Recent posts by jhco50 on Kongregate

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Why are you Atheist?

I have seen this thread go on and on and it is such a stupid thread. Who cares if one believes in God or doesn’t? It is a personal choice each person makes and is really not anyone elses business. If you choose to be an atheist, fine, keep it to yourself. Same goes for Christians. This is one of those subjects you don’t bring into discussion unless you are two peas short of a pod.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / White teen killed by black cop!!

Originally posted by tenco1:
Originally posted by masterofthegun:

Tamir Rice was asking for it by playing with a modified toy gun. The cop had no choice he had to react to his training.
* Marissa Alexander’s mistake was that she did not shoot to kill, if she killed the attacker she would have been OK legally.

You’re slipping.

EDIT: Crap, I got the wrong quote.

don’t ya just hate it when that happens?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Should intelligent animals be given more rights?????????

LOL! is this for real?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Forum needs a lesson on firearms. Here it is, Michael Brown related.

Well, hello monsewer, Took you long enough. :) So are you ready for another round of your ignorance of firearms and the laws surrounding them, against facts? I will do you a favor and research the laws of Kansas if you like. Speaking of penises, my brother was going to try Viagra and it didn’t go down. Had a stiff neck for a week. :)

So now I am skewing the results of the first bout of gun owners and sheep? I don’t think so old fella. Now I will admit, the moderators got upset when I went to the gay thread, but that is neither here nor there. No give us some of your wisdom to work with Mr. firearms expert.

I hope you don’t mind me borrowing your pic master.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

I’m curious, though. Why is long-term disability okay but Obamacare isn’t? That sort of implies you’d like me to stop taking the $200/mo medication that keeps me healthy so I can get much sicker, become disabled, and get the state to pay for me. Right now with Obamacare, my meds are covered, so I can stay healthy and working and paying taxes. And there are a lot of people like me.

Stan, disability through SS has been there all along. I think you will find obamacare won’t cover all that much and from what I have read is going to double in cost this next year. Obamacare is a scam, a ponsie scheme that will eventually fall from it’s own weight. What is really bad is it will take a lot of people down with it, including those it purports to help.

We paid for our healthcare before and it was kept affordable with support from the companies we worked for. It was a benefit we enjoyed, a perk for our employment. With the advent of Obamacare, companies saw a way out of paying this perk. The realized there was a loophole they could use to completely eliminate the healthcare benefits they were paying for by getting rid of their full-time employees and only hiring part-time. Of course the full-time employees became the unemployed and lost their insurance. Part-timers never qualified for any insurance. This is a big savings to companies that are already taking the heat of so many people out of work and not spending money they don’t have.

Long term disability was instituted quite awhile ago for those who had disabilities that were permanent. Americans are not without a heart. To pay for it, they decided to make it part of medicare and of course the elderly were lucky enough to pay for it. You see, medicare isn’t free, it is mandatory and they take it out of your retirement checks, which you paid into all your life. This is basically a government fee for an insurance that is pretty much useless. Another way they take the elderly is with taxes, yes social security is taxed. I don’t gripe much about SS disability as there are some who truly need it. Of course it is abused too. Obamacare is just a scheme to separate people’s money from them.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Forum needs a lesson on firearms. Here it is, Michael Brown related.

I"m waiting to see where this goes. I too am well versed in firearms and an open carrier for many years. Karma will be here soon to call you names and unfit to carry, dangerous, etc. I will come in then.

I have never said this before, but the first time I came on kongregate was to look at a firearms discussion. I tried to teach the laws and the truths and was slapped around. I went to a gun forum and brought some experts back. It was funny to watch them chew up the gun haters. Now you know how I got here. :)

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Originally posted by stanwise:

It’s wonderful that you were able to escape your circumstances. But do you understand that you’ve just told the story of someone who is able-bodied and sound of mind? The story of someone who isn’t one of the nearly one-fifth of Americans who struggle with mental illness? The story of someone whose body has never betrayed them in the form of juvenile arthritis or multiple sclerosis or endometriosis – conditions with no cure that need lifelong treatment. The story of someone who has never gone to bed healthy and woken up dying from a spontaneous medical emergency.

That is the privilege of which I speak. It’s a lot harder to work your way up from the bottom when you can’t work.

I am glad that you support short-term programs – that wasn’t at all clear from what you said before. But why is my friend, say, with a reparable heart condition who needed a few months of total disability to get back on his feet somehow more worthy of getting aid than my friend with MS who, no matter how hard she works, will always have trouble covering her mounting medical bills? It’s not that she doesn’t work hard, or doesn’t want to work. It’s that her body literally fails her on some days, and there’s nothing she can do about it.

Did you know 98.3% of statistics are made up on the spot? Sorry, that was bad taste. Still, 1/5 of 320,000,000 people are a lot of mental illness. Don’t you think that sounds a little high?

I like your sad story and we hear a lot of sad stories from the left when they are pushing an agenda. You know, there are a lot of people with medical problems that do just fine in life. One that I admire on this forum is BSG. He is a feisty little guy for sure. Yet even with his serious problems, he carries on. But that is another story. My sister has MS so I am quite familiar with the disease. I’m sorry to say obamacare doesn’t cover her and she had to use other means to take care of her expensive shots. The means are out there and it is a good thing, because with obamacare she would suffer terribly.

Ah the old can’t work your way up from the bottom. I beg to differ. People do it all t he time. I did, I’m pretty sure Karma wasn’t born rich. I would bet he worked his butt off to get where he is. Even though we see the world as opposites, you have to admire what he has done with his life. I guess the can’t work your way up from the bottom is not a good argument for obamacare.

I too support “short” term programs. I have no problem with helping someone when he is down, I just don’t expect him to get to liking it to much. You know, we do have long term care for people who have permanent disabilities. It’s called, wait for it, disability. Good name for it don’t you think? And it doesn’t start with obama….. Your friend who needed help for a short time got the help he needed, right? He is back to work and living a good life. Your friend with MS can forget getting help from obamacare, it just isn’t there. Tell her to check into the SS Disability program in her area. She can also get on medicaid. Guess what Stan, she will be getting some of my social security too. Does that make you feel better? Hell, I don’t need it, I’m old and it doesn’t matter if I paid into it all my life.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Obama banned from making state of the union speech

Originally posted by Athrul:

Not being an American, your Republicans are not doing a good job at making themselves look competent. They don’t argue against the opposition’s points, they are targeting the opposition’s individuals and try to harm them personally or shut them down. To me, this seems childish at best.

I tend to agree with you. I’m not really happy with the republican leaders as they seem to lockstep with anything Obama does. If the more conservative members disagree with them, they cry.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Knock it off Karma. Just because someone dissagrees with you doesn’t mean they are me and doesn’t mean you can use me as a poster boy.

You really, REALLY have a penchant (I’m seeing it as “genetic” in extremist conservatism) for ignoring a point…..are you sure you aren’t jhco?

You do know the 1%’s pay 24% of the taxes collected, right?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Well, I don’t know how the healthcare in your country is, but what we are putting up with is just a transfer of wealth. Obamacare has devastated our medical community. It cannot be compared to real health care as it really doesn’t offer everyone health care. They are even planning on dictating what plan you must buy.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/28/gallup-peak-number-of-americans-delaying-medical-care-over-costs/

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What the hell is wrong with the country?

Daniel, I don’t care who you listen to but beware that Karma is a socialist. He will lead you to the dark side. Do your own research and make your mind up where you stand from there. We are already at the first step to socialism and this is what we on the enlightened side are fighting now. We don’t have a lot of paths to take at this point. Obama, who is more than likely a Muslim, is trying to be emperor by bypassing our checks and balances. The majority of people in America are truly pissed, and this includes many, many democrats at this point in time. Even his party (including the vice president) are distancing themselves from him. Even though we put republicans in the congress, we are seeing them as servants of the emperor. Obama has done a lot of damage to our country, both domestically and abroad. Do your homework and don’t listen to the socialists on here.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Or the immediate relief on our financial burdens, caused by the illegals, might cause a dramatic jump in the recovery of our economy. Just throwing that out there. :)

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / What the hell is wrong with the country?

We are already at that point Daniel.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

This is the first time in American history that a president has used his executive action to actually make law and sets a dangerous precedent. If this is left to stand, our country will have run it’s course and no longer be the free country envisioned by our founding fathers.

I remember many years ago the Russian president, Gorbachev, saying they would not have to take America by force as we would fall from within. At the time I thought it was just a ranting of the communist leader, now I am stunned at the accuracy. It seems so many of the liberals in this country strive to be enslaved and it is amazing to me that they really want this. Socialism, communism, dictatorships, tyrannies…these are the dreams of this group of people. Some of the young people on here I can understand, they are ignorant of the history these forms of governments have and atrocities they have imposed on their people.

Our founding fathers were aware of this when they wrote our Constitution. This is why they wrote things into it like the 2nd Amendment in the Bill of Rights…to empower the people. What is the first think any government does when they become a dictatorship? They disarm the people. Our founding fathers knew government would take as much power as it could until it became a tyranny. To be honest, we have been losing our rights for many years to our government. It would be interesting to tally up how many laws are actually on the books in this country.

This is why I am a conservative. I can see what is happening to a great country and I don’t like it. This is why I counter Karma and the others who would like to see America fall to a 3rd world country. They want America to be equal to all other countries and the only way they feel that can happen is if America falls. That leaves communism in the form of Russia and China to be the #1 countries, the power players in the world. We all know how that will end up.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The 22 Times Obama Argued Against Executive Amnesty

Karma, an executive order is not for making law. Obama misused the executive order and went against the Constitution. He is a criminal, breaking the oath of office and ignoring the laws of the land. As much as you wish him to be emperor of the United States, he is nothing but a criminal.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Really Karma, “leaned into” it somewhat? My wife has even read that and she was there. Are you going to call my wife a liar? Don’t be so desperate to pursue your utopian agenda that you cannot see truth. The desperation to reach your utopia and the lying to get that agenda is why the democrats lost the election so bad.

The trouble with the far left is the truth can come up and hit them smack in the face and they will try to pull what you just did. Obamacare is a failure, it is no secret now. Testimony after testimony of high prices, no coverage and a promise to take more money from everyone. Can you explain why Obama’s popularity polls are so low? I know why our government is buying so much ammunition…they are actually afraid of the people at this point. You knew that as well as I did. And with the amnesty crap the imperial wizard pulled night before last? You might do better to reaccess your thinking on this pursuit of a socialistic utopia dream.

Now on to the republicans. Boehner and McConnell are not much more popular than Obama. We on the right are still trying to decide if the are republicans or democrats. to turn their backs on what the people shouted on election day may end their careers. Both seem to be in lockstep with the emperor on both Obamacare and amnesty. This is what is making the people so mad, they aren’t represented by their representatives.

I had to laugh at your quote from the Obamacare website. As if they are telling us the truth. I’m actually surprised they kept it up long enough you could access it.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Originally posted by CptAtencio:

I in fact do want those people to die if they get a serious illness and cannot pay for it themselves. Why should others shoulder the burden due to their poor planning, lack of employment, lack of education, and lack of financial skill

Lack of education, lack of employment, lack of financial skill. Well idk if you have herd yet but, not everybody is born wealthy enough and was given the same opportunities that made you so “successful”. We don’t control the family or social class that we are born into. One person may have been born into an extremely abusive family and like many children of abusive families he may have made a couple of bad choices causing him to have a criminal record (not trying to pick on one situation, many other circumstances can cause one to have a criminal record) not allowing him to get a fulfilling job…
Do you even know how ignorant you are coming off as?

Well, let me fill you in on your false guesses. I was not born into wealth, but lower-middle class. I didn’t have anything handed to me, I actually left home at 15 and walked miles to go to school and miles the other direction to go to work at an A&W washing dishes. I ate half a can of peas in the morning and the other half in the evening and still walked all those miles. I did not go back home until I had a medical problem (major cut on my hand) that my parents helped me with.

The second time I left home I slept in my car in the dead of winter. But still I went to school and worked. I was the first and only one of my siblings to go to college. What I am trying to say is I worked my butt off to make a living…nothing, and I mean nothing was handed to me. I have been up and I have been down and never ask for a handout. So don’t give me some sad story of how bad others have it. And I’m not even going to go into my stepfather and the whippings I got from him.

Before college I worked my way up from a walk in the door hire. electricians helper. to a 26 year career as an electrician, back surgery, college, and a second career as a draftsman.

Even when I couldn’t stand straight and had back and leg pain you wouldn’t believe (surgery came when my leg quit working), I worked my ass off to support my family. So yes, I don’t like the pity party liberals telling me about those poor illegals, or those who live off welfare, having lots of children to get more welfare, and expect me to pay for it. Life isn’t a bouquet of roses, it is what you yourself make of it.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Originally posted by CptAtencio:

When the republicans win? A bit cocky are you? and why would you already decide to vote republican? Why not have an open mind about the two candidates for president in 2016?
Obamacare was made for two main reasons (form what I can see), to help get the country out of debt, and to provide healthcare to those who are in need but cant afford it. My family had never had healthcare before. With Obamacare we got dental and my mom was able to finally get he teeth checked out for the first time in 15 yrs. She needed it and obamacare helped and now if i break my arm or some shit we can get help paying for the medical bill, before there was no way we could have afforded a doctors visit.
Yes, you may be helping other people pay for it but how about instead of having a little pity party you think highly of yourself for contributing to society and doing a nice thing…

Why not be cocky, it is about time patriots stood up. And I’m glad you got insurance, but others lost theirs to pay for it. The coming year is going to make many more lose insurance because the costs are going to skyrocket. Walmart, as I said, is a good example of companies trimming the full-time employees to get out of paying any benefits, like obamacare. Obama is robbing Peter to pay Paul. Anytime something like this is implemented there are collateral damages. The problem is, there is way more collateral damage than good from this legislation.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Karma, I very seldom listen to radio, conservative or otherwise. That really makes your point irrelevant as to what makes me conservative. I am basically the same age as you so that would make us opposites. :) However, I have always made my own way, as you say you do. I don’t leach off of others labors or demand government or other working people give me anything. If I can’t make or do it myself, I don’t have it. What I am trying to say is, if I can make a good life and raise a family from the sweat of my brow so can all those other people. Racism has nothing to do with it, working hard has everything to do with it. We are all given the same tools when we are born and it is up to us to make use of them. Because some people would rather smoke dope or have babies out of wedlock with no visible means of support does not automatically mean I should support them.

All these illegals breaking our laws to come to America and suck off the tits of our government are criminals and moochers. They deserve nothing but deportation and being barred from ever being allowed back into “OUR” country. I would think Obamacare was set up just so our government could take care of these invaders on the backs of the working people. I owe them nothing.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Originally posted by gunghoman:
Originally posted by jhco50:

Karma, why are you a socialist one minute and a moderate the next? Are you whatever fits your post at the moment? I’m pretty sure you claimed to be a socialist and made it quite clear at the time. Yet I have always been conservative.

And as far as I can tell, Obama would rather climb a tree and lie to you than stand on the ground and tell the truth. And I like partisan politics. when they don’t get anything done the people are safe for the moment.

jhco50, I found it’s best to ignore the mentally ill progressives. They are particularity upset that their vision for forced socialism is starting to fall apart. They swap positions and arguments and will say anything to force their agenda of socialism down the throats of Americans.

Take for example the historic miscalculation that Obama is about to enact. Amnesty for all illegal aliens in this country. He is about to with his magic pen legalize all illegals and allow anyone to abuse this countries immigration laws at will. It’s a betrayal of the oath he took. Obama is making a grave mistake if he does this, he will be impeached and Republicans will be able to remove him from office. Obama is going to be a greater shame to this country than Nixon and Carter were combined.

The Democrats are going to learn that you can only shove something down even the most passive American throat for so long before it gets too deep and the automatic reflex to correct the violation occurs. If Democrats try to force the issue on immigration they can expect war. Americans are sick and tired of the crap progressives are trying to force, socialism, etc. They are sick and tired of Obama. They are waking up to the fact that the so called ‘Change’ he promises was a total lie and they elected a dunce into the Oval Office who has no idea how to govern, let alone pretend to be President.

Americans DO NOT want socialism of any kind. America was built on hard work and the individual drive to prosper. Americans will NOT every fully agree to socialism. Taxes are one thing, but forcing programs such as Obamacare is overreaching.

Do not worry jhco50, the correction is coming like the original poster said. The socialists can gnash their teeth all they want and whine and cry like some of them do on this forum but the fact is clear – America has rejected their socialism. The recent elections will prove that. 2016 will solidify and neuter the Democratic party so they can never do the kind of damage to the constitution and the country that they have done under Obama. I found the most effective way to deal with these people in public is to smile and inform them that in 2016 “Real change is coming”

Well written and I agree wholeheartedly.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Karma, why are you a socialist one minute and a moderate the next? Are you whatever fits your post at the moment? I’m pretty sure you claimed to be a socialist and made it quite clear at the time. Yet I have always been conservative.

And as far as I can tell, Obama would rather climb a tree and lie to you than stand on the ground and tell the truth. And I like partisan politics. when they don’t get anything done the people are safe for the moment.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Originally posted by vikaTae:
Originally posted by jhco50:
Originally posted by karmakoolkid:

jhco, do you even know what universal health coverage?
Or, are you so imbued in hating Obamacare that it is all you know about?
I hope something along the lines of single-payer becomes a popular talking point.

It was somewhat pre-ACA, but Obama had to retract a lot to make a bunch of asshole rich guys happy. I disagree w/ Hilary’s stand on single-payer. Could the govt. actually be any more corrupt than the insurance/drug companies?

Why yes I do Karma. It is a program started by liberals to have those who work pay for those who wish to not work get free healthcare. Kinda like getting those who work to pay for some dudes drug habit because he can’t afford his drugs. You know, like you want a new tv and can’t afford one but joe next door is working and you feel he owes you a new tv. Does that sum it up for you?

All it sums up is that you don’t know what universal healthcare actually is, since that definition is not even close.

Universal healthcare = Universal. Health. Care.

It means any citizen or legal resident in the country can get access to healthcare. The cost is taken from them ahead of time, usually in the form of a tax.

In the UK, this is National Insurance. There’s a contract between the government and the citizenry that every citizen is entitled to access to free or minimal cost healthcare for life. Personally I pay £35 a week for it, in taxes. Others may pay less if it is calculated to be beyond their means, but that’s the maximum amount. In addition I pay a flat fee of £150 a year for prescriptions. If I did not, they would be charged individually at, £7.20 per item I think is the current rate. Unless again the person has a valid reason not to such as being a war vet, or retired.

Even if I have work done privately, I still pay the tax. I’m still covered for everything except whatever issue I had privately treated. NHS won’t pick up the tab for a private hospital’s botches. It means if I ever need an X-ray, a CT scan, a CPAP machine, a very costly medication, there’s nothing else to pay. It’s all free at the point of care, and there will be no charges later. It’s all taken out of the tax, which never wavers.


If anything goes wrong, I’m guaranteed access to healthcare to fix it. No worrying about money, insurance forms, claim forms or anything.


A very different system to the one the US currently runs, and is what universal health care is supposed to be.

Well, maybe vika, but I do know what this piece of legislation is……….crap! There is nothing universal about obamacare. For one thing hardly anyone has access to healthcare anymore. Companies only use part-time employees to get out of supplying any benefits at all now. Walmart is dumping full-time employees so fast it isn’t funny. you are seeing people who were working and making a living in the unemployment lines. My daughter was full time and forced out of a job, along with several others. She was talking to a friend there today and he said nothing was getting done because there was no one to do the work. She walked through the store and shelves were empty, junk in the isles, and on and on. This used to be the most profitable store in this city. Congratulations, you now know what the collateral damage can be with your greed.

This isn’t the UK, and it isn’t Canada, and the monstrosity you liberals have come up with is not universal healthcare. It is nothing but taking from one group and pretending to give to another, all the time creating bureaucracies and government absorbing billions of additional dollars to give to another country or blow on $100 toilet seats.

I suggest you stay in the UK, because in America, you won’t get that healthcare.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

As to your part 2

Well guess what monsewer, you have managed to take healthcare from many of those you are soaking for healthcare for the poor who can’t even get it through obamacare. Obama is double dipping into our pockets because those poor who can’t get obamacare have to go t o the emergency room anyway. Wake up, your socialism is ruining the healthcare in this country.. It is a bad, expensive, and worthless piece of legislation that doesn’t work. Geez Karma, get off the pot.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Originally posted by karmakoolkid:

No, jhco……I prefer to listen to the truth; rather than the lying shit YOU do.

As far as “programs started by liberals”, somebody needs to do something about the mess we are in.

When are ya gonna pull yer head out and actually listen to some truth on this, as well as other issues we “liberals” here on the forum have been eternally trying to get you to give a decent look at?
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My head is out of my ass and you can’t seem to understand “the majority of the voters” don’t want what you are selling. The mess we are in is because of your eminence in the white house, spend and spend and spend and screw the people. What the hell is a constitution, it doesn’t matter to him. This is your utopia, but only yours.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The truth on President Obama and the recent elections.

I was going to reply, but Kasic covered it pretty good.