<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/65236?page=1#posts-1472456'>JohnRulz</a>:</cite> Debate is cancelled, admin of conservapedia.com disagrees because he is not allowed to use the bible to disprove evolution.</blockquote> Haha! Wow, no one saw that coming. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/65236?page=1#posts-1472456">JohnRulz</a>:</cite> Debate is cancelled, admin of conservapedia.com disagrees because he is not allowed to use the bible to disprove evolution.</blockquote> Haha! Wow, no one saw that coming.

2009-11-17T17:23:08-08:00

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bq. My legs. I run and call the police when safely away from my house. Not always. Say I live in 5th story apartment and the assailant is standing in front of the door. This is kind've why I hate hypothetical situations... They always lead to more. Also: bq. So nice for you. Please go tell the disabled and the elderly that they aren’t allowed to have the means to defend themselves because you don’t feel you need it. Too true. bq. Just because someone has a gun doesn’t mean they’re any good at using it. And everyone that ones a knife knows how to effectively use it? <blockquote> My legs. I run and call the police when safely away from my house. </blockquote> Not always. Say I live in 5th story apartment and the assailant is standing in front of the door. This is kind’ve why I hate hypothetical situations… They always lead to more. Also: <blockquote> So nice for you. Please go tell the disabled and the elderly that they aren’t allowed to have the means to defend themselves because you don’t feel you need it. </blockquote> Too true. <blockquote> Just because someone has a gun doesn’t mean they’re any good at using it. </blockquote> And everyone that ones a knife knows how to effectively use it?

2009-11-17T17:19:44-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/24763?page=17#posts-1472476'>SithDoughnut</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/24763?page=17#posts-1472474">Aaron_</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/24763?page=17#posts-1472461">SithDoughnut</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/24763?page=17#posts-1472455">Aaron_</a>:</cite> <blockquote> If a robber held me at gunpoint and demanded my wallet, and I gave it to him, he’d most likely take it and run. However, if I pull a gun out myself, how much more likely do you think it is that I will be shot? </blockquote> Why would you pull out a gun in the situation? I can’t speak for everyone, but it seems pretty foolish to shoot a petty criminal over a few hundred dollars, especially when he’d “most likely take it and run”.</blockquote> So what’s the purpose of having a gun?</blockquote> <blockquote> I hate hypothetical, but bear with me on this. </blockquote> If someone, for whatever reason, breaks into your home with the intent of killing you, would you or would you not want a firearm yourself?</blockquote> No. I have plenty of other potential weapons.</blockquote> Name one more effective than a firearm. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/24763?page=17#posts-1472476">SithDoughnut</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/24763?page=17#posts-1472474">Aaron_</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/24763?page=17#posts-1472461">SithDoughnut</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/24763?page=17#posts-1472455">Aaron_</a>:</cite> <blockquote> If a robber held me at gunpoint and demanded my wallet, and I gave it to him, he’d most likely take it and run. However, if I pull a gun out myself, how much more likely do you think it is that I will be shot? </blockquote> Why would you pull out a gun in the situation? I can’t speak for everyone, but it seems pretty foolish to shoot a petty criminal over a few hundred dollars, especially when he’d “most likely take it and run”.</blockquote> So what’s the purpose of having a gun?</blockquote> <blockquote> I hate hypothetical, but bear with me on this. </blockquote> If someone, for whatever reason, breaks into your home with the intent of killing you, would you or would you not want a firearm yourself?</blockquote> No. I have plenty of other potential weapons.</blockquote> Name one more effective than a firearm.

2009-11-17T17:12:35-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/24763?page=17#posts-1472461'>SithDoughnut</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/24763?page=17#posts-1472455">Aaron_</a>:</cite> <blockquote> If a robber held me at gunpoint and demanded my wallet, and I gave it to him, he’d most likely take it and run. However, if I pull a gun out myself, how much more likely do you think it is that I will be shot? </blockquote> Why would you pull out a gun in the situation? I can’t speak for everyone, but it seems pretty foolish to shoot a petty criminal over a few hundred dollars, especially when he’d “most likely take it and run”.</blockquote> So what’s the purpose of having a gun?</blockquote> bq. I hate hypothetical, but bear with me on this. If someone, for whatever reason, breaks into your home with the intent of killing you, would you or would you not want a firearm yourself? <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/24763?page=17#posts-1472461">SithDoughnut</a>:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/24763?page=17#posts-1472455">Aaron_</a>:</cite> <blockquote> If a robber held me at gunpoint and demanded my wallet, and I gave it to him, he’d most likely take it and run. However, if I pull a gun out myself, how much more likely do you think it is that I will be shot? </blockquote> Why would you pull out a gun in the situation? I can’t speak for everyone, but it seems pretty foolish to shoot a petty criminal over a few hundred dollars, especially when he’d “most likely take it and run”.</blockquote> So what’s the purpose of having a gun?</blockquote> <blockquote> I hate hypothetical, but bear with me on this. If someone, for whatever reason, breaks into your home with the intent of killing you, would you or would you not want a firearm yourself? </blockquote>

2009-11-17T17:10:56-08:00

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bq. If a robber held me at gunpoint and demanded my wallet, and I gave it to him, he’d most likely take it and run. However, if I pull a gun out myself, how much more likely do you think it is that I will be shot? Why would you pull out a gun in the situation? I can't speak for everyone, but it seems pretty foolish to shoot a petty criminal over a few hundred dollars, especially when he'd "most likely take it and run". I hate hypothetical, but bear with me on this. If someone, for whatever reason, breaks into your home with the intent of killing you, would you or would you not want a firearm yourself? <blockquote> If a robber held me at gunpoint and demanded my wallet, and I gave it to him, he’d most likely take it and run. However, if I pull a gun out myself, how much more likely do you think it is that I will be shot? </blockquote> Why would you pull out a gun in the situation? I can’t speak for everyone, but it seems pretty foolish to shoot a petty criminal over a few hundred dollars, especially when he’d “most likely take it and run”. I hate hypothetical, but bear with me on this. If someone, for whatever reason, breaks into your home with the intent of killing you, would you or would you not want a firearm yourself?

2009-11-17T17:08:32-08:00

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bq. Benevolent is kind. Omnipotent is all powerful. How the hell is that a contradiction? I think hes talking about them separately. He's right though, an omnipotent being is impossible. <blockquote> Benevolent is kind. Omnipotent is all powerful. How the hell is that a contradiction? </blockquote> I think hes talking about them separately. He’s right though, an omnipotent being is impossible.

2009-11-17T17:04:45-08:00

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I didn't get that impression at all. Maybe it's because I actually read his post? bq. this aint logic. this is likanothoropy. Ok, well stop. Seriously. For your own sake if not ours. I didn’t get that impression at all. Maybe it’s because I actually read his post? <blockquote> this aint logic. this is likanothoropy. </blockquote> Ok, well stop. Seriously. For your own sake if not ours.

2009-11-17T17:01:46-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/33708?page=41#posts-1472339'>likan8888</a>:</cite> reason does equal purpose, because yes, you actually are supposed to have children, just not to have YOU, specifically. so you dislike performing because you dont want to learn songs? so you would perform if yoiu could actually learn a song? you sit in your room and play nothing? and lifes purpose is to eat mate and die.</blockquote> He's saying he doesn't want to learn songs _with the intent to preform them_. Seriously dude, your attempt at logic is just making you look foolish. <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/33708?page=41#posts-1472339">likan8888</a>:</cite> reason does equal purpose, because yes, you actually are supposed to have children, just not to have YOU, specifically. so you dislike performing because you dont want to learn songs? so you would perform if yoiu could actually learn a song? you sit in your room and play nothing? and lifes purpose is to eat mate and die.</blockquote> He’s saying he doesn’t want to learn songs with the intent to preform them. Seriously dude, your attempt at logic is just making you look foolish.

2009-11-17T16:54:11-08:00

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bq. The purpose behind the 2nd amendment was to form militia for military use during wartime or to put down insurrections. The US hasn’t used militias in almost a hundred years. The Supreme Court has found the second amendment to be an individual right, not a collective one. <blockquote> The purpose behind the 2nd amendment was to form militia for military use during wartime or to put down insurrections. The US hasn’t used militias in almost a hundred years. </blockquote> The Supreme Court has found the second amendment to be an individual right, not a collective one.

2009-11-17T16:48:00-08:00

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Also, I think the fact that firearms have a purpose beyond home and personal defense needs to be recognized. The Constitution of the United States included the Second Amendment as a means of keeping an overbearing government in check, which I think is entirely reasonable. Civilian firearm sales have been restricted to the point were this role is less prevalent, but I feel it's still valid. Also, I think the fact that firearms have a purpose beyond home and personal defense needs to be recognized. The Constitution of the United States included the Second Amendment as a means of keeping an overbearing government in check, which I think is entirely reasonable. Civilian firearm sales have been restricted to the point were this role is less prevalent, but I feel it’s still valid.

2009-11-17T16:43:13-08:00

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bq. If everyone carried a knife, everyone else would need one. If no one carried them, no one would need to. But people do, and probably always will. People with ill intentions will always have weapons, and it seems foolish to me that people with good intentions wouldn't want to have a level playing field. <blockquote> If everyone carried a knife, everyone else would need one. If no one carried them, no one would need to. </blockquote> But people do, and probably always will. People with ill intentions will always have weapons, and it seems foolish to me that people with good intentions wouldn’t want to have a level playing field.

2009-11-17T16:32:46-08:00

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1132: Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. 1132: Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

2009-11-17T16:29:19-08:00

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bq. Hey man I saw House last night too. Shit, did I really miss it? Aren't new episodes on Tuesday? <blockquote> Hey man I saw House last night too. </blockquote> Shit, did I really miss it? Aren’t new episodes on Tuesday?

2009-11-17T12:50:40-08:00

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How do we know who "wins"? Is it purely opinion, or is there some formal criteria? How do we know who “wins”? Is it purely opinion, or is there some formal criteria?

2009-11-17T12:46:05-08:00

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bq. Damn aid needing jungle monkeys… Wow, thats not racist at all. <blockquote> Damn aid needing jungle monkeys… </blockquote> Wow, thats not racist at all.

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bq. The conversation largely was about holding weapons for safety at home, which can be countered by intruder alarms. It makes sense to have both. I don't think anyone is advocating having a gun _instead_ of a burger alarm. <blockquote> The conversation largely was about holding weapons for safety at home, which can be countered by intruder alarms. </blockquote> It makes sense to have both. I don’t think anyone is advocating having a gun instead of a burger alarm.

2009-11-17T12:41:29-08:00

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Here? Here?

2009-11-17T12:39:49-08:00

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Are you advertising, or are we actually discussing anything? Are you advertising, or are we actually discussing anything?

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My bad, sorry. My bad, sorry.

2009-11-11T19:04:03-08:00

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I'm not? I’m not?

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bq. We have a group called the police to handle defense. You may have heard of them before. They can't be everywhere at once, and they aren't able to respond instantaneously. bq. If the vast and incredibly powerful U.S. military falls, a bunch of hicks with shotguns aren’t going to make a difference. All they would achieve is making the enemy target civilians. The thought of an armed civilian populace kept Hitler out of Switzerland, why wouldn't it work here? _"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto_ bq. It does effect me if a situation is allowed to arise that puts me at higher risk than normal. You can say that about pretty much anything. I'd definitely be safer if no one drove cars, right? I'm not going lobby for a ban on them though. <blockquote> We have a group called the police to handle defense. You may have heard of them before. </blockquote> They can’t be everywhere at once, and they aren’t able to respond instantaneously. <blockquote> If the vast and incredibly powerful U.S. military falls, a bunch of hicks with shotguns aren’t going to make a difference. All they would achieve is making the enemy target civilians. </blockquote> The thought of an armed civilian populace kept Hitler out of Switzerland, why wouldn’t it work here? “You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.” – Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto <blockquote> It does effect me if a situation is allowed to arise that puts me at higher risk than normal. </blockquote> You can say that about pretty much anything. I’d definitely be safer if no one drove cars, right? I’m not going lobby for a ban on them though.

2009-11-11T18:59:20-08:00

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bq. Sure. None of that shows marijuana to be a huge problem though, at least not for society. If an individual wants to take the apparently few risks associated with marijuana use, why shouldn’t they be allowed to? Also, what difference does it make either way? It's none of our business and it doesn't affect us. <blockquote> Sure. None of that shows marijuana to be a huge problem though, at least not for society. If an individual wants to take the apparently few risks associated with marijuana use, why shouldn’t they be allowed to? </blockquote> Also, what difference does it make either way? It’s none of our business and it doesn’t affect us.

2009-11-11T18:50:32-08:00

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<blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href='/forums/9/topics/64383?page=1#posts-1451097'>The_Acorn</a>:</cite> Is stealing somebody’s property,money,etc worth going to jail for? I know some people don’t have the same luxery as others but is it worth really worth loosing everybody’s trust? What do you think?</blockquote> You have to realize that people are shortsighted enough that they think it's the best option. It should be pretty obvious that getting an education and a job are better than stealing a televison to make rent in the long run. bq. If they’re so desperate, why not just kill yourself instead of harming other people? Because not everyone thats desperate is suicidal? <blockquote><cite>Originally posted by <a href="/forums/9/topics/64383?page=1#posts-1451097">The_Acorn</a>:</cite> Is stealing somebody’s property,money,etc worth going to jail for? I know some people don’t have the same luxery as others but is it worth really worth loosing everybody’s trust? What do you think?</blockquote> You have to realize that people are shortsighted enough that they think it’s the best option. It should be pretty obvious that getting an education and a job are better than stealing a televison to make rent in the long run. <blockquote> If they’re so desperate, why not just kill yourself instead of harming other people? </blockquote> Because not everyone thats desperate is suicidal?

2009-11-11T18:42:49-08:00

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He's on television, big deal. It's what people want to see. If you don't like it, change the channel. He’s on television, big deal. It’s what people want to see. If you don’t like it, change the channel.

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bq. anyway, lol guns dont kill people, BULLETS KILL PEOPLE Which came out of a gun, fired by a person. Yes, everyone should definitely have the right to carry a weapon. No matter how much we legislate against firearms, criminals will _always_ be able to get them. More often than not, the only people that are affected by these laws are honest, law abiding citizens. When we take away the citizens' right to defend themselves, we make individuals more susceptible to crime, and put our liberty at risk. People need to get over themselves and mind their own business, to be perfectly honest. If someone doesn't want to own a firearm, thats their choice. Who are they to tell others what they can and cannot own when it doesn't affect them one way or the other, though? <blockquote> anyway, lol guns dont kill people, BULLETS KILL PEOPLE </blockquote> Which came out of a gun, fired by a person. Yes, everyone should definitely have the right to carry a weapon. No matter how much we legislate against firearms, criminals will always be able to get them. More often than not, the only people that are affected by these laws are honest, law abiding citizens. When we take away the citizens’ right to defend themselves, we make individuals more susceptible to crime, and put our liberty at risk. People need to get over themselves and mind their own business, to be perfectly honest. If someone doesn’t want to own a firearm, thats their choice. Who are they to tell others what they can and cannot own when it doesn’t affect them one way or the other, though?

2009-11-11T18:36:02-08:00

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