a god would have, apart from eschatological navel-gazing.


Of course, in order to have this discussion you have to be capable of entertaining the possibility that God exists without being compelled to jump in and ridicule it, and apart from like three people here, I’m not convinced it’ll work in SD. But I wrote all this out so it’d be cool if someone gave it a whirl.

don’t look in that realm of science and social studies for God, just look in the bible. You’re smart and i know you’re trying to figure this out and i know you feel like you’re onto something here, and you are, but you’re missing God entirely. Question after question, the real thing you should be studying about humans is why we ask so many questions? The truth so far, whether it be false or not, is straight forward. The bible was made to fill in every single gap and question, and the bible fills in every single gap and question It doesn’t matter how much you know about science or not..because God didn’t work with the memory or critical thinking of others. He worked with their hearts.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Originally posted by TheLoneLucas:
Originally posted by Sroft:

guys, it doesnt matter if you believe that god exists, it only matters that there are people out there who do. And if it gets them through life and allows them to die peacefully without fear and anguish, then let them believe in god. It is not up to you to decide what other people believe in.

Sure, when those people stop using god as a way to justify things regarding others.

Christianity is twisted 2013…

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Originally posted by slasher:
Originally posted by XxsamuroxX:
Originally posted by slasher:
Originally posted by XxsamuroxX:
Originally posted by vikaTae:
Originally posted by XxsamuroxX:

I believe in the sort of thing that concrete evidence shouldn’t be shared because (she doesn’t have any).

Just because i haven’t given any evidence doesn’t mean there is none (but she has none to give, because she doesn’t have it herself and is just making the shit up as she goes along).

But i already know that if i tell you we have images of jesus in the stars and that laminin is proof that God is a personal God, (which she’s not going to actually link to, because as usual, she’s just making shit up for funzies) you’ll probably just call it random acts of science.

I don’t just believe in this just because someone has told this to me. I believe in God because i’ve met God on my own.(and he didn’t tell her anything memorable, clearly, else she would be able to share it)

(The paragraphs are my own, as her god still hasn’t taught her the value of making an effort with her writing -vika)


I have evidence. You want me to link up the ****ing evidence then just ask me, goddamn. You know you should be a bit more kinder in forums, you starting to act like a **** now.


Here’s your goddamn evidence.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtpTk2ENq7o
basicseries.com
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=moriah+peters+&oq=moriah+peters+&gs_l=youtube.3..35i39l2j0l8.642081.645542.0.645649.18.16.1.0.0.0.184.2134.5j11.16.0…0.0…1ac.1.11.youtube.jFdoFTgREgk


Guys, this thread isn’t for personal attacks. Sorry if you felt offended, we end up chasing away so many of the god-believers that it’s a rare occasion that credible ones actually come along. I don’t believe that a god can be dis-proven, but I also do not believe that god can be proven either. I’ve seen and learned too much to believe that Jesus could be any type of deity, or has been connected to any deity. I can believe in a God that cannot interact within humanity. I don’t want to be a downer on everything, but your main evidence is a preacher using a pathos argument to instill awe of god without using revealing any scientific data that would go against his word. I respect that, but I could explain everything he talked about.


I’m not a preacher…i’m just trying to explain it. I don’t want to be a preacher and you can’t prove that God exists, so i do hope that people look for other reasons that aren’t apart of science. Science is too much of a materialistic view of things.


If science could collect data on immaterial things, we would. It’s not that we prefer the material view of the world, it is just that material appears to be the only plane of existence. If immaterial things existed, they would happen to become material, because we would eventually be able to identify it and its functions. Believe me, I would love to include God and religion into the scientific community, but there is no evidence to support it. The bible was written by humans, it did not fall from the sky. Your prophet is a human. There isn’t a consistently appearing deity from the past, or now, within all of the available religions to choose from. I would love for there to be a scientifically proven god, believe me. I would love for a God to come down and teach us how hating each-other is wrong, how these ignorant wars between radical religions are only creating more problems, how it is stupid to hate gays for following their natural psychology, and how it is stupid to use old teachings like slavery and sexism to bend society. I would Love for a God to finally come down and correct this all, but, sadly, if a deity does exists he obviously hasn’t shown him/her/itself to humanity.

I do feel enlightened by the fact that you say you wish to include God into science, in fact that means a lot of me. However, you don’t understand that we don’t need to prove God. The bible didn’t fall from the sky, true, but it was made through the word of God through Jesus christ, and the word of God through other people. And also, let me get one string of fact here. and that is..Jesus being human. If you saw Jesus right now, in front of you, you would not feel anything, because YOU are human. However, God and Jesus have a connection that scientists don’t understand. And that connection is through the holy spirit. Also, you weren’t put on this earth to not be righteous. Humans were made to believe in God and in says in the bible that God has given us all we need to be righteous. We have the brain, flesh, eyes, eyes, a heart, and a spirit. Jesus wasn’t a super human being, he was human. But God worked through Him. God fulfilled Jesus with perfection and made him holy. In god’s eyes, Jesus is Huge of Glory and love, but in our eyes, he was a peasant and needed to die. We obviously didn’t SEE what Jesus was actually like. We didn’t see his fulfillment with God. God did in fact come down and correct us all. I mean come on, read the new testament. Jesus hangs out with horrible people and corrects them of their wrong doings. He corrects a lot of people of their wrong doing in the bible, and saves a lot too. He had disciples and taught them the word of God and told each and every one of them to love each other. Everything that comes out of Jesus’s mouth in that bible is either telling a parable to correct someone/teach someone or talking the word of God to people. He already came down and corrected us through Him. Jesus even says in the bible that he did nothing, God did it all. I just wish that you guys wouldn’t be so caught up in science that you don’t understand that if God is real, it all makes sense. I know there’s no God in any equation, and there doesn’t have to be. But in the balance of life he does so much. You don’t see it because you don’t see the perfection that God is doing in the world right now. He’s perfected a lot of people, just like he did with Jesus. God is everywhere in my life, i just wish you would see something like that too. Because if you did, i guarantee that you wouldn’t add him in any scientific equation.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Originally posted by slasher:
Originally posted by XxsamuroxX:
Originally posted by vikaTae:
Originally posted by XxsamuroxX:

I believe in the sort of thing that concrete evidence shouldn’t be shared because (she doesn’t have any).

Just because i haven’t given any evidence doesn’t mean there is none (but she has none to give, because she doesn’t have it herself and is just making the shit up as she goes along).

But i already know that if i tell you we have images of jesus in the stars and that laminin is proof that God is a personal God, (which she’s not going to actually link to, because as usual, she’s just making shit up for funzies) you’ll probably just call it random acts of science.

I don’t just believe in this just because someone has told this to me. I believe in God because i’ve met God on my own.(and he didn’t tell her anything memorable, clearly, else she would be able to share it)

(The paragraphs are my own, as her god still hasn’t taught her the value of making an effort with her writing -vika)


I have evidence. You want me to link up the ****ing evidence then just ask me, goddamn. You know you should be a bit more kinder in forums, you starting to act like a **** now.


Here’s your goddamn evidence.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtpTk2ENq7o
basicseries.com
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=moriah+peters+&oq=moriah+peters+&gs_l=youtube.3..35i39l2j0l8.642081.645542.0.645649.18.16.1.0.0.0.184.2134.5j11.16.0…0.0…1ac.1.11.youtube.jFdoFTgREgk


Guys, this thread isn’t for personal attacks. Sorry if you felt offended, we end up chasing away so many of the god-believers that it’s a rare occasion that credible ones actually come along. I don’t believe that a god can be dis-proven, but I also do not believe that god can be proven either. I’ve seen and learned too much to believe that Jesus could be any type of deity, or has been connected to any deity. I can believe in a God that cannot interact within humanity. I don’t want to be a downer on everything, but your main evidence is a preacher using a pathos argument to instill awe of god without using revealing any scientific data that would go against his word. I respect that, but I could explain everything he talked about.

I’m not a preacher…i’m just trying to explain it. I don’t want to be a preacher and you can’t prove that God exists, so i do hope that people look for other reasons that aren’t apart of science. Science is too much of a materialistic view of things.

 
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Originally posted by vikaTae:
Originally posted by XxsamuroxX:

I believe in the sort of thing that concrete evidence shouldn’t be shared because (she doesn’t have any).

Just because i haven’t given any evidence doesn’t mean there is none (but she has none to give, because she doesn’t have it herself and is just making the shit up as she goes along).

But i already know that if i tell you we have images of jesus in the stars and that laminin is proof that God is a personal God, (which she’s not going to actually link to, because as usual, she’s just making shit up for funzies) you’ll probably just call it random acts of science.

I don’t just believe in this just because someone has told this to me. I believe in God because i’ve met God on my own.(and he didn’t tell her anything memorable, clearly, else she would be able to share it)

(The paragraphs are my own, as her god still hasn’t taught her the value of making an effort with her writing -vika)

I have evidence. You want me to link up the ****ing evidence then just ask me, goddamn. You know you should be a bit more kinder in forums, you starting to act like a **** now.

Here’s your goddamn evidence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtpTk2ENq7o
basicseries.com
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=moriah+peters+&oq=moriah+peters+&gs_l=youtube.3..35i39l2j0l8.642081.645542.0.645649.18.16.1.0.0.0.184.2134.5j11.16.0…0.0…1ac.1.11.youtube.jFdoFTgREgk

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Originally posted by ohmylanta:
You cannot say whether your way has a better chance of having an after life. Those things were already figured out before you were born. You cannot create afterlife, and you cannot play God like that. This isn’t my way. Being on the computer isn’t the way i’m going. My way in life, is my way in life. If i were to sum up one point out of all of this it would be that saying everyone is right and there are 1000 ways to heaven is completely wrong and doesn’t make any sense. I would try to expand on that more but i feel like being a scientist, politician, engineer, world changer, and/or a conservative is more important. It’s not. Just do what you do in the name of Jesus, because you’re supposed to take your faith where ever you may be. There is a very few amount of things in this world that will fulfill you to this end. I said christianity and an anti-justice clan can work hand in hand, but you don’t see that God’s works can do miracles. You just think that without God, you can do what you want to make this world a better place. You try releasing 27 million underaged girls from sex slavery then come back and tell me how much of the world you’ve changed.

Your claims about how afterlife works are just as valid as vikas, as you don’t have any real evidence. See, your problem is that you approach the questions to your beliefs with the presumption that you are right, and therefore the bible is credible evidence of God’s actions and the afterlife; you are recalling facts that are so set in stone for you that they are irrefutable in your opinion. Consider the fact that everything you’ve been told is wrong. Your justification for your religious beliefs basically amounts to “because you say it so”, and in reality you do believe that you can play God, because you are doing it. God is a made up concept, he may have infinite importance to you but to claim that your clarity of faith is of relevance to anyone else is a bold statement which require concrete evidence.

I believe in the sort of thing that concrete evidence shouldn’t be shared because everyone is just going to bash it saying: “that’s not good enough.” Just because i haven’t given any evidence doesn’t mean there is none. But i already know that if i tell you we have images of jesus in the stars and that laminin is proof that God is a personal God, you’ll probably just call it random acts of science. I don’t just believe in this just because someone has told this to me. I believe in God because i’ve met God on my own.

 
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Originally posted by slasher:
Originally posted by XxsamuroxX:
Originally posted by TheLoneLucas:

Have you guys heard of the God particle? It could be the key to the creation of the universe

’’Could’’.

You have no proof, only speculation. At best.

nothing wrong with making theories.

It was originally called the “God-damn” particle because it was so goddamn hard to find. Media sources had to get rid of the “damn” within the name in order to make it public-friendly.

Heh.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Originally posted by TheLoneLucas:

Have you guys heard of the God particle? It could be the key to the creation of the universe

’’Could’’.

You have no proof, only speculation. At best.

nothing wrong with making theories.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Originally posted by ohmylanta:
Originally posted by Badge_Ninja:
Originally posted by TheLoneLucas:
Originally posted by Badge_Ninja:

I think somewhere out there. There is a god.

If you think about it. It’s like this, everything needs a creator – To make a chair, you need a chairmaker. To make a house, you need an architect.

I just can’t believe that all this was just here. There has to be a creator.

So what created god?

God created himself :D

If God can create himself without any logical problem, then why can’t the universe create itself in a similar fashion? Your inability to accept that existence does not require a creator needs to be equated with anyone else’s inability to accept that god does not require a creator.

Have you guys heard of the God particle? It could be the key to the creation of the universe

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Originally posted by vikaTae:
Originally posted by XxsamuroxX:

You cannot say whether your way has a better chance of having an after life.

Course I can. I understand what science is. You don’t as your “timezones in space” in another thread demonstrated. Neurology is my area. Neurocomputation is something I use in daily work. I can see how an afterlife could be made, and I can understand using another tool you don’t have, logic, how one could transfer a mind over from the substrate of flesh to the substrate of silicon.

Those things were already figured out before you were born.

Really? so how come I was born nearly two decades before the first papers on the subject started appearing? Those researchers sat on their results an awful long time. Some of them must have had the results in Junior high. Quite impressive when you consider they were university funded.

You cannot create afterlife, and you cannot play God like that.

Says the woman who doesn’t know one end of neuroanatomy from the other. Believe me I can. To an extent, I already have. Guess what? It worked. Human anatomy and machine as one.

Its worked each time I or one of my peers have tried it, and we know why it worked. We can keep making the interface better. Eventually, we won’t need the human any more. Still alive, human body dead. Still alive after death = afterlife.

This isn’t my way. Being on the computer isn’t the way i’m going.

No, you’re going where you are playing russian roulette. There might be an afterlife, there might not. Two chambers in the gun, one bullet. Spin it really fast, then hold it to your head and pull the trigger.

My way, I’ll have an afterlife waiting for me, that I’ve helped build. I’ll choose your way eventually when I’m actually done with life, and oblivion is something I’m fine with. That way I won’t be disapointed if there’s no post-organic afterlife the non tech way.

My way in life, is my way in life. If i were to sum up one point out of all of this it would be that saying everyone is right and there are 1000 ways to heaven is completely wrong and doesn’t make any sense. I would try to expand on that more but i feel like being a scientist, politician, engineer, world changer, and/or a conservative is more important. It’s not.

Be a force for change in this world. Its the only life we are GUARANTEED. Sitting on your ass because you will be rewarded in an afterlife you cannot say for certain even exists, its one hell of a gamble, and one hell of a wasted life if you’re wrong.

Just do what you do in the name of Jesus, because you’re supposed to take your faith where ever you may be.

I do what I do in the name of ME. Because I have faith in me, and my ability to get things done. I have faith in my peers because they have proven demonstratably their ideas work as much as mine do. We have documentation, we can assemble it and prove it works. No scripture, no preaching, cold hard fact.

There is a very few amount of things in this world that will fulfill you to this end. I said christianity and an anti-justice clan can work hand in hand, but you don’t see that God’s works can do miracles.

If he can, isn’t it about time he did one? He’s one hell of a lazy bastard if he can, cos he ain’t done any yet. But then you are lazy as all hell and you are following in his footsteps, so I suppose that fits.

You just think that without God, you can do what you want to make this world a better place. You try releasing 27 million underaged girls from sex slavery then come back and tell me how much of the world you’ve changed.

27 million? Either its gone down a LOT or you don’t bother to check your sources. Assuming you even know what a source is.

So because you can’t save everyone with a wave of your hand, you won’t try saving anyone. You see a kid drowning in a pool. Your response clearly is to wave cheerfully and watch them drown. You can’t save everyone, so you’re not going to try and save anyone. That’s charming that is. A real menace to everyone around you.

Yes. 27 million. and bitch please..i know what i source is. go to enditmovement.com and see how many people are trying to stop it. You, have no part of society, because you spend all this time saying you’re doing something on a forum, when in fact you’re not actually doing anything becaue if you have you would’ve said you did. How can you say that God is a lazy bastard? What the hell did he ever do to you.

Also, i never EVER said i was going to an after life just because i was sitting on my ass. For one, i believe that every person on this earth should have a perfect relationship with God. But people like you, who believe in things you know are darkness and you know are not in the realm of God because you simply do not believe in Him, spread things like: “God is a lazy bastard and logic is better than the creator.” If i may say that you’re life is going in an opposite direction there is no possible way for you to ever believe in God and to ever have his grace upon you because you try so hard to find ways to say the things you say to prove his non-existence, when i bet in real life you do nothing but sit on YOUR ass all day. I have reasons I believe in God. I’ve had things happen to me that are almost impossible to explain and i know for a fact that God the creator is watching the world every second, and i see the people he’s saved and i see the people who aren’t saved. It doesn’t make sense when you say “because you can’t save everyone with a wave of your hand.” It doesn’t make sense at all because you try no effort what so ever to read the bible and to know what makes sense and to know what doesn’t make sense. Clearly, that statement makes 0 sense. Your whole argument actually makes 0 sense. I have people to back me up and to use as resources, i have a whole realm of things i can study from and understand about christianity. You on the other hand cancel christianity out of every equation possible on this planet. I encourage everyone to study this earth as scientists and as physicians, i just hate it when people like you use those things as ways to shoot the image of God in the face.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Does God exists? and why?

Originally posted by vikaTae:
Originally posted by XxsamuroxX:
Originally posted by vikaTae:

Yes, i can prove it. Because rejecting God and taking the highway only leads to death. You can do all you want in your lifetime but it will only last 80 or so years. On your belief, there’s no after life. Good luck with your 80 years of changing the world.

Your way leads to death too. Although closer to 60 years than 80 in my case, given I’m 34 now. You have as much evidence there is an afterlife as I do.

At least my way has a good chance of giving an afterlife, as we create one technologically. Your way, you just twiddle your thumbs and hope other people have done the work in setting it up cos you cannot be assed to.

Youre not going to do anything to help others whilst you’re here. That’s not your job. You’ll just watch them suffer and get off on it – as your inner daddy instructs, free will is to be directed at praying to him, not on changing anything in the world around you.

That was your actual argument before you try to backtrack, that free will is not to be used to change anything you see happening around you.

So you’re a leech in life, and we’re all thankful when you shuffle off into death. Sounds a really ‘wonderful’ way to live life, it really does. But hey, at least you’re not actively trying to stop those of us who are fighting to make things better.

You cannot say whether your way has a better chance of having an after life. Those things were already figured out before you were born. You cannot create afterlife, and you cannot play God like that. This isn’t my way. Being on the computer isn’t the way i’m going. My way in life, is my way in life. If i were to sum up one point out of all of this it would be that saying everyone is right and there are 1000 ways to heaven is completely wrong and doesn’t make any sense. I would try to expand on that more but i feel like being a scientist, politician, engineer, world changer, and/or a conservative is more important. It’s not. Just do what you do in the name of Jesus, because you’re supposed to take your faith where ever you may be. There is a very few amount of things in this world that will fulfill you to this end. I said christianity and an anti-justice clan can work hand in hand, but you don’t see that God’s works can do miracles. You just think that without God, you can do what you want to make this world a better place. You try releasing 27 million underaged girls from sex slavery then come back and tell me how much of the world you’ve changed.