Murder_Machine
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
What's the last book you've read?
Jack The Ripper Unmasked by William Beadle.
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Murder_Machine
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
The "fat acceptance" movement and why people are so apt to defend an unhealthy lifestyle
at least to me as someone who is overweight, i just want the same respect anyone else gets. that’s it. I think that’s what the fat acceptance thing should be about. It shouldn’t be body-shaming thin people or whining about thin privilege. I don’t like thin-shaming as when I was slowly recovering from anorexia and was finally at a healthy weight people would be like “eww you look like a skeleton here eat this you skinny slut” or “dogs like bones, men like meat” (1. dog like meat AND bones and 2. as if I give a shit what someone else think men like, you just want everyone to live up to your standards so you don’t have to do something about your own insecurities) and it was really hurtful. I think we all deserve some basic respect. If you are obese to the point where it causes diabetes and other problems and you have a “gunt”, how is that healthy at every size? if you think skinny people arne’t healthy at their size why should they be forced to think you are healthy at yours?
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Murder_Machine
400 posts
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Topic: Swords & Potions /
Looking For A Guild?
Madame Murder Merchants is recruiting
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Murder_Machine
400 posts
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Topic: Swords & Potions /
Guild recruiting
Originally posted by KILLERNANO132132:
Hello.
Sorry about this, but I believe there is another thread for Guild advertising and people looking for Guilds so that these types of threads were not everywhere. Please use it instead.
Thank you.
sorry, i don’t use the forums much so i had no idea, thanks for letting me know
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Murder_Machine
400 posts
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Topic: Swords & Potions /
Guild recruiting
Madame Murder Merchants has several spaces free for active players who are in the process of upgrading their shop. Come to Swords And Potions #01 and ask me for an invite!
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Murder_Machine
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Is having sex at the age of 12 right
if you’re 12 and having sex with another 12 year old, I guess that’s not too bad though I still think it’s a bad idea, but if you’re like 20 and having sex with a 12 year old that’s even worse, you’re taking advantage of the child’s immaturity and lack of understanding of the situation that led to them consenting in the first place if they did.
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Murder_Machine
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Murder_Machine
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Topic: Off-topic /
Pick two traits in your ideal (wo)man
I’m asexual so I don’t really have much interest in finding someone but for my hypothetical partner I’d just want them to be kind and charitable people who would drop everything to help someone in need.
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Murder_Machine
400 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Should Learning Another Language At School Be Compulsory
here in Australia the Gillard government wants to introduce languages like Hindi and Indonesian to schools because the people who speak those languages are meant to be our most important trade partners. I’m all for multiple languages being taught in school but they shouldn’t get priority over the official language of the country. Science shows us that children who grow up in bilingual or multilingual households learn better and I think if we can have 2 official languages (i.e. English and Indonesian) and make signs bilingual and everything and have people speaking more than one language at home, that would be great, however we do need to address problems people already have with English (like the people who confuse your and you’re) and make sure any curriculum puts extra emphasis on making sure people are prepared for life by being able to read and write at a reasonable level. What are your thoughts on the topic?
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Murder_Machine
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Murder_Machine
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Topic: Off-topic /
Do you consider your life good or bad?
i have food, shelter, clean water and i get money for clothes and stuff but I suffer chronic pain so bad it nearly cripples me. i have trouble accessing medical services because I can’t afford to go private for everything but the public health system is terrible. it took 6 years to have my wisdom teeth removed and i can only see my specialist twice a year unless i go private, but she doesn’t bulk-bill so I can’t afford it. i can’t get in to see my GP most of the time but she’s great, we talk to her on the phone and she writes up prescriptions for the medication we need (I live off 6 panadeine forte a day the pain is so bad). i face a lot of financial difficulties as I am paying back a loan I took out so I could get a new camera after the last one gave up the ghost and everything is so expensive (groceries came to $77 and I don’t even buy meat or anything expensive).
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Murder_Machine
400 posts
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Topic: Off-topic /
Windows 8 is ugly
Windows 8 is more suited for tablets and smart phones not for PCs. it’ll be the new Vista, everyone will hate it.
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Murder_Machine
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Languages?
Originally posted by basicbasic:
It does. When I use spell check on my computer I use English UK, not English US and I don’t think there is even an option for ‘Australian English’
I really don’t see what you guys are ranting on about, English (especially when watched on TV) is basically the same, its the accents that make it sound different. For example, I say dance without the U and I use UK English. In the end is doesn’t really matter which one you use since you generally have the spelling, you use the same words (with exclusion of stuff like ‘Diaper’ and ‘Candy’ [Though I hear people saying the latter more and more nowadays]) and we all understand each other fairly well. I think you guys are just making a mountain out of a molehill.
You can download Australian English for firefox from their website. they have dictionaries for many dialects. my spell check gives me US English but I add the British spellings to my dictionary.
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Murder_Machine
400 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Feminism and Sexual Equality
Originally posted by Jantonaitis:
@Murder machine, Sharangir
For honest criticism of the feminist movement, by an active feminist, try this. Here’s a pdf by a different scholar that covers similar ground.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but all the links you two posted are bullshit. Feminism is in need of criticism, yes, but not from fucking reddit. On the other side of that, feminism is in need of criticism, because criticism makes stuff stronger. You’re just as much a dipshit if you believe wholeheartedly in the MR movement – self indulgent whining disguised as ‘egalitarianism’, very good! – as you would be if you think there’s nothing wrong with modern western feminism.
I don’t take all my criticism of feminism from reddit. Do we need to make feminism stronger? It’s already claiming it’s about “social equality”. Yeah, make women more socially equal than men. As for self-indulgent whining, how is complaining about unfair treatment self-indulgent whining? I’d say tumble feminists do all the self-indulgent whining “WHY DO MEN NOT FIND ME ATTRACTIVE…OMG YOU LOOKED AT ME YOU MISOGYNIST RAPIST!”
I did not say anywhere that MR is egalitarianism. Egalitarianism is wanting equal rights for everyone. if you whole-heartedly believe in “modern western feminism” you are a dipshit. What is wrong with men complaining about unfair treatment? Switch the sexes and that’s pretty much how “feminism” started. it’s ok for women to bitch and moan constantly but if a man so much as points out he’s got problems everyone shits on him.
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Murder_Machine
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Bullying isn't right.
Bullying may not be “right” but you’ll never get rid of it. no amount of anti-bullying facebook pages or petitions will stop it. people are just prats and just like animals we pick on those who don’t follow the crowd.
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Murder_Machine
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
is killing yourself cowardly
if suicide or being tortured to death because o your beliefs are the only options I’d take suicide. I don’t always see it as a way out unless the only other option is death anyway.
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Murder_Machine
400 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Feminism and Sexual Equality
Originally posted by axlkoegoskyeg:
Originally posted by Murder_Machine:
Originally posted by helltank:
Sharangir:The law says that it’s okay for women to rape men. Obviously that indicates that they think women can’t rape men, therefore they’re biased towards men.
OR MAYBE IT’S BECAUSE THEY’RE BIASED TOWARDS WOMEN BECAUSE THEY ALLOW THEM TO RAPE WHOMEVER THEY LIKE
finally a comment not full of stupid. i hate the tumblr generation whose idea of sexual equality is “feminism will solve all men’s problems and any problems it doesn’t solve are due to patriarchy and men being rapists. anyone who disagrees with me is a misogynist.”.
To helltank: If you can give me some reasonable evidence of that, I will gladly agree with you. For not sure where you live, but speaking as someone who has a Brazian lawyer for a mother, and a Brazilian district atternay( This is what they call it where you live, right? ) for a father, I dont remember EVER hearing of such a thing…
And to Murder: That depends: What definition of feminism are we using here? I am totally for equal rights, which is what the variety of feminism described in the OP intends to. But I really dislike those arrogant woman who act as if man such as myself were primitive beings. I mean, when are people going to learn equal means EQUAL?
i’m talking about the tumblr kids who think radical feminism is the solution to all gender problems and that all men are Schrodinger’s rapist. If you are for equal rights check out egalitarianism. i think a lot of people who identify as feminists would be egalitarian if they knew what it was. I don’t think people are equal yet, we have a long way to go. Girls and boys should be taught from a young age that while they’re different, that’s what makes them awesome and they should respect each other’s differences rather than be afraid of it. we need to ignore people who scream rape and misogyny if you so much as talk to them (Rebecca Watson), stop giving them attention. i wouldn’t say feminism is equal rights, equal rights is Egalitarianism. For women who get called whores online and whine about it, why is that considered out of the ordinary? You go online, there’s always going to be idiots, the idiots will call you names and say disgusting things. they need to ignore it and it will stop. as long as there are articles like on jezebel complaining about trolls, that’s just giving the trolls more ammo.
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Murder_Machine
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Attention all vegans and vegitarians!!
Sharangir is quite fond of crying rape about everything, as most 15 year old skepchick bisexual goth pagan tumblr feminists are.
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Murder_Machine
400 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Languages?
Originally posted by Galdos:
what im saying is that all the schools in all the world should start to convert to english
becasue englis is the working world languaggeaaa
what about in countries like Iran or Iraq that hate Westerners/ should we go storm them and force them to speak perfect American English with no hint of an accent at all? I can imagine that’ll cause more problems than they have now. would you like it if someone came in to your house and “converted” you to another language and made you learn it and hit you every time you spoke American English?
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Murder_Machine
400 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Feminism and Sexual Equality
Originally posted by helltank:
Sharangir:The law says that it’s okay for women to rape men. Obviously that indicates that they think women can’t rape men, therefore they’re biased towards men.
OR MAYBE IT’S BECAUSE THEY’RE BIASED TOWARDS WOMEN BECAUSE THEY ALLOW THEM TO RAPE WHOMEVER THEY LIKE
finally a comment not full of stupid. i hate the tumblr generation whose idea of sexual equality is “feminism will solve all men’s problems and any problems it doesn’t solve are due to patriarchy and men being rapists. anyone who disagrees with me is a misogynist.”.
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Murder_Machine
400 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Feminism and Sexual Equality
Originally posted by Sharangir:
Originally posted by Murder_Machine:
Originally posted by Sharangir:
Originally posted by Galdos:
Originally posted by Sharangir:
I’m a male and identify as feminist. I think women are human beings and think they should be treated as such. I will fight against patriarchy, gender roles, rape culture and plain misogynist behavior whenever I can and will constantly push people around me to do the same.
None of us are free until all of us are free.
I also think that Beegum needs to stop mansplaining feminists what feminism is.
Why not “identify” as an equalist?
Like you said “None of us are free until all of us are free”. So you should fight for “true” equality. Men are ALSO being oppressed. In fact, women actually have more rights than men and EVERYTHING favors them (airports, courts, etc.).
So, start fighting for mens rights too.
Here is a website that might help you out: avoiceformen.com
Bullshit, men are not oppressed, they run the place. The MR movement is a hategroup that wants to remove rights for women and undermine all work the feminist movement has done. Now piss off and go hold rallies with the KKK about white rights and whine how multi-culturalism is ruining whitey’s world.
ahh the old strawman. anything that opposes modern feminism is a hate group. I’m involved with the MR and can tell you they are not a hate group at all, this is a common troll tactic by feminists. “rape culture” and “patriarchy” are also feminist nonsense too. before you scream at me “YOU’RE A MAN YOU HAVE NO PROBLEMS”
Who said men have no problems? Men face plenty of problems. I said men are not oppressed. None of the problems that men have are caused by being oppressed as a man.
, I’d like to point out I’m a disabled, overweight, ginger female.
Okay?
MR does not wish to remove women’s rights, the trolls in the group go along with that but they don’t. they want women to vote, have their say, etc. but they don’t see feminism as the solution to their problems. tell me how all that attention and money being thrown at breast cancer and pink ribbons but hardly any at prostate cancer is equal?
Tell me how men not caring about their prostate cancer problems is feminism's fault? Or cause of men being oppressed? Maybe they should raise awareness instead of complaining about how other people are raising awareness for their problems.
or all those battered women’s shelters but hardly any battered men’s shelters is equal?
The majority of domestic violence victims are females, these females needed a shelter, a shelter has been provided by females for females. Despite of all the men SABOTAGING THE EFFORTS AND DISMISSING THE SERIOUSNESS OF IT.
courts favour the mother in custody cases even if she’s a crazy bitch.
No they don't. And even if they did, women being viewed as the primary caregiver is internalized misogyny, a problem caused by patriarchy. Who wants to get rid of patriarchy? Feminism.
men are not covered by many US rape laws and the laws often say rape is only man-on-woman, women can’t rape men and men can’t be raped by other men.
This one is partly true. The rape definition is the following: The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.
What does this cover? This covers man-on-woman, man-on-man, and woman-on-man with objects but not envelopment, and woman-on-woman with objects but not without penetration.
So what does this mean? This means that society thinks women aren't capable of committing rape. In other words: this stems from internalized misogyny and this problem can be tackled by smashing patriarchy. Which movement addresses patriarchy? Still feminism. MR movement still denies its existence.
recommended reading read everything, look the comments. read the FAQ.
Oh, I know about the subreddit. How do you think I know it's a hategroup? I just made it up? No, their backwards thinking appears everywhere. Pretending that men are oppressed is much easier than giving up sexist behavior, so the MR movement got really popular on reddit. They're not a rights movement, they're a take-other-people's-rights-away Movement.
And there's also this: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/misogyny-the-sites
Also, remember when that subreddit wanted to start a debate between MR and feminists, but seeing as that's the same shit as organizing a debate between the KKK and the civil-rights movement, no feminist was going to show up.. So they decided to let other MR people argue for the feminists? Yeah, haha, sounds like the exact definition of a circle jerk to me.
Here's some more jewels:
http://manboobz.com/2012/08/19/mens-rights-redditors-we-dont-mind-your-racist-hysteria-but-dont-you-ever-try-to-creep-shame-us/
http://manboobz.com/2012/08/18/redditors-gamer-girls-need-to-stop-complaining-about-being-called-sluts-and-whores/
http://manboobz.com/2012/08/16/girlwriteswhat-on-the-necessity-of-domestic-violence-i-dont-really-find-too-much-thats-seriously-ethically-questionable/
nobody in the MR dismisses domestic violence they want people to acknowledge that they are victims too. if battered women need a shelter why don't battered men? If you're so concerned about "smashing partiarchy" why not join MR and help them get rid of such nonsense? I bet you're one of those tumblr feminists who has never had to complain about not being allowed to wear trousers to class or losing their job because they got married. I am an egalitarian, I believe in equal rights for all regardless of gender. i support rights for men, women, intersex, trans, etc. since you gave a site pissing about supposed misogyny websites here's one that exposes misandric sites. http://antimisandry.com/feminist-flipside/misandry-sites-wont-back-up-their-lies-1239.html#axzz2A6Zh4QbU
oh that's right anything that isn't feminist is hateful and must be smashed. typical.
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Murder_Machine
400 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Feminism and Sexual Equality
Originally posted by Sharangir:
Originally posted by Murder_Machine:
Originally posted by Sharangir:
Originally posted by Galdos:
Originally posted by Sharangir:
I’m a male and identify as feminist. I think women are human beings and think they should be treated as such. I will fight against patriarchy, gender roles, rape culture and plain misogynist behavior whenever I can and will constantly push people around me to do the same.
None of us are free until all of us are free.
I also think that Beegum needs to stop mansplaining feminists what feminism is.
Why not “identify” as an equalist?
Like you said “None of us are free until all of us are free”. So you should fight for “true” equality. Men are ALSO being oppressed. In fact, women actually have more rights than men and EVERYTHING favors them (airports, courts, etc.).
So, start fighting for mens rights too.
Here is a website that might help you out: avoiceformen.com
Bullshit, men are not oppressed, they run the place. The MR movement is a hategroup that wants to remove rights for women and undermine all work the feminist movement has done. Now piss off and go hold rallies with the KKK about white rights and whine how multi-culturalism is ruining whitey’s world.
ahh the old strawman. anything that opposes modern feminism is a hate group. I’m involved with the MR and can tell you they are not a hate group at all, this is a common troll tactic by feminists. “rape culture” and “patriarchy” are also feminist nonsense too. before you scream at me “YOU’RE A MAN YOU HAVE NO PROBLEMS”
Who said men have no problems? Men face plenty of problems. I said men are not oppressed. None of the problems that men have are caused by being oppressed as a man.
, I’d like to point out I’m a disabled, overweight, ginger female.
Okay?
MR does not wish to remove women’s rights, the trolls in the group go along with that but they don’t. they want women to vote, have their say, etc. but they don’t see feminism as the solution to their problems. tell me how all that attention and money being thrown at breast cancer and pink ribbons but hardly any at prostate cancer is equal?
Tell me how men not caring about their prostate cancer problems is feminism's fault? Or cause of men being oppressed? Maybe they should raise awareness instead of complaining about how other people are raising awareness for their problems.
or all those battered women’s shelters but hardly any battered men’s shelters is equal?
The majority of domestic violence victims are females, these females needed a shelter, a shelter has been provided by females for females. Despite of all the men SABOTAGING THE EFFORTS AND DISMISSING THE SERIOUSNESS OF IT.
courts favour the mother in custody cases even if she’s a crazy bitch.
No they don't. And even if they did, women being viewed as the primary caregiver is internalized misogyny, a problem caused by patriarchy. Who wants to get rid of patriarchy? Feminism.
men are not covered by many US rape laws and the laws often say rape is only man-on-woman, women can’t rape men and men can’t be raped by other men.
This one is partly true. The rape definition is the following: The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.
What does this cover? This covers man-on-woman, man-on-man, and woman-on-man with objects but not envelopment, and woman-on-woman with objects but not without penetration.
So what does this mean? This means that society thinks women aren't capable of committing rape. In other words: this stems from internalized misogyny and this problem can be tackled by smashing patriarchy. Which movement addresses patriarchy? Still feminism. MR movement still denies its existence.
recommended reading read everything, look the comments. read the FAQ.
Oh, I know about the subreddit. How do you think I know it's a hategroup? I just made it up? No, their backwards thinking appears everywhere. Pretending that men are oppressed is much easier than giving up sexist behavior, so the MR movement got really popular on reddit. They're not a rights movement, they're a take-other-people's-rights-away Movement.
And there's also this: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/misogyny-the-sites
Also, remember when that subreddit wanted to start a debate between MR and feminists, but seeing as that's the same shit as organizing a debate between the KKK and the civil-rights movement, no feminist was going to show up.. So they decided to let other MR people argue for the feminists? Yeah, haha, sounds like the exact definition of a circle jerk to me.
Here's some more jewels:
http://manboobz.com/2012/08/19/mens-rights-redditors-we-dont-mind-your-racist-hysteria-but-dont-you-ever-try-to-creep-shame-us/
http://manboobz.com/2012/08/18/redditors-gamer-girls-need-to-stop-complaining-about-being-called-sluts-and-whores/
http://manboobz.com/2012/08/16/girlwriteswhat-on-the-necessity-of-domestic-violence-i-dont-really-find-too-much-thats-seriously-ethically-questionable/
women in the Western world are not oppressed if men aren't.i would agree with manboobz, girl gamers should stop whining that people are calling them names. learn to ignore it. i copped abuse for being female when i started gaming but did i cry to everyone how it's the fault of men? no, i ignored it or trolled them back. Give me actual proof it is a hate group out to "undo" women's rights. show me all the proof that feminism, which is abvout making things better for FEMALES will solve all MALE problems. You decided it was a hategroup because you are buying in to bullshit. I have not seen anything hateful besides the occasional Manhood Academy troll who gets told to bugger off. How is campaigning for men's rights taking away your rights as a woman? I have not seen any evidence besides a link to South Poverty Law Center. SPLC is full of shit. i've been involved with MR for a while. I don't see any "conspiracy theories". they don't get "angry" at anything designed to help women, they bemoan a lack of services for men. tell me why there are so many battered women's shelters, so much help for women, but if a man wants help he has to go sleep on the street? patriarchy is used as an excuse for everything with you feminists. I have not seen any proof that a voice for men, the spearhead or /r/MensRights is a hate group. you know what happens when men try to draw attention to their problems? feminists chime in "hey we have vaginas therefore you have no problems, stop being sexist!" why is it ok for feminists to scream sexism and misogyny at everything but if a man feels he is being discriminated against for being a guy everyone calls him sexist?
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Murder_Machine
400 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Languages?
Originally posted by Galdos:
there should only be one language. language is about communicating and relay information as quickly and effieciently as possible. all other countries should be converted to english. “culture” is for idiots and the source of many problems.
lot of english words should also be edited to get rid off the tremendous amount of redundencies in words(like certain silent letters are a waste to read. like the word “smash” – it doesnt need a “h”.
get rid of all these elder people that enforce these language rules)
become the machine.
wearing earrings means you follow ancient paths of attractions and cave life. I choose to evolve and not use primitive behaviour.
it’s not as simple as “convert everyone to English”, you have to know their language to be able to teach them yours or they’ll just take it as you’re an ass and chase you off. imagine you and everyone around you spoke English then suddenly all these people come at you out of nowhere and start screaming at you in another language and kill people who don’t understand or learn fast enough. language development is interesting. I believe all languages are connected in some way or another and can all be traced back to one mother language. as people started moving along and discovering new things, they would create new words for things and eventually have their own language to identify who they are.
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Murder_Machine
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Amanda Todd
I wonder where her parents were through all this? did they not know what she was doing online? did they have any idea she was sleeping with other girls’ boyfriends? were they aware of her drug abuse?
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Murder_Machine
400 posts
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Topic: Serious Discussion /
Feminism and Sexual Equality
Originally posted by Sharangir:
Originally posted by Galdos:
Originally posted by Sharangir:
I’m a male and identify as feminist. I think women are human beings and think they should be treated as such. I will fight against patriarchy, gender roles, rape culture and plain misogynist behavior whenever I can and will constantly push people around me to do the same.
None of us are free until all of us are free.
I also think that Beegum needs to stop mansplaining feminists what feminism is.
Why not “identify” as an equalist?
Like you said “None of us are free until all of us are free”. So you should fight for “true” equality. Men are ALSO being oppressed. In fact, women actually have more rights than men and EVERYTHING favors them (airports, courts, etc.).
So, start fighting for mens rights too.
Here is a website that might help you out: avoiceformen.com
Bullshit, men are not oppressed, they run the place. The MR movement is a hategroup that wants to remove rights for women and undermine all work the feminist movement has done. Now piss off and go hold rallies with the KKK about white rights and whine how multi-culturalism is ruining whitey’s world.
ahh the old strawman. anything that opposes modern feminism is a hate group. I’m involved with the MR and can tell you they are not a hate group at all, this is a common troll tactic by feminists. “rape culture” and “patriarchy” are also feminist nonsense too. before you scream at me “YOU’RE A MAN YOU HAVE NO PROBLEMS”, I’d like to point out I’m a disabled, overweight, ginger female. MR does not wish to remove women’s rights, the trolls in the group go along with that but they don’t. they want women to vote, have their say, etc. but they don’t see feminism as the solution to their problems. tell me how all that attention and money being thrown at breast cancer and pink ribbons but hardly any at prostate cancer is equal? or all those battered women’s shelters but hardly any battered men’s shelters is equal? courts favour the mother in custody cases even if she’s a crazy bitch. men are not covered by many US rape laws and the laws often say rape is only man-on-woman, women can’t rape men and men can’t be raped by other men.
recommended reading read everything, look the comments. read the FAQ.
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