Recent posts by FlabbyWoofWoof on Kongregate

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun Issues

jhco jhco

You sir live in a country that is fully communist.

You think China is fully communist? I’m sorry but you sir have no clue what you are talking about. Absolutely no clue.
Pulsaris remember jhco is from the old world view…people of his age are slowly fading away along with their ideas. The fact that the world changes is what scares people jhco.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

Originally posted by jhco50:

We tire of listening to those who are bigots. Just because people who believe differently got tired of listening to the whining and quit posting, the gay lovers continued on a few pages and declared themselves the winners. It’s sad really.

Gay lovers? Jhco you really have a way to make yourself sound like not only a bigot but childish bigot. And I, a “lover of the gays” did not declare myself the winner because of the lack of posts from anti-gay marriage proponents…but because more and more Western countries are legalising gay-marriage (I gave a list of those countries) and traditionally very anti-gay marriage countries, such as America, has become more accepting of homosexuals…as is evident in any of the pols which you can easily find online.

Secular countries are and have always been the more progressive countries…the gay-marriage debate is over in many countries now, and America and the rest will follow, only a man with his head in the sand would think otherwise. Secular countries will move, slow but surely, to liberal ideas when it comes to the issue of equality.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun Issues

What you are suggesting is a one world government where every country falls under one leader and one set of laws

this is never or was ever what I have ever said jhco. I am starting to think you live in a very paranoid world. You have constantly twisted what I have said and made silly assumptions and outlandish conjectures…and I am paraphrasing here…that we, from other Western countries want to bring down your country…well, gloves off, I don’t need to, people like yourself are doing a fine job of destroying your own country.

you and your ilk jhco don’t like the facts…you can hide behind your precious 2nd amendment like it’s gospel…but the facts are still there…America has a serious gun problem. Don’t want to deal with it? Fine, I’ll sit back and watch the news for the next mass shooting in America. God Bless.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun Issues

Originally posted by PatriotSaint:

Originally posted by FlabbyWoofWoof:

Sometimes I have to think what exactly the pro-gun people of America are talking about when they talk about loss of freedoms.
Every other western country have stricter gun laws and yet they seem to be no worse off…although when it comes to mass shootings and gun violence them seem to be a lot better off.

My friends and I from New Zealand are still able to go hunting, maybe without the same weapons that Americans can buy, but it doesn’t hinder us in being able to hunt and shoot game.

Except in terms of mass stabbings and such.

Yes, because we hear about mass stabbings happening all the time in the West with large numbers of deaths involved…right?

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun Issues

Sometimes I have to think what exactly the pro-gun people of America are talking about when they talk about loss of freedoms.
Every other western country have stricter gun laws and yet they seem to be no worse off…although when it comes to mass shootings and gun violence them seem to be a lot better off.

My friends and I from New Zealand are still able to go hunting, maybe without the same weapons that Americans can buy, but it doesn’t hinder us in being able to hunt and shoot game.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

But, seriously…there are new developments (almost daily?) that can be good fodder to discussion. Then, please be aware of & don’t discount the contributions of new posters on the thread…..and any resulting discussion.

Karma makes a good point because even though many of us think that the debate about gay-marriage is all but over, there are many other issues to address…like what I had earlier brought up about the florist wishing to deny their service to a gay wedding. As more countries allow gay-marriage, more cases such as these will come up and so we must decide, or think about what is the best way to deal with the ‘rights’ of both parties.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

Originally posted by Cimerax:

Originally posted by Ungeziefer:

First off, you need to realize that people were getting married before recorded history. Before any religions that exist today existed.

Really many of the religions that exist today, or their root religion, can be traced back to the brink of recorded history. Are you suggesting that primordial man was without religion? Or that there are full and clear distinct breaks in our religious heritage?

Sure, they had religions, but they were different religions.

Who’s to say if they had religion before ‘marriage’….and who’s to say that even if primordial man had religions that marriage was based on a religous notion or a societital idea of union?

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun Issues

Was thecartm saying that guns aren’t made to kill humans?

1. Yep. Not humans. And they nowaday’s aren’t for humans.

??? Guns were made with the sole purpose and are still mainly made to kill humans, the arms trade has a much bigger share of guns sold for wars than for sport hunting…we don’t use peeled grapes or blocks of cheese to win wars.

And Karma is right about CROWne…he just seems intent on being sarcastically trolly, while some times it’s funny, it hardly endears anyone to reply.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

I’m sure it is of no news to most people here that France has just legalised gay-marriage.

Here’s a list of countries that now allow and legally recognise gay-marriage:
Argentina
Belgium
Canada
Denmark
France
Iceland
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Portugal
South Africa
Spain
Sweden

What countries do you think will be close to follow..if any more do…and how long do you think it will be before the vast majority of Western countries legaise gay-marriage? I know that each country has it’s own unique social fabric, but I think the oppostion to homosexuals is definetly in rapid decline, I feel that within three years we won’t even be having this discussion. Anybody thinks I am wrong?

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

I’m not sure why the interracial couple would be gung-ho on going to the Klan’s local flower shop for their wedding.

The point is not why someone would want service from a bigot or racist, but why should someone be denied service if they are not breaking the law or causing a disturbance, there should be reasonable grounds for denial of service…it’s not illegal to be gay so the florists opinion and personal view should not be considered reasonable grounds.

I would understand and respect a priests right of refusal to conduct a gay marriage, his service is a religious one. But I can see no reason why this florist can’t do their job and provide the service they offer to the community…they have no grounds to deny a non-religious service to a gay couple.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

Moral objection is justified then issnedorf? So a white supremacist should also be allowed to deny services to an interacial wedding? Based on his moral objection to the mixing of an inferior race?

And Karma, I think Vika pointed out that if someone is being rude you should be allowed to deny them service…but just for being gay?

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

Florist sued for refusing to provide flowers for a gay wedding.

Is this discrimination a justified expression of religious belief?

Topic: Serious Discussion / R.I.P Boston Marathon, Iran/Pakistan Earthquake, Ya'an Earthquake Victims

While these events were serious…I am unable to see the discussion.

Topic: Serious Discussion / What's the last book you've read?

Originally posted by Roki123:

The last book i read was Narnia about 3 years ago when i was 11.

Just to be anal…Narnia isn’t a book.

My last and current book was/is “The Opium War: Drugs, Dreams and the Making of China”

Topic: Serious Discussion / Your opinion on polygamy?

Agree with your post OP.
Nothing more to add.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

New Zealand has just become the 13th country to legalise gay marriage. I am so proud of my homeland to have finally given full equal rights to homosexuals. The world moves forward a little by little.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

Originally posted by EPR89:

There are many gay Christians who want to get married legally, there are many Christians who do support gay marriage and there are many non-Christians and even atheists who don’t support gay marriage.
It’s not only an issue with religion.

While I agree that there are homosexual Christians that want to get married and non-christians that oppose gay-marriage, I don’t think it can be denied that the overwhelming majority that oppose gay-marriage do so due to their religious beliefs (although many might be using their ‘religion’ as a guise for their homophobia in general).
I don’t disagree that there would be some atheists that don’t support gay-marriage, but I haven’t met one yet and I think that they would be few and far between.

While I agree that “it’s not only an issue with religion”. I believe that religion has played the major role in denying homosexuals their right to get married.

I guess what I am getting at is that while the arguments against gay-marriage have evolved from “it goes against God” to “it goes against traditional marriage” is not because the religious have stopped opposing gay-marriagem, but simply because the courts have disallowed that argument to be used…so in turn the religious have altered their arguments. I think it’s still firmly a religious debate.

Think of it this way…if the churches and religious institutions supported gay-marriage…would we even be having to fight for homosexuals to have the right to marry? I highly doubt it.

Topic: Serious Discussion / North Korea

You’re right, you never can be a 100% sure…but I’m willing to state the chance of China going to war with the US over N Korea are as high as Russia going to war with the US over Syria if the US got involved there.

China would have more to lose with a war, than to gain.

Topic: Serious Discussion / North Korea

Kakko I highly doubt China would risk or even contemplate a war with the US, they have come too far as a nation to risk losing it just for some extra land.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

Originally posted by Wave_Rida:

It seems so clear to me, but I might be wrong. Netherlands here, so I cannot grasp the true concept of the thinking of americans, but why dont you stick to your own case? If the man down the road paints his house pink, while you dont like pink, you dont throw him in jail. So my question to all those people against this gay marriage, what is your problem with it? Will your arms fall off in miami if two guys in alaska have a (gay) marriage? no.

If it’s just beliefs, well with all respect, but its not about you. You aren’t sinning, and those gays will go to hell ( according to you) so let them have their happy moment. again, what harm can it bring to you.

I would say, stop being anti-social. its not about you, its about making someone else happy for once.

Remember, the most important thing in life happyness. Try and let someone else have some once in a while, even though if you dont like the thought of what they are doing.

And to be honest, I do feel sorry for any of your sons and/or daughters that will confess they are gay and want to have an actual “normal” life. First of all, they will have had a terrible time being chewed up about the issue. Now I wonder: If they would invite you to the wedding, would you go? After all its your child, but than again, its a gay marriage. Beliefs and/or religion versus family.

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Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun Issues

Originally posted by jhco50:

So flabby, in your country, your world and universe, have you eliminated violent crime? I’m guessing you are just blowing hot air at America in hopes you can screw up another country, since the laws you think we should live by haven’t worked in your country.

As much as I like you jhco (and I do) I just can’t even bothered replying to such a stupid comment. Please understand that even though you think in an “us against them” mentality not everyone else does.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gun Issues

3. Giving someone mentally ill a gun is the real problem.

I think this is the best quote because no one goes out of their way to give a gun to someone that is ‘mentally ill’…but the current guns laws and availibilty of guns in America make it is easy for someone that is ‘mentally ill’ to obtain a gun. That is one of the many problems that exist with the current gun laws of America..and I think the high profile mass shootings from the Aurora shootings to the Arizona shootings that involved Gabrielle Giffords to the recent Newtown shootings show that the mentally ill will be able to legally obtain guns. No problem. Obviously.
Prove me wrong on one of there…good for you…but prove me wrong on all of these plus Columbine and counting…guns are easy to get in America…it does not keep you safe.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

Lets get to the crux…isn’t the modern idea of marriage the concept where two adults of age and abiltiy to consent declare their love and wish to have their union recognised by the state so that they are protected by the laws of that state? If you want to get into traditional concept marriage then why don’t and can’t we go back to the origins of marriage? Which include arrainged marriages and marriages of minors? Why can’t we then include the traditional roles of the marriage spouses? The wife is inferior?

What I am asking is that we have a modern idea of what marriage is…if you want a tradiontal idea then lets go all out and include all of the ‘tradiontal’ aspects of marriage…you can’t pick and choose what marriage is…it is either the concept of love or it is the archaic concept control.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Gay Marriage

Originally posted by Ceasar:

Gays can call themselves married and have whatever religious rites they can get someone to perform. But I should also have the right to not recognize that marriage, if it’s against MY religion.

As long as the courts recognise their marriage I doubt they’ll give a damn about what you think.

Topic: Serious Discussion / Discussion about race in America

Ceasar, first off Tenco is right…I was going to add a bit more, but really I’m not telling anyone they should feel guilty about anything, merely realise and remember that the great nation that is America owes a damn lot to the slaves…and lets not forget also that America didn’t fully end public segregation until the mid 1960’…that’s only 50 years ago! So I think it’s a bit rich of Buchanan to say that African Americans should be thankful for being given the same opportunities that have been denied them for so long.