Recent posts by player_03 on Kongregate

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Topic: Game Programming / In-game banner ads?

For one thing, Kongregate disallows in-game ads entirely.

As for displaying ads during gameplay vs. in the menus, I’m not sure. Perhaps Flash developers don’t want to distract players from the gameplay (artistic integrity or whatever). Perhaps mobile users are used to it, so mobile developers can get away with it.

 
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Topic: General Gaming / Strangest Game You Have Ever Played?

At least half of the games here qualify. No Time to Explain, Treadmillasaurus Rex, Lucky Tower, Seed of Distruction, The I of It, Enough Plumbers, and so on.

There are a lot of games with weird premises; I’d be hard pressed to pick only one.

“Okay, so you’re this businessman with a giant hammer…”

 
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Topic: Game Programming / Edit a game

I think it’s being updated, but your browser is caching the old version, and doesn’t know it needs to update. A common solution is to add “?1” at the end of the url of whatever files you’re changing. Because it’s a different URL, the browser loads the file from scratch rather than using the cached version. (When you update it again, replace “1” with “2”, and so on.)

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Okay... that's it... get rid of that annoying RATE THIS GAME popup that overtakes the chat room!

Originally posted by TheRealPip:

Can you show me where a Kong employee said this (or link to it or quote it)? Because I did miss that.

It was in an email conversation, but here’s a direct quote: “Maybe we could add a ‘never show this again’ checkbox after a user closes the box without rating three times?” Later, he said he’d get a story “scheduled” for it.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Okay... that's it... get rid of that annoying RATE THIS GAME popup that overtakes the chat room!

Originally posted by rinky999:

So you’re saying Kong should ignore the 2 million users who doesn’t like this feature?

No, I’m saying that fewer people than you think hate the feature, so the “kill it with fire” response isn’t justified.

By the way, “adding an opt-out option” is not the same as “ignoring the complaints.” They’re doing the former, not the latter. I suppose you missed that part?

 
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Topic: Game Programming / as3 tutorial

Originally posted by darkjonas8:

Start with as2 Kappa

Don’t start with AS2.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / DisruptorBeam Targeting/Banning Players From Forum, MORE

Summary based on the linked thread: There are server issues that prevent players from playing the game effectively. And that’s if they can log in at all.

Originally posted by GooseBolton:

My posts were NO worse than others’

Other people expressed frustration and threatened to switch to other games, but you were slinging insults at Disruptor Beam’s employees.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Okay... that's it... get rid of that annoying RATE THIS GAME popup that overtakes the chat room!

Hey, you know what? I can use statistics to get numbers that support my case too!

Start with 200 complainers in the forums. Keep in mind that people are much more likely to speak up about something they hate than something they don’t care about (self-selection bias). Keep in mind that forum-goers tend to be more opinionated than average (again, self-selection bias – people with opinions will gravitate towards a place to share said opinions).

I’ll be generous and estimate that, of all the people who dislike the feature, only a percent of a percent came here to complain about it. That works out to 2 million users who dislike it, out of 15 million. You may have calculated that 22/25 users are unhappy, but from my calculations, 2/15 is closer to the truth.

See what happens when you mess with statistics?

 
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Topic: Kongregate / DisruptorBeam Targeting/Banning Players From Forum, MORE

Originally posted by GooseBolton:

If they did no wrong, then they’d have nothing to hide.

They would prefer not to deal with frivolous legal complaints, especially when they’re busy fixing a serious problem.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / DisruptorBeam Targeting/Banning Players From Forum, MORE

Did you threaten legal action on those forums as well? Because that might be why you got banned.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Okay... that's it... get rid of that annoying RATE THIS GAME popup that overtakes the chat room!

Originally posted by rinky999:

EDIT: Just wanted to say that even though that three threads might not comprise the whole population of Kongregate, these people in these threads very well represent the player population.

Really? Because forum-goers are not a random sample.

 
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Topic: Run Mobile / help?

She disables gravity if you hold the jump button.

 
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Topic: Heroes / bronze or silver packs?

Good point(s) about buying bronze packs early on, and it’s also true that bronze packs are more cost-effective for boosting, but I wouldn’t worry too much about boosting just yet. Focus on promoting your units first.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Kongregate pet-peeves

???

Are we seeing different things?


 
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Topic: Kongregate / Kongregate pet-peeves

Originally posted by Waffles911:

I kind of wish there was at least an option they could be showcased somewhere on your profile, like achievements.

They are showcased on your profile. I checked and saw that you have 19, one of which is shiny.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Okay... that's it... get rid of that annoying RATE THIS GAME popup that overtakes the chat room!

Originally posted by Rychip:

Thank you for responding to what I said there player_03. I do actually see your points here. I obviously did do some misjudging and, as you pointed out, pretty much demonstrated fasle-consensus bias. I’m just glad you cleared things up here.

I… honestly hadn’t expected that. Not many people are willing to admit mistakes like this. Kudos.

In return, I’ll go ahead and explain the planned implementation. (Which I probably should have done in the first place…) Keeping in mind that details may change, the plan is to “add a ‘never show this again’ checkbox after a user closes the box without rating three times.”

 
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Topic: Game Programming / Flash Player Version Problem?

Originally posted by bytecombo:

Hi player_03, thanks for answering unfortunately we still can’t reproduce the bug and it was provided anonymously so we cannot ask for more information.

A subtle feature of the bug reports is that sometimes it provides a “reply to” email address (if the person reporting the bug allows it). You may be able to respond to the message and get in touch that way.

If not, then just leave it until someone else reports it.

 
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Topic: Game Programming / Multiple Users Ad Profits

Only the last four digits of your SSN, but I believe the rest of your data will be available.

It’s worth noting that the first five digits of your SSN are easier to guess than the last four. But for some reason the convention is to show the last four.

It’s probably a bad idea to share accounts. Just upload the game to one account, add the other person as a collaborator, and share the money as described in scenario 1.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Okay... that's it... get rid of that annoying RATE THIS GAME popup that overtakes the chat room!

I don’t know for sure that anyone, much less “plenty of users,” is/are ok with the popup. But… ratings went up across the board, suggesting that a lot of people don’t hate the popups. If they did, I’d have expected more 1-star votes.

Actually, I could imagine being a person who didn’t mind the popup. If a person is willing to rate the game early, and doesn’t chat much, they might take it as the friendly reminder it’s meant do be.

Add a couple people here and there who never even notice the popup, various others who deliberately ignore it, and one or two who never realized there was any other way to rate, and it adds up to “plenty of users.”

You know, “plenty” is kind of vague. Even one percent of Kongregate’s users would count as “plenty.” Not sure why you called me out on that claim rather than a more impressive one.
(For your convenience, here’s a more impressive claim: I suspect that 20-40% of users are ok with the popup, and that 30-60% feel only minimal annoyance.)

Originally posted by Rychip:

Sure, I assumed that a lot of people disliked the popup feature. I assumed that some people liked to rate games on their own accords. I’m sorry that I didn’t acknowledge that some people feel neutral about popups, or that some people love popups this much, and that they think it helps remind them to rate games. But, if you want to fight bias, don’t fight it with bias.

In order:

• It’s totally safe to assume that a lot of people hate the feature, and prefer to rate of their own accord.
• But you did more than fail to acknowledge – you ridiculed the idea that people might support the feature. That’s why I brought up the false-consensus effect in the first place.
• Just because I’m arguing with you doesn’t mean I believe the exact opposite as you. I never said anything about people loving popups.
• Neither vagueness nor assumptions are the same as bias. In fact, I think my assumptions here are pretty safe, largely due to the aforementioned vagueness. What bias(es) do you think I’m guilty of, anyway? In this thread, I mean.

Originally posted by saybox:

  • every time you rate a game you have a small change to gain 50 points instead of 1.
  • chat whisper asks you nicely to remember to rate the game you’re playing
  • make the stars bigger and mre noticeable above the game, maybe shrinking them out of the way again once you’ve given it a rating
  • for every 10 minutes you play without rating the game, one of your Kongpanions is set on fire and left outside your house

1 is kind of iffy – how would you make sure people found out about it? Not everyone reads the forums. In fact, not everyone reads the homepage. I guess you could put a popup on the game page, but that defeats the whole point.

2 sounds good for people in chat, but on the other hand I barely ever open the chat tab.

3 could work as long as the stars didn’t push the game downwards. Then the game would move up a few pixels after you rated. And that’s terrible.

4 is a bad idea and you should feel bad, and jmtb02 will love it. I’ll mention it to him.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / I only have a few days left at Kongregate

Suddenly I’m a lot less sympathetic to your cause. You aren’t even going to try to solve it?

 
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Topic: Kongregate / I only have a few days left at Kongregate

Not unless that account’s password is easy to guess. But in that case, you’d have guessed it yourself, right?

Have you tried asking your school to temporarily re-enable your email account?

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Random advice from Gravey: Being too nice and welcoming can totally ruin a chat room.

Originally posted by saybox:

Yeah, who’d ever think that people on a gaming site would want to discuss the game they’re playing? Total spam. Completely unrelated to anything. Way offtopic.

I was envisioning someone who didn’t want to discuss the game so much as discuss how awesome it is. And to flame anyone who didn’t agree.

Maybe I should have mentioned this.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Okay... that's it... get rid of that annoying RATE THIS GAME popup that overtakes the chat room!

Originally posted by PlatypusMan:

I’m starting to think player_03 is payed by Kongregate to help their image…

Picking fights in the forum helps Kongregate’s image?

No, I’m here to try and combat bias. I’ve had little success so far, but I figure if I try enough tactics, I may eventually find something that works. And when if I do, I’ll use it in a game and help de-bias a lot of people at once.

 
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Topic: Kongregate / Okay... that's it... get rid of that annoying RATE THIS GAME popup that overtakes the chat room!

Originally posted by Rychip:

I guess you came to that self-actualization, considering you deleted the “realitycheck” from your post (I still don’t know if that was for yourself, to remind yourself to actually look later and see the amount of players that frequently post in the Kongregate forum and consider how many people would support this feature, or even post their opinion on it in the first place, or if it was just some crappy way to try to offend me, it was kind of hard to tell).

It was aimed at you, and I deleted it primarily because I like to trim down my posts after writing them. (Secondarily because it was a little rude, but fortunately you’ve proven it justified.)

I agree with many of the points you made about the popups themselves, which is why I contacted the site programmers. One of them told me not to worry about it, but I pressed on, and now it’s on their “To Do” list.

What I’m telling you is that you can fall prey to the false-consensus bias even if your complaints have merit.

This bias is especially prevalent in group settings where one thinks the collective opinion of their own group matches that of the larger population. Since the members of a group reach a consensus and rarely encounter those who dispute it, they tend to believe that everybody thinks the same way.

The people on the forums are a very small subset of the community at large, and definitely not a representative subset. Kongregate understands this, and they realize that if they caved in to every complaint like this, they’d end up reverting the majority of new features. Even the features that made the site better.

There are presumably plenty of users who don’t mind this feature, and you just haven’t heard from them because they don’t feel a need to speak up.

</realitycheck>

 
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Topic: Game Programming / Multiple Users Ad Profits

Three or four years ago, I heard a suggestion that you set up a LLC and have Kongregate pay the LLC. Presumably this would still work unless the laws regarding LLCs have changed in the meantime.