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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Originally posted by CptAtencio:

I in fact do want those people to die if they get a serious illness and cannot pay for it themselves. Why should others shoulder the burden due to their poor planning, lack of employment, lack of education, and lack of financial skill

Lack of education, lack of employment, lack of financial skill. Well idk if you have herd yet but, not everybody is born wealthy enough and was given the same opportunities that made you so “successful”. We don’t control the family or social class that we are born into. One person may have been born into an extremely abusive family and like many children of abusive families he may have made a couple of bad choices causing him to have a criminal record (not trying to pick on one situation, many other circumstances can cause one to have a criminal record) not allowing him to get a fulfilling job…
Do you even know how ignorant you are coming off as?

Well, let me fill you in on your false guesses. I was not born into wealth, but lower-middle class. I didn’t have anything handed to me, I actually left home at 15 and walked miles to go to school and miles the other direction to go to work at an A&W washing dishes. I ate half a can of peas in the morning and the other half in the evening and still walked all those miles. I did not go back home until I had a medical problem (major cut on my hand) that my parents helped me with.

The second time I left home I slept in my car in the dead of winter. But still I went to school and worked. I was the first and only one of my siblings to go to college. What I am trying to say is I worked my butt off to make a living…nothing, and I mean nothing was handed to me. I have been up and I have been down and never ask for a handout. So don’t give me some sad story of how bad others have it. And I’m not even going to go into my stepfather and the whippings I got from him.

Before college I worked my way up from a walk in the door hire. electricians helper. to a 26 year career as an electrician, back surgery, college, and a second career as a draftsman.

Even when I couldn’t stand straight and had back and leg pain you wouldn’t believe (surgery came when my leg quit working), I worked my ass off to support my family. So yes, I don’t like the pity party liberals telling me about those poor illegals, or those who live off welfare, having lots of children to get more welfare, and expect me to pay for it. Life isn’t a bouquet of roses, it is what you yourself make of it.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Originally posted by CptAtencio:

When the republicans win? A bit cocky are you? and why would you already decide to vote republican? Why not have an open mind about the two candidates for president in 2016?
Obamacare was made for two main reasons (form what I can see), to help get the country out of debt, and to provide healthcare to those who are in need but cant afford it. My family had never had healthcare before. With Obamacare we got dental and my mom was able to finally get he teeth checked out for the first time in 15 yrs. She needed it and obamacare helped and now if i break my arm or some shit we can get help paying for the medical bill, before there was no way we could have afforded a doctors visit.
Yes, you may be helping other people pay for it but how about instead of having a little pity party you think highly of yourself for contributing to society and doing a nice thing…

Why not be cocky, it is about time patriots stood up. And I’m glad you got insurance, but others lost theirs to pay for it. The coming year is going to make many more lose insurance because the costs are going to skyrocket. Walmart, as I said, is a good example of companies trimming the full-time employees to get out of paying any benefits, like obamacare. Obama is robbing Peter to pay Paul. Anytime something like this is implemented there are collateral damages. The problem is, there is way more collateral damage than good from this legislation.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Karma, I very seldom listen to radio, conservative or otherwise. That really makes your point irrelevant as to what makes me conservative. I am basically the same age as you so that would make us opposites. :) However, I have always made my own way, as you say you do. I don’t leach off of others labors or demand government or other working people give me anything. If I can’t make or do it myself, I don’t have it. What I am trying to say is, if I can make a good life and raise a family from the sweat of my brow so can all those other people. Racism has nothing to do with it, working hard has everything to do with it. We are all given the same tools when we are born and it is up to us to make use of them. Because some people would rather smoke dope or have babies out of wedlock with no visible means of support does not automatically mean I should support them.

All these illegals breaking our laws to come to America and suck off the tits of our government are criminals and moochers. They deserve nothing but deportation and being barred from ever being allowed back into “OUR” country. I would think Obamacare was set up just so our government could take care of these invaders on the backs of the working people. I owe them nothing.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Originally posted by gunghoman:
Originally posted by jhco50:

Karma, why are you a socialist one minute and a moderate the next? Are you whatever fits your post at the moment? I’m pretty sure you claimed to be a socialist and made it quite clear at the time. Yet I have always been conservative.

And as far as I can tell, Obama would rather climb a tree and lie to you than stand on the ground and tell the truth. And I like partisan politics. when they don’t get anything done the people are safe for the moment.

jhco50, I found it’s best to ignore the mentally ill progressives. They are particularity upset that their vision for forced socialism is starting to fall apart. They swap positions and arguments and will say anything to force their agenda of socialism down the throats of Americans.

Take for example the historic miscalculation that Obama is about to enact. Amnesty for all illegal aliens in this country. He is about to with his magic pen legalize all illegals and allow anyone to abuse this countries immigration laws at will. It’s a betrayal of the oath he took. Obama is making a grave mistake if he does this, he will be impeached and Republicans will be able to remove him from office. Obama is going to be a greater shame to this country than Nixon and Carter were combined.

The Democrats are going to learn that you can only shove something down even the most passive American throat for so long before it gets too deep and the automatic reflex to correct the violation occurs. If Democrats try to force the issue on immigration they can expect war. Americans are sick and tired of the crap progressives are trying to force, socialism, etc. They are sick and tired of Obama. They are waking up to the fact that the so called ‘Change’ he promises was a total lie and they elected a dunce into the Oval Office who has no idea how to govern, let alone pretend to be President.

Americans DO NOT want socialism of any kind. America was built on hard work and the individual drive to prosper. Americans will NOT every fully agree to socialism. Taxes are one thing, but forcing programs such as Obamacare is overreaching.

Do not worry jhco50, the correction is coming like the original poster said. The socialists can gnash their teeth all they want and whine and cry like some of them do on this forum but the fact is clear – America has rejected their socialism. The recent elections will prove that. 2016 will solidify and neuter the Democratic party so they can never do the kind of damage to the constitution and the country that they have done under Obama. I found the most effective way to deal with these people in public is to smile and inform them that in 2016 “Real change is coming”

Well written and I agree wholeheartedly.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Karma, why are you a socialist one minute and a moderate the next? Are you whatever fits your post at the moment? I’m pretty sure you claimed to be a socialist and made it quite clear at the time. Yet I have always been conservative.

And as far as I can tell, Obama would rather climb a tree and lie to you than stand on the ground and tell the truth. And I like partisan politics. when they don’t get anything done the people are safe for the moment.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Originally posted by vikaTae:
Originally posted by jhco50:
Originally posted by karmakoolkid:

jhco, do you even know what universal health coverage?
Or, are you so imbued in hating Obamacare that it is all you know about?
I hope something along the lines of single-payer becomes a popular talking point.

It was somewhat pre-ACA, but Obama had to retract a lot to make a bunch of asshole rich guys happy. I disagree w/ Hilary’s stand on single-payer. Could the govt. actually be any more corrupt than the insurance/drug companies?

Why yes I do Karma. It is a program started by liberals to have those who work pay for those who wish to not work get free healthcare. Kinda like getting those who work to pay for some dudes drug habit because he can’t afford his drugs. You know, like you want a new tv and can’t afford one but joe next door is working and you feel he owes you a new tv. Does that sum it up for you?

All it sums up is that you don’t know what universal healthcare actually is, since that definition is not even close.

Universal healthcare = Universal. Health. Care.

It means any citizen or legal resident in the country can get access to healthcare. The cost is taken from them ahead of time, usually in the form of a tax.

In the UK, this is National Insurance. There’s a contract between the government and the citizenry that every citizen is entitled to access to free or minimal cost healthcare for life. Personally I pay £35 a week for it, in taxes. Others may pay less if it is calculated to be beyond their means, but that’s the maximum amount. In addition I pay a flat fee of £150 a year for prescriptions. If I did not, they would be charged individually at, £7.20 per item I think is the current rate. Unless again the person has a valid reason not to such as being a war vet, or retired.

Even if I have work done privately, I still pay the tax. I’m still covered for everything except whatever issue I had privately treated. NHS won’t pick up the tab for a private hospital’s botches. It means if I ever need an X-ray, a CT scan, a CPAP machine, a very costly medication, there’s nothing else to pay. It’s all free at the point of care, and there will be no charges later. It’s all taken out of the tax, which never wavers.


If anything goes wrong, I’m guaranteed access to healthcare to fix it. No worrying about money, insurance forms, claim forms or anything.


A very different system to the one the US currently runs, and is what universal health care is supposed to be.

Well, maybe vika, but I do know what this piece of legislation is……….crap! There is nothing universal about obamacare. For one thing hardly anyone has access to healthcare anymore. Companies only use part-time employees to get out of supplying any benefits at all now. Walmart is dumping full-time employees so fast it isn’t funny. you are seeing people who were working and making a living in the unemployment lines. My daughter was full time and forced out of a job, along with several others. She was talking to a friend there today and he said nothing was getting done because there was no one to do the work. She walked through the store and shelves were empty, junk in the isles, and on and on. This used to be the most profitable store in this city. Congratulations, you now know what the collateral damage can be with your greed.

This isn’t the UK, and it isn’t Canada, and the monstrosity you liberals have come up with is not universal healthcare. It is nothing but taking from one group and pretending to give to another, all the time creating bureaucracies and government absorbing billions of additional dollars to give to another country or blow on $100 toilet seats.

I suggest you stay in the UK, because in America, you won’t get that healthcare.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

As to your part 2

Well guess what monsewer, you have managed to take healthcare from many of those you are soaking for healthcare for the poor who can’t even get it through obamacare. Obama is double dipping into our pockets because those poor who can’t get obamacare have to go t o the emergency room anyway. Wake up, your socialism is ruining the healthcare in this country.. It is a bad, expensive, and worthless piece of legislation that doesn’t work. Geez Karma, get off the pot.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Originally posted by karmakoolkid:

No, jhco……I prefer to listen to the truth; rather than the lying shit YOU do.

As far as “programs started by liberals”, somebody needs to do something about the mess we are in.

When are ya gonna pull yer head out and actually listen to some truth on this, as well as other issues we “liberals” here on the forum have been eternally trying to get you to give a decent look at?
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My head is out of my ass and you can’t seem to understand “the majority of the voters” don’t want what you are selling. The mess we are in is because of your eminence in the white house, spend and spend and spend and screw the people. What the hell is a constitution, it doesn’t matter to him. This is your utopia, but only yours.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The truth on President Obama and the recent elections.

I was going to reply, but Kasic covered it pretty good.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Originally posted by karmakoolkid:

jhco, do you even know what universal health coverage?
Or, are you so imbued in hating Obamacare that it is all you know about?
I hope something along the lines of single-payer becomes a popular talking point.

It was somewhat pre-ACA, but Obama had to retract a lot to make a bunch of asshole rich guys happy. I disagree w/ Hilary’s stand on single-payer. Could the govt. actually be any more corrupt than the insurance/drug companies?

Why yes I do Karma. It is a program started by liberals to have those who work pay for those who wish to not work get free healthcare. Kinda like getting those who work to pay for some dudes drug habit because he can’t afford his drugs. You know, like you want a new tv and can’t afford one but joe next door is working and you feel he owes you a new tv. Does that sum it up for you?

Have you been reading the news lately? How obamacare is going to go up 40% and more people are going to have to pay heftier fines if they can’t afford the exorbitant costs of obamacare insurance? Have you heard the guy who said this wouldn’t have passed if they didn’t keep it invisable to the stupid voters? This isn’t your Universal Health Care, it is a government ripoff. Get the real facts straight Karma. It’s a dictator taking over 1/6 of the American economy.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Originally posted by onlineidiot1994:

I’m sick of Obamacare too. We should repeal it and replace it with universal public healthcare.

Wait till you see what is coming this next year. hoooweeee, talk about Americans taking in in the backside.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The People Spoke

I believe they will lose it if we can get a decent candidate to run.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun issues updates

LOL. yes, I have a friend that is liberal and he was a bit shocked too. I think we will see obamacare gone and possibly Obama impeached.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The People Spoke

Karma, the extremists exist on both sides and don’t need fixed. You yourself are an extremist. You would like to change our country to a socialist country, completely changing what made this country great. That is extreme. Americans don’t want a 3rd world country, they want America back. Ideals like yours are failing in every area of politics. I told you several months ago this would happen, and it has. Now we have to listen to the liberals tell us how we don’t know whats good for us or we are low information voters, or we marked the wrong candidate, etc. You lost accept it.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun issues updates

Karma, I realize your party took a shellacking in yet another election, but just because others don’t agree with your ideals don’t insult them with names. Your so called progressives have screwed up our country, royally. It wasn’t just conservatives Obama has pissed off, a majority of your own democratic party changed sides this election. There is no way to justify this administrations policies and the American people have made this clear. Our gun rights are not up for debate, they are part of the Constitution, just like all the other rights you call on when it suits your agenda.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Is Obama a good president or the worst?

I might mention this tidbit. Although Obama is commander-in-chief, he is mistaken in that he thinks he has war powers and can just go off and attack another country willy-nilly. Only congress has the power to declare war and Obama has again usurped the constitution with his egotistic ‘I am the king’ attitude.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The People Spoke

Originally posted by karmakoolkid:
Originally posted by steelwoman:

Yes, nail in the coffin of the Democratic party. They will not get power back after 8 years, we will keep it by force.

So, it’s fuck about half of Americans whose ideology differs the half that YOU so love?
Are ya not able to see a bit of danger in that?

I say that since you seem to think FORCE (violence?) is okay for (obtaining?) keeping power.
Or, just what EXACTLY is it that ya mean by FORCE?


You are beginning to interest me.

Are you so near-sighted you can see the irony in this post? you were all braggadocio before the people spoke and now you are crying that we are excluding your ideals. First, I would not say half the people want socialism, you have really expanded that number by a lot. We have had six years of Obama and the democrats pushing their socialist agenda down our throats and the people said enough was enough. The ignoring of our Constitution will go on for another few months and then the conservatives will put a stop to it. It wasn’t the old republican politicians that were elected. There is new blood in DC. Many of them are those dreaded freedom lovers pushed by the Tea Party so despised by both parties. Remember the presidential elections? Remember how the republicans wanted to exclude the conservative members as being too radical for their party? Well, the conservatives fought the old guard and they are the ones being charged with straightening our our country. Obamacare, amnesty, and all the other socialist ideas will have a new enemy. It is obvious Americans have spurned socialism.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Pleasedonot5, Health care is not a right. Doctors and the medical community spend thousands of dollars of their money to go to school and learn their craft. They don’t owe you what they paid for and deserve to make back their investment. Before Obamacare and HMO’s we had the best medical services in the world. Those with money came from all over the world to use our system because we offered the best. At this point we are losing our doctors, our nurses, and in some cases our hospitals because the costs involved are being undercut to the point they can’t keep their doors open anymore. These medical personal don’t owe you anything. They offer what they paid for and learned and ask for reparations for their costs to gain the knowledge you want for free.

America is the property of the people, not government. We pay taxes “mandated” by a greedy government that has taken powers away from the states and the people. They have done this by usurping the Constitution. The feds mandating is basically usurping the powers of the state and the people. So paying and extra tax (taking income from the working) is basically stealing from the people, taking money from those who work to keep a roof over their families head and food in their bellies to re-disperse that needed income to those who would rather sit on their ass and do nothing.

What you consider materialism, especially under this administration, are the basic necessities to survive. The median income for the average family is falling. An example of this is my wife and myself buying groceries. What used to cost us a little over $100 now costs $200 and up. Yet our income is fixed. Btw, inflation will be rearing it’s ugly head in the next year and costs will go up even more. We are steadily losing our standards of living. The well you wish to draw on to finance your desires is going dry.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / I am damn tired of Obamacare. Now it's time for the correction. :)

Karma, it is not bigotry to reject socialism. It is not bigotry for wanting to keep what you earn to take care of your own family. It is not shooting ourselves in the foot because we don’t want socialism. It seems you have ignored what really made this country the best in the world, freedom. We don’t want to be subjects, sheep, slaving all our lives to support those who sit on their asses and beg for a free ride. We conservatives don’t believe in living off others, we believe in earning our way. This election was a rejection of socialism and the democratic party. I’m sorry if this hurts your feelings.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The People Spoke

Vicka, some of the things you are saying should be done, such as streamlining how the government and it’s bureaucracies work. In fact, that is pretty much how conservatives look at it, smaller government, much smaller. I would like to see the government go strictly by the Constitution and like idiot says, defense, and interstate commerce are technically the only powers granted to the federal government by the Constitution. They should never have become so powerful, but they incrementally took it from the states/people over a long period of time. It takes a lot to finally get the people mad enough to say enough is enough, and that is exactly what you saw yesterday.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The People Spoke

Karma, why do you say it’s the low information voter when repubs are elected but intelligent people when the libs are elected? You aren’t suggesting the American people are stupid because they voted the way they did are you? Keep in mind that we have a president that considers himself a king without needing the congress or that pesky old constitution.

In an earlier thread, I told you and the others on here that the people were pissed at Washington. The signs were there and I suspect you saw them too. They weren’t LIV, but people who were tired of the way our government is going. Credit should be given to them for voting, no matter who they voted for as that is their voice in government and they spoke. I don’t think the majority of Americans share your propensity for socialism.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / The People Spoke

As the final vote are being tabulated, progressive politics have been repudiated by the American people and the Republicans have received a mandate. Although it will be decades to correct the remaking of America by the left, the process has begun. The question now is can we fix our country?

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Money Fast

I think the advice Karma give you on this was spot on. My advice is to follow karma’s advice.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun issues updates

Naw Karma, let this thread die and become the past like most of the others on the forum. You and the others live in your little dream world, while we beat the liberals back, starting in a week or so.

Beauval, that is one area I didn’t agree with him on as I don’t believe the US is any worse than any other country. I am inclined to believe governments tend to overlook the drug usage as it makes sheep of men and sheep can be controlled. It’s not just about control in my area, it comes down to taxes. Pot was legalized and it opened a can of worms. After initializing all of the regulations and the really high taxes, the pot smokers returned to the street venders and the taxes expected shrank drastically. To top it off, there is really nothing our state can do since pot is legal now, LOL. Oh yes, we are having an influx of the homeless who are enjoying the legalization of pot…another can of worms not expected. Then there is the drop in tobacco use in the schools and the rise of pot use. That is not to mention the increase of impaired drivers they are encountering. I really think the collateral damage was not expected…or maybe the influx of money overrode their concerns of the colateral damage.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun issues updates

Karma, you have such a dismal outlook on people and society in general. I feel sorry for you. We really didn’t need you to put the video into text as that is why I posted a link. :) If you actually think about what this fella said (I don’t know him personally), it makes sense. If you tell someone beating on your door you have a gun and he enters anyway, he is high on something, or stupid. The jist of your post petty much is because he supported something you don’t and deserves the wrath of karma. I have found over the time I have seen you on this forum that you really have very little tolerance for anyone who might have a differing opinion from yours.

Basically, what I am trying to say with that link is we in America would rather protect our loved ones than rely on government to protect them…if they get there in time or bother to show up at all. The vloger in the link stated that and I restate it to bring home a fact that is true

As far as caliber goes, a larger diameter bullet is better for self-defense than a smaller one. That is just common sense. If you do a little study on this you will find out we tried to fight the Moro during the Moro wars with a .38 caliber and because of the disappointing results (drugs) we went back to a .45 caliber. Even chest or head shots didn’t help. I still maintain torso hits in a self-defense situation though.

http://armyhistoryjournal.com/?p=1020

When a discussion arises that may affect others rights, and liberals (mostly) become emotionally charged with little or no real knowledge of the subject, they come up with a lot of idiotic assumptions to react upon. This becomes nothing but a feel good fest and actually exacerbates the problem. On a subject like gun control common sense should rule, but I guess common sense isn’t so common anymore.