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Topic: Serious Discussion / Slavery is ok in the bible

People are typically more educated now than then. Perhaps then, certain people could not be reasoned with like they might today.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Slavery is ok in the bible

Well, not all slavery in the Bible was one sided. Many slaves were in fact indentured servants who had to pay off a debt.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Slavery is ok in the bible

Originally posted by jim_vierling:

One of my favorite sites: http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/

There are also links at the top to their versions of the Koran and the Book of Mormon.

For slavery references I would start in either the Injustice or the Cruelty and violence sections under highlights.

The writer of this website has very poor understanding of the Bible. He uses differing translations and misinterpreting vocabulary in order to “prove” the absurdity of the Bible. He makes assumptions based on unproven science, since no science is proven, only supported or unsupported. He also does not take into account the differences between people, places, and circumstances between now and then. Many annotations are far fetched in their poking and prodding at the Bible and frankly not very intelligently written. I found many grammatical and spelling mistakes.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Your opinions of Abortion

Originally posted by ExemplaryReturns:

I think that abortion is murder.

This gives me the right to control what women do with their body because

The fetus is not their body. It is not made of her cells, only half of it is hers. So using that argument, she can only abort half the fetus.

Topic: Serious Discussion / SOCIALISM: the pros & cons

Originally posted by ExemplaryReturns:

Socialism is good because its just everyone helping each other out.

Capitalism is all about being greedy and therefor goes against Jesus’s teachings.

Discuss

“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” -Winston Churchill

It sounds friendly and nice when you say, “Helping each other out”, but it is does not work in conjunction with human nature. People naturally work harder to benefit themselves rather than someone else. If it does not matter how hard you work, you can only ever be a little bit wealthier than the poorest people in the country, what incentive is there to work harder and make breakthroughs in your field of work? Capitalism maximizes production, quality, and drives price down because if someone else makes it better and cheaper than you, they get business. Capitalism is portrayed as greedy, but that is a skewed, obtuse perspective. Most people are quicker to spend someone else’s money than the money they worked for themselves. And whos to say that someone who is wealthy cannot give to the poor themselves? The government is never the most efficient method in distributing things like this or determining who rightfully deserves it. I believe that the individual would know better who needs and deserves the money. Neither do government officials, some of whom have never had a real job nor completed high school, know better than doctors and scientists what medical procedures are necessary or how to run a hospital for that matter. Just look at public education; I dont want medical care to be like that.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun Issues

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/12/two_injured_in.php
http://www.ksat.com/news/Man-charged-in-shooting-at-San-Antonio-movie-theater/-/478452/17800466/-/format/rsss_2.0/-/vnl74fz/-/index.html

I am not sure if this has been addressed. There was a recent shooting in San Antonio, Texas. The shooter fired upon police and wounded a bystander before an off duty deputy shot him four times. He is expected to recover.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Homosexuality/Bisexuality - Genetic, Choice or Learned?

Well, I’m no troll, but the “gay gene” has no supporting evidence though scientific study, even after mapping the human genome. The recent major studies claiming it to be real were bogus for several reasons whether it be fudged numbers or experiments without controls. It may seem like it isn’t a choice, but it isn’t genetic.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Are you a good person?

You can quote a book without reading it. You can also quote a book without understanding it which seems to be what you are doing. Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophets; therefore, we are not bound by the mosaic law which includes the 10 commandments. If you want to preach the Gospel, at least understand what the Bible says by studying it closely and not just picking out the really interesting parts. Also, the Bible says that, “All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.”, but nothing about the 10 commandments.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Are you a good person?

422537, I am afraid your comments are falling on deaf ears on this forum, assuming you actually believe what you are saying yourself. Speaking on behalf of informed Christians, please refrain from making such seemingly ignorant posts in the name of our religion. Again, assuming you are not a troll, your comments have good intentions, but please know your audience. They wont respond to religious jargon or maudlin, rhetoric comments. If you want to debate here, get to know your history, current scientific studies, and please, please actually read the book you are preaching if you are serious.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Obamacare Causes Companies to Cut Hours

Reducing profits to compensate for additional costs is completely contradictory to what commerce and business is for. Putting more costs on all producers will raise prices, lower product quality, or lower money going to employees whether it be by lowering hours or number of employees. The entire extra cost on all producers cannot and will not be compensated only by profits of all those businesses and to think so is idealistic thinking. Businesses operate first and foremost to make profits, not attend to the needs of the employees. That is the result. It sounds harsh and cruel, but its true. People inherently work for themselves first and others later, even if it should be the other way around.
Additionally, Health Care is a privilege not a right.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

Originally posted by kingboy906:

I say that if you want to be with someone of the same sex than go ahead. I don’t see why people want to make it illegal. It does not affect you. If that’s what they want then let them.

Warning: I am about to drop a big o’l Hypothetical here
When a person dies, their spouse gets their property tax free (not including the death tax or many other taxes included in the funeral process). Now lets say I love my pet or child and want to marry them. Well if the homosexuals can get married then I ought to be able to right? So I get a bunch of people who feel the same way and stir up controversy claiming that I should have the right to marry who I please because this is America and the state should recognize it! Then when I die, my children receive my property inheritance tax free and the cycle can continue.

This is a projected problem that has come from this argument. (I am not even arguing for or against this, I am just bringing a point to attention) I’m not saying its 100% probable if gay marriage is legalized but crazier things have been proposed before. To answer your question, its hypotheses like this that make people want to keep it illegal in order to prevent things that might come as a result, but that’s not the only reason. Some just disagree with the philosophy and others just don’t care one way or the other.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Yep, that's right—another shooting in the United States. 4 killed in Minneapolis shooting

Don’t foget to consider the size difference between the afore mentioned countries and the U.S. when comparing homocide rates.

Topic: Serious Discussion / How can we deal with the Muslim overreactions?

I dont think the “muslim problem” the original post was talking about is determining what is a good representation of their religion would be, but rather what to actually do with the people who don’t necessarily account for all muslims but do call themselves muslim that keep “flying off the handle”, radicals you have dubbed them, and do indeed call for blood, because they do exist.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Creation vs. Evolution

But Jesus couldn’t be killed. They tried it and he came back. That’s the whole point. (That doesn’t, by the way, make him a zombie)

Topic: Off-topic / A series of Moral questions

1. I never cheat because that’s lying and doesn’t help me at all.
2. I would never become a hit man but, no I would not kill him. I would probably find a way to protect him knowing that my life would be on the line as well.
3. I shoot the man threatening my manager. If I have the power to stop someone from killing unjustly, I will.
4. That is not a moral question, but I would probably not try to protect the animals. (realistically I would grab the rifle from the truck and shoot the coyote)
5. I would definitely take the hit even if she wasn’t pregnant.

Topic: Off-topic / How often do you say "please", "excuse-me", "sorry" or "thank you/thanks"?

What ever happened to “Yes ma’am, No Ma’am” and “Yes sir, No sir”?? I say those in addition to the other things all the time because other people deserve my respect and using sir and ma’am are a way to show respect to someone older than myself. Its also respectful to take your hat of inside if you’re a male, stand up when a lady enters a room or when you greet someone, wait for everyone to be served to begin eating, hold the door open for someone behind you, and to take your hat off and shake someones hand when meeting them the first time.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Supreme Court Decision on Obama's Health Care Law

Originally posted by Narrenburg:

Imagine paying a tax that not only helps you individually, but helps you by helping others. That’s not just great, that’s somewhat philanthropic!

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EDIT: Benu deleted the post I’m responding to. LOL.

(I deleted it before I saw your reply.)

That sounds really nice and lovely, but its not that easy, I’m afraid.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Is circumcision good, or bad?

If I had to guess, he was referring to abortions in a situation of non life-threatening pregnancies. Those cases are below 1% of abortions.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Supreme Court Decision on Obama's Health Care Law

Originally posted by Narrenburg:

What Republicans are too rash (not stupid) to realise is that the public option fixes the problem that the individual mandate creates. No one has to buy into a private sector to be provided healthcare. Instead, we all pay for it with taxes.

One could make the argument:

What if I’m healthy? Do I still have to pay the tax?

To those asking that question, I can ask:

Why do you pay taxes for education? It’s not like you’re going to grade school anymore.

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I’m the kind of person who would’ve opted for more public healthcare legislation. Then again, the Supreme Court shouldn’t include their opinions, and I wouldn’t include mine if I were in Justice Roberts’ shoes.

The thing is, I do mind paying for public education. I believe that it would bring our education up to par with other countries if it was to be privatized. But that aside, its not that people pay for public education so obviously they shouldn’t mind paying for public healthcare, what one more thing right?. Its that in addition to public education, they would also be paying for healthcare, food, housing, transportation, communication, and just about everything else for the people on the receiving end. This has already happened in many other countries. We don’t have to predict what this will do to a country, we can look at other cases and see exactly what could happen.

Topic: Serious Discussion / 1...2..3...4..i declare RELIGION WAR!

Why dont we have a thread that debates Islam or something else for once. Yall have sort of worn out Christianity.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Some questions.

Originally posted by EPR89:

Originally posted by Benu01:

“You shall not murder”*

Assuming killing off nearly all life on Earth because you think that it’s not the way you imagined it would/should be is not murder.

That is the general populations understanding of the flood, yes. God killed the population of the earth because all of society was corrupt and they were all “continually plotting evil.” It was murder just like the effort to stop the Nazi’s from killing all of the Jewish people was murder.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Some questions.

“You shall not murder”*

Topic: Serious Discussion / Why do the liberal Democrats want to take guns away from Americans?

Originally posted by Geenf11:

I’m a liberal, and I’m not against safe gun owners, but sadly America is full of idiot rednecks who’s only safety is the one on the gun. Also, with current economy, hunting isn’t necessary, so the only other reason to own a gun is to shoot people. I rest my case.

You’ve missed the entire point of the 2nd amendment. The second amendment is to ensure that the people wouldn’t be helpless at the hands of a tyrannical government. If we have no way to fight ourselves, the government will have complete control over us, but as long as we have a way to fight, they will never have 100% control. If we ever need to have another revolution in other words.

Topic: Serious Discussion / I Have Lost My Faith In Democracy =(

Romney Dosent like to “fire people” probably in the sense you are thinking. He likes to fire people who aren’t suited for a job. If your barber gives you terrible hair cuts consistently, you will probably find another barber to give your business and money. That is effectively firing the first barber. When he says he likes to “Fire people” he means that he likes a capitalist way of doing things where the best one for the job at the best price wins. He Dosent just get some pleasure from ruining people’s lives as some suggest.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Do you support Mitt Romney?

Businesses going bankrupt is how the economy works. It will heal itself unless something interferes like government bailouts which it cant afford anyway.