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Topic: Serious Discussion / IF god was real why dosnt he fix the world we live in now

Okay, haven’t read the conversation up to here as there is too much to go through. I will answer the base question.

Why do you insist that God “fix” everything? We are out of our diapers and training wheels people. You don’t need Mom to steer you around anymore. God wasn’t the one who made the world this way, we are. He let us out on our own expecting we’d be responsible enough to take care of ourselves. Obviously some of us can’t. We’re too lazy and procrastinating to get ourselves out of trouble and stop squabbling like kids at the sandbox. If we can dig ourselves this magnitude of a hole on our own, we can surely get ourselves back out right?

Point being, we don’t need God to fix the problems with this damnable planet. We need to stop being so selfish and greedy, just live and let live for God’s sake. People need to stop thanking God every time something goes there way. They also need to stop cursing Satan every time they come into a trial. Quit thanking and blaming people for stuff your doing, it’s quite redundant.

 

Topic: Technical Support / Can i please have my crystals

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Topic: Serious Discussion / What's the last book you've read?

Actually just finished one. For the fifth time reading it, The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas. It’s about a man who returns to France from sea. He is taken into custody during his wedding feast, framed and betrayed. The rest of the book Is in short, vengeance. I’ won’t spoil anything for those who might actually read it.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / 5 Top Military Commanders in History

Originally posted by slasher:

You can pretty much leave out every leader that decided to invade Russia.

I’m not joining the conversation, but I have to agree with this guy. Russia is the one place you always ally. Never attack them, it’s a bad idea.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / AX: Hell Exists

Originally posted by karmakoolkid:

That’s a great point (of view) ya make there, KingZ.
I, too, don’t think much of a deity that would condemn (submit) his “children” to such a heinous existence for simply “refusing” to use the gift (from Him) of free will in the manner he set up. Being human means ya’re gonna fuck up….big & small ones. But, to torture a soul for eternity because of some minor infractions of “rules” that aren’t all that clear to begin with….how fucking weird is that?

Let’s make Life a Little League baseball game….w/ Big-G the coach.

Let’s say Willie out in right field tries real hard but drops a fly ball….to hell w/ Willie, he dun fucked up.

Let’s say Willie was screwing around fishing a gnarly burger outta his nose and didn’t even see the ball go whizzin’ by him…giving the batter an inside-the-park homerun & it wins the game. It’s off to hell for Willie AND he has bunk w/ a lawyer.

Let’s say Willie was bribed by the other team’s coach (Satan) to throw the game. Damn…that is damnation for Willie for sure. He dun be a talkin’ to da Debbil. That Willie now goes immediately to hell, doesn’t collect his asbestos jock strap and has to lug his bat along using no hands (giving new meaning to: Johnny at bat, Mikie on deck, and Willie in the hole.

Let’s say Willie was raised by a real asshole dad—or even worse, a shitty step dad—who shamed and belittled Willie at every turn….causing poor Willie to have no clue what life was about. To him, love = pain, loathing, failure. So, guess what….poor Willie is “destined” to fuck up. I guess ya could say that he is automatically “walked”. Only in this game, ya get to first base and ya just keep on going until ya falling to Hell. That serves Willie right for picking such a shitty family to be born into. This is totally unacceptable….no excuse at all. So, Willie…let’s put ya to shoveling coal into the furnace.

Now, let’s say Willie had a real good upbringing. His dad took him to a major league ballgame every Sunday. Dad went to great lengths to explain the finer nuances of how the game is played. Little Willie becomes quite the little expert on how the game (of life) goes. He sees many grey areas w/ corners on those silly rules (for suckers?) cut be cut. He doesn’t care if the team he joins has Big-G as the coach. After all, Willie doesn’t really have all that much FAITH in his abilities/knowledge of the game. In fact, Willie thinks he’s kindda a fool.

So, is Willie really all so bad that EVEN now he has to spend eternity in utter misery….ETERNITY? I mean, what did he do…really? He got a weeebit foolish and thought he knew as much as some coach that really wasn’t much around doing any serious coaching. Good grief….HORRORS.

Since the AX of this thread is: Hell exists….I say—WHY?

So Willie dropped a fly ball. Even highly paid pros do so sometimes. Simply pull Willie outta da game for an inning and discuss the situation w/ him and work on the issue at the next practice.

And….good grief, wouldn’t just yelling at Willie to get his finger outta his nose and get his head into the game be enough? Do we really need to hang him by his thumbs in the dugout?

So what if Willie talked to the “other” coach?
Just talkin’ shouldn’t be a sin….after all, what is free will if ya can’t use it to see what the other side is offering?

Okay, so Willie makes a deal w/ the Devil. Are we gonna take a chain, hook one end to his feet and the other to a car and drive ’round & ’round & ’round the parking lot for eternity? Maybe we could just not let him play out the rest of the season….give him a chance to rethink his “goals” for the game.

But, for the Love of God….why are we going to so Hellishly punish a poor Willie when all the nourishment he ever got in life was negative? GIGO. Instead of going to Hell, this Willie needs to go directly to the Soul Hospital, patched up, and given a new “number” & sent back into the game.

Yeah, some ppl certainly appear to be prime candidates for Hell. Important word there…APPEAR. I’m certainly not one to judge who goes where. But, I do think there does exist a particularly darkness of Evil that is likely to feel right at home in Hell.

Again one I missed. Not to be obsessed with Dante, but I’m just opening some new doors for you.

In the Inferno

The punishments don’t get more severe per sin. Nor do they stay the same. They all keep the same severeness, but become increasingly more difficult to escape from. Starting in the vestibule, where one is simply sits in Limbo chased by giant wasps that would be lethal to any mortal, but can walk out on the (long and grueling) trek to the exit at any time. Ending in the Lake Cocytus, Where one is frozen up to the neck, face down in the ice. Yet right next to the exit, With little to none opposition. All punishments very painful/ irritating/ annoying. But lesser sins are easier to escape, with a longer journey. While worse sins are nearly impossible to escape, but if managed, leads to immediate freedom.

“But, for the Love of God…. why are we going to so Hellishly punish a poor Willie when all the nourishment he ever got in life was negative? GIGO. Instead of going to Hell, this Willie needs to go directly to the Soul Hospital, patched up, and given a new “number” & sent back into the game.”

As for this bit. Once someone escapes Hell, ahead is purgatory. This is where you receive individual forgiveness for your sins and serve some recuperating jailtime for them as well. Then let of to the next batch of sins. Then eventually to Heaven.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / AX: Hell Exists

Originally posted by tadster:

My thoughts on Hell -
There are 2 places spoken of in the bible, Hell (Hades, the land of the Dead) and the lake of Fire.
This is clear in Revelation 20:13-14, both Death(the devil) and Hell are thrown into the lake of Fire.

What is this lake of fire is my question, the Bible says the smoke of their torment will rise forever.
Revelation 14:11
And that Satan will be tormented forever – Rev 20:10

But in a less known book, the apocalypse of Peter, supposedly, eventually Hell ends, and those inside become the servants of those who were in heaven.

Perhaps the lake of fire is the method by which one really stops existing, otherwise you live on in some manner.

I would love to think it has somehting to do with stars, idk why, but i’ve been thinking wierd stuff lately
like, we get resurected, get new spiritual bodies, every single human bad and good, then we get judged, bad ones get thrown into the star they would have ruled over, good ones reign forever and ever from earth over the stars with/by/becauseof/giving glory to/leading others to God – Job 38:31-33(has to be orig king james), Rev 22:3-5. And so both the star and that bad human eventually stop existing completely thereby, and yeah it’s very painful.

Or, it’s that God created pain to force those who don’t choose righteousness into being righteous, and the lake of fire is the method thereby, and Satan will never be righteous, so he will be tourmented forever, the bible says all things were created for God – Collosions 1:16 (by Him and FOR Him) So Hell too according to that verse was created For God, He will be glorified by it somehow.

(Sorry I did not get to this subject sooner, just going through the older posts.)

I actually do have an answer for the difference in the lake of fire, and hell. Hell would be the punishment, however you believe this happens, and will exist, in whatever form, until the time of Revelation. At this point, if you have not escaped by this time,(As provided by Dante), hell and it’s contents will be cast into the lake of fire, and cease to exist. Purgatorio will exist for some time after until it’s inhabitants have all made it through. Once there is no more use for it, it too will be destroyed. Then only the heavens and the earthly plane will exist perpetually afterward.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / AX: Hell Exists

Originally posted by 404WindStalker:

But Trent, what is “perfect?” “Perfect” cannot exist outside the abstract as personal definitions will inevitably conflict! For example, Yahweh’s alleged standard of “perfect” and my “perfect” conflict greatly.

I see your side here. It wouldn’t be a limbo where it’s expected to be seen as perfect. It would be more of a humble, but diverse, heaven with something for everyone.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / AX: Hell Exists

“See, I will create
new heavens and a new earth.
The former things will not be remembered,
nor will they come to mind."

I can’t discredit your view here Immortal777, but I think we interpreted this differently.
I see this as we won’t LOSE our memory, but the new heaven/earth will be perfect and pleasant enough to where we won’t miss or envy the old world.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / AX: Hell Exists

Originally posted by sgtmarkiv:

the most what i expect of hell is the doom guy with a shotgun blasting every demon in sight.

. Thanks for that mood lightener. Now, let’s leave the teenager topic and move back to Hell. (As odd as that sentence sounds aloud.)

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / AX: Hell Exists

Originally posted by 404WindStalker:

I doubt I could follow VikaTae’s above post with anything similarly eloquent…

samuro2: You’re operating under the assumption that everyone should find [the Christian] Heaven desirable and thus strive to reach it. Like so many of the previous respondents to the OP, I find Hell preferable if it means raising a middle finger to the sanctimonious, narcissistic prick you call ‘God’.

Hmm, I find this mindset troubling. This is the classic case of a spiteful teenager wishing to piss off their parents by disobeying them. The problem with this is the only pleasure you get is that single moment of said parents disapproval before your grounded to your room with the window barred, and all entertainment taken from you. Really it’s only counterproductive, selfish, and self-destructive.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / That's not a _____!

That’s not a toolkit, it’s a troll kit!

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / AX: Hell Exists

Originally posted by DarrenC13:

No offence to christians but evolution has nothing to do with God cause he does not exist and neither does satan

Well this is an AX thread: this does not discredit your point of view, but this forum is based off the assumption that hell does exist, so please be valid to our discussion.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Corrupt-a-Wish

Granted, but it appeared inside your skull, blowing your mind.

I wish for the letter X

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / AX: Hell Exists

Originally posted by MagicEggplant:

I always thought that perhaps heaven and hell are the same thing. Everyone goes to the same place, it’s just a function of how you view it.

For instance, if you offered a wine connoisseur some top quality wine, he’d savor the taste and enjoy it to the fullest extent. However, if the same wine was offered to someone like me, who doesn’t know anything about wine, I’d probably spit it out complaining it’s too dry. It’s the same wine, yet to a person with a developed taste it is enjoyable, and to another it’s repulsive.

So someone who lives out a ‘moral’ life, or subscribes to whatever creed God wanted him to have (as God certainly exists if hell exists), will appreciate what comes to him. However, someone who isn’t granted ‘entry to heaven’ will in fact receive the same ‘reward’ but will not view it as such.

As for what this ‘reward’ is, I can only wait to find out.

This is actually a very tantalizing concept…

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / AX: Hell Exists

Originally posted by karmakoolkid:
Originally posted by KingZeldar3:

Eternal pain. Everlasting flames causing so much torture. Well, if it did exist.

King, this is an AX thread.
Hell DOES exist.

This does not discredit your view King, but do remember what AX means.

 
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Topic: Forum Games / [Continuous] I Spawn A ...

I spawn Cthulhu, He eats your everything.

 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / AX: Hell Exists

Originally posted by Kellathor:

I was always taught that in hell you become immortal and your body is burned with fire for eternity.

This is what many people believe, though I’m not sure what specific religion this stems from, it does describe Dante Alighieri’s 7th circle of Hell, round one, The desert of raining fire.
 
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Topic: Serious Discussion / AX: Hell Exists

(I’m rebooting my old thread, which seemed to collect some good results. I’m taking the old participants’ advice and making it an AX thread.)

Put the image in your head, Hell exists. What would you expect to find there? I’ve studied the representation of many cultures’ afterlife. From the Greek underworld, to the many hells of the Chinese beliefs, to Dante Alighieri’s Inferno. Give me your idea of what to expect in Hell.

 
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Topic: The Arts / *!LOGO ARTIST NEEDED!*

Link : http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/trentmiller98/media/images_zpsde945be3.png.html

 
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Topic: The Arts / *!LOGO ARTIST NEEDED!*

All I ask is that I receive credit for the cover. Good luck man.

 
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Topic: The Arts / *!LOGO ARTIST NEEDED!*

http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p730/trentmiller98/images_zps1eaf6c3a.gif

This more to your appeal?

 
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Topic: The Arts / Paintings: feel free to give your opinion

I enjoy 3 the best, I love the style you paint with

 
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Topic: The Arts / *!LOGO ARTIST NEEDED!*

I’m going to assume yes.

and just in case you can’t acess it through that, heres the link

http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/trentmiller98/media/images_zpsb5690db9.jpg.html

 
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Topic: The Arts / *!LOGO ARTIST NEEDED!*

You want me to post it here in the forum?

 
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Topic: Forum Games / Corrupt-a-Wish

Granted but now you can’t speak, write, or read anything else.

I wish for a genie